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DesertFox
03-31-2006, 08:41 AM
Tucson Citizen
31 Mar 06


Following a week of massive immigrant rights protests, a group of students in Apache Junction burned a Mexican flag, reported a local newspaper.

A Hispanic student had brought the flag to school Thursday morning in a response to what he said was a racist remark directed at him the day before. After he and other students raised the flag over Apache Junction High School, another group of students took it down and burned it, according to the East Valley Tribune newspaper.

The burning and ensuing shoving match between the two groups of students happened before most students arrived at the school.

The six students - three Hispanic and three white - will be disciplined, said school principal Chad Wilson. Officials with the Apache Junction Unified School District would not specify what kind of punishment the students face.

More (http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/A/AZ_MEXICAN_FLAG_BURNING_AZOL-?SITE=AZTUC&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT)

Riverboat
03-31-2006, 08:45 AM
I posted this elsewhere in the immigration forum, but I'll repeat it here.

I have a large Mexican flag hanging in my classroom I'm willing to part with. Let the bidding begin.

Native American
03-31-2006, 08:52 AM
Three cheers for those brave kids who stood up to those self-righteous Hispanic criminals who raised a foreign country's flag on AMERICAN soil!!!

The kids who burned the Mexican flag should be praised by the school administration, and the Hispanics who raised that foreign country flag on American public property should be expelled from school, and expelled from the country if they are illegal aliens.

DoctorDoom
03-31-2006, 08:52 AM
This will be interesting. Will the liberalosers who screech that burning an American flag is free speech also defend burning a wetback flag on that basis?

Native American
03-31-2006, 08:55 AM
Time to start burning Hispanics (and not just the Mexican flag!) in effigy too.

After all, the Libs always feel it's fine to burn an effigy of the President of the United States. So Hispanics in effigy are fair game too.

Hey Libs, two can play at your games.

BuckeyeMike
03-31-2006, 09:19 AM
If the MSM will do its job, I will be watching this one closely.......also hope to see some kind of reaction from the inside-the-beltway crowd. George and the gang will probably label the flag burners as "vigilantes," or give some smarmy statement bordering on "can't we all get along"!

DoctorDoom
03-31-2006, 09:29 AM
<img src="http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v349/DocDoom777/getalong.jpg" />

BuckeyeMike
03-31-2006, 09:34 AM
It would be nice I guess, but.....No....we can't. If liberals would stop being liberals, I guess there might be a chance, but you can't get a skunk to change it's odor.

Telit laikitiz
03-31-2006, 09:38 AM
Maybe they should punish the kids by making them study and learn, and isn't that why they go to school? Well, it was when I went, but I don't know why they go to school these days. It doesn't seem right that kids play with fire on school property, or that they bring a flag to school unless they were given an assignment to do it. These kids are just learning what the adults are teaching them. They learn darn good too!

DesertFox
03-31-2006, 09:41 AM
Some federal court decided back in the Seventies that you can't stop a kid bringing to school any flag he wants, as it's part of his freedom of expression. I ran into this one when a punk idiot student of mine thought it clever to bring a Soviet flag to school, wrapping it around himself as though it were a cloak.

Wyatt_Junker
03-31-2006, 09:42 AM
This will be interesting. Will the liberalosers who screech that burning an American flag is free speech also defend burning a wetback flag on that basis?

They will not. It goes against their Sesame Street chants. Only masochism is acceptable, not sadism. Liberals are social perverts and multiculturalism is a psychosexual disorder.

dPrasse
03-31-2006, 11:56 AM
This will be interesting. Will the liberalosers who screech that burning an American flag is free speech also defend burning a wetback flag on that basis?

No , there is a difference ...

burning the American flag is free speech ... burning the Mexican flag is hate speech ...

Rink
03-31-2006, 01:32 PM
I would love to see MORE Mexican flags burning bu pissed off Americans, just the act of doing it just might send a signal to these mexican advocates to BACK THA HELL OFF! and to our spineless Politicians that the American people have had their fill.

WHy cant Americans get organized and start nationwide Mexican-flag burnings for?

Lazarus
03-31-2006, 01:50 PM
And so it begins..................

bannerman
03-31-2006, 05:09 PM
I would love to see MORE Mexican flags burning bu pissed off Americans, just the act of doing it just might send a signal to these mexican advocates to BACK THA HELL OFF! and to our spineless Politicians that the American people have had their fill.

