AZ Prosecutor to Charge Man with burning the flag--of Mexico!

[Dowple]

So says the rumor mill at americanpatrol.com


Local legal sources reveal that Pima County Prosecutor Barbara LaWall, responding to pressure from open border activists and a complaint lodged by the Mexican Consulate, has quietly impaneled a secret grand jury to indict Roy Warden for burning the Mexican Flag.
Flag burning, the burning of venerated symbols, is prohibited by Arizona statutes; however the US Supreme Court has consistently ruled otherwise.
"It all comes down to precise wording and legal terminology", says Warden. "In Arizona only American flags and the flag of Arizona are classified as venerated symbols."
"Mexican flags are not venerated here. They're just trash."
The Mexican government believes otherwise. "We consider any provocation or vandalism of national symbols to be unacceptable", said Foreign Relations Undersecretary Lourdes Aranda. Warden says he will seek a clarification of Mexico's official policy from Tucson Mexican Counsel, Juan Manuel Calderon Jaimez, who has made no public statement to date.
"I will tell Mr. Jaimez I'm going to burn a whole lot more Mexican flags on May 5, whether he likes it or not. And these burnings will take place on public property in the face of the largest groups of Cinco de Mayo celebrants", said Warden.
"I'm going to make Mexican Flag burning the new National Pastime."
As for the indictment, Warden says: "Make sure you include a ham sandwich as one of the counts, Barbara. Because I'm hungry. When this thing comes to court I will eat you alive."
Roy Warden


http://www.americanpatrol.com/MISCNEWS/2006-UP/AZ/AWarden-Roy-060418AZ_.html

[Rhino]

That would be pretty stupid of Pima County.

[Pennville_Bill]

Be interesting to see if they can find a jury that will convict Mr. Warden...... IMHO the prosecutor is comitting political suicide, but that's just my http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v481/Pennville_Bill/Other%20Stuff/Smilies/smiley2cents.gif

[Telit laikitiz]

Be interesting to see if they can find a jury that will convict Mr. Warden...... IMHO the prosecutor is comitting political suicide, but that's just my http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v481/Pennville_Bill/Other%20Stuff/Smilies/smiley2cents.gif

What about the constitution? The supreme court would love this case. And yeah, which side will you stand on? Its a no brainer. It is quite obvious what will happen here.

[BarkleUSA]

RE:

Be interesting to see if they can find a jury that will convict Mr. Warden...

On the other hand, Arizona is McCain country so nothing is at it seems.


http://www.gabbyattic.com/truepix/mexicans.jpg
Pima County - Jurors impaneled to hear Mexican flag burning case.

[Borgia]

Did you guys know that "gullible" is not in the dictionary? :)

[DoctorDoom]

Maybe not in the kindergarten dictionary that liberal publik skewl grajewits use.

[Borgia]

Maybe not in the kindergarten dictionary that liberal publik skewl grajewits use.

Sorry my point slipped by you. I googled this news story and the only thing I could find was mentions of it by posters to a couple newsgroups.

This leads me to believe that it is an urban legend and just untrue. Of course I could be wrong but I have seen no evidence of this anywhere other than as "rumor".

Now, if you want to go ahead and get all frothy about a "news story" that may not be true, go right ahead. I know how you folks prefer to make stories up about liberals and get all excited about the eeevils of those liberals that you made stories up about.

[Dowple]

Sorry my point slipped by you. I googled this news story and the only thing I could find was mentions of it by posters to a couple newsgroups.

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Then you didn't click on the link originally provided, did you?

[Borgia]

Blocked link for me.

[Dowple]

Blocked link for me.

You must be logging on inside the offices of the ACLU.

[Kathy29]

I hope it's not true although the mexican government has been having conniptions over it.

If it is true and they are going to prosecute this man, he'll be turned into the Rosa Parks of our time and mexican flag burnings will spread across the country.

I'd like to attend one, I'll bring the flag.

[DoctorDoom]

You must be logging on inside the offices of the ACLU.Hah, his mommy has the Net Nanny controls set to block non-liberal sites.

