Romney for President

[jason.bonham]

I am new to the group, and am from Chicago. I know I am opening up myself to alot of shots. But I am huge supporter of Mitt Romney. Romney's health care plan is a new direction for the health care debate since it's a plan the puts the reponsibility on the shoulders of the individual not the taxpayer.

Romney has been able to turn the deficit around in MA without raising any taxes. In fact he has just lowered taxes again, leaving Mass. as the 12 lowest state income tax.

While his social stance has definitiely evolved over the years, he is a pro-lifer, and has fought against same sex marriage institution in his state.

The national journal has ranked Romney as #2 of the most likely candidate, behind McCain.

www.illinoisans4mitt.blogspot.com (http://www.illinoisans4mitt.blogspot.com)

[DoctorDoom]

Having resided in Massholechusetts for 63-plus years, I have come to the conclusion that the only "Republicans" who are elected to ANY office in this pathetic state are RINOs who are more liberal than the RAT candidates.

I'd far prefer Romney to Hillary, but then I'd prefer Hussein to Hillary.

[jason.bonham]

Good Generalization but I wonder how you came to that conlusion about Romney.

[Beowulf]

Having worked in Mass for 5+ years, I got to watch him closely.
You are correct on your points, Bonham, but so is Doc. Only RINO'S get elected to office in Taxachusetts.

In fact he has just lowered taxes again, leaving Mass. as the 12 lowest state income tax.
Your property taxes make up for that though, based on the people that I've spoken too that live there.

and has fought against same sex marriage institution in his state.
And lost. What's the point? With only 14 or so Republicans in the Mass state legislature, anything Romney vetoes gets overridden. That and a far Left Wing court system only makes it worse.

Pro-Life he may be but he is also a gun grabber. Gun control is working real well in Taxachusetts :rolleyes: based on the amount of recent gun violence going on in Boston nowadays. I still find it amusing that Mayor Thomas "Mumbles" Menino blames other states for that instead of his own. Anyway......

I like Mitt for his courage but not as a presidential candidate.

[DesertFox]

I wouldn't vote for anybody named "Mitt." What is he, anyway? a first baseman? a catcher?

[Foquet]

Romney falls into the same categoey as Rudy does. Too liberal socially to be elected. And no GOP candidate will ever be elected or even nominated who is a gun-grabber as those two are. Especially with the mood of the conservative base today. Most moderates would be chum if they run.

Plus, when the GOP runs people that do not run as solid conservatives, they always lose. Bush 41 and Dole come to mind as recent examples. You also see that in the House and Senate where the number of RINOs are farily small. (Even if they cock up a lot legislation so they can raid get invited to Dem parties and raid Teddy's liquor cabinet).

[DoctorDoom]

Good Generalization but I wonder how you came to that conlusion about Romney.First, I've been following Massholechusetts politics for over 40 years, and I KNOW who is electable here.

Second, he was elected by the same brain-challenged voters that keep putting Ted "Hold your breath, Mary Jo!" Kennedunk and John "Kanamit" sKerry back in Congress.

Third, his RAT opponents were such consummate assholes that even the MA electorate wouldn't buy them.

I've read his bio and articles about his stances on various issues. I generally like the guy. But he's not presidential caliber, IMO.

As for the fags ...

Mass Resistance (http://www.article8.org/)

This crap is coming to your states, folks.

[jason.bonham]

sorry, I wasn't trying to second guess your knowledge of Mass. Polotics, Ddoom. What I meant was to ask how you came to the conclusion that the generalization applied specifically to Mitt. As far as my understanding of the issues are concerned he would fall directly in the conservative category. I think you must agree to some degree or else you wouldn't say you generaly like him.

The fact that he has been able to lower taxes and push through alot of his agenda through such a liberal legislature should be a positive to most conservatives. What kind of agenda could someone like Jerry Fallwell gotten through?

What good is it to be a political minority governor who doesn't know how to work with the majority. You would pretty much be a waste of time. If the 06 elections due turn out bad for Rep. than I would think Romney as president would be ideal. Actually I would think its ideal either way.

[maxparrish]

sorry, I wasn't trying to second guess your knowledge of Mass. Polotics, Ddoom. What I meant was to ask how you came to the conclusion that the generalization applied specifically to Mitt. As far as my understanding of the issues are concerned he would fall directly in the conservative category. I think you must agree to some degree or else you wouldn't say you generaly like him.

The fact that he has been able to lower taxes and push through alot of his agenda through such a liberal legislature should be a positive to most conservatives. What kind of agenda could someone like Jerry Fallwell gotten through?

What good is it to be a political minority governor who doesn't know how to work with the majority. You would pretty much be a waste of time. If the 06 elections due turn out bad for Rep. than I would think Romney as president would be ideal. Actually I would think its ideal either way.

The core conern is who will challenge McCain and will the be better. Romney, Guilianni, Allen ? I confess, given the horrible trogs that they say might run (Hegel, Graham, Brownback, Frist) its a HORRIBLE lineup. The only real conservative is Allen BUT I am not impressed with his personea.

Liberals or traitors - what a choice...sheeshhh. I could "gut out" Romney or Frist (I suppose), but Allen (and I forgot, Gingrich) may be the only fairly conservative choices. The rest are scary, and are toast after this immigration debacle...or at least they should be.

Will Romney appoint real conservatives to the courts?
Will he cut taxes?
Will he send the illegals home?
Will he get rid of McCain Fiengold?

Will he stand up to the likes of McCain - can he take on Hillary?

His DAD was a Rockefeller Republican - that does not portend good things.

[jason.bonham]

Will Romney appoint real conservatives to the courts?
Will he cut taxes?
Will he send the illegals home?
Will he get rid of McCain Fiengold?

Will he stand up to the likes of McCain - can he take on Hillary?




I am pretty positive he will apoint conservative judges. On abortion, gay marriage, etc. he always supports a states right to define its laws through the legislature, not the courts. Alot like Scalia.



Cut taxes? why wouldn't he. He is a buisness man and has only cut taxes in his home state (while turning a deficit into a surplus!)

Illegals? he opposes amnesty and supports strengthening the borders.


McCain Fiengold? I think the only thing you have is Romney coming out against campaign finance reform in Mass. Not much has really been said on that front.


In several online articles he is already seen as one of the top cadidates with McCain, plus he's not a senator. In Southern Republican Leadership Confernace Romney placed second in their straw poll behind Frist, who's state it was in. All across the web you can read articles that are showing Romney pulling out from the pack.

[DoctorDoom]

I'll grant that Romney is dancing barefoot in a pit of scorpions by being the gov of Massholechusetts. This state is owned by extremist libeRATS and militant queers. A nuke over Beacon Hill would solve 95% of MA's problems instantly.

Romney is therefore at a great disadvantage in terms of displaying his leadership abilities. Perhaps he would have a better chance at showing his stuff in a state where he wouldn't be up to his eyebrows in liberal assholes.

But there is still the matter of the Dembots in the MA electorate putting him into the governor's office. That gives me an uneasy feeling. They also elected Weld.

[Beowulf]

But there is still the matter of the Dembots in the MA electorate putting him into the governor's office. That gives me an uneasy feeling. They also elected Weld.

And Celucci. (sp)