WHy cant Americans get organized and start nationwide Mexican-flag burnings for?
they burn our FLAG e get pissd off


we burn THIER flag and they send a gang to cut off our fingers before killing us

they are still as tribal as the desert dweller jihadists

Beowulf
03-31-2006, 05:40 PM
No , there is a difference ...

burning the American flag is free speech ... burning the Mexican flag is hate speech ...

Good point, Prasse. Very good point. It sounds as if another Liberal double standard has been initiated. You know, it's OK to burn our flag but it's dead wrong to burn anyone elses.

Rink
03-31-2006, 05:58 PM
they burn our FLAG e get pissd off


we burn THIER flag and they send a gang to cut off our fingers before killing us

they are still as tribal as the desert dweller jihadists

They can TRY to cut MY fingers off and they will be found with their knives shoved up their you-know-whut backends.

I dont take no threats from sissy-boy illegals who are pissing on MY country!!!

MY Country Not theirs, if they dont like it they can GO HOME!

Wolfcounsel
03-31-2006, 06:01 PM
"they burn our FLAG e get pissd off


we burn THIER flag and they send a gang to cut off our fingers before killing us

they are still as tribal as the desert dweller jihadists" --bannerman


Cowards run in packs.<!-- / message --><!-- sig -->

bannerman
03-31-2006, 06:22 PM
They can TRY to cut MY fingers off and they will be found with their knives shoved up their you-know-whut backends.

I dont take no threats from sissy-boy illegals who are pissing on MY country!!!

MY Country Not theirs, if they dont like it they can GO HOME!


this may be the opportune moment to organize such flag burnings

bannerman
03-31-2006, 06:23 PM
"they burn our FLAG e get pissd off


we burn THIER flag and they send a gang to cut off our fingers before killing us

they are still as tribal as the desert dweller jihadists" --bannerman


Cowards run in packs.<!-- / message --><!-- sig -->


absolutely the mexican gang members are rarely alone

it appawently fwitens em

DeclinetoState
03-31-2006, 06:28 PM
I'm not in favor of flag burning, be it Mexican or American. However, if burning the American flag is protected speech under the First Amendment--and I think many agree it is--then burning the Mexican or any other national flag must also be protected speech.

sunsettommy
03-31-2006, 06:45 PM
LOL,

So we have legal mexican born living in America that is owned and run by Americans.

So we have illegal mexicans living in America that is owned and run by Americans.

All the people immigrants legal or not are living here in AMERICA! A "melting pot" nation under a SINGLE FLAG!

THE AMERICAN FLAG

To me that means only the American flag can fly along with the states flag just below on the pole.

There is no room for more than ONE nation in a nation.Since that nation is America.Only the American flag can be on the pole.

If Mexicans want to raise the mexican flag.They should go back to mexico and do it there.It is not welcomed on our pole and that is the way it is.

It is our DUTY to take down ANY mexican flag found on a pole within American borders and burn it.That is the sign of a true American.

If you mexicans do not like it take a hike back south to that inept and corrupt country called mexico.

To hell with their flag and BURN IT!

I think that sums it quite nicely.

sunsettommy
03-31-2006, 06:48 PM
I'm not in favor of flag burning, be it Mexican or American. However, if burning the American flag is protected speech under the First Amendment--and I think many agree it is--then burning the Mexican or any other national flag must also be protected speech.

I really do not care about your "freedom of speech" angle when it pertains to foreign flags being raised on poles reserved for American flags.

This is a America and by golly only American flags should be on the poles.

That should clear it up.

Beowulf
03-31-2006, 08:22 PM
I think organized Mexican flag burnings as a protest is a good idea. The media will get ahold of it. It might sound crazy but this may work to our advantage.

Warlady
03-31-2006, 08:36 PM
From the article:

Wilson said he e-mailed teachers separately Thursday about the incident, but left it up to them to decide if and how they should address the issue in their classrooms. Now that's what I call true leadership :crazy:

He emphasized that six out of the school's 1,618 students were involved in the flag fight, and many students might not have the same problems dealing with the racially charged immigration debate. yet


<!-- BEGIN MEDIA BOX NUMBER 4 --><!-- END MEDIA BOX NUMBER 4 -->School flagpoles have been lightning rods across the country this week, including an incident in which a Houston high school principal was disciplined after he flew a Mexican flag underneath his campus' U.S. and state flags. And this discipline consisted of what?

