The sorriest generation

[THEBIRD]

THE SORRIEST GENERATION

By Pastor Chuck Baldwin

February 28, 2006

NewsWithViews.com

If the World War II generation was America's greatest generation (while it was great, I believe the founding generation was actually America's greatest), this generation is America's sorriest generation! In fact, I am ashamed of my generation.

Furthermore, it seems the one coming behind me is even worse, if that's possible. If God doesn't miraculously intervene on behalf of our once great nation, we are doomed! And I do not say this lightly or without deliberation.

Financially, America is bankrupt and living on borrowed monies. In all likelihood, it is beyond financial recovery. Culturally, America is decadent and, apart from divine intervention, beyond repair. Politically, America has abandoned constitutional government and is now in the hands of lawless thugs. Spiritually, America is apostate. The vast majority of America's Christian leaders are aiding and abetting our spiritual demise. Every single standard of national greatness has fallen into the basement!

America has lost its identity and is fast losing its language! We have lost our Christian heritage, and most Christians either don't notice or don't care. We are losing our borders and our resolve to protect them. Foreigners control our debt, and now President Bush wants to give them control of our ports. And for the most part, foreigners even control our foreign policy. In addition, politicians and preachers alike are slaves to the rich and powerful.

Beyond that, our nation has become addicted, yes, even obsessed, with sports, leisure, and gambling! Sports celebrities are more than icons, they are gods! Leisure is more than a pastime, it is the greatest motivation for living. It seems that all people dream about is having the financial ability to retire.

By retirement they mean living a life without responsibility, duty, or obligation. In other words, a life of total self-absorption. And since most are unwilling or even incapable of earning such a life, gambling is the preferred method of obtaining this ultimate life of irresponsibility.

Let me ask a question: what is this greedy generation going to leave their posterity? The answer is NOTHING! On the whole, this generation doesn't know how to give; it only knows how to take.

This generation doesn't care about out-of-control federal spending, because its personal spending is out-of-control. It doesn't know how to hold politicians accountable to the Constitution, because it cannot even hold its own children accountable to much of anything.

I am reminded of the Old Testament story of King Hezekiah who, after being told by the prophet Isaiah that his sons would be conquered by Babylon and taken into slavery and judgment, responded by saying that at least "there shall be peace in my days."

In other words, as long as Hezekiah could sit on his easy chair, he just didn't care. As long as he did not have to endure the pain and affliction of divine judgment, he was satisfied. As long as he was comfortable, he didn't really care what kind of heartache and grief his children and grandchildren would be forced to experience. Everything revolved around his own peace and comfort. If you ask me, the word for that is SORRY. And if you ask me further, that is exactly where this generation of Americans finds itself today.

What kind of generation is it that does not give a rip about what kind of country it is leaving for its children? What kind of spoiled, selfish brats have we become that we can be so flippant about the continual loss of our country's liberties and freedoms? What kind of self-centered monsters have we become that our great ambition in life is to sit back, do nothing, accomplish nothing, change nothing, resist nothing, and leave nothing?

When the wicked king Belshazzar saw God's finger writing warnings of judgment on the wall, he trembled. He had good reason to tremble. That same night, he was killed and his kingdom conquered.

To anyone with eyes to see, God is writing His warnings of judgment all over the walls of America. However, we are even worse than Belshazzar. We don't even know how to tremble!

:claps: :claps: :claps:

[Dowple]

Bird,

How could you possibly post that column and applaud, and then with your tagline endorse Rice for president in 2008? Do you think she would do anything to reverse the list of betrayals and disasters listed in that column? Or would she add to it?

[Native American]

Bird,

How could you possibly post that column and applaud, and then with your tagline endorse Rice for president in 2008? Do you think she would do anything to reverse the list of betrayals and disasters listed in that column? Or would she add to it?

She's clearly preferable to anyone whom the Libs and Dems would offer.

[Dowple]

She's clearly preferable to anyone whom the Libs and Dems would offer.

That sort of scare tactic doesn't work anymore. Conservatives are not going to vote for some pro affirmative action, pro homosexual, pro open borders, amnesty giving politician just because there is an R next to their name.

