"Casino Royale"

[Trevelyan]

The teaser trailer for "Casino Royale" is now available.

http://www.sonypictures.com/movies/casinoroyale/index.html

[HomeschoolrsRUs]

I'm not excited about this movie in the least. I don't agree with their choice for Bond, and he sure proved with his big mouth that he doesn't deserve the part either, imo. IF I watch it at all, it will be when it comes out on video. My son has the collection of Bod movies, don't know if he'll be wanting to add this one to it or not -- if he does, he'll be paying for it, I certainly won't be.

[Trevelyan]

I personally wanted Clive Owen, but I'll just have to see how Craig does for myself.

[BEST45CAL]

That title (Casino Royale) reminds me of the name of an Oldsmobile station wagon from the 1980s.

Blond Bond will be as memorable as that one Bond who got married but his wife gets whacked.

I was hoping that they would pick that dude (from nip/tuck) Julian McMahon.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/4/44/Julian_McMahon_02.jpg

[Suzie]

I happen to enjoy blue eyed blonds. One in particular on a regular basis. :D But I will wait to see the movie before I pick on this guys Bondworthyness. I do think he's purdy with those big blue peepers though. I guess I just have a "different" taste in men than most judging from what everyone else seems to think of him.

[HomeschoolrsRUs]

Perhaps it is a bias of mine from the years of brunette Bonds, but Bond is not blonde, http://www.freeconservatives.com/vb/images/icons/biggrin.gif , imho.

To be honest and fair, however, since Pierce Brosnan, there really hasn't been a "stand out" actor that seemed tailor made for the job. Perhaps we'll have to wait a few more years before another Bond-looking double-oh-seven comes along, :smirky:

[Suzie]

Well Pierce did have the blue eyes too. :)

[Trevelyan]

Blond Bond will be as memorable as that one Bond who got married but his wife gets whacked.


That would be George Lazenby from "On Her Majesty's Secret Service." I found that one to be among one of the best Bond films.

[DoctorDoom]

The only original Bond that I don't have is Casino Royale (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0061452/). A spoof doesn't belong amongst the real Bonds (and any film with Woody Allen is a no-no IAC).

I'll reserve judgment on the new one until I've seen it.

[Trevelyan]

The only original Bond that I don't have is Casino Royale (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0061452/). A spoof doesn't belong amongst the real Bonds (and any film with Woody Allen is a no-no IAC).

I'll reserve judgment on the new one until I've seen it.

I have all of them as well, sans "Casino Royale," but I also do not have "Never Say Never Again." Do you have that one?

[Suzie]

His hair is really more of an ash tone or sandy color. Reminds me of someone else I know, but his is becoming more grey. The blue eyes are exactly like my hubby has. No wonder I like this guy. :lol:
http://commanderbond.net/resources/sections/news/images/bond_guys/craig_best.jpg

http://pub.tv2.no/multimedia/na/archive/00215/daniel_craig__james_215681g.jpg

[DoctorDoom]

I have all of them as well, sans "Casino Royale," but I also do not have "Never Say Never Again." Do you have that one?Yep. It's not bad, but it's a shameless remake of Thunderball, the only Bond script for which the producers owned the rights. And Sean, God bless him, was really too old to play Bond again.

[DoctorDoom]

Judging by the pics, he might make a credible Bond. Wait and see.

[Suzie]

I didn't find Roger Moore attractive at all, he never seemed like Bond to me. His hair was lighter than most of the other Bonds too. I agree, you have to see them in action to see if you buy it from the current 007 player no matter who it is. Some will some wont I am sure.

[Trevelyan]

I didn't find Roger Moore attractive at all, he never seemed like Bond to me. His hair was lighter than most of the other Bonds too. I agree, you have to see them in action to see if you buy it from the current 007 player no matter who it is. Some will some wont I am sure.

Moore was actually supposed to be the original Bond, but he could not get out of his contractual obligations to the television show he was on at the time. Was it "The Saint?" Anyway, that led the way for Connery.

Anyway, hah, Moore is beyond old in that photo. They should not have stretched him out as long as they did.

