Was or is there any life on Mars?

[Popperite]

http://us.cnn.com/2006/TECH/space/03/10/mars.orbiter/index.html

After a number of failures in its Martian program, NASA successfully got the Mars Orbiter in orbit around Mars. I wonder what the feelings on this board are on potential life on that planet. Is there primitive life or might it have become extinct at some point. Will we ever find traces of it, or was there never any life to begin with. Pointless speculation will do.

Yes there is, or was primitive life on Mars. We might find traces of it.

<O:p<O:pNo Mars is a dead planet and always has been.<O:p

[Eagle1]

i honestly have no idea, so my vote is no until i can be convinced otherwise

[nene]

If there was life, I hope it was conservative. Otherwise, no big loss.


just kiddin :grin:

[Popperite]

If there was life, I hope it was conservative. Otherwise, no big loss.


just kiddin :grin:

If it was conservative, it would have been conserved......

ok lame joke....:grin:

[DoctorDoom]

My vote is no. Too much militates against it. However, I qualify that by saying that I refer to indigenous life. Take that FWIW.

[Geoffrey20005]

There have been small rocks from Mars that haad tiny 'tubes', which looked very much like fossilized remains of something a microscopic snake might make. That is about the only arguement that life existed on Mars, along with the deduction that those huge valleys and riverways might once had contained water.

For a little brain tweaker, check out Europa. Personally, that is my belief of where we might find life. http://geo.web.ru/~tevelev/planet/europa.gif

It is an ice-encrusted planet, but because of dilation from Jupiter, the planet has a lot of friction and tectonic activity, giving it a warm interior. The ice extends down maybe as far as 200 km until it turns into water. I think that ice would act as an atmosphere, blocking most of the radiation from the sun.

-Geo

[Republican_Legion]

Scientists believe there is/was life on mars in the form of atoms or cells yet they dont consider a Fetus to be a form of life. I believe there might have been life on mars. God never said anything about there being another planet with life and he did not say there wasnt. That leaves me thinking there might have been life on mars. They chances of a planet having a lifeform of any type is so hard and rare and for there to be a planet like ours that has life forms like us and other species leaves me to believe it even more that only god could create a planet like ours.

[TechnoPrincess]

I think there could be something. I don't know if it will be like anything on this planet, but I do not consider it out of the realm of possibility.

[Popperite]

Time to record my guess! The field is even again!

I somehow feel that if there ever was something there it would have stuck. I know there are supposed to have been unfavourable changes on Mars, but life, once established, is resilient. On earth life has clung to the seemingly most unfavourable enviroments and is thriving there. If there was any life we would have found traces of that. They would have been obvious. The fact that we havn't yet makes me pessimistic about it being there or ever having been there.

[DesertFox]

We gonna find life on Mars.

[Popperite]

We gonna find life on Mars.

Well, I hope your right and I'me wrong. It would be awsome.:grin:

[ThomasIsUnderrated]

We gonna find life on Mars.

Agreed. :moo:

[Bob_Arctor]

It's an interesting question. We knows microbes can live inside rocks deep beneath the Earth's crust - you can drill down a long way and they are everywhere. So we don't see anything alive on the surface of Mars, according to the limited abilities of space probes. But say there had been life way back, in the days of a water Mars. Once it dried out, they could have continued living under the surface, and we won't be able to tell until we can have either people exploring there or really good robot landers, either of which can dig deeper.

Then if we were to find life, we'd have the tougher questions. Is it actually Earth life that was transported to Mars from meteor impacts? Or the reverse - could life on Earth actually be...Martian in origin? Hehehe...

Checking out the metabolism and genome (however it would work on the Martian life) would be awesome. It'd be quite intense to see if it were totally a novel type of life or something related to Earth life.

[Teenager]

Nope, I don't think there has ever been life on Mars, and I certainly don't believe there "is" life on Mars right now.

[DoctorDoom]

I state flatly that there is not now nor has there ever been life on Mars.

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AckackACKack
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So there!

[Un Con Troll Able]

We won't know for certain the answer to that question until a detailed study is conducted of Martian geology. And our current crop of robotic rovers, while able to perform a cursory examination, simply don't have the mobility or scientific capabilities to carry out such a broad-scoped mission.

[Popperite]

There does seem to be a smiling face on Mars. I wonder what Richard Hoagland has to say about that.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/nol/shared/spl/hi/pop_ups/06/sci_nat_enl_1144837428/img/laun.jpg

[JOEVIKING]

I state flatly that there is not now nor has there ever been life on Mars.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v349/DocDoom777/MarsAttacks.jpg
AckackACKack
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ACKackack!


So there!

Now that was a Great Funny Movie.

[DeclinetoState]

I do not believe there is life on Mars. I do believe there is life on Uranus.

[DoctorDoom]

Klingons?

[dajoga]

I voted "NO" and don't care if there is life on Mars. If people want to find out if there's life on mars, let them pay for it. Gov has no business wasting tax money to find out.

[DeclinetoState]

Klingons?

Klingons on Uranus?

[Timberwolf]

The USS Charmin can take care of 'em....

[Gonzo67]

As for present life on Mars. If there is, it will be microbial in form, and it will be far below the surface. As for past life, it's quite possible, though I doubt if it was then anything larger than microbes or bacterial in nature. If there had been actual land dwelling forms of life of any significant size, or even vegetation, the evidence would be readily available in the form of fossils or fossilized remains.

As for the question of life on another planet? I have always believed that somewhere there is. There would HAVE to be, no mater what your "religious" beliefs are.

Take our galaxy alone. There are billions of stars, of which, our Sun is only one. Now if even 1 percent of the stars in our galaxy contain a planetary system, the odds of there NOT being an inhabited planet, even in our own galaxy are so small to begin with. Then take into account that our galaxy is just one galaxy in a space that stretches on to infinity, or as closet to it as can be accurately imagined by the human mind. A space filled with uncountable numbers of galaxies, each with their own "billions of stars" and each one of those stars with the possibility of planetary systems.

You begin to approach numbers that on their own suggest that if there are no other planets with intelligent life, if Earth truly is all that there really is... seems like a pretty big waste of space don't you think?

[Popperite]

Klingons on Uranus?

Its cold there. They like that.

[sunsettommy]

We gonna find life on Mars.

Yeah WE will be there!

:licky:

[DesertFox]

Martians look like little chipmunks. Actually, more like meerkats. They stand around all day on their hind feetsies, looking for hawks and eagles and ground predators. They ignore threats of rain or snow and only really worry about high speed reckless drivers. When not on lookout they're deep down in the ground screwing.

[Gonzo67]

Ahhhh to be a young Martian in love.....

[Popperite]

Something seems to be moving there.....

http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g97/Popperite/580px-Marsdustdevil2.gif

[Timberwolf]

Is that AlGore spinning global warming on Mars??

[DoctorDoom]

That must be what the Martians were watching.

<img src="http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v349/DocDoom777/meerkat.jpg">

[DoctorDoom]

One prerequisite for life is water, and a recent Rover photo shows that there is indeed water on Mars.

http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/image/0504/WaterOnMars2_gcc.jpg

[kkkron]

Klingons?

I'm just hoping we don't find the Borg.

[kkkron]

I agree that Europa is the most likely candidate in our solar system for containing life, but I can't remember the reasons my physics teacher gave for that.

[DesertFox]

The most likely candidate in our galaxy for containing life is -- EARTH!

[DoctorDoom]

Intelligent life is another matter.

[kkkron]

Exactly. When was the last time anyone found intelligent life on Earth? What a hole.

[Popperite]

I agree that Europa is the most likely candidate in our solar system for containing life, but I can't remember the reasons my physics teacher gave for that.

Europa has oceans of water. These are frozen on the surface but they could be liquid underneath as Europa has an internal heat source and is geologically active. That seems to be caused by gravitational forces from Jupiter and other moons of Jupiter.

[Gonzo67]

Well, if they DO discover life elsewhere, I hope it's in another Galaxy. Somewhere far from us. The last thing we need is another 30 million illegal aliens from Zanthon VII here doing the jobs Americans won't do!

[ConspiracyBuff]

I'm preety sure that Marvin the Martian is from Mars.

[kkkron]

Nah, he just says that 'cause he's so damn ugly.

[Naturalized-Texan]

If one believes the claims of of the trash scientists that global warming is being caused by human activities, there must be human life on Mars since there is also global warming there. :evilgrin:

[DoctorDoom]

Nah, he just says that 'cause he's so damn ugly.
<center><font size="6" color="#41B707"><b>I'm coming for you, Earth creature!</b></font></center>
<marquee direction="left"><img src="http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v349/DocDoom777/Marvin.gif"></marquee>

[ConspiracyBuff]

I remember making a wood carved Marvin when I was at summer camp as a kid, sawed it out and everything, painted it, I was very proud of that. Probably my best work of art ever.

[kkkron]

You had a lot of free time at summer camp.

[DesertFox]

I pissed my name in the snow oncet.

[Gonzo67]

Reminds me of a joke:

Bill Clinton was looking out the window of the oval office one winter, and he sees that someone has pissed "Bill Sucks" in the snow below the window.

Outraged, he calls the secret service into the office and says:

"Get out there right now, get a sample of that urine down to the lab. I want to know who did that!"

A few hours later, a secret service agent comes into the oval office with some files and says:

"Mr. President, we have the results of the tests, and I'm sorry to say, it's the Vice Presidents urine."