[Wolfcounsel]

"How could you possibly post that column and applaud, and then with your tagline endorse Rice for president in 2008?" --dowple, to THEBIRD

I think the applause is for the writer. The only way I'll vote for Rice is if Sillary Hillary is running on the other side.

I would say this generation has the collective personality of a bum who gets all huffy if you are a little slow in looking for spare change to give him, and he lets you know so. Screw all welfare bums, and may they be deprived of stolen taxpayer money soon.

[USPatriot8320]

Wow... Powerful article... and I agree fully. On the national scene there isn't much left... In my state we're near not being able to recover... More and more of my generation is beginning to see the writing on the wall and we are taking action... There isn't much of a future left for us...

[Maggie_T]

And all courtesy of the left, as usual. :flame:

A friend of mine said the other day that the American Dream of working hard so that you could get buy a house, etc. is dead. It's been replaced by the idea that Nanny Government will always be there to look out for you, to tell you what to say, what to think, what to eat, what to drink, what to wear, who to vote for, etc., etc.

All you have to do is switch your TV on and goggle at the shit that comes out of it (soap operas, Oprah, Jerry Springer, Survivor, American Idol, etc.). That's it. That's the life these days. No wonder things are the way they are.

[Naturalized-Texan]

While Pastor Baldwin makes a few good points, the bulk of his essay is full of doom and gloom, paranoid nonsense.

[THEBIRD]

Bird,

How could you possibly post that column and applaud, and then with your tagline endorse Rice for president in 2008? Do you think she would do anything to reverse the list of betrayals and disasters listed in that column? Or would she add to it?

I've heard Condi speak before any of you even knew who she was. She also spoke at my wife's Christian college grad ceremony in 95. She is a devoted Christian and knows right from wrong. She is also a proud supporter of our second amendment rights....some of what the good revered was talking about.

Condi is a good choice for 08.

[Maggie_T]

While Pastor Baldwin makes a few good points, the bulk of his essay is full of doom and gloom, paranoid nonsense.

Hmmm. That makes me a full of doom and gloom paranoid, then. Because I happen to agree with quite a good bit of his article. :question:

[Wolfcounsel]

"While Pastor Baldwin makes a few good points, the bulk of his essay is full of doom and gloom, paranoid nonsense." --Naturalized-Texan

As long as there exists one lazy person leeching off the government because he has the right to do it, I see no paranoia involved. Welfare bums must die before there is any improvement!

[Maggie_T]

Amen.

[Naturalized-Texan]

"While Pastor Baldwin makes a few good points, the bulk of his essay is full of doom and gloom, paranoid nonsense." --Naturalized-Texan

As long as there exists one lazy person leeching off the government because he has the right to do it, I see no paranoia involved. Welfare bums must die before there is any improvement!
Pastor Baldwin condemns 2 entire generations and that is pure paranoid horsehockey. The fact is that the generation now approaching adulthood and the generation following the baby-boomers are much more conservative than the baby-boomers. The man mainly responsible for that is Rush Limbaugh. Rush correctly calls the generation approaching adulthood "Limbaugh Babies" because so many of them grew up hearing Rush on their parents' radios. An excellent example is the young man who taped the hate-America rant from that nutty teacher in Aurora, CO.

[SmellyFed]

I think Baldwin is really off base - there's no way this is America's sorriest generation - this is the 'never had to put in a hard days work in their life' generation. The sorriest generation is the generation that gave birth to these miscreants. As in, damn... I'm really sorry about that.

I realize it's a mouthful - Call them the NHTPIAHDWITL generation, if it's easier.

[Aethariel]

Oh, look at that, another useless conservative predicting the doom of America.

:uhh: :rolleyes: :uhh: :rolleyes: :uhh: :rolleyes: :uhh: :rolleyes:

You know what, Pastor Baldwin and your Think-Alike-Think-A-Little choir? You're quite right; America is doomed. It's doomed because backwards twits like yourself can't come to grips with the fact that times change. Not only does America change, but it has this nattering habit of never reverting to a fantasy past that never existed. Isn't that interesting? As much as you might want it, I'm here to pat you all on the back for correctly predicting that America will not go back to the future and become a nice, all-Christian nation of nuclear families, small government, unfettered capitalism and sealed borders.