A new political awareness among high school students has also been grabbing attention, as thousands of teenagers in Arizona and other states have walked out of classes to join rallies nationwide. Oh yeah that's the answer. Take a siesta. Cause a little violence. Sever a few more girls hands.

Last Friday, more than 20,000 people protested in downtown Phoenix against a bill that would have made it a felony to be an illegal immigrant in the United States. Anyone taking bets that none of these students has even read the bills being introduced? Why shouldn't it be a felony to illegally enter another country? It is in Mexico.

Conserv_Atticus
03-31-2006, 08:36 PM
damn them!! They took my idea!!! Rats, i better move fast next time!

Wolfcounsel
03-31-2006, 08:49 PM
If Americans burn all damned Mexican flags on public display, what are the cowardly public servants going to do about it?

Conserv_Atticus
03-31-2006, 08:58 PM
I also am all for buring the Mexican flag. And i will gladly do it in public in front of hundreds of people.

ldb83
03-31-2006, 09:02 PM
The conservatives who throw a flaming fit when an American flag is burned and then cheer burning other flags are just as hypocritical as the liberals who fight for the right to burn the American flag and get upset over any other flag burning.

Wolfcounsel
03-31-2006, 09:22 PM
"The conservatives who throw a flaming fit when an American flag is burned and then cheer burning other flags are just as hypocritical as the liberals who fight for the right to burn the American flag and get upset over any other flag burning." --ldb83

The Mexican flag was doing okay here in America until the Aztec wannabes, Mechica assholes, and their cheerleaders decided the Mexican colors take sovereignty here. They, along with their cheerleaders, sympathizers, and assorted sycophants can blow it out their asses, and if necessary, die for nothing. And they can take their butt-ugly Pancho music to Hell with them.:evilgrin:

Riverboat
03-31-2006, 09:22 PM
What goes around comes around, 83. Just like your dear old dad used to say.

Conserv_Atticus
03-31-2006, 09:31 PM
The conservatives who throw a flaming fit when an American flag is burned and then cheer burning other flags are just as hypocritical as the liberals who fight for the right to burn the American flag and get upset over any other flag burning.


:bsflag:




We aren't the ones who go to the middle east and take down their flags and hoist up the Stars and Stripes. We don't go to mexico and take down theirs and hoist ours. Towel heads burn our flag because we refuse to submit to their backward ways and butt humping moon God. And these stupid mexican kids don't know what the hell they are getting themselves into. I find hoisting the Mexican flag over the beautiful stars and stripes a direct threat to the US and they are just asking to get dealt with.

I do not find burning the mexican flag hypocritical in any way shape or form.

DoctorDoom
03-31-2006, 09:35 PM
LiberalDingBat83IQ, go find a Yahoo middle-school chatroom where you'll be amongst your peers, and stop bothering the adults here. You're a crashing bore.

ldb83
03-31-2006, 09:43 PM
I do not find burning the mexican flag hypocritical in any way shape or form.
Neither do I. What I find hypocritical is someone who throws a fit about how wrong it is when it's one type of flag and then fights for the right to burn another type. It's all the same type of free speech.

LiberalDingBat83IQ, go find a Yahoo middle-school chatroom where you'll be amongst your peers, and stop bothering the adults here. You're a crashing bore.
If I did, I would have to put up with EVERYONE using immature names, making cute little variations of my alias, and insulting others. Here I only have to put up with your immature bullcrap, and considering what a horribly miserable person one must be to never be able to stray from using such ugly negativity, putting up with it isn't so hard. I just kind of feel sorry for you.

Riverboat
03-31-2006, 11:05 PM
I'm opposed to turning flag-burning into a Constitutional issue. Is that good enough?

DoctorDoom
03-31-2006, 11:19 PM
If I did, I would have to put up with EVERYONE using immature names, making cute little variations of my alias, and insulting others.That's the downside of being a troll, child. Live with it.

Longhorn_Platinum
04-01-2006, 07:22 AM
ldb83:
Neither do I. What I find hypocritical is someone who throws a fit about how wrong it is when it's one type of flag and then fights for the right to burn another type.

