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True Grace
07-11-2006, 12:44 PM
I'm curious about how everyone currently feels about the Bush Administration.

On a scale from 1-10, with 10 being the highest, how would you rate Bush's overall performance as our Commander in Chief?

What actions by Bush in the last 5-6 years have you agreed with?

What actions have you disagreed with?

Is your opinion of him more or less favorable now than it was a year ago?

If there were another election tomorrow, would you vote for him?

Lubbock
07-11-2006, 01:06 PM
On a scale from 1-10, with 10 being the highest, how would you rate Bush's overall performance as our Commander in Chief?
10. And it will remain a 10 until they find an intern under his desk.

What actions by Bush in the last 5-6 years have you agreed with?
His resolute statnce War on Terrorism, tax cuts/economy, his present handling of the North Korea issue.

What actions have you disagreed with?
Immigration, but he's coming around.

Is your opinion of him more or less favorable now than it was a year ago?
More favorable.

If there were another election tomorrow, would you vote for him?
Absolutely.

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Rhino
07-11-2006, 01:27 PM
I'm curious about how everyone currently feels about the Bush Administration.

On a scale from 1-10, with 10 being the highest, how would you rate Bush's overall performance as our Commander in Chief?
As A President overall, an 8. As a conservative President, a 5.

What actions by Bush in the last 5-6 years have you agreed with?
Tax cuts, the WOT, pissing off the liberals, etc.

What actions have you disagreed with?
Quite a few, though immigration is the only one that mainly comes to mind right now.

Is your opinion of him more or less favorable now than it was a year ago?
Less, mainly due to immigration.

If there were another election tomorrow, would you vote for him?
Who's he running against?

Naturalized-Texan
07-11-2006, 01:52 PM
On a scale from 1-10, with 10 being the highest, how would you rate Bush's overall performance as our Commander in Chief?
10. He has been unflinchingly resolute in rebuilding the military after 8 years of neglect and in fighting the War on Terror.

What actions by Bush in the last 5-6 years have you agreed with?
Defense in general, Fighting the War on Terror in particular; Tax cuts; Rebulding the economy following the Clinton Recession; Rescinding the Kyoto Protocols; Rescinding the ICC; Judicial appointments; Deploying SDI; His attempts to reform Social Security and Medicare, etc. EDIT: Oops! I forgot to include Free Trade with which I heartily agree.

What actions have you disagreed with?
Immigration; Education bill; spending (but the real blame lies with Congress); Prescription drug "benefit".

Is your opinion of him more or less favorable now than it was a year ago?
About the same.

If there were another election tomorrow, would you vote for him?
Definitely!

HomeschoolrsRUs
07-11-2006, 01:54 PM
On a scale from 1-10, with 10 being the highest, how would you rate Bush's overall performance as our Commander in Chief?

6.5

What actions by Bush in the last 5-6 years have you agreed with?

Tax cuts, his stand on the issue of marriage, the WOT, his stand on the privatization of Social Security

What actions have you disagreed with?

Illegal Immigration (guest worker program, amnesty, no fence, increased National Guard with no teeth, etc.) / response to the Minutemen, the Dubai Ports deal, US Gov't handling of aftermath from Hurricane Katrina

Is your opinion of him more or less favorable now than it was a year ago?

Less

If there were another election tomorrow, would you vote for him?

My first reaction would be to say "no," but in actuality it would depend upon who he is running against (if Kerry again, then I'd vote for President Bush) and if there were any viable third party Conservative candidates.

CzechPrince
07-11-2006, 04:29 PM
I'm curious about how everyone currently feels about the Bush Administration.

On a scale from 1-10, with 10 being the highest, how would you rate Bush's overall performance as our Commander in Chief?

4, at best.

What actions by Bush in the last 5-6 years have you agreed with?

Handeling of 9/11, Afghanistan, Iraq to some degree, tax cuts. That's about it.

What actions have you disagreed with?

Partially Iraq (more so now, I think we've done enough), immigration, medicare bill, his spending, the defecits, Patriot Act, trying to constitutionally ban gay marraige, faith based initiatives....etc, the list could go on and on.

Is your opinion of him more or less favorable now than it was a year ago?

.........Less.

If there were another election tomorrow, would you vote for him?

Hell No.

gnome
07-11-2006, 04:58 PM
I'm curious about how everyone currently feels about the Bush Administration.

On a scale from 1-10, with 10 being the highest, how would you rate Bush's overall performance as our Commander in Chief?

4.

What actions by Bush in the last 5-6 years have you agreed with?