[Lazarus]

http://www.gabbyattic.com/truepix/mexicans.jpg
Pima County - Jurors impaneled to hear Mexican flag burning case.
:thumb: Perfect, Brother Bark...

Maybe not in the kindergarten dictionary that liberal publik skewl grajewits use.Bwahahahaha...:evilgrin:

You must be logging on inside the offices of the ACLU.:biglaugh:Awwww Yall gotta quit, now... I cant catch my breath..!!!!

[DoctorDoom]

Google "Pima County Prosecutor Barbara LaWall" (w/o quotes). She is not loved in AZ. Believing the story is quite reasonable.

[DoctorDoom]

OTOH, since all stories have two sides ...

A Tucson man was arrested Tuesday for his role in the burning of a Mexican flag as part of a counterprotest at a pro-immigration rally.

At about 4:30 p.m. Tuesday, Tucson police cited Roy Warden, 58, on suspicion of assault, criminal damage and reckless burning, and then released him, according to Sgt. Decio Hopffer.

Video footage shot Monday by police and the media showed Warden assaulting a TV cameraman and a photographer, Hopffer said. Because only one of the men pressed charges, there is only one assault charge.City man arrested after Mexican-flag burning (http://www.azstarnet.com/allheadlines/124317.php)

[Borgia]

Google "Pima County Prosecutor Barbara LaWall" (w/o quotes). She is not loved in AZ. Believing the story is quite reasonable.

Oh, I saw she exists, just no mention of this flag-burning.

But don't let any skepticism get in the way of a good rant.

[Lazarus]

Google "Pima County Prosecutor Barbara LaWall" (w/o quotes). She is not loved in AZ. Believing the story is quite reasonable.I did... And found this...

http://tianews.com/tianews/breaking/08-04-05/PIMAPROSECUTORSSNITCHCOLLEAGUEASVIGALANTE.html


PIMA COUNTY PROSECUTORS “SNITCH-OUT” COLLEAGUE AS BORDER VIGALANTE<O:p</O:p

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July 22, 2005
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A growing number of Pima County Prosecutors reveal their frustration with the overt intertwining of the prosecutorial functions of their office and the “politics first” attitude of Barbara LaWall, including allowing one prosecutor to assist in the smuggling of illegal aliens while on paid county time.
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Mary Margaret Cowan, recently identified in the local press as a lawyer for “No Mas Muertes” activists Daniel Strauss and Shanti Sellz, arrested two weeks ago and charged with assisting illegal entry, is currently employed by the Pima County Attorney’s Office and paid by Pima County to enforce immigration violations.
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“Imagine the public outrage if one of us was a weekend Minutemen”, said one disgruntled criminal prosecutor. “Margo openly protects and encourages law-breakers at the same time she draws a salary to prosecute them.”
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“The Merit Commission testimony proved LaWall calculated the political implications of her conflict of interest in the Stidham murder before upholding the law, resulting in the discharge of 4 good people who objected,” said another insider. “This immigration case is another example of her ‘politics first’ attitude.”

Man, she's a real beauty... Just goes to show you that Leftist Activists will work hard to weasel their way into anywhere public policy is directed...

[DoctorDoom]

But don't let any skepticism get in the way of a good rant.Never happen. I'd have to be a liberal to do that, and I'd infinitely rather drive white-hot needles into my eyeballs than be a liberal.

[Borgia]

I did... And found this...

http://tianews.com/tianews/breaking/08-04-05/PIMAPROSECUTORSSNITCHCOLLEAGUEASVIGALANTE.html



Man, she's a real beauty... Just goes to show you that Leftist Activists will work hard to weasel their way into anywhere public policy is directed...

And yet, no mention of the Mexican flag event. So we still have only message board posts to go by.

[Borgia]

But don't let any skepticism get in the way of a good rant.

Never happen. I'd have to be a liberal to do that, and I'd infinitely rather drive white-hot needles into my eyeballs than be a liberal.

Yes, I know skepticism is anathema to the conservative who prefers to make up stories about eeevil liberals. Truth is just something that gets in your way, isn't it?