:moo: How does this sound? I have no problem with somebody burning a flag that was raised over American soil in an act of defiance to The United States of America. And if somebody wants to burn an American flag in a similar act of defiance, he/she/it can be my guest. Only, they should do it in another country, & not bother coming back here.

It's all the same type of free speech.

:moo: As soon as you get to that country where it's popular to burn American flags, write back & tell us all about the freedom of speech your new government grants you.

sunsettommy
04-01-2006, 08:16 AM
The conservatives who throw a flaming fit when an American flag is burned and then cheer burning other flags are just as hypocritical as the liberals who fight for the right to burn the American flag and get upset over any other flag burning.

Oh my you have trouble with this concept of American soverignty.The American flag raised in America on tall poles.The only flag that represents America.

All other foreign flags are not allowed on the poles across America.Any found on any flagpole MUST be taken down and burned and in its place a American flag is unfurled.

It really is that simple.

DesertFox
04-01-2006, 08:17 AM
What I find hypocritical is someone who throws a fit about how wrong it is when it's one type of flag and then fights for the right to burn another type. It's all the same type of free speech.I see. You have zero idea what it takes to make a country work. Symbols matter. How symbols are used or misused matters. Plato knew this 2300 years ago when he talked about idols of the cave. The guy who first talked about inventing God if God didn't exist -- he knew it.

As usual, you don't have the foggiest notion what you're talking about. You take a grade school idea about "fairness" and a slightly more sophisticated notion of "hypocrisy" and apply them to situations where more sophisticated levels of understanding are required to sort thru the issues. You need to shut up and listen.

sunsettommy
04-01-2006, 08:25 AM
Originally Posted by Conserv_Atticus
I do not find burning the mexican flag hypocritical in any way shape or form.


IDB83
Neither do I. What I find hypocritical is someone who throws a fit about how wrong it is when it's one type of flag and then fights for the right to burn another type. It's all the same type of free speech.


I have to agree with Conserv...

Mexican flags do not belong on American soil.They must be taken down and burned as part of defending the American flag.

They must be burned as part of defending the honor of the American flag,the ONLY legal flag.

There is a difference here in that soverignty is the issue NOT free speech.

We must defend the American flag against all others on OUR SOIL.

You must know the difference or you are not really an American in spirit.

Telit laikitiz
04-01-2006, 08:42 AM
I have to agree with Conserv...

Mexican flags do not belong on American soil.They must be taken down and burned as part of defending the American flag.

They must be burned as part of defending the honor of the American flag,the ONLY legal flag.

There is a difference here in that soverignty is the issue NOT free speech.

We must defend the American flag against all others on OUR SOIL.

You must know the difference or you are not really an American in spirit.


I will stand with you and defend the U.S. and flag any day. This is an issue of soverignty, they can burn any flag they want outside of the U.S., but any country that wants to replace our flag with another one is declaring war.

DeclinetoState
04-01-2006, 11:21 AM
Actually, I believe there are protocols for flying foreign flags on U.S. soil. At the UN, flags are lined up in alphabetical order according to the name of the country (I don't know if the alphabetization is in English, French, or the respective countries' native language; my guess would be English). In other places, the U.S. flag can be above or at the same level as a foreign flag, but never below it. I also think the U.S. flag has to be on its right (which I think is our left, but since I have no plans to fly anyone else's flag anywhere, it's not my problem).

Riverboat
04-01-2006, 12:33 PM
Actually, I believe there are protocols for flying foreign flags on U.S. soil. Not to mention Texas. In our town, as well as any other, we fly the Six Flags Over Texas. Of course, the Stars and Bars was replaced by a more sensitive version a few years ago when a busybody lawyer sued, and the city councilmen peeked in their underwear and discovered they had no dicks.

Fortunately, the town plaza is across the street from the police station. Hope they're keeping an eye on the pole with that red, white and green flag.

DesertFox
04-01-2006, 03:59 PM
After he and other students raised the flag over Apache Junction High School, another group of students took it down and burned itA dude who works in the Phoenix Union HS district told me today that the "other group of students" were JROTC cadets who took down the Mexican flag and returned it to the Mexicans who then put it right back up, sneering. THEN the JROTC cadets took it down and burned it. The prince had the cops arrest the JROTC ringleader, who spent the night in jail.

