A Question for President Vicente Fox

[Maggie_T]

I was listening to Sean Hannity's talk show this afternoon. He aired a segment of an interview of Vicente Fox, or something like that, I'm not sure. Unfortunately, I tuned in late.

Anyway, I was outraged at one of El Presidente's comments. When asked by Hannity why he refused to call wetbacks (my word, not Hannity's) 'illegal immigrants,' Fox babbled some sanctimonious crap to the effect that "these are poor people who come here looking for a better way of life."

Excuse me, Senor Presidente, but isn't providing Mexicans with a good way of life YOUR job? Just asking, since you're the PRESIDENT OF MEXICO. Do you realize that by your own confession, your people are leaving the country in droves to find "a better way of life," which obviously they don't find in THEIR OWN COUNTRY?

You brazenly and shamelssly admit the humongeous failure of your administration in securing good jobs for your own compatriots - especially those who voted you in office - and lecture Americans about poor Mexicans who want a better way of life, as if it was the American government's duty to provide them with that way of life.

How telling that you choose to dump the result of your failed administration on the American people's lap, very much like Castro did, when he sent us a flotilla of disease-ridden criminals some years ago.

THAT is what every American reporter should ask El Presidente. At least, that's what Sean Hannity should have asked him. I can't believe that no one has looked at the matter from that angle yet.

And another thing. Don't even consider bleating to me about "respect for a foreign president." Foreign journalists don't feel the slightest qualm in insulting Bush whenever he travels abroad.

Insult President Fox? WE should be the ones who feel insulted when he blatantly admits he's dumping his failure into our laps and forcing us to deal with it.

Just in case you have not noticed, this immigration problem has me so angry it isn't even funny anymore. And I blame spineless Republicans as much as I blame opportunist democrats.

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Oh, and as my good friend Kathy29 said, don't come to me with any argument about compassion. It's D.O.A.

[ANI]

Perhaps we should take the highground......with an AK-47?

[Telit laikitiz]

Yeah, everyone loves America but they want to wrest it away and replace the republic with their own government. They can't see that that is why their governments have failed. They want the same thing to happen to America. Let someone else do all the work, then come in and take it all for themselves.

[Maggie_T]

Illegals DON'T love America. They want all the American benefits, but none of the responsiblities. Dishonest buggers. I'm all for deporting them. And liberals can kiss my @$$, if they don't like it. :flame:

[Naturalized-Texan]

The best way to stop illegal immigration is to replace Mexico's socialism with free-market capitalism. That way, the Mexican economy can grow and create millions of new and better paying jobs, reducing or eliminating the incentive to cross our southern border illegally.

[Kathy29]

If you imagine in some deluded hallucination that the illegals coming from south of the border "love" America. I direct you to the Lou Dobbs report where he (the only one by the way) reported that the organization known as La Raza sent a memo to the senate yesterday. They categorically reject any reform action that requires the illegal to learn English, assimilate, pay fines (they are poor after all) or anything else contained in the mildest attempt to make them into Americans. The reason: It would harm their communities.

After the senate appeared to explode right before their eyes, the issued an apology. On paper only I'm sure.

[Rink]

Illegals DON'T love America. They want all the American benefits, but none of the responsiblities. Dishonest buggers. I'm all for deporting them. And liberals can kiss my @$$, if they don't like it. :flame:

I got a better idea maggie, instead of just deporting them first, make these illegals work for several years in the penitentiary system WITHOUT PAY, without benefits, and force them to work off what they took from Americans in hard labor to America.

Work for free to Americans in oder to pay back what they took from American citizens.

When captured by INS, every single piece of property should be confiscated from them, SInce after all they are NOT American Citizens the US Constitution does NOT apply when it comes to property rights, right to be secure in their papers et al and any other 'right' i.e. what they worked for gets taken from them, then they are made to work off what they took from America THEN Deported!!!

Aint I so.... mean :evilgrin:

[The_Elucidator]

La Raza sent a memo to the senate yesterday. They categorically reject any reform action that requires the illegal to learn English, assimilate, pay fines (they are poor after all) or anything else contained in the mildest attempt to make them into Americans. The reason: It would harm their communities.

They should change their organization to La Leche since they are always sucking at the tit of the American Government. But since La Leche is already taken (for a good cause) we can just keep calling them wetback criminals.

[Beowulf]

Hey Vicente, :finger:

[omegatrump]

We have increased our dependency on immigration because we have killed 45+ million babies who would be workers. The only way to stop illegal immigration is to enforce America's laws. Prosecute those who hire illegals. Secure the borders with military presence.

I just heard the traitor Bush refer to our legislative process as an unpleasant sausage factory. Does the fact that his conservative base is putting pressure on Congress cause him to feel our Democratic process is an unpleasant experience? This treasonous flake can stand and tell the Mexican Invasion force that he's sorry for the inconvenience?

[Maggie_T]

The only way to stop illegal immigration is 1) delete welfare - completely, 2) deport ALL illegals, 3) replace them with ex-welfare bums.

And don't give me any rot about "Americans find that sort of work demeaning." Anybody who's been hungry - and I mean REALLY hungry, not just hungry for the latest wide-screen TV - will tell you that there is no such thing as "demeaning work."

[nicki33]

As my first ever post I'd like to say ditto to all of you. I am sick over this issue! It's like a cockroach infestation. They invade your house, eat your food, and crap everywhere until we humans have to move out. Well, we're not movin! We need to exterminate and take back our country.

[dPrasse]

Yes , N-T , lets send more factory jobs to Mexico ... that'll help , right ?