A more ambitious space program. The war in Afghanistan. Maintaining a close relationship with Russia. His responses to the Israel-Palestine conflict.

What actions have you disagreed with?

Too many to list.

Is your opinion of him more or less favorable now than it was a year ago?

About the same.

If there were another election tomorrow, would you vote for him?

not unless he was running against someone even worse.

Lubbock
07-11-2006, 05:44 PM
Does anyone have any information on the Tennessee race for Limp Wrist Frist's seat? Harold Ford, Jr. (D) is running for it. I don't even know who the challenger is.

I only know that I utterly despise HF, Jr.

Maggie_T
07-12-2006, 11:33 AM
Let me put it this way. I wish we still had the Bush we had right after 9/11. After that, for reasons I will never understand, he turned into a mushy conservative ... at best.

Would I vote for him again? The question is sort of moot since he's not running anymore. Having said that, I will always vote for anyone running against a liberal, which is anyone in the democrat party, these days.

Rhino
07-12-2006, 11:38 AM
I will always vote for anyone running against a liberal, which is anyone in the democrat party, these days.
And some in the Republican party.

TechnoPrincess
07-12-2006, 12:06 PM
On a scale from 1-10, with 10 being the highest, how would you rate Bush's overall performance as our Commander in Chief?

6.5

What actions by Bush in the last 5-6 years have you agreed with?

Tax cuts, his stand on the issue of marriage, the WOT, his stand on the privatization of Social Security

What actions have you disagreed with?

Illegal Immigration (guest worker program, amnesty, no fence, increased National Guard with no teeth, etc.) / response to the Minutemen, the Dubai Ports deal, US Gov't handling of aftermath from Hurricane Katrina

Is your opinion of him more or less favorable now than it was a year ago?

Less

If there were another election tomorrow, would you vote for him?

My first reaction would be to say "no," but in actuality it would depend upon who he is running against (if Kerry again, then I'd vote for President Bush) and if there were any viable third party Conservative candidates.
:yeahthat:
What Homes said.

dajoga
07-12-2006, 01:16 PM
What actions by Bush in the last 5-6 years have you agreed with?
Tax-cuts; war on terror;

What actions have you disagreed with?
should be tougher on illegal immigration; tougher on Iran & NK; Letting the Dept. of Homeland Security get too massive and expensive.

Is your opinion of him more or less favorable now than it was a year ago?
slightly less

If there were another election tomorrow, would you vote for him? Yes, b/c the 'rats don't have anyone even close to my positions.

I'd give him a rating of 7-8!

Longhorn_Platinum
07-12-2006, 02:59 PM
On a scale from 1-10, with 10 being the highest, how would you rate Bush's overall performance as our Commander in Chief?

:moo: He's not Reagan, but I'll still give him an 8.

What actions by Bush in the last 5-6 years have you agreed with?

:moo: The Supreme Court appointments, that he didn't retract.

What actions have you disagreed with?

:unsmile: "No Child Left Behind". Mr. Bush needs to keep his opinions out of education. He's only making things worse.

Is your opinion of him more or less favorable now than it was a year ago?

:moo: Neither.

If there were another election tomorrow, would you vote for him?

:moo: Yes, I would still vote for Bush over Igor or Skerry.

Nutrider99
07-12-2006, 03:32 PM
I'm curious about how everyone currently feels about the Bush Administration.

On a scale from 1-10, with 10 being the highest, how would you rate Bush's overall performance as our Commander in Chief?
9. The embedded reporters was a great idea. I loved the aircraft carrier scene. "Bring it on," was classic. However, he is too in love with the "new tone" to call a damn traitor for what he is. In that regard, I wish he were more like truman.

What actions by Bush in the last 5-6 years have you agreed with?
The war in Iraq, the tax cuts, the intial push to get his programs through will the dems were still crying that their attempt to steal the election failed, some of his judicial picks, rolling back some of the clintoon executive orders.

What actions have you disagreed with?
Failing to explain to the American people the orchestrated effort by the dems to steal Florida which began BEFORE the election, allowing the Marc Rich pardons, not repealing every clintoon executive order since the election, not reviewing every single pardon, not releasing pictures of the vandalism of OUR White House by the clintoons, failing to prosecute the criminals who took Chinese campaign contributions, extending the honor of a former president to a man who disgraced his office, failing to prosecute hillary clintoon's perjury, failing to secure the borders, failing to expose the lies of the liberal media, failing to remind democreep Senators what THEY said about the WMD, allowing Iraq enough time to ship the WMD out of Iraq, failing to intercept shipments from Iraq to Syria that the CIA knew to contain WMD, failing to seal the Iraqi border, failing to kill foreign terrorists sneaking across the Iraqi border, failing to vote to remove france from NATO, failing to expose the NY Times as an organization sympatheic to terrorists and failing to revoke their press credentials. That's a few.

Is your opinion of him more or less favorable now than it was a year ago?
Unchanged.

If there were another election tomorrow, would you vote for him?
Absolutely, if it was Constitutional.

Timberwolf
07-12-2006, 10:31 PM
On a scale from 1-10, with 10 being the highest, how would you rate Bush's overall performance as our Commander in Chief?
5 (at re-election time it was 8+)
What actions by Bush in the last 5-6 years have you agreed with?
Tax cuts, taking the offensive TO the terrorists, Defense of Marriage, Judical Appointments.
What actions have you disagreed with?
Immigration, Unrestrained spending, Letting politicians fight the war rather than the generals/military, Allowing the treason of the left to go unchallenged.
Is your opinion of him more or less favorable now than it was a year ago?
Less favorable.
If there were another election tomorrow, would you vote for him?
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ThomasMore
07-12-2006, 11:09 PM
I'm curious about how everyone currently feels about the Bush Administration.

On a scale from 1-10, with 10 being the highest, how would you rate Bush's overall performance as our Commander in Chief?
As CINC, the purely military aspect, I rank GWB about an 8. He took courageous action following 9/11, and has made about as much progress as is possible considering the considerable international and domestic opposition he has had to overcome on what should be a no-brainer.

Not to say that there haven't been miscalculations and missed opportunities, but overall, he deserves credit.

What actions by Bush in the last 5-6 years have you agreed with?
1. Military action and most diplomatic moves.
2. Well-chosen and well-supported federal court nominees, excepting Harriet Miers.
3. Tax policy.
4. Trade policy, generally.
5. Open demonstrations of his Christian faith, and moral support for Christian organizations and private charity. This is not a prerequisite for the office, but it is both a Christian principle and a conservative one. Christians profess and demonstrate their faith. Conservatives (whether or not Christian) believe that the 1st Amendment permits freedom of religion and freedom of speech.

What actions have you disagreed with?
1. Failure to act adequately against illegal immigration.
2. Expansion of entitlements.
3. Refusal to veto bad legislation, regardless of the party from which it originates.
4. Lukewarm, belated responses to the press. It lets them set forth their agenda far too aggressively to the public.
5. Lukewarm campaigning for conservative candidates, and sellouts to senior RINOs. Bush, being a "good guy," is too ready to support the old lions who have power, instead of getting fresh blood.
6. Weak and belated addresses to the public. Granted that Bush is no Reagan when it comes to public speaking, but that doesn't mean he can't learn from the master. Even Bill Clinton, dishonest as he was, ran rings around GWB's performance in taking his case to the public.
7. Refusal to trim the government: see 2 and 3 above.

Is your opinion of him more or less favorable now than it was a year ago?
Marginally less favorable, but only marginally. With the experience in office, I had hoped that he would begin to deal more effectively with government entitlements and spending, and get his case out more effectively to the public. He has done neither.

At the same time, I recognize that after 5 years of wartime leadership and constant pummeling by the press, the man has to be exhausted.

If there were another election tomorrow, would you vote for him?
Against who? The short answer is most probably, and I can't imagine who I would prefer to vote for (unless there is some way to reanimate RWR, with his faculties intact).

I consider GWB perhaps the 2d best President in my lifetime. I am too young to recall Eisenhower, so he doesn't factor. Setting him aside, I consider Reagan and GWB the only presidents worth anything since FDR was in office, and I include FDR in the list of presidents who were worthless or destructive.

I will happily take GWB over any of these guys: Hill and/or Billy C, Jimmy the Small, Lyndon Baines Johnson, Jack Kennedy, Harry S Truman or Franklin Delano Roosevelt. Add anyone the Democrat party is likely to put in office, and my feelings don't change.

Beowulf
07-13-2006, 12:19 AM
On a scale from 1-10, with 10 being the highest, how would you rate Bush's overall performance as our Commander in Chief?
I'd say a 5.

What actions by Bush in the last 5-6 years have you agreed with?
Tax cuts, the war on terror and his Supreme Court nominees.

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-His frivelous spending
-Hastily planned prescription drug bill.
-Immigration.
-Pandering to foreign interests. (giving the Palestinians $50 million in aid, kissing the ass of Vicente Fox)
-Not making government smaller.

Is your opinion of him more or less favorable now than it was a year ago?
Less.

If there were another election tomorrow, would you vote for him?
No.

Naturalized-Texan
07-13-2006, 09:46 AM
How anyone can rate President Bush below 8 or 9 as Commander-in-Chief is waaayyy beyond my ability to comprehend. His leadership in the War on Terror has been exemplary and certainly worthy of at least an 8 or 9, preferably a 10.

Beowulf
07-13-2006, 11:06 AM
How anyone can rate President Bush below 8 or 9 as Commander-in-Chief is waaayyy beyond my ability to comprehend. His leadership in the War on Terror has been exemplary and certainly worthy of at least an 8 or 9, preferably a 10.

Then that makes him a one-issue President, NT. On that subject, I would give him a high mark but I'm looking at the whole picture. I don't judge candidates or elected officials solely on one-issue as there are alot of things I consider important for someone who is to represent me.

dcanner
07-13-2006, 02:14 PM
On a scale from 1-10, with 10 being the highest, how would you rate Bush's overall performance as our Commander in Chief?
8.5
What actions by Bush in the last 5-6 years have you agreed with?
1. Tough stand on terror
2. defense of marriage
3. tax cuts (mostly)
4. Supreme Court picks
5. Faith-based charities
6. outstanding cabinet picks
7. social security reform
8. kept us out of Kyoto
9. Iraq (kinda) etc.
10. besides all that, he's a man of firm conviction and character. That right there covers a multitude of failings. can't think of any more right now
What actions have you disagreed with?
1. mushy immigration policy
2. still not convinced the Iraq War was 100% necessary, but since we're there let's be committed.
3. Molly coddling Muslims (but I understand why he does it--got to at least appear friendly to the world)
Is your opinion of him more or less favorable now than it was a year ago?
same
If there were another election tomorrow, would you vote for him?
yep yep

Curious why Longhorn doesn't like the "No Child Left Behind" thing....

Naturalized-Texan
07-13-2006, 02:23 PM
Then that makes him a one-issue President, NT. On that subject, I would give him a high mark but I'm looking at the whole picture. I don't judge candidates or elected officials solely on one-issue as there are alot of things I consider important for someone who is to represent me.
However, the question was to rate Bush as Commander-in-Chief, not overall as President. If the question had been to rate him overall as President, I would have rated him as a 6 or 7. However, I rated him as a 10 as Commander-in-Chief and I don't see how anyone could have rated him lower than an 8 or 9 as Commander-in-Chief.

Longhorn_Platinum
07-13-2006, 02:30 PM
dcanner:
Curious why Longhorn doesn't like the "No Child Left Behind" thing....

:unsmile: Education works best when the students are held accountable for their mistakes. Nickel-B blames the adults for the students's mistakes. Instead of leaving no child behind, we should be leaving scores of them behind. The ones who refuse to do homework, the ones who refuse to study for tests, the ones who skip class, the ones who disrupt class, &c., &c., &c.,... The overwhelming majority of students will shape up, if they know that they will pay the price for their actions.

dcanner
07-13-2006, 02:45 PM
:unsmile: Education works best when the students are held accountable for their mistakes. Nickel-B blames the adults for the students's mistakes. Instead of leaving no child behind, we should be leaving scores of them behind. The ones who refuse to do homework, the ones who refuse to study for tests, the ones who skip class, the ones who disrupt class, &c., &c., &c.,... The overwhelming majority of students will shape up, if they know that they will pay the price for their actions.

Gee, I didn't know it was having that effect. I thought there were higher standards now than before. Thanks for your perspective as a teacher. :thumb:

Longhorn_Platinum
07-13-2006, 03:12 PM
dcanner:
I thought there were higher standards now than before.

:unsmile: No, we're just teaching to the test more.

Maggie_T
07-14-2006, 10:32 AM
:unsmile: Education works best when the students are held accountable for their mistakes. Nickel-B blames the adults for the students's mistakes. Instead of leaving no child behind, we should be leaving scores of them behind. The ones who refuse to do homework, the ones who refuse to study for tests, the ones who skip class, the ones who disrupt class, &c., &c., &c.,... The overwhelming majority of students will shape up, if they know that they will pay the price for their actions.



Oh, thank you for saying that, Moo. :claps: If only the morons in education would realize that.

Then again, if they did, they would not be lefties and they would teach, not indoctrinate. Can't have that.