DesertFox
04-01-2006, 04:51 PM
I don't think they took the US flag down. They put the Mexican flag up before the US flag had been put up.

Scared
04-01-2006, 05:26 PM
Originally Posted by sunsettommy
I have to agree with Conserv...

Mexican flags do not belong on American soil.They must be taken down and burned as part of defending the American flag.

They must be burned as part of defending the honor of the American flag,the ONLY legal flag.

There is a difference here in that soverignty is the issue NOT free speech.

We must defend the American flag against all others on OUR SOIL.

You must know the difference or you are not really an American in spirit.

That's the exact same rational as the people in other countries burning the American flag. Arab countries are "defending the honor" of their flags by burning the American flag, yet you see that as unacceptable, even though you propose doing the exact same thing. Interesting...

ldb83
04-01-2006, 05:54 PM
That's the exact same rational as the people in other countries burning the American flag. Arab countries are "defending the honor" of their flags by burning the American flag, yet you see that as unacceptable, even though you propose doing the exact same thing. Interesting...

LIBERAL SCUM!!!!

To think like a conservative, you must never try to understand how your enemy thinks. It's his fault he's not a Christian capitalist. Consider him evil and annihilate him.

Melz
04-01-2006, 06:19 PM
That's the exact same rational as the people in other countries burning the American flag. Arab countries are "defending the honor" of their flags by burning the American flag, yet you see that as unacceptable, even though you propose doing the exact same thing. Interesting...

Huh? I have no problem with arab countries burning the American flag, I have a problem with them behedding Americans though, and flying planes into our buildings, etc. What part of arab behaviour am I supposed to understand there ldb? The last thing that concerns me about arab countries is their burning of American flags.

I DO and always WILL have a problem with Americans who burn American flags. If we try to hoist our flag up in other countries, I almost expect someone over there to burn it, oh well.

How are you not understanding the difference between burning a Mexican flag in America and burning and American flag in America?

The_Elucidator
04-01-2006, 06:44 PM
Huh? I have no problem with arab countries burning the American flag, I have a problem with them behedding Americans though, and flying planes into our buildings, etc. What part of arab behaviour am I supposed to understand there ldb? The last thing that concerns me about arab countries is their burning of American flags.

I DO and always WILL have a problem with Americans who burn American flags. If we try to hoist our flag up in other countries, I almost expect someone over there to burn it, oh well.

How are you not understanding the difference between burning a Mexican flag in America and burning and American flag in America?

Conservative Scum

To think like a liberal, is to put more emphasis on what a terrorists thinks and completely ignoring previous actions, all the while handing over controls to the airplane full of women and children and let him fly it into a building killing more civilians.

DoctorDoom
04-01-2006, 08:04 PM
One wonders if Scared and the 83-IQ troll meet at night to congratulate each other in various intimate ways. Obviously the staff at their home forgot to lock the gates again.

<img src="http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v349/DocDoom777/Idiotasylum.jpg" />

DesertFox
04-01-2006, 08:28 PM
To think like a conservative, you must never try to understand how your enemy thinks. It's his fault he's not a Christian capitalist. Consider him evil and annihilate him.Boy, are you ever clueless. It's only conservatives who understand how our enemy thinks. We understand that he respects raw force and nothing else. No one cares if he's a Christian or not; conservatives care about how he acts. If he acts evilly toward us, then it's entirely appropriate to annihilate him.

Scared
04-02-2006, 09:18 AM
Huh? I have no problem with arab countries burning the American flag, I have a problem with them behedding Americans though, and flying planes into our buildings, etc. What part of arab behaviour am I supposed to understand there ldb? The last thing that concerns me about arab countries is their burning of American flags.

I DO and always WILL have a problem with Americans who burn American flags. If we try to hoist our flag up in other countries, I almost expect someone over there to burn it, oh well.

How are you not understanding the difference between burning a Mexican flag in America and burning and American flag in America?

Legally, burning the American flag and burning the Mexican flag is the same protected form of free speech. Besides the ignorance shown in the action of burning the Mexican or American flags, I have no problem with this legally protected right. Yet the rational of burning the Mexican flag in America is the same as burning the American flag in Arab countries, and I know of several people who are unable to see this commonality.

Beowulf
04-02-2006, 09:26 AM
Legally, burning the American flag and burning the Mexican flag is the same protected form of free speech. Besides the ignorance shown in the action of burning the Mexican or American flags, I have no problem with this legally protected right. Yet the rational of burning the Mexican flag in America is the same as burning the American flag in Arab countries, and I am know of several people who are unable to see this commonality.

Nice English, Scared.

Scared
04-02-2006, 09:33 AM
Nice English, Scared.

I'm glad to see that the only problem you have with my post is my incorrect use of English. (Though judging from the standards of previous posts, my use of the English language is relatively respectable.)

DoctorDoom
04-02-2006, 10:00 AM
Legally, burning the American flag and burning the Mexican flag is the same protected form of free speech.Only a liberaloser would call burning a flag "speech". It requires minimal intelligence. It would take thirty seconds to teach a chimpanzee to do it (of course, the chimp is ten times as intelligent as the average flag burner).

BTW, if an asshole burning a flag is considered "speech", then delivering an attitude adjustment to the asshole is also "speech".

DesertFox
04-02-2006, 10:26 AM
Yep. Burning another country's flag within the borders of your own country is fine. But a national flag is a powerful emotional symbol, and burning or otherwise disrespecting a country's flag within its own borders as a political statement is a declaration of war by whoever does it. Nations need sacred symbols and they need to be kept sacred.

Scared
04-02-2006, 10:47 AM
Only a liberaloser would call burning a flag "speech". It requires minimal intelligence. It would take thirty seconds to teach a chimpanzee to do it (of course, the chimp is ten times as intelligent as the average flag burner).

And yet some of the conservative members are suggesting that flags should be burned? It appears that you are insulting everyone who is in support of burning the Mexican flag.

Yep. Burning another country's flag within the borders of your own country is fine. But a national flag is a powerful emotional symbol, and burning or otherwise disrespecting a country's flag within its own borders as a political statement is a declaration of war by whoever does it. Nations need sacred symbols and they need to be kept sacred.

I'm not condoning the burning of the American flag by Americans, I'm merely saying that the right to burn another country's flag is the same as the right to burn the American flag. That said, the burning of the American flag by Americans is unnecessary and offensive.

DesertFox
04-02-2006, 10:49 AM
Not just "burning the American flag by Americans," but burning it in America as a political statement.

DeclinetoState
04-02-2006, 11:22 AM
Only a liberaloser would call burning a flag "speech".

Burning a flag (especially one's own) communicates a message perfectly clearly: "I am a jackass."

There are no laws against one making a jackass of oneself. If there were, Ted Kennedy, Cynthia McKinney, Howard Dean, John Kerry, Lincoln Chafee, and probably even some of us (and by that I include myself) would be in jail--or at least a lot of trouble--even without burning any flag.

Beowulf
04-02-2006, 12:33 PM
I'm glad to see that the only problem you have with my post is my incorrect use of English. (Though judging from the standards of previous posts, my use of the English language is relatively respectable.)

What makes you think I agree with what you said? I have little to say to you as Doc has pretty much summed up how I feel. I let him have his way with you.

sunsettommy
04-02-2006, 02:07 PM
Originally Posted by sunsettommy
I have to agree with Conserv...

Mexican flags do not belong on American soil.They must be taken down and burned as part of defending the American flag.

They must be burned as part of defending the honor of the American flag,the ONLY legal flag.

There is a difference here in that soverignty is the issue NOT free speech.

We must defend the American flag against all others on OUR SOIL.

You must know the difference or you are not really an American in spirit.

Scared]That's the exact same rational as the people in other countries burning the American flag. Arab countries are "defending the honor" of their flags by burning the American flag, yet you see that as unacceptable, even though you propose doing the exact same thing. Interesting...

:thud:

Gawd you just do not get it.

Arabs in THEIR country can burn any foreign flag they want.

I would understand their doing it too.It is THEIR country and their decision on protecting the significance of THEIR flag in THEIR own country.

I doubt you would.

Now we have a post by DesertFox showing this:

A dude who works in the Phoenix Union HS district told me today that the "other group of students" were JROTC cadets who took down the Mexican flag and returned it to the Mexicans who then put it right back up, sneering. THEN the JROTC cadets took it down and burned it. The prince had the cops arrest the JROTC ringleader, who spent the night in jail.