We had 2 more companies announce lay-offs/closings in my area because they are moving factories out of the US ....

the only way to get Mexico to become a Capitalist economy is to send in the troops and remove Fox ... who wants to sell that one to the public ...

I believe this illegal immigrant problem has as much to do with economics as terrorism does ... zilch ...

These protesting idjuts are stating that THEY are the rightful owners of the SW US areas ... has NOTHING to do with jobs , it is political ... but , W seems to be blind regarding the realities of politics ... butt kissing does not work ! Inviting the Kennedy's over for weenies and a movie does not make them friends , Taking Putin out to the Ranch for a B-B-Q doesn't make him an Ally ... sweet talking Muslims has not lessened tension in Iraq ...

[dPrasse]

I just heard the traitor Bush refer to our legislative process as an unpleasant sausage factory.

not the first time he has shown his lack of understanding on how things work here ... is it him or his advisors that seem to have no clue ? or both ?

"I told all four that there are going to be some times where we don't agree with each other, but that's OK. If this were a dictatorship, it would be a heck of a lot easier, just so long as I'm the dictator," Bush joked.
-- CNN.com, December 18, 2000

"A dictatorship would be a heck of a lot easier, there's no question about it, " [Bush] said.
-- Business Week, July 30, 2001

[Riverboat]

I just heard the traitor Bush refer to our legislative process as an unpleasant sausage factory. He's right. The last 10-12 inches of that intestinal casing is his, and he's never shown any inclination to squeeze it shut to keep the half-digested pork and fingernail clippings mixed in from emerging.

[Rhino]

As my first ever post I'd like to say ditto to all of you. I am sick over this issue! It's like a cockroach infestation. They invade your house, eat your food, and crap everywhere until we humans have to move out. Well, we're not movin! We need to exterminate and take back our country.Welcome, Nicki. Post some more.

[maxparrish]

Maggie is quite right (as usual). The only solution is a bit of the Milosovic method. No doubt the liberal cities will hide the illegals (SF, L.A., etc.) and we will have to break down doors, arrest their accessories, and line up 10,000 buses and start shipping.

The UN will scream, the world court will put us trial, some talk will circulate about economic sanctions. Mexico will threaten to send troops to its border to stop the buses. It will get nasty but, in my lurid dreams I see it unfolding this way:

The U.S. military will destroy the Army of greasy, pot-bellied, corrupt beaner army. Peasants will run, others will leave for a case of MRE's. The few fanatic Mexican patriots for the disgusting culture and its system will be incinerated. US military forces need to drive, perhaps, 100 miles into Mexico, and let the refugees out at a US built tent camps - perhaps 100 of them. Give them enough food and water to last 6 weeks, and each camp should have ability to house 100,000 people a piece.

Millions will be transported to camps, each can be run by the wetbacks themselves (they'll fight each other soon enough when food runs out and the Mexican oil profits are NOT used to feed them). Within a year, most illegals AND their supporters will be in Mexico, the border fortified.

Kids will start asking for summer, fast food, and after school lawn and garden jobs; mothers may opt to stay home with children rather than using Mexican nannies; American craftsmanship and quality might return to the building industry; spiraling housing costs and rents may be checked in the most overheated markets (e.g. the border and high immigration states). School scores will suddenly rise, schools will be flush with windfall funds, special ed costs will plummet, ethnic demands will fall. State and local taxes might be reduced, crime will plummet, prisons will have 33% more space overnight and new prisons won't need to be constantly built, gangs will be crippled...HOW TERRIBLE.

[Maggie_T]

All we really need is a GENUINE LEADER who's not afraid of polls, the MSM, and the opinion of international socialism, who'll take this bull by the horns, and who'll tell liberals to sit down and STFU.

Yeah, right. :sulk:

[Timberwolf]

The way to stop the flow of illegals is to inform Senor Presidente that he has 6 months to stem the tide or he will hear 3 very loud explosions. Those explosions will be Daisy cutters being detonated roughly 5 miles outside Mexico City. Once that happens, inform him that he NOW has 3 more months to "get with the program" or the next 3 noises he'll hear are 3 MOABS being detonated IN Mexico City.

That oughta get his attention.

[Truth_Hunter]

All we really need is a GENUINE LEADER who's not afraid of polls, the MSM, and the opinion of international socialism, who'll take this bull by the horns, and who'll tell liberals to sit down and STFU.

Yeah, right. :sulk:

Polls provide PRETEXT for advancing an agenda.

Polls -- which can be MANUFACTURED (see the book, "How to Lie with Statistics" or some such) through leading questions etc -- allow the politico to CLAIM he is "following the will of the people".

It thereby MASKS the true gulf between the reality of the Will of the People and their political decision making.

It is LIP SERVICE to America's fabled "Republic".

"Your" elected officials get YOUR tax money.

With all due respect to those who say they are "stupid", fine, they're dumb, as dumb as they come...

but they wind up with YOUR MONEY.

How dumb is that?

Sorry to pose the question, but it is a factually true statement: they wind up salaried, pensioned, and perked on YOUR GOLD.

[DoctorDoom]

Follow the money. We kiss Fox's ass because ...

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And which political persuasion is keeping us dependent on imported oil by making it all but impossible to exploit domestic energy resources? Hint: it's not conservatives.

[Maggie_T]

There, see? That's what happens when our elected weasels soil their underwear when liberals and eco-nazis frown at them, instead of telling them what's what.

We MUST drill ANWAR. What's keeping us? The democrat minority in CONgress? :flame: