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Foquet
05-26-2006, 05:04 AM
Well, here we go. A brave new world. That is a world that will be made of rewarding invaders by giving them cizitenship and voting rights for trampling over our borders. Reward them for stealing Social Security numbers and other forms of identity theft, while still being eligible to receive said benefits. Of course, that would also mean that they would be eligible for SSI benefits. Seeing that this program is among the most abused and easily obtainable of all gov't programs, we can see far more than $54 billion in lawful American citizens tax money go down that rathole.

This is one of the most shameful days in the history of this country's Congress. House or Senate.

A few tidbits from this story....

"I am so proud of the Senate," Minority Leader Harry Reid said as those around him smiled broadly. "This is the way we should legislate -- on a bipartisan basis."

In other words, do what the Dems want. That is their and Vietnam Media's definition of bipartisanship.

Sen. John Cornyn, Texas Republican, said yesterday he has been amazed by the Senate's inability to do what voters clearly want.
"There seems to me to be a sense of surreality here, where people in the Senate just are not listening to what the American people are telling us," he said. "We've tried, through the course of the amendments that have been offered that people standing here have offered, to highlight some of the problems that we have identified and which I believe are responsive to the concerns that we've heard from our constituents."

Preach it, man!

Immediately before the final vote yesterday, conservatives suffered what they viewed as one final insult. Buried in a 125-page last-minute amendment was a requirement that local, state and federal officials in the U.S. consult with their Mexican counterparts before they can start building the fence.

Next, we will have to consult with these ass-clowns about how many square feet the next Taco Bell franchise shall have.

I am glad that the Times, (as usual) got both the story right and the headline right.

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Senate OKs citizenship for illegal aliens
By Charles Hurt
THE WASHINGTON TIMES
May 26, 2006

The Senate yesterday easily approved an immigration bill that allows 10 million illegal aliens to become citizens, doubles the flow of legal immigration each year and will cost U.S. taxpayers an estimated $54 billion over the next 10 years.

The leaders of both parties hailed the 62-36 passage as a historic success.
Majority Leader Bill Frist said the vote represented the "very best" of the Senate.
"This is a success for the American people," the Tennessee Republican said. "It is a success for people who hope to participate someday in that American dream."

Four Democrats -- Sens. Robert C. Byrd of West Virginia, Byron L. Dorgan of North Dakota, Ben Nelson of Nebraska and Debbie Stabenow of Michigan -- joined 32 of the chamber's 55 Republicans, including several members of the GOP leadership, to vote against the bill. Three of the four Democrats who opposed the bill face voters in November.

Opponents said that the Senate is ignoring clear public will and that the bill would have disastrous consequences for decades to come.

More Here:
http://washingtontimes.com/national/20060525-115532-3946r.htm

DoctorDoom
05-26-2006, 07:53 AM
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty, and the pursuit of Happiness.

That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed.

That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness.
-- The The Declaration Of Independence

HomeschoolrsRUs
05-26-2006, 08:12 AM
That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed.-- The The Declaration Of Independence

Please pardon my impertinence, :smirky: but you forgot to bold a relevant part, Doc, so I bolded it for ya here, :thumb: .

I am very close to withdrawing my consent to be governed in the present manner. We are states first, united second, imho, not the other way around. The federal government has grown into such a beast it is devouring the states and their rights as a mammoth machine never satiated.

I am currently reading (along with Women Who Make The World Worse by Kate O'Beirne), a series of books by Richard Maybury, link= Uncle Eric's Model of How The World Works - Bluestocking Press (http://www.bluestockingpress.com/catalog/default.php?cPath=21) ) regarding American history, politics and economics. It is absolutely fascinating to me how crystal clear the snowball effect of the descent of our country.

Wolfcounsel
05-26-2006, 08:14 AM
But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security. --The Declaration of Independence

Remember that part, you sleazebags from Washington!

Maggie_T
05-26-2006, 08:33 AM
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty, and the pursuit of Happiness.

That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed.

That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness.
-- The The Declaration Of Independence


What? That archaic document, written by dead white males?


Seriously. Is anyone really shocked by this bit of news? :rolleyes:

Kathy29
05-26-2006, 08:48 AM
It has to be stopped in the House. If we fail to stop it, then all of our laws will have to be cleared through mexico before they become laws. mexico will in effect be our government with our president answerable to mexico city instead of us.