Because let me tell you, that just breaks my heart. A little tear trickles down my cheek every time I think of the poor, noble individualists having their hard-earned monies funneled into social welfare. I have to choke back a sob every time a Christian feels alone with the implicit endorsement of the state. And it's enough to make me pull out a hanky when the government actually decides to pay respect to minorities, and God forbid, foreigners.

It's no small irony that conservatives like Pastor Chucky lament the selfishness of the American people. Who would have thought that paying more taxes to provide goods to all people through the government was selfish? But, oh, it is. It's a crime, and downright greed, that we fork over our paychecks into welfare, Social Security, and some measure of medical insurance. Why don't we go back to the good old days, when poverty was dealt with through charity and churches? Let's just say it: who doesn't miss those halycon years, when communities could ignore wholesale people who weren't white and Christian enough?

Oh well. I guess we are doomed, after all.

[USPatriot8320]

It's not really meant to be insulting I think... It's meant to be reality... When you look at the federal government and most of the states, we're broke... My generation is going to have one hell of time coming out of this... To be frank it's not fair... You guys failed us... Or atleast my fellow NY'ers failed us... It's not right.. The whole idea of America is freedom and to leave a better future than the one my parents had.... What we got is shit.. We got debt... High taxes... No jobs... What kind of future is that?? IDC who is to blame.. Just fix it...

[UnkHiram]

USpatriot

It does matter who is too blame for the current Condition of NY and a few other states. The reason it matters is because the SAME PEOPLE are still Electing the SAME BIG SPENDING TAX THEM UNTIL THEY DIE democrats to the offices that are supposed to solve these problems.

[USPatriot8320]

Unk: with all do respect... Republicans have controlled the senate, and the governorship for 14 yrs.. Our republicans failed us... I have been a memeber of the GOP going on 5 years now... I switched parties... Because of what our republicans have done... They failed us....

[USPatriot8320]

I'm running for assembly in my district.. Many young people are running in NY this time around.... Our state is screwed unless things change... Both parties essentially failed us... And it's our civic duty to rise up and change that... And we are....

[DoctorDoom]

It's doomed because backwards twits like yourself can't come to grips with the fact that times change.Only liberals equate change with progress. Kid, I lived through the 40s and 50s, and the US of 2006 is a moral and ethical cesspool compared to those days.

Not only does America change, but it has this nattering habit of never reverting to a fantasy past that never existed.Ignorant, insufferable child, don't opine on things about which you obviously know nothing. You don't have a microclue about what America was like before the cancer of liberalism metastasized.

You have never known an America without the depravity and ugliness that is so pervasive in our culture. I have, boy, and if the changes between 1956 and 2006 were the antithesis of "progress".

Who would have thought that paying more taxes to provide goods to all people through the government was selfish? But, oh, it is. It's a crime, and downright greed, that we fork over our paychecks into welfare, Social Security, and some measure of medical insurance.The bleeding heart is dripping all over the board again. You're a typical liberal: if you see a person in need, you're eager to give him the shirt off of someone else's back.

Socialist twit!

[Teenager]

Oh boy, where to begin?

I may not have the writing abilities like Wyatt Junker, but one thing I do know, from my own studies of the coming generation(mine) and the past generation(my parents) is that these two Generations have created the perfect scenario for the end of America.... or the greatest renewal of America.

Pastor Chuck Baldwin creates one scenario of what could possibly happen. However, there is another side which is perfectly reasonable.

My parents generation has taught mine to accept people, as in tolerance. This has both good and bad things to it. However, if my generation decides to accept the good things about tolerance(such as racial harmony), and reject the bad things of tolerance(such as "gay" tolerance), then America could possibly see the greatest revival it has ever seen in many years.

My generation is fast becoming known for their "groups," in other words, they believe each and trust each a lot. I'm sure you can see how great of an advantage this is... to either the good or bad side.

Ok, so I'm kinda just babbling, and I'm not exactly sure how to convince you all that this coming generation could possibly be the greatest. But, it needs the help the older generations. This is why I think it's so important that we need to pray and get involve in this coming generation. If any of ya'll are able to get in touch with one teen(just one), you could possibly be affecting the lives of ten or more teens without even knowing. Think of the kind of power that could harness for America and conservatism!!

[Teenager]

Aethariel, you insolent fool! Get your butt of the computer and go work, you are wasting internet bandwidth!