[Suzie]

"Old" isn't a problem for me. :lol: I usually prefer the men with lines on their face and grey hair to the smooth faced pretty boys. Men should be rough IMO. :D As for Moore, old or young he just didn't do it for me. And I do think there is a difference between physically attractive and sexy, to me he was neither. :huh:

[DoctorDoom]

At least that piece he's holding is a tad more manly than the damned Walther PPK.

[Suzie]

'Brilliant' Bond seduces critics

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Choosing Daniel Craig as the new James Bond upset some fans
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</td> </tr> </tbody></table> <!-- E IBOX --> <!-- S SF --> Daniel Craig's performance as James Bond has been hailed as "terrific" and "simply brilliant" in early reviews of his 007 debut in Casino Royale. The first verdicts on Craig - who was a controversial choice to play the spy - have been gushing.
The Daily Mirror said he was seen "oozing the kind of edgy menace that recalls Sean Connery at his best".
And the Daily Telegraph wrote that he "steps with full assuredness into Sean Connery's old handmade shoes". <!-- E SF -->
Connery, who appeared in seven Bond films, was recently voted the best 007 of all time.
MORE HERE (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/6116286.stm?ls)

Sean Connery with big blue eyes certainly would do it for me.

[UnkHiram]

I have all the Bond movies, including the original Casino Royale with David Niven as Bond and the TV Movie (The first Bond Movie) made in 1954. It was also Casino Royale with Barry Nelson doing a really terrible job as "Jimmy" Bond.

[Bluemoon_Rising]

Based on everything I've read so far I think this guy's going to be okay, after all.

I think Hugh Jackman would make a good Bond.

[DoctorDoom]

I think Hugh Jackman would make a good Bond.I'd sort of expect metal claws to pop through his skin when he's pissed.

[Apollo5600]

Well, I wasn't sure about him before, but it looks like this Bond will be acceptable. We'll see when the movie comes out. I haven't actually been to the theaters for maybe a year... But this one has me interested enough to go.

Oh no wait, I did see a movie this year, but it was a silly kids movie with my brother and his kids. That doesn't count!

[Suzie]

I have only seen kids movies for years but I want to see this one.

[EveningStar]

That would be George Lazenby from "On Her Majesty's Secret Service." I found that one to be among one of the best Bond films.
I agree that it was one of the best. So do many others. Lazenby did just fine as Bond.

[EveningStar]

I just watched both the trailer and the teaser. I also looked at the IMDb (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0381061/) page. I think it's PC bullshit to have a female M and a black Felix Leiter but the film certainly looks like it might be good.

[Suzie]

The Female M has been there since Brosnan.

[EveningStar]

The Female M has been there since Brosnan.
The British are even more PC than we are.

[HomeschoolrsRUs]

I will probably see this, eventually, but I am not rushing out to the theater (like I did with all of Brosnan's Bond flicks). I'll wait til it comes on video, and then tag along on my son's coat tails and let him rent it so I can watch it with him, but not spend any of my hard earned dollars.

Consider me one of the "disgruntled" Bond fans. I was totally disappointed they went with this guy. I will allow for the infinitesimal possibility that he's not as bad as I expect he'll be (hence the admission that I probably will see the movie), however I can't help but keep in the back of my mind that they had agreed to let Brosnan complete his contract and do his last Bond flick (which would have been Casino Royale) then snatched it away from him, and the fact that this new guy doesn't seem to personally represent a "Bond-man".

New Bond Hates Guns - FreeConservatives (http://www.freeconservatives.com/vb/showthread.php?t=28804&highlight=James+Bond)

[Trevelyan]

So, what are your favorites? (All of you, not meant as a reply to Homes)

Personally, my favorite film was "Goldeneye" (of course :)), and my favorite Bond was Brosnan.

[HomeschoolrsRUs]

(All of you, not meant as a reply to Homes)

Fine. I'm not talking to you either, :smirky: .

Personally, my favorite film was "Goldeneye" (of course :)), and my favorite Bond was Brosnan.

