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Antigone
07-13-2006, 03:29 PM
Be careful what you wish for Valerie baby. Discovery is gonna be a real beotch for you and your hubby Joe.
Plame sues White House figures over CIA leak
Former CIA officer and husband file lawsuit against Cheney, Libby, Rove
Updated: 22 minutes ago
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WASHINGTON - The CIA officer whose identity was leaked to reporters sued Vice President Dick Cheney, his former top aide and presidential adviser Karl Rove on Thursday, accusing them and other White House officials of conspiring to destroy her career.
In a lawsuit filed in U.S. District Court, Valerie Plame and her husband, Joseph Wilson, a former U.S. ambassador, accused Cheney, Rove and I. Lewis “Scooter” Libby of revealing Plame’s CIA identity in seeking revenge against Wilson for criticizing the Bush administration’s motives in Iraq.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/13845613
Lubbock
07-13-2006, 04:04 PM
That was the exact first thought that came to mind, Anti!
This is WONDERFUL news!
Discovery!
I can't wait until a battery of lawyers representing Libby and Cheney start taking Depositions!
Barnum & Bailey come to town.
This pair of Pretenders just don't know what they're in for.
Foquet
07-13-2006, 04:14 PM
Hopefully weird sexual toys will turn up via this investigation.
Antigone
07-13-2006, 04:20 PM
Geez, I think I'd rather not know about that part Foquet!!
But I do see this as something that Valerie and Joe haven't really thought through. If they think they are going to be calling the shots, they are mistaken. They aren't the only one's who get to ask questions, and if they think the softball accusations and questions they got from the liberal media are the extent of what will come up in this suit, they better think again. You can bet if this even gets to the discovery phase, lawyers for Cheney, Rove and Libby are gonna eat then alive. They will look like the total idiots they are. I see the Dems are lining up with the checkbooks out to contribute to their "legal fund" they have set up. You know what they say about fools and their money.
Foquet
07-13-2006, 04:22 PM
It will also suck when their checkbooks are opened and the word "Nigeria" shows up via their receipts.
Payback is a bitch.
DesertFox
07-13-2006, 04:33 PM
These idiots, like all liberals, mistake the Bush Administration's good manners -- refusal to go there when the Left gets petty and insipid -- as admission of guilt.
Antigone
07-13-2006, 04:50 PM
The docs are on the smoking gun already. Reads just like a Vanity Fair article!! LOL! :rotflmbo:
"They invaded my privacy, I can't find a job because of all the publicity!"
Yeah, Valerie, they made you talk to all the mags and forced you to sit for all those photo shoots you got paid for. :rolleyes:
http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/0713062plame1.html
Lubbock
07-13-2006, 05:10 PM
Novak is also going to have to reaise his right hand and swear to tell the truth --there is no shield law in civil cases.
Novak said he learned in Who's Who that Plame was employed by the CIA. He said that, then slid over it when he was being interviewed by Brit Hume. I guess we'll see what Novak says under oath. If Plame's name was indeed listed in Who's Who and identified as working for the CIA, there is only one source that could have come from: Joe Wilson.
Judge No Forehead Napalitano [on FOX, and whom I don't like at all] said the suit is feathers and mirrors, and what Wilson/Plame are really hacked off about is that Fitzgerald didn't indict anyone other than Libby, and that wasn't for "outing" Plame.
Bottom line: how many farmers in Iowa do you really think care one whit about this? It's an inside the Beltway kerfuffle, and other than hard-core political watchers [like the ones who gather here], the general populatin could give a rat's patootie less.
I can't wait to hear Victoria Toensung weigh in on this. She is the authority.
Foquet
07-13-2006, 05:16 PM
This case is the equal of saying I have an ear hair growing out of my left testicle.
That we are even still talking about it shows the incest that is the MSM.
P'Tah.
Antigone
07-13-2006, 05:21 PM
Novak is also going to have to reaise his right hand and swear to tell the truth --there is no shield law in civil cases.
Novak said he learned in Who's Who that Plame was employed by the CIA. He said that, then slid over it when he was being interviewed by Brit Hume. I guess we'll see what Novak says under oath. If Plame's name was indeed listed in Who's Who and identified as working for the CIA, there is only one source that could have come from: Joe Wilson.
Judge No Forehead Napalitano [on FOX, and whom I don't like at all] said the suit is feathers and mirrors, and what Wilson/Plame are really hacked off about is that Fitzgerald didn't indict anyone other than Libby, and that wasn't for "outing" Plame.
Bottom line: how many farmers in Iowa do you really think cares one whit about this? It's an inside the Beltway kerfuffle, and other than hard-core political watchers [like the ones who gather here], the general populatin could give a rat's patootie less.