[Lazarus]

But we always have you to entertain us with your liberal buck and wing... And that makes all the difference...

[Borgia]

But we always have you to entertain us with your liberal buck and wing... And that makes all the difference...

Glad I am here to witness how conservatives debate. They make up stories and then point to those made up stories as "evidence" of liberal wrong-doing. Well done. Well done.

You know, I am not even saying the story is untrue, just using a healthy amount of skepticism about a story that I cannot find anywhere. You would think you folks who allegedly value truth would want to corroborate the "rumor" but it seems you prefer the fiction to the reality.

[DoctorDoom]

And yet, no mention of the Mexican flag event.From my linked page:

A Tucson man was arrested Tuesday for his role in the burning of a Mexican flag as part of a counterprotest at a pro-immigration rally.It was a grievous mistake to provide Internet connections for grammar-school puters.

[Lazarus]

Ya know, Borgia, like you I didnt find any other corroboration for the original story of this thread... But I did find a great number of stories indicating the incredible corruption of this Leftist Activist prosecutor... I posted one that I thought was particularly representative of her apparent career achievements... I hope you find its veracity adequate... You're approval does mean so much to me...

[DoctorDoom]

Title: MEXICAN FLAG BURNER APPEALS TO ACLU: "PLEASE PROTECT ME"
Source: Roy Warden
URL Source: http://NA
Published: Apr 15, 2006
Author: Roy Warden- CS II Press, Publisher
Post Date: 2006-04-16 17:36:33 by blackhorse
Ping List: *Illegal Aliens-Action Alert*
22 Comments

From: "Roy Warden" Subject: MEXICAN FLAG BURNER APPEALS TO ACLU: "PLEASE PROTECT ME!" Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2006

Mexican Flag Burner’s Impassioned Plea: “ACLU, Please Protect Me!

Roy Warden, CS II PRESS Publisher, Tucson AZ 4/15/06

Facing serious criminal charges for burning the Mexican Flag, Tucson based civil rights activist and border protector, Roy Warden, today issued an impassioned plea to the ACLU: “Please protect me!”

“Americans know the ACLU has always promoted themselves as champions of liberty and defenders of our rights”, said Roy Warden. “The ACLU supports the burning of American Flags as protected speech under the First Amendment. Now I await their offer to defend me for burning the Mexican flag.”MEXICAN FLAG BURNER APPEALS TO ACLU: "PLEASE PROTECT ME" (http://www.libertypost.org/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=137386)

Lotsa luck, Roy. The Without-A-CLU only defends burning American flags.

[Borgia]

MEXICAN FLAG BURNER APPEALS TO ACLU: "PLEASE PROTECT ME" (http://www.libertypost.org/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=137386)

Lotsa luck, Roy. The Without-A-CLU only defends burning American flags.

Sorry, LibertPost.org appears to be a talk group more than a news source. They also source the story to a name but fail to provide the URL where they got it from or any other sourcing.

I googled the Roy WArden name with Tucson and flag and got nothing resembling the rumor posted her except other talkl cites liek fre republic talking about it.

So where is the original news story?

[Borgia]

Ya know, Borgia, like you I didnt find any other corroboration for the original story of this thread... But I did find a great number of stories indicating the incredible corruption of this Leftist Activist prosecutor... I posted one that I thought was particularly representative of her apparent career achievements... I hope you find its veracity adequate... You're approval does mean so much to me...

Hey, she may be a total idiot for all I know. All I am saying is that if you want to make a case, post ACTUAL stories about her instead of posting "rumors". If she is a corrupt prosecutoir, post the stories instead of the rumors. When you post rumors, it only makes the actual stories appear weaker.

Again, stick to the truth and it will come out. When you start posting unsourced rumors, all you are doing is muddying the waters.