Goldfinger

[Suzie]

Consider me one of the "disgruntled" Bond fans. I was totally disappointed they went with this guy. I will allow for the infinitesimal possibility that he's not as bad as I expect he'll be (hence the admission that I probably will see the movie), however I can't help but keep in the back of my mind that they had agreed to let Brosnan complete his contract and do his last Bond flick (which would have been Casino Royale) then snatched it away from him, and the fact that this new guy doesn't seem to personally represent a "Bond-man".

New Bond Hates Guns - FreeConservatives (http://www.freeconservatives.com/vb/showthread.php?t=28804&highlight=James+Bond)


If you use that as your gauge neither does Sean Connery. And Brosnan is a rabid green peace tree hugger to the 100th power. As I said in the link you posted, I pay to see the movie, what they think in real life isn't important unless you decide to make it important to you. They aren't Americans, they really have nothing to do with our rights and I expect Euro's to hold that view. So I will say if he has his gun in the movie and uses it like he's supposed to that's all he really needs to do.

The NRA says stars like Sean Connery, Lauren Bacall, Sting, Jack Nicholson, Bruce Springsteen and Catherine Zeta-Jones have all "lent their names and notoriety to anti-gun causes, speaking out for anti-gun legislation and providing a voice for anti-gun organisations".
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/3238513.stm

[HomeschoolrsRUs]

I've said my piece, shared my opinion, and stated what I plan to do, I'm not going to argue with you Suzie.

[Suzie]

Who's arguing? I just pointed out all Bonds hold a typical British view. The "Bond type" is what's on the screen ... not off it.

[Bluemoon_Rising]

I'd sort of expect metal claws to pop through his skin when he's pissed.

:rotflmbo:

[Bluemoon_Rising]

Goldfinger. My favorite Bonds are O'Connery and Bronson. Both did a fine job.

[Bluemoon_Rising]

Bond is back, and this Bond is the best ever!

We've got the real Bond of Ian Fleming -- emotional, ruthless, a rogue, a bit of a thug and human. This guy's no pretty boy. He's a man's man, with a moral core that's solid without being sentimental. Political correctness is nowhere to be seen.

See it!

[Wyatt_Junker]

I take it he doesn't use rubbers.

[Trevelyan]

I'm seeing it tomorrow. :)

[DeclinetoState]

We've got the real Bond of Ian Fleming -- emotional, ruthless, a rouge, a bit of a thug and human. "A rouge"? Isn't that a bit, uh, metrosexual?

[Eagle1]

havent seen it yet, will do so sometime next week. but a few friends saw it and said he was great in fight scenes. They also said he was a real softy, a pussy if you will.
bond's MO is do whatever it takes for queen and country, not fall in love, he did that once and it didnt work out too well. Bond should care about the girls life and save her and do his thing, but love should not be in the equation

[Air-Warrior]

Go see it. Very entertaining...possibly best Bond to date.

Even the CG intro to the movie was jaw-dropping. The customary fleetfoot chase scene near the beginning is staggering enough to make Jackie Chan do a double-take.

Didn't take me long to adapt to the new (blonde) Bond. The hottie that he lands (the first one in the movie) is arguably the hottest Bond babe ever.

Scale of 1 to 10? 9.95

Also saw Borat this weekend. Walked out of the theater on that one.<SHRUG>

[Teenager]

I saw Borat. No need to ever see it again. :p

I really want to see the 007 in action, though.

[Bluemoon_Rising]

"A rouge"? Isn't that a bit, uh, metrosexual?

LOL! Ooops. Uh . . . that would be rogue.

[Bluemoon_Rising]

havent seen it yet, will do so sometime next week. but a few friends saw it and said he was great in fight scenes. They also said he was a real softy, a pussy if you will.
bond's MO is do whatever it takes for queen and country, not fall in love, he did that once and it didnt work out too well. Bond should care about the girls life and save her and do his thing, but love should not be in the equation

This is a prequel of sorts, howbeit set in 2006. It's not a continuation of the larger tradition. It's a new beginning. Bond earns his license to kill and then gets his first big assignment. He's no softy. He's simply raw, dangerous, emotionally careless and explosive. That's the point. He's going to learn detachment the hard way.

I like this Bond the best. He can be cold, utterly ruthless, yet soulful and vulnerable. He's a contradiction. He’s human. This is the initial Bond of Ian Fleming. This is the Bond of realism with less gadgetry and gimmicks. He can be suave, smooth . . . but at his core, he's a killer.