Who would have thought that paying more taxes to provide goods to all people through the government was selfish? But, oh, it is. It's a crime, and downright greed, that we fork over our paychecks into welfare, Social Security, and some measure of medical insurance.

You have not the slightest iota of intelligence of the way our current system is going to bankrupt America! Nor do you have the slightest comprehension of economics!

Why don't we go back to the good old days, when poverty was dealt with through charity and churches?



I would very much enjoy to go back to those days, unlike you who doesn't seem to be able to be grateful for what others charity and hard-work involves.


:soap:

[TSawyer2112]

I would hope the pastor excludes our all yuong all-voluteer military force from his criticism. While we do have problems in this country, were still the best thing going and many of us are trying to make it better.

[TSawyer2112]

...It's a crime, and downright greed, that we fork over our paychecks into welfare, Social Security, and some measure of medical insurance. Why don't we go back to the good old days, when poverty was dealt with through charity and churches? Let's just say it: who doesn't miss those halycon years, when communities could ignore wholesale people who weren't white and Christian enough?...
Everyone feels secure with FDR's Social "Security". And Johnson's "Great Society" has done so much toward ending poverty and suffering in this country hasn't it? Another 40 years and poverty will be no more. So go right ahead and have that fifth child out of wedlock (or not, that's paid for too). Go ahead and drop out of high school. Retirment plan? We don't need no stinking retirement plan! Don't sweat it, the Governement has it all under control. Just sit back and enjoy the ride while someone else picks up the fare. Besides whatever happens, we'll just blame it on the angry white Christian males all the way from George Washington to George Walker Bush.
Don't ya just feel empowered?! :flushlib.

Forcibly taking a portion of someone's livlelihood to increase someone else's livelihood (and thus a political party's voter base) isn't charity, it's just plain stealing.

[HomeschoolrsRUs]

Who would have thought that paying more taxes to provide goods to all people through the government was selfish? But, oh, it is. It's a crime, and downright greed, that we fork over our paychecks into welfare, Social Security, and some measure of medical insurance.

Just in case it is overlooked in my sig line ...

"Today, wanting someone else's money is called 'need,' wanting to keep your own money is called 'greed,' and 'compassion' is when politicians arrange the transfer." -- Joe Sobran

[sunsettommy]

Oh, look at that, another useless conservative predicting the doom of America.

:uhh: :rolleyes: :uhh: :rolleyes: :uhh: :rolleyes: :uhh: :rolleyes:

You know what, Pastor Baldwin and your Think-Alike-Think-A-Little choir? You're quite right; America is doomed. It's doomed because backwards twits like yourself can't come to grips with the fact that times change. Not only does America change, but it has this nattering habit of never reverting to a fantasy past that never existed. Isn't that interesting? As much as you might want it, I'm here to pat you all on the back for correctly predicting that America will not go back to the future and become a nice, all-Christian nation of nuclear families, small government, unfettered capitalism and sealed borders.

The past remains as a reminder of what is good and bad.It is up to us to learn from it.

Now I detect your mockery against in the above.Has it dawned on you that we have millions of non christians of legal status? Somehow they can live here while homogenus foreign nations are that way because they will kill you if you do not fit in.

Because let me tell you, that just breaks my heart. A little tear trickles down my cheek every time I think of the poor, noble individualists having their hard-earned monies funneled into social welfare. I have to choke back a sob every time a Christian feels alone with the implicit endorsement of the state. And it's enough to make me pull out a hanky when the government actually decides to pay respect to minorities, and God forbid, foreigners.

I tell you I get the hysterical laughing mood when I read this crap from you.An insensitive boob you are.

Nevermind that it is the overwhelming christian nation that for decades drives the worlds economy and technological advances that increased the worlds food supply and the general health of the people.

Minorities exist because someone decided to play numbers on a sheet of government paper.Otherwise there is no such population.

Did you wipe your mouth yet?

It's no small irony that conservatives like Pastor Chucky lament the selfishness of the American people. Who would have thought that paying more taxes to provide goods to all people through the government was selfish? But, oh, it is. It's a crime, and downright greed, that we fork over our paychecks into welfare, Social Security, and some measure of medical insurance. Why don't we go back to the good old days, when poverty was dealt with through charity and churches? Let's just say it: who doesn't miss those halycon years, when communities could ignore wholesale people who weren't white and Christian enough?