The actions of anyone deliberately putting up a foreign flag in place of the American flag is to me offensive.The deliberate actions on their part to me means they want to incite a negative reaction.A reaction in a country they apparently do not like.A country that is giving them much more than that crappy country down south has given them.

Otherwise why immigrate by the millions the last few years?

American Veterans have fought for America and they did it with the AMERICAN flag to rally around.The American dead soldiers have made the ultimate sacrifice to keep this land American.

Your thinking on this is unimpressive.

You lack the American spirit.

sunsettommy
04-02-2006, 02:08 PM
LIBERAL SCUM!!!!

To think like a conservative, you must never try to understand how your enemy thinks. It's his fault he's not a Christian capitalist. Consider him evil and annihilate him.

ZZZZZzzzzzzz........

sunsettommy
04-02-2006, 02:14 PM
Legally, burning the American flag and burning the Mexican flag is the same protected form of free speech. Besides the ignorance shown in the action of burning the Mexican or American flags, I have no problem with this legally protected right. Yet the rational of burning the Mexican flag in America is the same as burning the American flag in Arab countries, and I know of several people who are unable to see this commonality.

Arab countries do not have freedom of speech protection.

There goes your argument right out the door.

If you bother to read DesertFox's post about JROTC cadets doing the defending of the American flag by removing a foreign flag from the pole.

You would know that only American flags(including state flags) belong on school flagpoles and nothing else.A Mexican national flag has no business being on a school flagpole.

Hoisting a foreign flag by such students up a flagpole are students who needs to be sent back to Mexico.They have no business perverting the significance of our Flag.

It is an issue of American soveriegnty that must be defended.

PERIOD!

DoctorDoom
04-02-2006, 04:19 PM
And yet some of the conservative members are suggesting that flags should be burned? It appears that you are insulting everyone who is in support of burning the Mexican flag.Clue time, troll: I don't give a damn about the flags of other countries. I don't pledge my allegiance to the Mexican flag. I'm a citizen of the USofA, the greatest nation that ever existed, not to Fox's third-world sewer. And I don't tolerate scum of any nationality burning the stars and stripes in America.

When it happens in other countries, I don't like it, but I expect it from the asswipes. But when it's done in America by contemptible scumbags, whether citizens or invaders, who avail themselves of our freedom by spewing their hatred and scorn, then I see no argument against kicking the shit out of the bastards and burying what's left in a shoebox.

And if you don't like that, troll, you can

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Got it?

Timberwolf
04-02-2006, 05:43 PM
It never ceases to amaze me...the abject cluelessness of those on the left.

When is it appropriate, in the USA, to have a Mexican flag flying on a flagpole reserved for the American flag? NEVER.

For those of us who need more info, the following is a fairly good resource page:
http://www.ushistory.org/betsy/flagetiq.html
Just a bit of advice...if you're here in America and have a problem with our national symbol(s), feel free to relocate to other environs where you'll feel more comfortable...and, if you feel the need to burn the flag that represents MY country whilst you're here, please do me a favor and wrap yourself in it first. (Thanks to Maxine and Maggie for that one).

DoctorDoom
04-02-2006, 06:20 PM
... if you feel the need to burn the flag that represents MY country whilst you're here, please do me a favor and wrap yourself in it first.The proper disposal of a defiled flag is burning, and it is beyond argument that any flag that contacts the vile, corrupt body of a liberal has been defiled.

Truth_Hunter
04-03-2006, 01:33 AM
Fantastic.

These kids have more courage than our political leaders. Much more. They physically faced the threat of attack from the Hispanic criminals trying to stop them, and then risked discipline at school for standing up for their country.

There's actually some juice left in this country, God be Praised!

Truth_Hunter
04-03-2006, 01:37 AM
It never ceases to amaze me...the abject cluelessness of those on the left.

When is it appropriate, in the USA, to have a Mexican flag flying on a flagpole reserved for the American flag? NEVER.

For those of us who need more info, the following is a fairly good resource page:http://www.ushistory.org/betsy/flagetiq.html
Just a bit of advice...if you're here in America and have a problem with our national symbol(s), feel free to relocate to other environs where you'll feel more comfortable...and, if you feel the need to burn the flag that represents MY country whilst you're here, please do me a favor and wrap yourself in it first. (Thanks to Maxine and Maggie for that one).