Longhorn_Platinum
07-14-2006, 10:54 AM
:unsmile: Thanks, Maggie. And let me add that I'm sick of hearing that we would have a better education system, if we lengthened the school year, or if we would adopt teaching methods that force students to figure things out for themselves, just like the Japanese do. Or if we could adopt various practices of other nations. The one thing those other nations do that we won't is, when students refuse to meet expectations, they are shown the door. Oh, but here, we can't leave any student behind, not even the "student" whose greatest accomplishment is spreading his excrement on the bathroom mirrors (ask Riverboat) or the auditorium stage (ask me... or better still, don't get me started).

omegatrump
07-14-2006, 10:56 AM
I'd call him a 2 or 3

So far his supreme court justices haven't defaulted to badly, (no thanks to him).

I disagree with his entire agenda to dismantle America. Borders, Immigration, SPP, transferring of jobs and technology, his terminology of classifying the enemy as "a great religion of peace", etc. etc. etc.

My opinion of him has remained fairly constant. He is not now, nor has he ever been a conservative. He is exactly the same man today that he was when he was first elected.

No vote from me, I am still stinging over the first time I voted for him.

omegatrump
07-14-2006, 11:05 AM
As military commander he deserves credit for how well Iraq and Afghanistan went. But then, what GOOD military commander orders the military to fight with their hands tied, makes alliances with the very people he claims to be fighting, spreads the enemy's propoganda for them, and then offers bribes to them if they will lay low?

Bush would have gotten an 8 after Iraq was liberated. But instead of continuing the war and going after the NEXT Terrorist nation, the WOT was abandoned and it became the war for Iraqi Democracy. He began telling Israel, the people actually fighting the WOT, to quit it; talking up the "religion of peace"; and making business deals and alliances with Terrorist and Terrorist supporting states (Pakistan, UAE, SA, etc...).

If, instead of driving towards Germany, Patton had instead swung South, liberated mediteranian France, and then spent the next five years lounging on the beach, no one would claim he was a good general. That is what Bush has done.

Correct!

True Grace
07-14-2006, 11:12 AM
Oh, but here, we can't leave any student behind, not even the "student" whose greatest accomplishment is spreading his excrement on the bathroom mirrors (ask Riverboat) or the auditorium stage (ask me... or better still, don't get me started).

....or the choir room (ask my husband).

Naturalized-Texan
07-14-2006, 01:29 PM
:unsmile: Thanks, Maggie. And let me add that I'm sick of hearing that we would have a better education system, if we lengthened the school year, or if we would adopt teaching methods that force students to figure things out for themselves, just like the Japanese do. Or if we could adopt various practices of other nations. The one thing those other nations do that we won't is, when students refuse to meet expectations, they are shown the door. Oh, but here, we can't leave any student behind, not even the "student" whose greatest accomplishment is spreading his excrement on the bathroom mirrors (ask Riverboat) or the auditorium stage (ask me... or better still, don't get me started).
You are making a blanket statement that is not always true. For example, there were several students in our granddaughter's 2nd grade in Texas City who will be repeating 2nd grade next year.

Rhino
07-14-2006, 01:37 PM
I don't think he intended to say it was always true everywhere. It does happen though, and more than most realize. In fact, when I wanted my son held back one year because he couldn't do the work, the school flatly refused. He has suffered ever since.

Timberwolf
07-14-2006, 02:25 PM
How anyone can rate President Bush below 8 or 9 as Commander-in-Chief is waaayyy beyond my ability to comprehend. His leadership in the War on Terror has been exemplary and certainly worthy of at least an 8 or 9, preferably a 10.
It is EXACTLY his performance as CiC that keeps him AT a 5...without that, he'd be far lower based upon entitlement spending alone.

Timberwolf
07-14-2006, 02:30 PM
However, the question was to rate Bush as Commander-in-Chief, not overall as President. If the question had been to rate him overall as President, I would have rated him as a 6 or 7. However, I rated him as a 10 as Commander-in-Chief and I don't see how anyone could have rated him lower than an 8 or 9 as Commander-in-Chief.
You are absolutely right, Tex...my bad.

As such, he most certainly DOES rate an 8.

Longhorn_Platinum
07-14-2006, 03:42 PM
Naturalized-Texan:
You are making a blanket statement that is not always true. For example, there were several students in our granddaughter's 2nd grade in Texas City who will be repeating 2nd grade next year.

:unsmile: There's a huge difference between retaining 2nd graders; & allowing a 17-year-old boy, who's in the 9th grade for the third consecutive year, making straight Fs, vandalizing the school, selling drugs, & disrupting classes at every turn, to remain in school.