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Un Con Troll Able
06-01-2006, 01:22 PM
By MIKE BAKER, Associated Press Writer Thu Jun 1, 9:50 AM ET

RALEIGH, N.C. - A state-appointed commission is urging North Carolina to provide reparations for the 1898 racial violence that sparked an exodus of more than 2,000 black residents from Wilmington.

The 500-page report that was produced after six years of study also said the violence, which killed as many as 60 people, was not a spontaneous riot but rather the nation's only recorded coup d'etat.

"There is no amount of money that can repair what happened years ago and compensate for the loss of lives and the loss of property," said vice chairman Irving Joyner, a professor at N.C. Central School of Law.

The commission did not provide any cost estimates, although compensation advocate Larry Thomas of Chapel Hill estimated that the economic losses calculated today are "probably in the billions of dollars."

Along with compensation to victims' descendants, the commission also recommended incentives for minority small businesses and help for minority home ownership. It also recommended that the history of the incident be taught in public schools.

State Rep. Thomas Wright, a Democrat who helped establish and chair the panel, said the next step is to file a bill in the Legislature with the recommendations. That won't happen before 2007 because the filing deadline for this session has passed.

The 1898 violence began when white vigilantes, resentful after years of black and Republican political rule during Reconstruction, burned the printing press of a black newspaper publisher, Alexander Manly.

Violence spread, resulting in an exodus of 2,100 blacks, the commission concluded. Then the largest city in the state, Wilmington flipped from a black majority to a white majority in the months that followed.

Before the violence, which led to a Democratic takeover from Republicans and Populists, black men in North Carolina had been able to vote for about three decades. But Democrats quickly passed voter literacy tests and a grandfather clause, which disenfranchised black voters until the civil rights movement of the 1960s.

"The growth of Wilmington was stunted as a result of what happened in 1898," Joyner said. "Wilmington has never recovered economically, socially or politically."


I admit to wanting to fly into a blind rage when I read stories such as this. It's incremental folks, trust me! This gets paid out and the rollback clock is only 40 years from slave reparations, and you and I will be paying for it.

Can't these people (translation of "these people": BLACKS) find any way to join America on some level? Yes, what happened there was horrific, but none of the victims is still alive and neither are any of the perpetrators.

This must be fought. It must be scorned -- and that scorn should be screamed because this is a genuine attempt to create a slippery slope. As I said, it's incremental.

The rest of the disgusting story:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060601/ap_on_re_us/nc_race_riots_1

Rhino
06-01-2006, 01:29 PM
http://home.earthlink.net/~simmoh/images/dreamcorrupted.jpg

DoctorDoom
06-01-2006, 01:40 PM
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CzechPrince
06-01-2006, 01:52 PM
That's lame. No one alive today is responsible for that.

DoctorDoom
06-01-2006, 02:00 PM
That doesn't really matter, guy. It's a way to get money for doing nothing.

Un Con Troll Able
06-01-2006, 02:49 PM
Actually, it's pretty clever--in a sickening way. They are attempting to establish a precedent whereby immediate family members of the actual victims are paid compensation even if the victims themselves are no longer alive.

This was the philosophy applied when the U.S. government paid compensation to Americans of Japanese descent who were wrongfully confined in internment camps during WWII. I don't know the specifics of the payouts -- i.e., if the family member actually had to be alive at the time of internment or if they simply have to be an immediate family member (regardless of what year, say, 1955, they were born).

Applying the latter (1955 birth year) WWII example, it is conceivable that an immediate family member could still be alive -- having been born many years after the events of 1898.

The bottom line is that the forces of the "You are going to apologize to me and then you are going to give me your money, dammit!!!" brigade aren't going to stop this sickening crusade for 'compensation.' Instead of trying to go in through the front door, they are now trying the back door -- or are looking for an unlocked window. Another example of this mentality are the lawsuits that have been filed by black 'activists' against companies that existed during slavery and are still in existence -- their argument being that they profited directly from slavery (or bigotted company policies).

Congress needs to pass a law absolving all currently-living American citizens of any financial claims made regarding slavery or the subsequent discrimination experienced by blacks.

This simply has to end.

Rhino
06-01-2006, 03:07 PM
This simply has to end.I'm bettin it won't.

Un Con Troll Able
06-01-2006, 03:14 PM
And that is precisely why I am relieved that I will not live long enough to see the year 2050.

...because America will no longer exist (at least not in any form any conservative would find acceptable). 150 years to build it into a shining beacon...and 100 years to turn it into a dark toilet.

We should be ashamed of ourselves.

DeclinetoState
06-01-2006, 04:17 PM
The 500-page report that was produced after six years of study also said the violence, which killed as many as 60 people, was not a spontaneous riot but rather the nation's only recorded coup d'etat.


Five-hundred pages and six years of study? How much did it cost to generate this document? How many trees had to be chopped down to make it? How much did it all contribute to global warming?

Beowulf
06-01-2006, 04:52 PM
That's lame. No one alive today is responsible for that.
As Doc so pointed out, it's money for nothing. It's just another brand of Frivelous lawsuit!

DesertFox
06-01-2006, 09:57 PM
Nope. These thievin' bastids are gonna push too hard too far one of these days and it's all gonna erupt like King Kong shootin' off a volcano and get sorted out.

Foquet
06-01-2006, 09:59 PM
"compensation advocate Larry Thomas"

Where can I get a job like that? And if not that job, how about a condom pre-tester?

Waste..my friends.

Gonzo67
06-01-2006, 10:33 PM
I will be more than willing to agree to "reparations" when they can answer the following:

1. How many bushels of cotton did you have to pick today?

2. How many times did you have to give up your seat on the bus to a white man today?

3. How many times were you denied a drink out of the "whites only" drinking fountain today?

4. How many times did you apply for a job and were told "We don't hire YOUR kind" today?

Well, if the answer was ZERO to all 4 questions, then might I suggest you put down the welfare check and go get a fukin job.

Rink
06-01-2006, 11:35 PM
The 500-page report that was produced after six years of study also said the violence, which killed as many as 60 people, was not a spontaneous riot but rather the nation's only recorded coup d'etat.


Sorry but that wasnt the ONLY Nations Coup d'etat, ever heard of ROSEWOOD, FL in the 1920's?

As for discrimination and being ran out of towns, the chinese were (more than once) ran out of Seattle.

And for discrimination, there was a time in America where shop owners stated 'Irish Need Not Apply'

So the blacks werent the ONLY ones that suffered racism, the American Indians, the Chinese and more suffered from racism.

Geez I wish these morons would get a life and stop trying to cook up schemes to pilfer money from the whites by using the race card and 'white guilt'

The_Elucidator
06-02-2006, 06:14 AM
I will be more than willing to agree to "reparations" when they can answer the following:

4. How many times did you apply for a job and were told "We don't hire YOUR kind" today?

Well, if the answer was ZERO to all 4 questions, then might I suggest you put down the welfare check and go get a fukin job.

Actually Gonzo - I was told that many times here in south Texas! Because I'm not bilingual I was told that they couldn't use me and my 21 years of Military training and experience. God did ultimately have a plan for me and my family but I was discriminated against.

Gonzo67
06-02-2006, 06:17 AM
While I agree you were "discriminated against", you were not denied employment based on your race. Just the fact that you didn't speak a language other than English.

Rhino
06-02-2006, 06:29 AM
Sorry but that wasnt the ONLY Nations Coup d'etat, ever heard of ROSEWOOD, FL in the 1920's?Shhhh!! Don't confuse them with facts!

CzechPrince
06-03-2006, 01:58 AM
That doesn't really matter, guy. It's a way to get money for doing nothing.

Oh I know. Maybe I should get reparations from Russia, or from Germany for invading my grandparent's homeland. :whistle:

Beowulf
06-03-2006, 07:47 AM
Actually Gonzo - I was told that many times here in south Texas! Because I'm not bilingual I was told that they couldn't use me and my 21 years of Military training and experience. God did ultimately have a plan for me and my family but I was discriminated against.

So much for Veteran's Preference, hey Elucidator? Hasn't helped me much either.