Outraged, Bill demands the Vice President be brought into the office. But the secret service agent interrupts him saying:

"But sir, thats not all. It's Hillary's hand-writing"

[EveningStar]

I'm preety sure that Marvin the Martian is from Mars.

http://www.gargaro.com/webpages/mad.jpg

[DoctorDoom]

http://www.gargaro.com/webpages/mad.jpg

Happy b-b-birthday, you Thing From Another World, you.

[EveningStar]

http://www.gargaro.com/webpages/mad.jpg

Happy b-b-birthday, you Thing From Another World, you.

Did you know that Marvin the Martian now lives on Earth?

http://www.renewamerica.us/archives/pictures/keyes123.jpg

[kkkron]

I pissed my name in the snow oncet.

Does this have ANY relevance?

[DoctorDoom]

Did you know that Marvin the Martian now lives on Earth?He didn't get any better looking.

[DesertFox]

Does this have ANY relevance?Seems to me they got to discussing works of art, so I contributed. You have evidently never pissed your name in the snow in calligraphy.

Do you have ANY relevance, or are you just on a mission to put on haughty airs?

[heikediguoren]

One prerequisite for life is water, and a recent Rover photo shows that there is indeed water on Mars.

http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/image/0504/WaterOnMars2_gcc.jpg

According to this transmission, not only is there life on Mars, it is Canadian. See http://www.oregonl5.org/mist/marsbar.html for details.

[Popperite]

According to this transmission, not only is there life on Mars, it is Canadian. See http://www.oregonl5.org/mist/marsbar.html for details.

Having seen that I am somewhat distressed to conclude that the Mars bars they send to Europe come from Canada and not the US.

[EveningStar]

<center>I'm coming for you, Earth creature!</center>
<marquee direction="left">http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v349/DocDoom777/Marvin.gif</marquee>

Captain Kirk met privately with Marvin. Later, when the Enterprise crew pressured him for details, he made a startling confession (http://img223.imageshack.us/img223/1016/shatnerpu3.gif).

[kkkron]

Do you have ANY relevance, or are you just on a mission to put on haughty airs?

Both?

[kkkron]

I never knew Mars bars had almonds in them. Honestly, I'm gonna have to go with the Canadian one.

[Franko]

A problem from a Biblical perspective: If there is other life in the universe, they were affected by the 'curse' (2nd law of Thermodynamics) when Adam and Eve screwed up in the garden. So even though the inhabitants of other far away places didn't do anything wrong, they still suffer the consequences of what happened here on earth, as the 2nd law is universal. Doesn't seem just or consistent with the Creator (IMO).

As to water in the universe, a careful reading of Genesis says that the whole universe was made out of water - so no surprise that there would be water interspersed throughout. For more about that, read Dr. Russell Humphrey's little book "Starlight and Time", meant as a basic introduction to his concepts (much of it is in layman's terms). There was much heated discussion in the Technical Journals after his book came out. Dr. Humphreys is a creationist. He also has worked on national particle acceleration projects and has several patents.

I've heard Dr. Hoagland speak on Coast to Coast overnight several times. He's quite entertaining, and it's "fun" to imagine that there are giant structures on the Moon and Mars. Now he's pushed it out further to Jupiter's satellites. I wonder if that's because after closer scrutiny, there doesn't appear to be any massive structures on the Moon, as he once claimed as fact in OMNI magazine (defunct science mag I used to read).

What if there WERE some structures on the moon and Mars and even out at Jupiter? My suspicion would be that the travelers came from Earth! The Earth suffered a great catastrophe that wiped out past knowledge, destroying evidence of advanced cultures long ago. Wild speculation? No more wild (I'd say less actually) than saying there's life out there, somewhere, in deep space. Even with billions of stars and galaxies, the odds of life happening in such a place as earth are still incredibly remote, because of all the conditions necessary (that must be exactly right) for life to happen.

OK, I'll shadddupp. I'm still new to this forum.

[Beowulf]

I say there was at one point or another. Until someone presents me unbiased evidence that shows there never was, I'll stick to what I believe.

And Doc, leave us Klingon types alone or I'll put a disruptor up your nose!!:biggrin:
qa'PLAH

[TechnoPrincess]

Did you know that Marvin the Martian now lives on Earth?

http://www.renewamerica.us/archives/pictures/keyes123.jpg
And ran for the Senate in Illinois because our Republican party is so F'ed up that the Democrats almost look "ethical".....

[DoctorDoom]

And Doc, leave us Klingon types alone or I'll put a disruptor up your nose!!Aren't Klingons usually found hanging around Uranus? :evilgrin:

[Beowulf]

Only the dishonorable ones. The rest of us put up with you humans on a daily basis.:evilgrin:
Hey, at least humans are better to deal with than Ferengi.