By what objective criteria would you differentiate between:


innocent stupidity
cunning treason (aiding and abetting a foreign power, Mexico)
I assert that this is a critical argument to make, clearly and cogently. I have been saying this for years.

Maggie_T
04-03-2006, 04:42 PM
... and, if you feel the need to burn the flag that represents MY country whilst you're here, please do me a favor and wrap yourself in it first. (Thanks to Maxine and Maggie for that one).

:thumb: ;)

dPrasse
04-03-2006, 05:01 PM
Hoisting a foreign flag by such students up a flagpole are students who needs to be sent back to Mexico.They have no business perverting the significance of our Flag.

It is an issue of American soveriegnty that must be defended.PERIOD!


Excellent point !! We are talking sovereignty here ... not some inappropriate banner being run up the flag pole ... One needs to read and understand the thoughts of the Mexican agitators in this country ... they think the SW US is PART of Mexico ... this is a declaration of war on their part as far as I see it ...

As far as burning flags ...

shouldn't the "guest workers" be burning Mexican flags to protest the idiots in power of Mexico , the ones trashing the wealth of the country ... the ones making things so bad in Mexico , the "guest workers" must leave their homes and families just to find work (isn't that the sob story all of the pro-guest workers keep touting ?? )

Mexicans should be burning Mexican flags in protest ... unless this is a declaration of war on the US on their part , then we need to deal with the invaders properly ...

Wolfcounsel
04-03-2006, 06:17 PM
All you leftist, anti-American, third world country defending, touchy-feely, Kumbaya-singing people who defend the Mexican flag flying in America, can go buy yourselves a bag of prunes and chew them all night long. Get out of my country while you're at it, and go live in a paradise more to your liking, like North Korea, or Cuba, or Iran, or better yet, Hell. Do it now. You will not stand a chance when the shit hits the fan. Real Americans have their eyes on you.

Truth_Hunter
04-03-2006, 11:17 PM
This will be interesting. Will the liberalosers who screech that burning an American flag is free speech also defend burning a wetback flag on that basis?

I predict all 6 will be disciplined equally. 3 traitors, 3 guardians of the country... all 6 will be punished equally "to show no bias" or some such. Like you STATE RUN schools?

Truth_Hunter
04-03-2006, 11:22 PM
Excellent point !! We are talking sovereignty here ... not some inappropriate banner being run up the flag pole ... One needs to read and understand the thoughts of the Mexican agitators in this country ... they think the SW US is PART of Mexico ... this is a declaration of war on their part as far as I see it ...

As far as burning flags ...

shouldn't the "guest workers" be burning Mexican flags to protest the idiots in power of Mexico , the ones trashing the wealth of the country ... the ones making things so bad in Mexico , the "guest workers" must leave their homes and families just to find work (isn't that the sob story all of the pro-guest workers keep touting ?? )

Mexicans should be burning Mexican flags in protest ... unless this is a declaration of war on the US on their part , then we need to deal with the invaders properly ...


EXACTLY!

SEE HOW THIS WORKS?!

The SOCIALIST government of Mexico M-A-N-U-F-A-C-T-U-R-E-S the very social ills...

that it then...

touts as "justification" and "pretext" for the "hapless illegals" to flood into the US!

The SOCIALIST COMMUNIST government of Mexico -- soon to be run by the reformulated COMMIE REDS under Ostrado, starting THIS YEAR -- are CREATING the very ills they then tout in the yellow media as justification for illegals busting our borders!

Create a problem... (poverty in Mexico)
Provide a solution... (Flood into AMERICA)

This HAS to stop being hard or America = KIA

Timberwolf
04-04-2006, 12:01 AM
By what objective criteria would you differentiate between:

innocent stupidity
cunning treason (aiding and abetting a foreign power, Mexico)I assert that this is a critical argument to make, clearly and cogently. I have been saying this for years.
Ignorance is no excuse...therefore, WHY differentiate? Stupidity has gotten more people killed than cunning treason. You don't wanna die? EDUCATE yourself because actions bring rewards AND consequences.

We have been endowed with great power(s) by our Founders. With those great powers comes even greater RESPONSIBILITY to use them properly. If one isn't going to take the time to ensure s/he is acting in accordance with the laws of this country, the ills that befall him are ON him...not us.