Democrats Will Appeal Ruling on Indiana's Voter ID Law

[DoctorDoom]

(CNSNews.com) - A federal court has upheld an Indiana law requiring people to show a government-issued photo ID before voting, much to the disappointment of the Democratic Party, which says many of its constituents -- minorities, the poor, the elderly and the disabled -- will be adversely affected.

"Indiana's voter ID law, widely regarded as one of the most restrictive in America, creates unfair obstacles that will prevent citizens who are lawfully eligible to vote from casting their ballots," said DNC Chairman Howard Dean in a statement issued on Monday.

"I applaud the Indiana Democratic Party's decision to appeal this ruling," Dean said. "As part of our Party's commitment to doing whatever we can to ensure that all Americans have the opportunity to participate in our democracy, the DNC will assist the Indiana Democratic Party's legal challenge to this unfair law and continue our fight to make it easier for all Americans to exercise their right to vote."Democrats Will Appeal Ruling on Indiana's Voter ID Law (http://www.cnsnews.com/ViewPrint.asp?Page=/Politics/archive/200604/POL20060418b.html)

Freely translated: "How DARE Indiana deprive us of our constitutional right to commit rampant voter fraud!"

The RATS just get curiouser and curiouser.

[Rhino]

......the plaintiffs, including the Indiana Democratic Party and the American Civil Liberties Union of Indiana, had produced "not a single piece of evidence" that the law would prevent registered voters from casting ballots.So, what's the problem?

[S-T]

My letter, from today's Indianapolis Star:

http://www.indystar.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060418/OPINION01/604180357/1031

Stop complaining about voter ID law

It is good news that the Indiana Democratic Party and the American Civil Liberties Union of Indiana have been rebuked by a U.S. district court in their attempt to have the photo ID law declared unconstitutional.

The complaint by Democrats and the ACLU that the requirement for a photo ID represents a "poll tax" is false, because the law makes provision for those who cannot afford the cost of a photo ID to get one for no cost. I hope the Democrats and the ACLU decide to drop their objection and not obstruct the electoral process with more lawsuits. It does not look good for Democrats when they oppose an anti-fraud measure on the grounds that it would cost them votes.

Scott Tibbs
Bloomington

[The_Sonarman]

"Indiana's voter ID law, widely regarded as one of the most restrictive in America, creates unfair obstacles that will prevent citizens who are lawfully eligible to vote from casting their ballots," said DNC Chairman Howard Dean in a statement issued on Monday.

No Howie, it prevents illegal immigrants from voting. But, you already know that.

[Maggie_T]

That's why he's complaining, Sonarman. We all know that the democrat constituency is formed mainly by criminals, illegals (but I repeat myself), and dead people.

[S-T]

From my blog:

Onions to the Herald-Times (http://www.conservatibbs.com/2006/03/onions.html)

The "onion" for the state voter ID program was unfortunate. The editorial page of the Herald-Times leads off with the statement that "the policy of this newspaper is to strive for accuracy." If accuracy is important in a newspaper, how much more important is accuracy in elections? After all, elections determine who will be representing us in government and setting public policy. It is vital that those elections not be decided by fraud.

This is why the state legislature passed the voter ID law to begin with. Voter turnout, even during the hotly contested 2004 election, is embarrassingly law in this country. If people think their vote does not matter because elections are decided illegally, fewer people will turn out. The foundation of our constitutional republic is the rule of law, and elections must be carried our in a lawful manner.

Zaltsberg's whining about how the legislature "made it more difficult to vote" ignores the voters who already have photo ID's with them all the time anyway. You cannot legally drive unless you have your driver's license with you, so people who drive to the polls will theoretically have a photo ID with them. Photo ID cards will be provided free of charge to those who need them, and the Bureau of Motor Vehicles will be open on election day for procrastinators. Zaltsberg's "onion" would be more truthful if he said the legislature made it marginally more difficult to vote. The policy of the Herald-Times is to "strive for accuracy", right?

Few places in the state need the photo ID requirement more than Bloomington, Indiana. We have a very transient population here, with students moving around the city as well as moving to and from Bloomington. This reality makes voter fraud much easier here than it would be someplace like Martinsville or Bedford. For the editor of county's main newspaper to ignore the unique potential for fraud in Monroe County does not reflect well on him or the Herald-Times.

Finally, it is not too much to ask to ask people to take responsibility for their civic right to vote. I have to show a photo ID when I rent a movie or cash my paycheck, so why shouldn't I be required to show a photo ID when I vote to decide who will represent me in federal, state, or local government? Rights come with responsibilities, and the right to vote is no different.

[dPrasse]

just wait until W gives DL's to all of our "guest workers" ... they all register under motor-voter ( Big big scam in and of itself , as far as I am concerned ..)

[BarkleUSA]

I think there should be Federal standards for voting:

The American Voter Fraud Protection Act


1. Prospective voter must demonstrate command of the English language through oral and written testing.

2. Prospective voter must demonstrate some knowledge of American History and our founding documents.

3. Prospective voter must demonstrate that they are legal US citizens by providing birth certificate and three government issued photo ids.

4. Prospective voter must submit to a background check to prove that they have never been convicted of a crime.

5. Prospective voter must provide proof that they have not received any public assistance in the past five years and that they are paying their taxes.

6. Prospective voter must provide biometric verification of their identity including DNA and iris scan.

7. Anyone found committing voter fraud shall pay fines up to 25,000, forfeit their right to vote in future elections and serve a mandatory seven (7) year term in a federal prison.

8. In order to make it easy for all Americans to register, voter registration will be made available at all gun and hunting shops, Churches and NASCAR events.

[Rink]

My critique of your proposal...

I think there should be Federal standards for voting:

The American Voter Fraud Protection Act


1. Prospective voter must demonstrate command of the English language through oral and written testing.



Illegals already know enough english skills to be able to take jobs from American people.

How do you propose to pay for this testing and what will you use to implement this test nationwide?




2. Prospective voter must demonstrate some knowledge of American History and our founding documents.


What does this have to do with voting for the candidate of the day? And how is this going to prevent voter fraud?




3. Prospective voter must demonstrate that they are legal US citizens by providing birth certificate and three government issued photo ids.


I have a drivers licence Soc Sec# a Birth cert as well as a Passport, what about people who cant get these three govt issued photo ID? Yet they have a legal drivers licence, as well as soc sec# as well as a birth cert?

Even illegals have all of these I cited by hook or crook.




4. Prospective voter must submit to a background check to prove that they have never been convicted of a crime.


Background checks take time, so how do you propose to have thousands upon thousands of people take background checks when they still do not have instand background checks.

And who will pay to put in a massive computer system to enable instant background checks?




5. Prospective voter must provide proof that they have not received any public assistance in the past five years and that they are paying their taxes.


What does public assistance have to do with again voting for a candidate in office? What if the person who is receiving Public assistance is handicapped? or injured?

Are you proposing to suspend their Constitutional rights just because they were born with disabilities or were injured just because they receive Public assistance? When they can prove they are American citizens.




6. Prospective voter must provide biometric verification of their identity including DNA and iris scan.


Again how do you propose to fund, and implement a systemn that has yet to be implemented?

This what you are proposing is unfeaseable and too costly and cannot hope to be implemented nationwide with the fact that we do not have an infrastructure available to even work such an idea to begin with.




7. Anyone found committing voter fraud shall pay fines up to 25,000, forfeit their right to vote in future elections and serve a mandatory seven (7) year term in a federal prison.


One thing, how will you Prove they even committed voter fraud? when you have unknown people stuffing ballots and gathering names dates and people from the dead?

How will you find them? By some secret special unknown tracking system?




8. In order to make it easy for all Americans to register, voter registration will be made available at all gun and hunting shops, Churches and NASCAR events.


One thing, they ALREADY have an 'easy' voter registration at this time, its called motor-votor registration which is a farce.

So how is this going to be any better?

[The_Elucidator]

Illegals already know enough english skills to be able to take jobs from American people.

I respectfully disagree there my dear lady! Down here in the south of Texaco, they don't have to speak a word of english to take an Americans Job. As long as they meet the criteria of having the Spanish side of bi-lingual down pat they can get any job they want. Walk into any Wal-Mart or better yet any "Mom and Pop" store and try to find a Mexican that has "command" of the english language, or spell english, or know at least 5 english words.

Back to the subject at hand. Being a native Hoosier before joining the AF I lived near the once aptly named "murder capital of the world," Gary Indiana. Voter fraud was the rule and not the exception over in the Gary, Hammond, East Chicago area.

[Native American]

So, what's the problem?

The problem is, valid voter ID prevents the Democrat Party from stuffing the ballot box using the illegal votes of criminal aliens, convicted felons, unregistered voters, and dead persons, plus it makes it harder for the Democrat Party to have the same person vote multiple times.

But at least the Democrats can still rely on busing people who can't even read English to the polls and telling "remember to vote for so-and-so, amigo!" as they clamber off of the bus and into the polling place.

[uncommon1]

I see no problem with voter ID cards. Besides, you have two years between general elections to get the card. It won't hurt anyone who truly wants to vote.

[Rink]

I respectfully disagree there my dear lady! Down here in the south of Texaco, they don't have to speak a word of english to take an Americans Job. As long as they meet the criteria of having the Spanish side of bi-lingual down pat they can get any job they want. Walk into any Wal-Mart or better yet any "Mom and Pop" store and try to find a Mexican that has "command" of the english language, or spell english, or know at least 5 english words.

Back to the subject at hand. Being a native Hoosier before joining the AF I lived near the once aptly named "murder capital of the world," Gary Indiana. Voter fraud was the rule and not the exception over in the Gary, Hammond, East Chicago area.

Its funny that they know enough to know how to get into and pick up every social welfare and aid program they can get their hands on and wring em dry but good.

[The_Elucidator]

Its funny that they know enough to know how to get into and pick up every social welfare and aid program they can get their hands on and wring em dry but good.

Kind of like Salmon swimming up stream to spawn.