No to the flag burning amendment! (Neal Boortz)

[EveningStar]

...Instead of making the tough choices on items such as government spending, immigration, tax reform and returning our economic liberties, these political hacks are spending time on this nonsense...
Read the whole thing. (http://boortz.com/nuze/200606/06152006.html#flag)

[Beowulf]

Never mind a flag burning amendment. I propose two things:

-If a veteran or anyone else who finds it wrong to burn a flag outside of normal retirment, they are allowed to defend the flag again and beat to within an inch of their life the person or person's burning the flag.

-I was taught that the flag is a living thing and I treat it as such. If I burn a person to death, I am guilty of murder. I say anyone who burns the flag is guilty of murder as well. Hey, it's a living thing!

[Beowulf]

Kind of a problem when the CORRECT and authorized way to destroy the Flag is by burning it.



Yes, it is, if it is being retired. To burn it for any other reason should be a felony charge of murder.

[DeclinetoState]

Pass a law that the flag shall be made of a non-flammable material. Of course, that may make it difficult to ceremonially burn an old, worn-out flag.

[Lubbock]

The states could get around the issue by simply using the "inciting to riot" statue that is on the books in most jurisdictions.

Charge the flag burner with inciting to riot. Now, that's a charge that a prosecutor could probably make stick.

Oh, there are some places --San Fran and Hollyweird being two I can thinkof right off the top of my head, where the flag burner would be surrounded and cheered on, but I think you find most often, when a protest takes place and a flag is burned, there are, as a rule, protesters protesting the protesters, and thus, you have a potential riot situation.

Lock all their cummunist butts up and charge them.

[The Liberals]

Outlaw burning of the flag. That sounds like something the Chinese would do. Or the Soviets.

Much as I hate seeing our flag burned, which btw is a pretty rare sight, we shouldn't make it a crime.

THe right to express discontent and petition the government for a redress of grievances is much more important than preventing offense at seeing the flag burned. IMO.

In a free country, people should have the right to express themselves, even if they're wrong. The war of ideas will be won or lost based on the merits of the arguments.

[Lubbock]

I don't know why we Conservatives can't have just one law that speaks to our being offended.

You Libs enact law against everything that offends you; let's start with laws regarding "hate speech" and how it's defined, to name just one.

[Foquet]

Outlaw burning of the flag. That sounds like something the Chinese would do. Or the Soviets.

Much as I hate seeing our flag burned, which BTW is a pretty rare sight, we shouldn't make it a crime. It might give Osama Moore an orgasm.

THe right to express discontent and to petition the government for a redress of grievances is much more important than preventing offense at seeing the flag burned.

In a free country, people should have the right to express themselves, even if they're wrong. The war of ideas will be won or lost based on the merits of the arguments.

Agreed. The Feds have little power over our right to demonstrate. Whether the flag or even a lesbian tampon that is lying on the street. (Granted, if I did the latter, I would be accused of rape, since that is the way that Leftist Mind works...so to speak for even looking at one)

It is a shame free expression is so far to the Left's Oprah interpratation. (That which you hairdresser fag lefties revel in) You know, I would prefer to burn the Mexican Flag and prefer to wrap as many Mexicans within it...legal or not..and see them burn to death. It might smell like a burrito that is well past it's prime......sort of like the GOP/Dem Senate crap that they are trying on us.

After all..I am "exercising" my rights.

-- This was a Random Thought Alert via Nos. You are free to ignore it. --

[Beowulf]

Outlaw burning of the flag. That sounds like something the Chinese would do. Or the Soviets.

Much as I hate seeing our flag burned, which btw is a pretty rare sight, we shouldn't make it a crime.

THe right to express discontent and petition the government for a redress of grievances is much more important than preventing offense at seeing the flag burned. IMO.

In a free country, people should have the right to express themselves, even if they're wrong. The war of ideas will be won or lost based on the merits of the arguments.

So long as the flag is considered a "living thing," and it is by law, it should be a crime.
But as I said, Liberal, the law should also state that if I object to how you are protesting by burning the flag, I should NOT be prosecuted for kicking your ass when I defend the flag that I helped to keep free. Until then, I will be fine with going to jail defending it.

[DoctorDoom]

In a free country, people should have the right to express themselves, even if they're wrong.And those who vigorously disagree with their expression should also be able to express themselves with whatever implements of attitude adjustment are on hand.

BTW, why is burning our flag "speech"? A fugging chimpanzee could be taught to do it. The only speech those assholes use is slogans and chants. Their combined numbers have the collective IQ of a lobotomized cockroach.

The war of ideas will be won or lost based on the merits of the arguments.Liberals/leftists have no ideas. They are driven solely by hatred. Their "thinking" is a Borgian machine mentality. America would be a far better place if they were machine-gunned, ground into moronburger, and used to fertilize tobacco fields.

[Wolfcounsel]

"You Libs enact law against everything that offends you;..." --Lubbock

If they can't get one enacted, they get a slimeball baboon in black robes to make up a law that is favorable to them.

[S-T]

BTW, why is burning our flag "speech"? A fugging chimpanzee could be taught to do it.
So if someone burns a rainbow flag to protest special rights for sodomites, that is not speech either? I know someone who burned the Soviet flag in front of the Soviet embassy in Washington DC during the Vietnam War. (She and her friends were motivated by anti-war protesters burning the American flag.) Is that not speech? It is certainly intended to make a political statement

Do we conservatives believe in private property rights, or not?

http://scott.sstibbs.com/blog/2005_06_22_flag-burning.html

http://scott.sstibbs.com/opinion/tibbs20.html

[cerberus]

Well put S-T.
The original article sums it up pretty well too. Such an amendment is asinine and goes against the very principle the flag seeks to define. They day that Amendment is passed is the day I burn my flag because it's lost it's value.

[gnome]

One's patriotism is shown by their allegiance to American values, not American symbols. Hundreds of people could burn thousands of flags and America would still stand for freedom. Our flag doesn't need the protection of a bunch of vote-grubbing politicians--it is an immortal image that goes beyond mere cloth.

It's just a game of "I love the flag more than you" and unfortunately, it works. Do you really in your heart think that a senator uncomfortable with making exceptions to the First Amendment actually has some kind of hostility towards the US Flag? Yet this is exactly the impression that will be thrown at any senator who dares oppose this waste of time.

How many flags are burned in America each year? Is this a problem that needs the full attention of both houses of Congress and each state legislature? Is there a flag-burning crisis?

To me this represents exactly what most people hate about politicians--that they promote meaningless gestures instead of actually solving problems that make a difference.