It is plain that you forget we live in a country founded on certain principles that are obviously foreign to you.

Poverty levels were lower before the great society came along and reduced the church driven charities you mock.Then with the large load of new taxes,we have less to give than we had available to give before 1965.The resulting experiment the Liberals started in the mid 1960's caused more and more people to look to the government for support(Welfare).

Today we live with a failed experiment.The efforts of Democrats over the last 45 years have created the culture the Pastor laments about.

It is called Liberalism.

Oh well. I guess we are doomed, after all.

I have read the Pastors article.I think it is overly gloomy and tinged with a feeling of doom all over it.A very pessimist outlook.

I agree with NT.

I do agree with DoctorDoom too because there has been a decline in our culture.I am not as old as he is but I have seen from my eyes some of the clear signs of decline.

It is my beliefs that the big slide in our culture to its present state of ugliness was apparent in the early 1960's onward.The era of "free love",the outing of the Homosexual life into the public place,the vast increase in drug abuse,the decline of quality in literature in print and celluloid,the nastiness in music,the shabby clothes and so on.

A legacy of Liberalism.

[Riverboat]

Just in case it is overlooked in my sig line ...


"Today, wanting someone else's money is called 'need,' wanting to keep your own money is called 'greed,' and 'compassion' is when politicians arrange the transfer." -- Joe Sobran
I didn't overlook the sig line, but the author is mighty small. Blow it up, sister! Here's another one I like from Sobran: "Progress is what termites would call a house on the verge of collapse."

[HomeschoolrsRUs]

I didn't overlook the sig line, but the author is mighty small. Blow it up, sister! Here's another one I like from Sobran: "Progress is what termites would call a house on the verge of collapse."

Thanks Boat, for the advice -- I have a real difficult time with fonts and sizes here. What looks good on my monitor, obviously doesn't for everyone else. I was asked to increase my font by a member because it was difficult to read -- I did, then I was raked over the coals by two others because my font/size was "childish" written so big and in the comic sans font. I simply can't win for losing at this. I'll increase the size in my sig, see if that helps.
< sigh >

[Wyatt_Junker]

Aetherial's fall-back plan for retirement: 1) Invest in new Magic Marker for cardboard signs 2) Hoard cardboard for signs 3) Buy new black pleather fedora as a coin catcher when held upside down 4) Locate key intersections with highest traffic ticker counts 5) Beg.

Capitalism at its finest!

[DoctorDoom]

The sig line is easily readable, but "Joe Sobran" is difficult for old, imperfect eyes. Size 2 would be better.

One thing that is uncontrollable is the screen resolution of the monitor. What looks good on 800x600 is often too small on 1024x768 or higher. And browsers have minimum font size settings that default to very small.

Other than that, your posts are fine.

[Maggie_T]

Aetherial's fall-back plan for retirement: 1) Invest in new Magic Marker for cardboard signs 2) Hoard cardboard for signs 3) Buy new black pleather fedora as a coin catcher when held upside down 4) Locate key intersections with highest traffic ticker counts 5) Beg.

Capitalism at its finest!

Do you really believe a liberal would go through all that work?! No, love. Beg to differ. Liberals will just continue to vote for whomever promises them that they will continue to live at the expense of the Evil Rich. Much easier.

[dcanner]

I think the next generations may even find conservatism chic. After all, counterculture will become counterliberal soon. My three teenagers are all more conservative than me, if that's possible. They are very hard on liberalism's failure. So, I agree with the pastor's message, but a bit too gloomy.

[Maggie_T]

dcanner, I've been saying the same thing for some time, now. I've even said it to liberals, and they went livid.

It's true. The sorry bastards don't realize it, but they have become the establishment. At least, in academia and the entertainment business. It's they who are the old fogeys, desperately against change.

And since rebellion is part of youth, I'm not surprised that your kids are more conservative than you. The natural thing is that they would want to rebel against the establishment.

Mind you, I'm not complaining. ;)

[dcanner]

Hey, MagT, I've been trying to figure out why libs are grumpy all the time, thanks!

[Maggie_T]

:grin: