Senate Votes Against Raising Minimum Wage

[Rhino]

Senate Votes Against Raising Minimum Wage

Wednesday, June 21, 2006

WASHINGTON — The Republican-controlled Senate refused Wednesday to raise the minimum wage, rejecting an election-year proposal from Democrats for the first increase in nearly a decade.

The vote was 52-46, eight short of the 60 needed.

"I don't think the Republicans get it," said Sen. Edward M. Kennedy, D-Mass., who backed a proposal for a three-step increase in the current wage floor to $7.25 an hour. The federal minimum wage has been fixed at $5.15 an hour since 1997.......http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,200447,00.html

[HomeschoolrsRUs]

:claps: FINALLY, a vote by the Republicans I can applaud!

[Wyatt_Junker]

Flipping straight.

They better bitchslap that shit down.

If we stitched up the border, we wouldn't even need this pampered kind of mentality where labor needs an imaginary crutch.

Kick the mexicant's out. Min. wage becomes a non-issue.

Why am I so smart?

[HomeschoolrsRUs]

Why am I so smart?

Because you're running for President? :smirky:

[Wyatt_Junker]

Because you're running for President? :smirky:

I see you're still looking for a seat in the cabby? :smirky:

I will look into it even though I can make any promises.

[HomeschoolrsRUs]

I see you're still looking for a seat in the cabby? :smirky:

I will look into it even though I can make any promises.

Hey Buddy, I already GOT a seat on the bus ... you trying to revoke my ticket?


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"Homes, you can be a part of the support staff. I will rely on you for my daily briefing. I start early. 6AM ... sharp."

[Wyatt_Junker]

I stand corrected. :biggrin:

[queue]

Let me see... increase the Minimum Wage which will affect less than 0.7% of workers paid hourly rates (Statistical Abstract Table 636 (http://www.census.gov/compendia/statab/tables/06s0636.xls)) which will increase the number of workers making less than Minimum Wage (there are jobs that are exempt from the Minimum Wage and 2.0% of workers paid hourly rates are currently below the Minimum Wage) and the amount of people making Minimum Wage (since those that are currently making the amount that Minimum Wage will increase to, will not automatically get the same type of wage increase) which will increase the costs for the businesses that employ Minimum Wage employees which will increase the amount those businesses charge for products/services which will increase the cost of living which will affect everyone.

I am glad that they did not increase the Federal Minimum Wage.

[pinqy]

Let me see... increase the Minimum Wage which will affect less than 0.7% of workers paid hourly rates (Statistical Abstract Table 636 (http://www.census.gov/compendia/statab/tables/06s0636.xls)) which will increase the number of workers making less than Minimum Wage (there are jobs that are exempt from the Minimum Wage and 2.0% of workers paid hourly rates are currently below the Minimum Wage)... Usually, the number of people cited as making below the minimum wage is higher than the number making below the minimum wage, but a large percentage of that is due to nonsampling error and most are actually making at or above the minimum wage. This is known, but cannot be corrected for.

[queue]

The Bureau of Labor Statistics has a page regarding the Characteristics of Minimum Wage Workers (http://www.bls.gov/cps/minwage2004.htm)which includes a link at the bottom which goes to an article that was in the January 1990 Monthly Labor Review called "Estimating the number of minimum wage workers".

[DoctorDoom]

After listening to that bloated bastard from Massholechusetts rant and rave, this elates me. ANYTHING that pisses him off is justified.

But then he and his fellow RATs are liplocked on the butts of Big Labor, who use MW increases as their rationale for demanding increases in union wages, thus costing companies that employ them more money, resulting in price increases for their products, which negates the value of the MW increase, and the dog chases his tail round and round and ...

[Naturalized-Texan]

What I want to know is, What business is it of the government -federal, state, or local - how much an employer pays his employees? Every employee's wages should be a private matter between the employee and the employer. The government should have no say in the matter.

[Rink]

The Govt should Eliminate the minimum wage laws and allow markets to decide for themselves.

As every single time the minimum wage goes up, everything from the smallest on up goes up in price.

Washington state has the Highest Minimum wage per capita in the nation (from what I understand it) and the moment they raised the minimum wage last year a simple hamburger went up to nearly 3 dollars. Its gotten rediculous.

I agree with NT the govt should stay out, if they want this to be a truly 'free market economy then the govt needs to get the hell out of the way and stop mandating prices, wages et al...

[BuckeyeMike]

Hear , hear enntee..............just wish those bloviating blowhards would turn down their OWN wage increases once in a while...........but that will never happen!

[dajoga]

My state raised the MW by $1.10 starting Oct. I wrote a letter to the editor of the state's leading newspaper--the gist of which went:
"Let me see if I got this straight! We complain about jobs going overseas because of cheaper labor, so our erudite legislature and governor raise the MW by $1.10? How in the world is that going to help? But, hey, my job's worth three times the MW so my rates will go up $3 in October! Thanks gov."

The looney-leftist line that only a few people make minimum wage so why not raise it is simple stupidity--if one starts at MW and in 6 months gets a $.10 raise, of course, he/she no longer is at MW--DUH!!! The point is that if MW increases there's a trickle-up effect on all wages.

Ex. in my state they showed a 21yr. old guy who's worked at a McD's for 4 years. He's now making $6/hr. When the new MW kicks in he'll get a $.25 raise to $6.25! But is that fair?? NO!!! He should get $1.10 raise since he's earned $.85 in raises so far. Why should the new hamburger flipper with no experience get the same as this kid?
OTH, I wondered, why is he still working at a McDs? No HS diploma maybe? He's shacked up with a gal and has a kid already. So the guy's already got 3 strikes against him for ever getting out of the lower income bracket.

BTW, it was either Thomas Sowell or Walter Williams who said that the MW was originally started to keep black kids from taking jobs from white kids, yet now black leadership are pushing it and it still keeps doing what it was started for.

[Rink]

Dont forget there's a TON of mexicans that work at McD's anymore (well around here anyhow)

I think if I am correct the WA state Minimum wage is $7.50/hr?

Dont quote me it may be higher now...

Then again WA state upped the taxes across the board as well so raising the Minimum wage wont help a thing cept drive the price of products through the roof thats all.

[DoctorDoom]

What I want to know is, What business is it of the government -federal, state, or local - how much an employer pays his employees?Didn't you know? The First Amendment's establishment clause, enforced by the 14th, gives the fedgov that authority ... well, it MUST. It explains every other violation of the 10th these days, if our looney libs are to be believed.

[Riverboat]

Hey Buddy, I already GOT a seat on the bus ... you trying to revoke my ticket?
I stand corrected. I got dibs on the seat next to her.

I saved this quote ten years ago that is suddenly very germane, if you will make allowances for the dollar figures cites:

Many well-meaning people favor legal minimum wage rates in the mistaken belief that they help the poor. It has always been a mystery to me why a youngster is better off unemployed at $4.75 an hour than employed at $4.25. - Nobel laureate Milton Friedman

[Rink]

Hey marbleheader what business do you run? I found out that if you hire handicapped people you can get tax breaks and writeoffs by doin so.

[Wyatt_Junker]

Hey marbleheader what business do you run? I found out that if you hire handicapped people you can get tax breaks and writeoffs by doin so.

I've hired me some simple folk.

I have an employee with down's. Had him for coming up on dang near 20 years now. He walks around one of my stores with a sharp stick and daggers trash.

I have another guy with some other problem. I saw him one day wandering around pushing a shopping cart and wearing a football helmet. He was very meticulous and was picking up trash pro bono. I called an agency that could help him by paying him to do what he already so loved doing. Then I hired him. He still wears the football helmet too.

I have another lady with another problem. She acts like a 9 yr. old girl, but is in the body of a 45 year old. She also has a goat tee. And when she talks she sounds just like Curly from the 3 Stooges. I hired her on as an independent contractor. She used to work for Applebee's. She would wrap napkins around silverware and run a paper 'ring' around it, holding it together like a cylinder. They paid her by the count. I have her doing similar chores, by the count.

I have another guy who works with her who walks around with his pant's pockets stuffed with fabric softeners. He pulls them out occasionally and huffs on them. Sometimes I see him at the water cooler with his eyes closed just taking a big drag on one.

I've got another guy in a wheelchair. He's not very quick on his feet as you can imagine, but his hands are another matter. He can blast through daily tasks. Sometimes he moans while doing this.

Some of these folks are better employees than my other 'normal' employees. They don't complain, don't do drama and are on point. They are also subsidized by the state which certianly helps. I'm not running a charity and probably wouldn't hire them if that was not the case, but they get a bit of pride and I get a good deal also.

Plus, I get to laugh at the guy in the football helmet. He's a riot.

[Riverboat]

Who's a thunk? Wyatt Junker a humanitarian! Here all along I pictured him with a glass eye and a hook on his right hand with a cat-o-nine-tails in the other.

I kinda liked the other Wyatt.

[Wyatt_Junker]

Who's a thunk? Wyatt Junker a humanitarian! Here all along I pictured him with a glass eye and a hook on his right hand with a cat-o-nine-tails in the other.

I kinda liked the other Wyatt.

What, I hire a few retardo mantobans and all of a sudden I'm Mr. Feel Good?

Hardly.

I have them all hooked up on pulley systems connected to industrial cable leashes, a kind of dog run. Before you know it, they will all have Stockholm syndrome and will pay me just for catching of glimpse of yours truly.

[Kathy29]

I hire retards too and I'm no humanitarian.

[DesertFox]

"I don't think the Republicans get it," said Sen. Edward M. KennedyI think they do, Fat Ass. They know that you´re thick as thieves with the unions, which want minimum wage hikes so they can steal demand more from the employees their indentured servants workers work for.

[Rink]

I have a couple o' businesses. I've actually capitalized on that before. Work Opportunity Tax Credit allows you to defer fed tax liability for each one you hire. You have to have a vocational rehab referral for them. Also, for new hires that work over something like 375 hours or more you get a tax credit of up to 40% of their wages (up to $6500). Less hours and you get something like 25% back. There is some stupid IRS crap you have to jump thru tho. But yeah its a good deal? You have biz? Theres other tax credits for just plain old new hires:
http://www.uses.doleta.gov/wotcdata.asp#update

I'm looking to hire a native-american female veteran with a service connected disability of 75% that has 4 kids and is single. I think if you hire her they give you free islands or something like that.

No I have no business, I wish, but I dont, the last 'busines's I had tried to succeed in was the 'Horse business which didnt make it due to many reasons, market, and other factors that nixed it.

I am a disabled American (hearing disability) looking to get into the trucking industry, if you ever have need of someone who holds a Class A CDL and need goods transported for you, gimme a call and I'll be happy to do so for you.

Treat me right and I'm loyal for life, treat me bad, and I'm just plain gone.

I dont diss any former 'employers' I will tho tell the truth as it is and never embellish it to favor any side.

I'm honest to a fault and refuse to lie, steal or be a slacker in anything I do.

I found out bout the Tax breaks by my DVR lady.

So thats all there on that...

[Rink]

No I dont have my own truck, I'd have to work for a company for a while before ever owning my own truck.

I can understand why she would think about selling out, as with big companies they can defer the costs of the high fuel prices onto their customers via surcharges and fees, the small operator cannot do such cost deferring as the big guys can, hence the high price of fuel is killing the small trucker companies because they dont have the flexibility or ability to do such cost deferring as the big companies can...

[DeclinetoState]

"I don't think the Republicans get it," said Sen. Edward M. Kennedy Who knows? Maybe Ted doesn't want to feel guilty about stiffing his barmaid anymore when he leaves his tip.

[edgarv]

In our area the "living wage" garbage is very big. Local hypenated kiddes from the university do their sitins demanding a raise to $10.82 an hour (don't even ask where they came up with that).

The sheer smugness of these cahracters is unbearable--a moral superiority in their willful ignorance of either management or economics.

[BarkleUSA]

Let’s see. The government mandates that every employer increase their MW workers pay from $5.15 to $7.25 an hour, a 41% increase.

The employer is then forced to comply by choosing a combination of four options:

1. Absorb the 41% labor increase – reducing operating profit.
2. Pass the increase onto his customers – increase the price of the goods and/or services offered.
3. Layoff the lowest performing workers - expect the others to take on more work.
4. Hire illegal workers who can’t complain.

What the libs argue is "compassionate social justice" in fact leads to unemployment, inflation, overwork, increased illegal immigration and further weakening our competitive lobor position in the world.

And maybe that’s their real agenda.

[Beowulf]

You can bet that Democrats will use this piece of defeated "feel good" legislation to try and drum up seats in the House and Senate in November.