Foquet
05-26-2006, 08:58 AM
It has to be stopped in the House. If we fail to stop it, then all of our laws will have to be cleared through mexico before they become laws. mexico will in effect be our government with our president answerable to mexico city instead of us.
Sort of a backdoor way for the Left to get what they have always wanted. Other nation-states to take over US soverignity and dictate law to us. They have been trying to do it via the UN for decades with limited sucess. This is more a case of the frog in the pot and a steppingstone towards that ultimate goal.

As for the House, I'd give it a 50-50 chance of passing there. Depends on how many wimp GOPers live up to their lack of spines.

My. Wile E. Coyote avatar sums up how I feel on this and many other issues.

maxparrish
05-26-2006, 10:09 AM
These are the five stages of a loyal Republican's grief before and after the Senate vote.

DENIAL --- Not even the members of the stupid party are that stupid. It must be more lies from the NYTimes, or somebody is control of my PC monitor...ya that's it, some whaco has over-written Yahoo News...
ANGER --- "%$@^##& car!", Those PINHEADS, MORONS, NITWITS, TRAITORS, BOTTOM FEEDING VERMIN.... How could, why did they, who would have thought, founders betrayed, people screwed again, they can't do this, no one sane could approve this, etc.
BARGAINING --- Maybe we can find a compromise, maybe fewer just guest workers, or just a bit of fencing, or something can be worked out. Oh pleasssse, Senator McCain, Hegel, Brownback, Frist...etc....oh pleassse listen we can find some deal to make it work? Oh maybe the House can find a nice compromise with you.
DEPRESSION --- It's hopeless. They don't give a shit what I think. They've even rubbed salt in our wound by requiriing we seek permission from the Mexican government to build a fence. It's hopeless, they always win..only now country is lost.
ACCEPTANCE --- No choice, life goes on. I'm still a loyal Republican. I still have to send in a contribution, I've got to make sure Senator Klaghorn (R) and Congressman Foghorn Leghorn (R) get my vote in November...there is always another day. Yep, I'll just accept it and wait for the next disappointment from my party.Hopefully, for some, Step 5 changes to:

5. NON-ACCEPTANCE - F' You. I shall never accept your pussilancious, pussy footing, fence-sitting, back-stabbing, democratic ass licking, bend over postureing. I will (your choice):

a) Refuse to vote for any traitor.
b) Join a new party.
c) Screw it, find a way to make money on the disaster.
d) Join the coyotes and bring as many illegals as I can to a traitor's State (while profiting).

Any thoughts?

Eagle1
05-26-2006, 10:41 AM
if the house bows to this traitorous bill, there will be hell to pay. very bad things will happen, and then the people of the US will rise up

HomeschoolrsRUs
05-26-2006, 10:42 AM
Max, I am currently at #5 as YOU define it:

I shall never accept their pussilancious, pussy footing, fence-sitting, back-stabbing, democratic donkey licking, bend over postureing. I will . . .

a) Refuse to vote for any traitor, and
b) Join a new party, if necessary.

Gonzo67
05-26-2006, 10:44 AM
Just 4 simple words....

LET THE REVOLUTION BEGIN

Maggie_T
05-26-2006, 01:46 PM
I think Gonzo has the right idea. A revolution is overdue.

Wolfcounsel
05-26-2006, 02:08 PM
The toads in Washington kissing Bush's ass had better remember for whom they work!

maxparrish
05-26-2006, 04:44 PM
I think Gonzo has the right idea. A revolution is overdue. When I was a youth organizer for Nixon, I was one of the few (at the 72 Miami convention) that wanted to pick up signs with my troops and take to the streets in counter demonstrations against the anti-war freaks - I was ready to rumble.

Of course, we are always vilified when we do what they do. So the Nixon adults said _ NOO NOOO NNOOOO. BE SWEET, SMILE for the cameras.

Well, I'm ready for a violent revolution - and if I thought there were angry mobs ready to take to the streets, ready to torch Senate offices, I'd be there with the lighter fluid. BUT, let's face it, we will no more defend our Republic than Roman citizens defended theirs. Most people will sit, shake, cry, and accept the barbarian hordes and democratic party masters. They will accept more taxes, socialism, virulent hatred against gringos, welfare, bankruptcy of social security and miedicare, and the nations fate of France and ethnic riots that await us. It will be the 60s again...and it will be OUR fault.

I'm heading for the hills. I can't take this shit anymore...I want to watch from a mountain top as our cities burn (as L.A. did a few years ago over Rodney King)...think that was bad? Worse is coming...but I'm 54 so I won't have to suffer more than 20 more years (or so). If you are younger - best of luck...you will need it.