[Suzie]

And those eyes OHHHHH those eyes. :naughty:

[DeclinetoState]

I like the very end of Casino Royale, where he shoots Mr. White in the leg. Apparently this will be where the next Bond movie begins.

I wish they had kept the spots sequence from the very beginning, where Bond turns and fires his gun at the audience. At least they kept the pre-credit sequence.

[Trevelyan]

Well, I guess I will not get to see it today. :(

[Bluemoon_Rising]

I personally wanted Clive Owen, but I'll just have to see how Craig does for myself.

Folks, I'm telling you: this is the best Bond ever! He is easily the most physical, explosively dangerous and deadly. Craig is fantastic. He's better than O'Connery . . . or perhaps the film features the sort of Bond that O'Connery could have been as well had the franchise emphasized menace over sophistication, as Flemming always did, from the beginning.

Back in my twenties there was only one author of “frivolous” popular fiction that I indulged while concentrating on the occasional important work of fiction and Western culture’s essential works of non-fiction: Flemming.

I’ve enjoyed the Bond films over the years, but like Flemming, I have never been fully satisfied with the franchise’s take on Bond. Until now, O’Connery's Bond is the closest the franchise had ever come to capturing Flemming's, and Bronson did a decent job of reviving him. Actually, Dalton’s Bond was not all that far off. Each of these guys were close in different ways. (Moore’s Bond became a parody, almost a cartoon.)

Flemming’s Bond is the best, and that’s what the franchise finally delivers in Casino Royale.

The fact of the matter is that Eagle’s friends have got it all wrong. Flemming’s Bond has always been the most cruel and ruthless killer of all, but he wants to love, and there is a streak of tenderness and genuine passion in him . . . for the right woman. Flemming’s Bond is an old-world romantic who idolizes his one true love -- whomever this paragon of virtue might be. He essentially despises most all other women, the flesh and blood females of his world; they are merely objects of pleasure to be enjoyed and discarded. A woman of sweet vulnerability and fidelity is Bond’s ideal. While she is the only woman for whom he would unflinchingly sacrifice his life and hold above Queen and country, even she could never be his equal. Bond is an old-world patriarch.

As I said, Bronson did a good job, but his efforts were undermined by PC scripts which almost put the characters of his female co-stars on equal footing. Only a presumptuous, villainous female would dare to be his equal -- the sort of female he wouldn’t hesitate to use or kill without feeling. O’Connery’s Bond captures the prototype’s misogyny, but we never see a truly frustrated, vulnerable or impetuous Bond.

Flemming’s Bond makes mistakes and is subject to bursts of murderous rage. Sometimes he loses his cool. This is the Bond who after making a costly miscalculation, for example, tersely replies, "Do you really think I care!" when asked if he would like his martini shaken or stirred.

He shows his annoyance when his female cohort fails to do precisely as she was earlier instructed. That won't stand. At the appropriate time he presses his dominance. That she is not enamored with him is not the point. That he can accept, but one, especially a female, best not cross him at showtime.

This Bond is much more interesting, real and intense.

PC is out in this film. This is the bitter misogynist who unsentimentally -- more at instinctively -- believes that he has unexpectedly discovered the one.

I just hope the franchise doesn’t get all feminist, sentimental or cartoonish on us again. While Bond can be cordial to those women who are at least on the right side of Queen and country and suavely seductive toward all, there’s nothing chatty or truly casual about his regard for any. (Moore’s Bond, for example, was totally off the mark in this regard.) Flemming’s Bond is both cold and emotionally intense at the same time, even in moments of relative calm. A seemingly strange, yet conceivable mix. There’s nothing casual about Bond’s use of women. Not really. Pleasure, yes. Mission, yes, should it serve. But that’s all. Once they serve their purpose, he’s done with them. There’s nothing friendly about it. Flemming’s Bond merely enjoys women sexually or uses them to accomplish his mission; he doesn’t particularly like them, and certainly he doesn’t trust them.

In truth, Bond is a swan, a monogamous, old-world romantic, devoted to Queen and country for now. Should the woman of his dreams ever come along, he would leave the former and never again touch any other but his new love for as long as she lives.