I can't wait to hear Victoria Toensung weigh in on this. She is the authority.
Oh it was in Who's Who alright. Here is the entry:
http://wizbangblog.com/images/2005/josephwilson_whoswho-thumb.jpg
http://wizbangblog.com/2005/10/27/plamegate-plame-name-no-secret.php
And you are right, nobody except the Wilson's and the rabid liberals really care about this. The only reason I talk about it is to laugh at the newest stupid human trick Joe and Valerie come up with. :D
They are some pretty cheap entertainment, let me tell you!
Foquet
07-13-2006, 05:24 PM
Who's Who?
Jesus, my Dad was in that cheap book going back 30 years. It is as unimpressive as yesterday's cat litter.
Antigone
07-13-2006, 05:26 PM
Yeah, and you get to PAY for the priviledge of having your information in there. LOL!
Foquet
07-13-2006, 05:30 PM
Pretty much......
I might still have the 1977-1978 edition of that lying around here. Hell, even my sorry ass at 12 years old was named.
Antigone
07-13-2006, 05:33 PM
I received the famous "Congratulations, you've been selected........" letter in my senior year of high school. I laughed about it THEN. :)
Foquet
07-13-2006, 05:34 PM
With or without a beer in hand? :D
Antigone
07-13-2006, 05:38 PM
Without. I don't like beer. But keep me away from the margaritas!!
Every year the senior class would send a few people out to get the Christmas tree we set up in the cafeteria. The guys came back with a huge tree and decorated it with all the beer cans they emptied while performing the task. The principal make them take them off, but they got a picture for the annual! Those were the days!
Foquet
07-13-2006, 06:08 PM
I hope they peed in another place..as opposed to under the tree itself.
Naturalized-Texan
07-13-2006, 06:31 PM
Novak said he learned in Who's Who that Plame was employed by the CIA.
It doesn't appear that the Who's Who blurb mentioned that she worked for the CIA. All Novak said was that he learned her name from that Who's Who blurb. He had already learned that she worked for the CIA from his unnamed prime source. BTW, Fitzgerald already knew the name of Novak's prime source before Novak even testified.
Lubbock
07-13-2006, 06:52 PM
You're right as rain, NT. Novak first learned she was CIA, and later her name from Who's Who. I kept reading and rereading what Anti posted, and no where does it mention that Plame is/was CIA [does anyone know if she's still meployed there?].
Foquet
07-13-2006, 06:57 PM
The Greatest Non-Scandal that we have seen in the Modern Political History.
Knowing that Plame was a CIA employee is as secret as Hillary having a penis.
Lubbock
07-13-2006, 07:01 PM
Andrea Mitchell is going to get put under oath, too. You watch. She said on day one of this controversy, many, many moons ago, that everyone in Washington knew Plame worked for the CIA; Joe Wilson wore it like a badge of honor.
The "outing" allegation is only part of the suit. The other allegation is "smear and ruin" and "put her life in danger".
That's where the suit will get dismissed.
But . . . this thing will drag on into the fall election before dismissal, and the Dems will wear it like a badge.
Naturalized-Texan
07-13-2006, 07:05 PM
I kept reading and rereading what Anti posted, and no where does it mention that Plame is/was CIA [does anyone know if she's still meployed there?].
Former CIA Officer Sues Cheney Over Leak (http://apnews.myway.com/article/20060713/D8IRAPEO8.html)
I guess that headline answers your question.
Lubbock
07-13-2006, 07:12 PM
I doubt seriously if her "former" status has anything to do with the ones named in the suit. I suspect it has more to do with her government retirement being vested, and the retirement income being supplemented with the huge wads of cash she and Joe recieved from Vanity Fair for the puff piece and pictures.
Not to mention the fact that she and Joe have their hands out to their Liberal friends and supporters, begging for funds for their "defense".
Defense?
When we got a look at the Depositions, we'll know what kind of an advance Joe got for the book of lies that he published
Lubbock
07-13-2006, 07:31 PM
Oh, and add to that, this bit of income:
Ex-CIA Officer Finds New Memoir Publisher
BY HILLEL ITALIE, AP National Writer
Thursday, July 13, 2006
Former CIA officer Valerie Plame, whose outing led to the indictment of a White House official, has agreed to write her memoirs for Simon & Schuster, weeks after a reported seven-figure deal with the Crown Publishing Group fell through.
"It will be a very interesting book by a key figure of our time," Simon & Schuster spokesman Adam Rothberg said Thursday.
Financial terms were not disclosed and no publication date has been set. In early May, Crown announced that it would publish Plame's book, but the two sides could not agree on a final contract.
Plame, the wife of former Ambassador Joseph Wilson, was a CIA operative whose identity was revealed after syndicated columnist Robert Novak named her in a column on July 14, 2003. Novak's column appeared eight days after Wilson alleged in an opinion piece in The New York Times that the administration had twisted prewar intelligence on Iraq to justify going to war.
http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2006/07/13/entertainment/e143734D56.DTL
And bear in mind, this is he AP reporting, so view it with a jaundiced eye as to the "outing".
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Bluemoon_Rising
07-13-2006, 07:51 PM
Shameless huskters.
Lubbock
07-13-2006, 08:51 PM
I'm posting these articles on this thread because they all pertain to the same subject. I don't see any reason to start a new thread for every article.
Free Scooter Libby!
From Investor's Business Daily
No Author credited
Posted 7/13/2006
Politics: Columnist Robert Novak has revealed how he learned about Valerie Plame's identity, which begs the question: Should a man go to prison for "obstructing" an investigation into a crime that was not committed?
Exactly one year ago today, July 14, 2005, we wrote about the Plame kerfuffle, speculating on the origins of the "revelation" in Novak's July 14, 2003, column that Bush critic Joe Wilson's wife, Valerie Plame, was a CIA employee. We wrote:
"Her name was certainly no secret, appearing in Wilson's 'Who's Who In America' entry."
In a column published Wednesday, Novak confirmed our observation, saying:
"I learned Valerie Plame's name from Joe Wilson's entry in 'Who's Who In America'."
Bingo. As we noted a year ago, so could everyone else, from foreign intelligence services to your nosy neighbor.
Novak also revealed the primary source for his Plame column:
"Joe Wilson's wife's role in instituting her husband's mission (to Niger) was revealed to me in the midst of an interview with an official who I have previously said was not a political gunslinger."
Novak said the unnamed official told him later through a third party that the revelation about "Wilson's wife" was "inadvertent."
Appearing on Fox News' "Hannity & Colmes" Wednesday evening, Novak said he contacted Karl Rove, in a conversation that lasted a mere 20 seconds, and then-CIA spokesman Bill Harlow, to confirm that "Wilson's wife" was a CIA employee. But none of Novak's sources mentioned her by name, nor did Harlow express any concern about Plame being put in harm's way by being "outed."
Novak wrote in his column that when he first spoke to Special Prosecutor Patrick Fitzgerald, he "knew the names of my sources." Speaking with Hannity, Novak made the further points that Fitzgerald knew Novak's sources for the length of his probe and that because no one had been indicted for revealing Plame's identity, Fitzgerald felt no crime had been committed.
Rest Of The Article:
http://www.investors.com/editorial/IBDArticles.asp?artsec=20&artnum=1&issue=20060713
Antigone
07-13-2006, 09:43 PM
The "outing" allegation is only part of the suit. The other allegation is "smear and ruin" and "put her life in danger".
If her life is in such danger, then maybe the stupid twit should stay off the frikkin' front page of every lefty mag that will have her and tell her kids to quit shouting in airports about how their mommy is a super secret spy. :rolleyes:
Lubbock
07-13-2006, 09:49 PM
I never thought I'd live to see a bigger pair of Grifters than Hill and Bill, but I believe Joe and Val are working on a photo phinish, and it may be Joe and Val by a nose.
Lubbock
07-14-2006, 07:04 AM
Plaming Out: Joe Wilson Jumps the Shark
By Jeffrey Lord
Published 7/14/2006 12:10:33 AMIn TV-land the moment is infamous.
One of the stars of the longtime hit TV series Happy Days, Arthur "The Fonz" Fonzerelli, played by Henry Winkler, is made to do something by the show's writers that was clearly designed to save the fading series from sinking ratings.
The something? The Fonz, on water skis, was forced to literally jump a shark. The episode not only failed to save the once popular series that also starred future director Ron Howard, "jumping the shark" became a Hollywood metaphor for the point at which a once believable premise became a caricature.
http://www.theamericanspectator.org/dsp_article.asp?art_id=10091
This is one of the best articles so far, and the first time I've heard Richard Armitage's name mentioned as the original "leaker".
ConspiracyBuff
07-14-2006, 07:52 AM
I hate to derail the thread, I'm sure though, you guys can get back to business...
I love Henry Winkler and not because of Happy Days....but because he created the best show of all time, and beyond a doubt the best show of my lifetime......the man they call Mac......MACGYVER!! hell yeah
hdmundt
07-14-2006, 08:22 AM
It appears that the Wilsons are looking to out Novak's primary source as well as promote the book. Note to Joe: the next time you feel the urge to make public your opinions, think about the possible consequences.... you brought the attention on yourself and your wife. There was no leak. (Aren't ambassadors and CIA employees supposed to be smarter than this)?
Rhino
07-14-2006, 09:05 AM
I know the text isn't complete, but I don't see where that Who's Who entry identifies her with the CIA. Isn't that the crux of their suit?
Lubbock
07-14-2006, 09:13 AM
No, Rhino, it was confusing. Novak got the word that Wilson's wife [unidentified by name] worked for the CIA, and had orchestrated the trip to Niger for Wilson. Novak then went to Who's Who and looked for Wilson's wife and found the name. Novak didn't say he found out in Who's Who that she was CIA --she had already been identified as CIA, but not by name.
It's confusing.
I originally thought, from Novak's statement ,that he had learned the CIA connection from Who's Who.
hdmundt
07-14-2006, 09:14 AM
I know the text isn't complete, but I don't see where that Who's Who entry identifies her with the CIA. Isn't that the crux of their suit?
Novak was told that Wilson's wife worked at CIA (he wasn't told her name). He did a little elementary research (in Who's Who) and discovered her name. If a judge lets this go to court, he/she should be booted off the bench. No secrecy, no leak, no case.
Antigone
07-14-2006, 09:19 AM
I doubt it will get to trial. She hyping for her new book IMHO.
DoctorDoom
07-14-2006, 09:29 AM
Knowing that Plame was a CIA employee is as secret as Hillary having a penis.Actually, there is strong evidence of that.
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Naturalized-Texan
07-14-2006, 09:38 AM
It appears that the Wilsons are looking to out Novak's primary source as well as promote the book. Note to Joe: the next time you feel the urge to make public your opinions, think about the possible consequences.... you brought the attention on yourself and your wife. There was no leak. (Aren't ambassadors and CIA employees supposed to be smarter than this)?
Novak is also saying that his primary source inavertently let it slip that Wilson's wife worked for the CIA.
Of course, long before Novak's column appeared, everyone on the DC cocktail circuit knew that Valerie Plame Wilson worked for the CIA. It was clearly not a secret. And she drove to work every day and parked openly in the CIA parking lot, something that no covert agent would ever do.
BTW, when I was working with IBM's litigation team doing discovery of government documents prior to the IBM anti-trust suit trial, I attended a meeting at CIA Headquarters. I was not a member of the discovery team at the CIA, however.
Antigone
07-14-2006, 09:54 AM
by Jim Kouri, CPP (http://www.theconservativevoice.com/category/171.html)
<!-- start.title --> Valerie Plame's Lawsuit Is a Huge Mistake...For Valerie Plame
<!-- end.title --> <!-- publish.date --> July 14, 2006 10:19 AM EST
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<!-- start.article-text --> I've said it once and I'll say it again: liberals make some really stupid decisions. It's because, for the most part, they act out of their emotions rather than from logic. A perfect example is a breaking news story that is part of the ongoing saga of the CIA Leak Case.
Media darlings ex-CIA analyst Valerie Plame and her husband Joe Wilson filed a lawsuit against Vice President Dick Cheney, top White House aide Karl Rove and others on Thursday for their role in the unproven allegation that they leaked her classified CIA status to the press.
The lawsuit claims that "a conspiracy among current and former high-level officials in the White House" to "discredit, punish and seek revenge" against Plame's husband, former Ambassador Joseph Wilson, for publicly disputing statements made by Bush justifying the war in Iraq. It was Wilson's statements, by the way, that the Senate Intelligence Committee said were created out of whole cloth.
http://www.theconservativevoice.com/article/16110.html
Lubbock
07-14-2006, 10:02 AM
GREAT ARTICLE, ANTI!!!
I love everything Jim Kouri writes, and he sure nailed this one.
" . . . Plame and Wilson colluded to hurt the Bush presidency for their left-wing friends, and expected their actions would not be exposed. Plame sent her husband, a Washington, DC fop, to investigate whether or not yellow-cake uranium in Niger was transported to Iraq prior to the war. Wilson, with no investigative or intelligence experience, came back to America and wrote his report on his trip... for the New York Times.
Of course, his real report to the Senate Intelligence Committee contradicted his NY Times op-ed, but that didn't matter to the Bush-haters, the America-bashers, and the antiwar activists who really aren't antiwar; their only anti-US victory. . . . "
DoctorDoom
07-14-2006, 10:04 AM
The Chicago Tribune says it has compiled a list of 2,653 CIA employees, just by searching the internet.
The newspaper said it gathered the information from online services that compile public data, that any fee-paying subscriber can access.
It did not publish the names, at the CIA's request. Many of the agents are believed to be covert. The paper also located two dozen "secret" facilities.
A CIA spokeswoman admitted the internet had scuppered some of its methods.Internet blows CIA agents' cover (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/4799174.stm)
Wanna bet that Plame is one of them?
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