[DoctorDoom]

<table align=center><tr><td><img src="http://static.flickr.com/53/127673082_72c2d9896c.jpg?v=0" border="0"><br><font face=arial size=1>
Russ Dove, right, a member of the Tucson-based Border Guardians, holds a burning Mexican flag, while<br>fellow member Laine Lawless, center, looks on, during a counter-protest to an immigration-rights rally,<br>Monday, April 10, 2006, at Amory Park in Tucson, Ariz. Roy Warden is on the left, with his arm raised.</font></td></tr></table>

<table align=center><tr><td><br><img src="http://static.flickr.com/53/127611733_0943007783.jpg?v=0" /> <img src="http://static.flickr.com/55/127611735_d80e4f418f.jpg?v=0" /><br><br><font face=arial size=1>On left, Mexicans burn US flag in front of a veterans cemetery. On right, Mexicans burn US flag in front<br>of US Embassy in Mexico City.</font></td></tr></table>

Arizona Man Arrested For Burning Mexican Flag (http://www.sweetness-light.com/archive/arizona-man-arrested-for-burning-mexican-flag/)

Of the three groups of flag burners, which one was subjected to legal action?

[Telit laikitiz]

Did you guys know that "gullible" is not in the dictionary? :)

There are a lot things that aren't in the dictionary, what's your point?

[HomeschoolrsRUs]

City man arrested after Mexican-flag burning | www.azstarnet.com ® (http://www.azstarnet.com/allheadlines/124317.php)


Wouldn't this be a local newspaper, not an internet blog?

[DoctorDoom]

Sorry, LibertPost.org appears to be a talk group more than a news source. They also source the story to a name but fail to provide the URL where they got it from or any other sourcing.They got it from Roy Warden, obviously.

I googled the Roy WArden name with Tucson and flag and got nothing resembling the rumor posted her except other talkl cites liek fre republic talking about it.

So where is the original news story?Do you seriously think that the MSM will say something uncomplimentary about a liberal?

BTW, proofread before posting.

[Borgia]

Of the three groups of flag burners, which one was subjected to legal action?

I take it you did not bother reading teh article you cited.


Tucson police cited Roy Warden, 58, on suspicion of assault, criminal damage and reckless burning, and then released him, according to Sgt. Decio Hopffer.
Video footage shot Monday by police and the media showed Warden assaulting a TV cameraman and a photographer, Hopffer said. Because only one of the men pressed charges, there is only one assault charge.
Warden faces the criminal-damage charge for harm done to the concrete shuffleboard court where Warden’s group was burning the Mexican flag, Hopffer said.

Roy was the one who burned the flag. He was arrested for actions other than burning the flag. Of course he will try and hide behind his first amendment rights and hope that nobody notices his assault and damage to property.

So Doom, do you ever read past the headline?

[DoctorDoom]

I take it you did not bother reading teh article you cited.I did, asswipe. Hence ...

OTOH, since all stories have two sides ...I take it that your Remedial Reading courses have been ineffective.

So Doom, do you ever read past the headline?So, troll, do you ever read anything, or are you having a difficult time seeing your monitor through the wall of your colon?

[Borgia]

I did, asswipe. Hence ...

I take it that your Remedial Reading courses have been ineffective.

So, troll, do you ever read anything, or are you having a difficult time seeing your monitor through the wall of your colon?

Well, you evinced no knowledge of why Roy Warden was arrested. IT was clear he was NOT arrested for burning the American flag, but for;

1. Assaulting a TV Cameraman and photographer.
2. Doing damage to a concrete shuffleboard

I did not see any charges about burning a Mexican flag.

You listed three groups of flag burners and then asked which group was arrested. You FAILED to mention that they were three different incidences and only in ONE of them did someone assault someone else and do criminal damage to property. Somehow I would think that would be relevent in questioning why someone was arrested but you would rather have the reader think that Roy was arrested for merely burning a Mexican flag. The deliberate withholding of highly relevent information is another term for propaganda.

[DoctorDoom]

I withheld nothing, liberaloser. I provided the link to the article with the information that you are claiming I am trying to conceal. Let me ask this: would he and his fellow Mexicriminal flag burners have been harassed had they instead burned an American flag? In one word, NO.

Do you do anything all day other than post your banal bullshit here? (BTW, I am retired, so I have free time 24/7. Are you?)