That's what On Her Majesty's Secret Service was trying to convey; it just didn't quite get it right.

[DoctorDoom]

The trailer is here: Casino Royale (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=9078135433851233052)

[Un Con Troll Able]

Blonde...James Blonde.

Fave Bond flicks, that's easy: Thunderball, Dr. No, Goldfinger.

[Air-Warrior]

The only original Bond that I don't have is Casino Royale (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0061452/). A spoof doesn't belong amongst the real Bonds (and any film with Woody Allen is a no-no IAC).

I'll reserve judgment on the new one until I've seen it.
Spoof? That would describe a couple of the movies that Roger Moore did for the JB series.

I liked this one. It is arguably in the top 3 best Bond movies ever done though originally, I would have liked to have seen Jason Stetham in the starring role, especially for the fight scenes.
http://www.unreel.co.uk/reviews/t/The_Transporter/co6.jpg

[Air-Warrior]

Based on everything I've read so far I think this guy's going to be okay, after all.

I think Hugh Jackman would make a good Bond.
What would he do for a sophisticated English accent?

[Bluemoon_Rising]

What would he do for a sophisticated English accent?

I guess you haven't see Kate and Leopold. Jackman would merely speak in his own voice instead of the American accent he affects for his American roles. Jackman was born and raised in Australia of English parentage.

But that's all academic now anyway. Craig's the man! The best ever. Forget about Jackman, O'Connery or anyone else.

If this is the last Bond flick ever made, it's finally enough.

Best line in the movie: "That last hand almost killed me."

[Trevelyan]

I am happy to report as well that Craig made for an awesome Bond. :)

[Air-Warrior]

I guess you haven't see Kate and Leopold. Jackman would merely talk in his own voice instead of the American accent he affects for his American roles. Jackman was born and raised in Australia of English parentage.

But that's all academic now anyway. Craig's the man! The best ever. Forget about Jackman, O'Connery or anyone else.

If this is the last Bond flick ever made, it's finally enough.

Best line in the movie: "That last hand almost killed me."No, I didn't see Kate and Leopold. I had no idea.

He does the American accent rather well. BTW, I enjoyed your great critique a couple of posts back. :claps:

[Maggie_T]

Well, I had misgivings about this, but I must say it was a good film. Hubby was delighted because they dropped what he calls "the comic-book character" and did the film seriously. He read all the books, you see. He's re-reading some.

Anyway, I liked it. And I was pleasantly surprised by Craig Whatshisname. He did a very convincing Bond (in spite of his blond hair). He did not overact, or anything. And Suze, I agree. He has the most mesmerizing blue eyes (I'm a sucker for blue eyes). And what about that bod? :ooo: As the villain said "You took good care of your body, Mr. Bond." :biggrin:

All in all, I enjoyed it, although it took some time to get used not to see Q and his gadgets. :(

[Maggie_T]

The British are even more PC than we are.


Oh, God, yes! The first time she appeared, she even gave Bond the obligatory sneery feminist line about him being an "old dinosaur" or some such nonsense. :rolleyes:

Mind you, I like Judy Dench. I love the sitcom As Time Goes By, in which she starts. It's clever and funny.

[BarryC]

Most times I don't like remakes. The original Casino Royale was a spoof, a comedy. So right off the bat this movie is completely wrong.
I thought that immediately upon hearing that this movie was going to come out.
I'm a Bond fan to a certain extent, but I have not even seen them all. And some of them I have only seen parts of.
When I was young, and Roger Moore was still making Bond films, he was the only Bond to me. In fact at that time I thought he was the only actor to make Bond films. And also at that time I actually thought Roger Moore's real name was James Bond, and not Roger Moore. To this day he is my favorite Bond. I've never seen the Bond film with Lazenby in it, or the one(s) with Pierce Brosnan. To me he will always be Remington Steele.
By the way, it's Connery, not O'Connery.

[Suzie]

:claps: We went to see it last night, this man is spectacular. I hope they keep him in the role for a long time. He is much more "real" than the other Bonds. He gets dirty and bloody and doesn't always wear a suit.:thumb: