Sudan's Dept of Gang Rape

[DesertFox]

Nicholas Kristof
Sudan Tribute
24 Nov 05


When the Arab men in military uniforms caught Noura Moussa and raped her the other day, they took the trouble to explain themselves.

"We cannot let black people live in this land," she remembers them telling her, and they used racial epithets against blacks, called her a slave, and added: "We can kill any members of African tribes."

Ms. Noura is one of thousands of women and girls to be gang-raped in Darfur, as part of what appears to be a deliberate Sudanese government policy to break the spirit of several African tribes through mass rape.

This policy is shrewd as well as brutal, for the exceptional stigma of rape here often silences victims even as it terrorizes the entire population and forces people to flee.

Ms. Noura, 22, expected to be married soon, and the neighbors said she probably would have received a bride price of 30 cows. These days, they say, she will be lucky to find any husband at all - and will not get a single cow. ...

Arifa Muhammad, 25, told of being caught by 10 men as she planted okra to have a little more food for her three children. One of the men said, "I know you are Zaghawa, so we will rape you." Afterward, they beat her with the butts of their guns.

The very next day, Saida Abdukarim, also 25, was tending her vegetables when three men with guns seized her. She pleaded with them, pointing out that she is eight months’ pregnant.

"They said, ’You are black, and so we can rape you,’ " she recalled. Then they gang-raped her and beat her with sticks and their guns. She absorbed the beating, trying to protect her unborn baby, and although she was too battered to walk, she has so far not miscarried.

More (http://www.sudantribune.com/article.php3?id_article=12702)

[Bluemoon_Rising]

:flame:

I don't have the words.

[BuckeyeMike]

I'm sure the U effen N will draw up a rezohloooshun in real short order... that'll put a stop to this....maybe even a BINDING rezohlooshun....oooooooooooo.......they are aware of these atrocities.....aren't they? Oh yeah, I forgot, they're really busy right now beating the U.S. over the head for their mistreatment of our poor and blacks to get involved yet....one thing at a time you know....silly me.

Second thougth though..........maybe it's best they don't get involved.......they'd probably participate in the rapings.

[Longhorn_Platinum]

Bluemoon_Rising:
:flame:

I don't have the words.

:unsmile: "Cut off their dicks."

[BuckeyeMike]

Nail their dicks to a tree stump
Set fire to the stump
Hand them a rusty knife

[kkkron]

Nah it'd be too easy with a knife. Just make them rip it off.

[MSGT]

Nah,

Step 1} Bind them to the ground in a pig pen.

Step 2} Don't feed the pigs.

[kkkron]

Would pigs eat humans?

[MSGT]

pigs will eat each other

[kkkron]

Whatever it takes!

[Oolon Coluphid]

Would pigs eat humans?

Ahem!

You're always gonna have problems lifting a body in one piece. Apparently the best thing to do is cut up a corpse into six pieces and pile it all together.

And when you got your six pieces, you gotta get rid of them, because it's no good leaving it in the deep freeze for your mum to discover, now is it? Then I hear the best thing to do is feed them to pigs. You got to starve the pigs for a few days, then the sight of a chopped-up body will look like curry to a pisshead. You gotta shave the heads of your victims, and pull the teeth out for the sake of the piggies' digestion. You could do this afterwards, of course, but you don't want to go sievin' through pig shit, now do you? They will go through bone like butter. You need at least sixteen pigs to finish the job in one sitting, so be wary of any man who keeps a pig farm. They will go through a body that weighs 200 pounds in about eight minutes. That means that a single pig can consume two pounds of uncooked flesh every minute. Hence the expression, "as greedy as a pig".

[Wolfcounsel]

I like the pig idea. I think Kofi Anus should volunteer to see how long it takes Sudanese pigs to eat a scumbag.

I suspect there could be a "secret" group formed in Sudan, whose objective will be to mutilate the genitals of every rapist they catch. They will also be hard to stop, because for every innocent person killed in retaliation, 20 of the assholes will be mutilated and killed, innocent or otherwise. And so on and so on. United Nations "workers" will be favorites to catch.:evilgrin:

[omegatrump]

Would pigs eat humans?

Don't ever fall down in a pig pen full of hungry pigs. They can't turn their head sideways very far to get a hold on your leg but if your laying flat on the ground you won't last long. I know a guy who used to feed his pigs dead animals like cows and what ever. Up in Canada a pig farmer fed his pigs whores he picked up in vancouver.

I think the pig idea is terrific. I think club gitmo should start a pig farm.

[omegatrump]

Ahem!

You're always gonna have problems lifting a body in one piece. Apparently the best thing to do is cut up a corpse into six pieces and pile it all together
Why not just use a front end loader with a four yard bucket, you can handle 20 or so at once. We need thousands of pigs.

[Eagle1]

Second thougth though..........maybe it's best they don't get involved.......they'd probably participate in the rapings.

you got that right, i think it is the congo where the un is the one doing the raping

[Beowulf]

And after Rwanda, the U.N. vowed never to let genocide and crimes like this to ever take place again. Well, Kofi, glad that you stuck to your word as you are too busy trying to pry guns away from people and attacking U.S. diplomacy while you allow thousands to die and be tortured and embarrassed in the Darfur region.

[DesertFox]

Just find the perps and shoot them.

[Wyatt_Junker]

Does the Dept. of Gang Rape have uniforms? Because I know the Dept. of Home Invasions does, plus they get DHI Econo Vans.

[DesertFox]

It's a secret club. They all wear the same velcro-fastened bandana under their caps, and under their shirts a black t-shirt with a brilliant red-and-blue R stenciled on the front. To get to wear either of these one must give the password and the secret handshake, and have "Allahu akhbar!!!" with three exclamation marks, tattooed on the head of his rape rod.

[MSGT]

Just find the perps and shoot them.I agree, just the thought of a moslem being eating by a pig:biggrin:, and the fact that it would take some time before the pig started eating:biggrin:.

Now thats terror.

[Wolfcounsel]

Train the pigs to say, "Allahu Akbar!" before they start eating.

[Aussie]

I was watching an American news program a year ago...they had Dick Cheney on. The interviewer was asking him if he thought America had done enough to stem the genocide in Darfur. Mr Cheney said yes.

Since the US doesn't seem to trust the UN anymore, why didn't the US send some military forces to Darfur and put an end to the pre-meditated murder and rape of thousands of people, resulting in the murder or starvation of 300,000 + people? Everyone knew the Sudanese government was behind it all. The Janjaweed were a pack of animals on a bunch of pick up trucks. A multinational force could have easily, easily crushed them.

[MSGT]

A multinational force could have easily, easily crushed them.Then get a multinational force and stop putting everything in the world at America's feet.

[BuckeyeMike]

I was watching an American news program a year ago...they had Dick Cheney on. The interviewer was asking him if he thought America had done enough to stem the genocide in Darfur. Mr Cheney said yes.

Since the US doesn't seem to trust the UN anymore, why didn't the US send some military forces to Darfur and put an end to the pre-meditated murder and rape of thousands of people, resulting in the murder or starvation of 300,000 + people?

Why didn't Australia?

Everyone knew the Sudanese government was behind it all. The Janjaweed were a pack of animals on a bunch of pick up trucks. A multinational force could have easily, easily crushed them./

[Aussie]

African Union peacekeepers are already there, but there's still fighting.

At a UN donor conference in Brussels (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brussels), Assistant Secretary for African Affairs Jendayi Frazer (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jendayi_Frazer) stated that the United States would not fund the AU peacekeeping force past September 2006. This caused consternation amongst the anti-genocide movements in the United States,[16] (http://www.genocideintervention.net/about/press/releases/2006/07/19/united-states-fails-to-support-peacekeepers-in-darfur/) as the UN peacekeeping force would be deployed at the earliest in January 2007.<sup class="reference" id="_ref-15">[63] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_response_to_the_Darfur_conflict#_not e-15)</sup>
At the same conference, eight humanitarian groups, including CARE International (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CARE_International), Islamic Relief (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_Relief) and Oxfam International, insisted that AU troops in Darfur were bound to fail unless funding was dramatically increased.<sup class="reference" id="_ref-16">[64] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_response_to_the_Darfur_conflict#_not e-16)</sup>
On July 31, UN Secretary-General Kofi Annan (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kofi_Annan) proposed a UN peacekeeping force of roughly 24,000 for Darfur. In Annan's proposal, about 5,300 international police officers would deploy initially, followed by the main UN force.<sup class="reference" id="_ref-17">[65] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_response_to_the_Darfur_conflict#_not e-17)</sup>


America is the only country in the world that has the capability for force-projection around the world. If America had taken the lead, hordes of countries would have flocked to America's cause. Instead, the US is only now getting a move on, and that's through the UN. Ironic isn't it? You guys criticise the UN, but turn to the UN when military force isn't optional (because of the war in Iraw and Afgahanistan).

[Aussie]

Why didn't Australia?Australia doesn't have carriers. We can't well swim there can we? The US is the most powerful nation on Earth. It is the only one that can cajole and pressure other countries (like the reluctant African Union) into actually doing something.

[MSGT]

Australia doesn't have carriers. Nobodys got a freaking boat.

[Aussie]

Nobody has a boat that can go all the way over to Africa. Nobody has movable airfields. Australia doesn't have airfields in Africa. Australia doesn't have allies in Africa. Australia doesn't have the capability to move troops to Africa.

America does. It's the perfect job for a multinational peacekeeping force led by America.

[MSGT]

America is the only country in the world that has the capability for force-projection around the world. Do you mean the rest of the world put together can't kill some guys in pickups?

If America had taken the lead, hordes of countries would have flocked to America's cause.I've never seen hordes flocking. I seen agendas get pushed through and that takes lots of money.

Instead, the US is only now getting a move on, and that's through the UN. Ironic isn't it? I do wish they were killing these monsters long ago but you gotta pick your fights. Theres just too damn many bad guys.

We are the only thing that gives the UN teeth and legitimacy. We prop it up so we can use it when needed.

[DesertFox]

Since the US doesn't seem to trust the UN anymore, why didn't the US send some military forces to Darfur and put an end to the pre-meditated murder and rape of thousands of people, resulting in the murder or starvation of 300,000 + people? Everyone knew the Sudanese government was behind it all. The Janjaweed were a pack of animals on a bunch of pick up trucks. A multinational force could have easily, easily crushed them.Simply put, because the Democrats and drive-by media (same thing) would go berserko, the UN would go berserko, France and Germany would go berserko, the whole focking world would go berserko, screaming "racism!" and "genocide!" without conscience -- and our president doesn't have the balls or, frankly, the political strength to do it. You're prolly too young to remember how Bush got crucified in the press for even daring to identify the Axis of Evil. He was spot-on, and that was a trial balloon to see how far he could go in dealing with these despots and lunatics, and he still, to this day, gets fried for having the effrontery to call evil by its right name.

Unfortunately, the appeasers have too strong a hand in today's world. America, the only superpower, is tied down like Gulliver by the Lilliputians, both within America and outside it. Only Tony Blair, your own PM and those of Eastern Europe stand by Bush when he talks tough.

[MSGT]

Simply put, because the Democrats and drive-by media (same thing) would go berserko, the UN would go berserko, France and Germany would go berserko, the whole focking world would go berserko, screaming "racism!" and "genocide!" without conscience -- and our president doesn't have the balls or, frankly, the political strength to do it. You're prolly too young to remember how Bush got crucified in the press for even daring to identify the Axis of Evil. He was spot-on, and that was a trial balloon to see how far he could go in dealing with these despots and lunatics, and he still, to this day, gets fried for having the effrontery to call evil by its right name.

Unfortunately, the appeasers have too strong a hand in today's world. America, the only superpower, is tied down like Gulliver by the Lilliputians, both within America and outside it. Only Tony Blair, your own PM and those of Eastern Europe stand by Bush when he talks tough.Well said.

[Aussie]

Do you mean the rest of the world put together can't kill some guys in pickups? Not if we can't physically get there first. :sad:

I've never seen hordes flocking. I seen agendas get pushed through and that takes lots of money.Countries want to be seen in a good light. Kick off the 'stop the genocide' bandwagon, and you'll be rolling in requests from countries you haven't heard from in 20 years.

I do wish they were killing these monsters long ago but you gotta pick your fights. Theres just too damn many bad guys. Isn't that the truth.

We are the only thing that gives the UN teeth and legitimacy. We prop it up so we can use it when needed.Why didn't you guys use the UN sooner? So many needless deaths.

[MSGT]

Not if we can't physically get there first. :sad:So, only America has international flights and international shipping?

Countries want to be seen in a good light. Kick off the 'stop the genocide' bandwagon, and you'll be rolling in requests from countries you haven't heard from in 20 years.No they don't. They want money. France, Russia and China opposed the war with Iraq because they were making money on 'oil for food'.

[DeclinetoState]

The UN Commission on Human Rights must get involved! Here are its members (http://www.unhchr.ch/html/menu2/2/chrmem.htm) (and, I guess, the years their respective terms expire):

2005

1. Argentina 2005
2. Armenia 2007
3. Australia 2005
4. Bhutan 2006
5. Brazil 2005
6. Burkina Faso 2005
7. Canada 2007
8. China 2005
9. Congo 2006
10. Costa Rica 2006
11. Cuba 2006
12. Dominican Republic 2006
13. Ecuador 2007
14. Egypt 2006
15. Eritrea 2006
16. Ethiopia 2006
17. Finland 2007
18. France 2007
19. Gabon 2005
20. Germany 2005
21. Guatemala 2006
22. Guinea 2007
23. Honduras 2006
24. Hungary 2006
25. India 2006
26. Indonesia 2006
27. Ireland 2005
28. Italy 2006
29. Japan 2005
30. Kenya 2007
31. Malaysia 2007
32. Mauritania 2006
33. Mexico 2007
34. Nepal 2006
35. Netherlands 2006
36. Nigeria 2006
37. Pakistan 2007
38. Paraguay 2005
39. Peru 2006
40. Qatar 2006
41. Republic of Korea 2007
42. Romania 2007
43. Russian Federation 2006
44. Saudi Arabia 2006
45. South Africa 2006
46. Sri Lanka 2005
47. Sudan 2007
48. Swaziland 2005
49. Togo 2007
50. Ukraine 2005
51. United Kingdom 2006
52. United States of America 2005
53. Zimbabwe 2005

Emphasis added

[Aussie]

So, only America has international flights and international shipping? So you want to pack our troops into shipping crates and 747s? What about the logistics? Where do we operate out from?

No they don't. They want money. France, Russia and China opposed the war with Iraq because they were making money on 'oil for food'.Britain and France would have joined in. France has interests in Africa. See the Ivory Coast.

The UN Commission on Human Rights must get involved! Here are its members (http://www.unhchr.ch/html/menu2/2/chrmem.htm) (and, I guess, the years their respective terms expire):And? Must every thread turn into UN bashing? Yes, we all know that the UN isn't good. There, we got it over with. Now say something constructive.

[MSGT]

It seems you want to argue just for the sake of argument.

[Lazarus]

Aussie, Im ever amazed at the utter self-righteous arrogance of those non-Americans who are quick to offer up American blood and money to solve the ugly situations around that world that offend them...

This argumant that Austalia doesnt have the military capcity for the job is pure BS... Australia has the cpacit to do whatever the hell Australia thinks needs doing... If you are short on transportation services, you can buy them from any number of US, Russian, or Greek shipping companies...

Time to grow up, Aussie... Take off your self-righteous mantle and take responsibility for the things you think should be done - The US is not at your beck and call to be your international bully boy...

[Lazarus]

So you want to pack our troops into shipping crates and 747s? What about the logistics? Where do we operate out from?Shall we send you a manual so you can learn how modern warfare is carried out? I didnt know that Australia had become so impotent... Are there no MEN in Australia who know the art of war?

No, we all know what the score is on that issue... The "civilized" nations of the world contribute to world peace and security by being "on watch" for nasty situations to pop up... Its not necessary to maintain a military with a global reach because you always have the US to carry the garbage out...

You dont even have to maintain a large enough military force to protect your own nation because the US will always come to your defense if some meanie attacks you... War is too ugly a business to expend Australian lives on - But US lives are just worthless enough to spend on whatever crisis you watchdogs happen to spy...:flame:

Britain and France would have joined in. France has interests in Africa. See the Ivory Coast...So France would have joined because they have interests in Africa... IOW France wont join because innocent people are being murdered and women being raped... There has to be a financial incentive for the French to become involved... Yeah that's an ally I want standing beside me - When the cash incentive runs out, so does France...

Again, why didnt - why DOESNT - Australia take the lead on this "adventure"?

If you're not prepared to take the lead and risk the lives of your brothers and fathers and children to "right the wrongs" of the world, then shut the f*** up... We in the US are sick of hearing your arrogant bleating...

[kkkron]

America has a LOT more power than Australia. You yourselves are very proud of the fact that America is the world's greatest superpower. Therefore, America is a much more logical nation to lead a multinational force into any country. If America was to start a fight, more nations would join with it than if Australia was to start a fight. Also, Australia is just so damn remote.

[ConspiracyBuff]

America has a LOT more power than Australia. You yourselves are very proud of the fact that America is the world's greatest superpower. Therefore, America is a much more logical nation to lead a multinational force into any country. <!-- / message -->

Yeah we are proud that we aren't a country ruined by a bunch of socialist, coward, ass kissers. What do you know about Americans kid?Kronic once again you missed the point. All you non-Americans offer up American lives to take care of the woes of the world. Instead of having some integrity and asking the same questions of your own government you cowardly point your little fingers at America, one of the few nations left doing good in the world and say, send the troops. You say, why don't you do something? Why don't you do something asswipe? Your country is just as capable of doing something about the problem in Sudan. Why must it be up to America to right every wrong and kill every enemy whilst sacrificing the lives of our bravest people. Why don't you guys grow a pair and stop acting like a bunch of wussies who cry to daddy (America) every time you see a problem in the world that needs fixing and actually do something yourselves.

If America was to start a fight, more nations would join with it than if Australia was to start a fight. Also, Australia is just so damn remote.<!-- / message -->
What are you some sort of psychic now? How can you be so sure? You mean to tell me America is the only force capable of putting together a multi national team to send to Sudan?OK. WTF does it matter that Australia is remote? GB isn't so remote now is it.

Just remember when you point your skinny little finger that three fingers are pointing right back at you.

[kkkron]

Three fingers? Kronic?

Anyway, it's not like Britain isn't doing anything. I see Britain's failure to act just as bad as America's, although to quote someone else 'there are just too many bad guys out there'. I was just clarifying Aussie's point. It isn't such a bad point either, you have to admit the USA would have more support and power starting a force than Australia. I don't think that America is bad for not doing anything, even though nobody else is doing anything, I think that America would be the most successful in starting a campaign. Britain would probably come in second, but everyone's just too preoccupied with the Middle East.

[ConspiracyBuff]

Oh and in case you didn't know it Kronic and Aussie:
The United States is the largest international donor in Sudan, consistently providing 80 percent of all humanitarian assistance-and more than $1 billion since 2005.
http://www.usaid.gov/locations/sub-saharan_africa/sudan/index.html

[ConspiracyBuff]

Three fingers? Kronic?

Think about it harder. You point index finger out, that leaves ring, middle and pinky pointed back at you. The thumb is pointed down usually. Also the tumb isnt considerd a finger.

Kronic cause you smoke too much weed.

[kkkron]

OK ConspiracyGuff (don't laugh, you come up with something better), so the USA aren't doing nothing to help the people. They're actually doing a fair bit. But if the aid is going to a corrupt govt., then what's the point as it more than likely isn't applied well.

[kkkron]

Think about it harder. You point index finger out, that leaves ring, middle and pinky pointed back at you. The thumb is pointed down usually. Also the tumb isnt considerd a finger.

Kronic cause you smoke too much weed.

Oh, I thought you meant three other people would be pointing the finger at me.

[ConspiracyBuff]

LOL. Sorry had to laugh...it was funny.

You have a point about the corrupt government, I don't know enough about it to elaborate further, one way or the other.

What I do know is that I am sick of non-Americans and even some so called Americans demonizing us when in actuality we do alot for the world that the world is unappreciative of.

[kkkron]

It's more to do with the way you do the things you do. America isn't really known internationally for minimising casualties.

[ConspiracyBuff]

What is Britain known for?

I think your comment is way off. You fail to recognize the type of war we are in, innocents may die. You fail to recognize that many of these so called innocents are not so innocent after all. They are hiding, feeding and storing terrorists in their homes (certainly not all of them). Remember the US doesn't keep track of civilian deaths, the enemy does, and the other enemy (MSM) does. Also, many of these cowards use civilians for shields, leaving little option. America has done alot more good then bad for the world, much more than other countries would like to admit. Vietnam was a mistake, it was a quagmire but try to keep an open mind about what America is trying to do, it isn't an evil empire, it seeks to do good but has the tremendous responsibility of having to try to deal with alot of the worlds ills, and thats hard to do.

[MSGT]

It's more to do with the way you do the things you do. America isn't really known internationally for minimising casualties.Must be cause we nuke everyone

[kkkron]

What is Britain known for?

I think your comment is way off. You fail to recognize the type of war we are in, innocents may die. You fail to recognize that many of these so called innocents are not so innocent after all. They are hiding, feeding and storing terrorists in their homes (certainly not all of them). Remember the US doesn't keep track of civilian deaths, the enemy does, and the other enemy (MSM) does. Also, many of these cowards use civilians for shields, leaving little option. America has done alot more good then bad for the world, much more than other countries would like to admit. Vietnam was a mistake, it was a quagmire but try to keep an open mind about what America is trying to do, it isn't an evil empire, it seeks to do good but has the tremendous responsibility of having to try to deal with alot of the worlds ills, and thats hard to do.

I know, I know. But people always think that there is a better way.

And Britain is known for being possibly the most powerful country ever back in the days of the Empire.

[Lazarus]

...You yourselves are very proud of the fact that America is the world's greatest superpower...You are clueless... I dont know a single American who is "Proud" to be the greatest superpower, as you put it... Superpower is a title all you non-superpowers like to tag the US with for the sole reason that is being demonstrated in this thread... So you can dodge getting directly involved in the nasty fights...

How convenient for you to always point to us and say that be virtue of our superior military machine, we should be the ones to shoulder the responsibility of maintaining world peace... How convenient for the rest of the "civilized" world that there is this one nation that can be sent to take the risks and clean up the messes... We arent the world's superpower - we are the world's garbage man...

Dont talk to me about multinational forces... Britain, Japan, Poland and many other countries joined the US in Iraq... How many more joined us in Afghanistan? And in every instance where a multinational force is involved in trying to stablize a local government that is under attack from Islamists or Communists, or whatever terrorist group, who is it they blame?

Do they call for the elimination or ousting of the "Coalition forces"?... Is it Great Britain or Australia or Poland or Italy they rant against?

No....... Its always America that is the target of their hatred...

Walk a mile in our shoes, KKK... Tell me how it feels when your home nation becomes the target of media whores looking for someone to blame for all the evil in the world...

If America wasnt here, what would happen to the world? Would the terrorist organizations simply swallow up everything because the "Free" nations of the world are too militarily impotent to even transport their troops across an ocean?

Its time for you and Aussie and all your kind who hide behind this "Superpower" argument to grow up and become responsible adults... You cant indulge in childhood forever... Because America is getting damned tired of being the Daddy... And Im already seeing signs of America slipping into isolationist mode... Or what I call a long deserved vacation...

[kkkron]

Well, you can't hide from the fact that it is true. America has more power than any other country, and so it is the most logical candidate for leading a multinational force. If America wasn't here, then I would see the next strongest country as the best candidate. It's not because you're America, it's because you're powerful.

Also, **** the media whores.

[Lazarus]

Well, you can't hide from the fact that it is true. America has more power than any other country, and so it is the most logical candidate for leading a multinational force...Wrong... You make an illogical leap of logic here...

This: America has more power than any other country..

Does not equal this: ...it is the most logical candidate for leading a multinational force...

[kkkron]

If you can provide me with a more logical leader of a multinational force and explain why it is more logical, I'll gladly think that they're the best candidate for leader. MY logic tells me that America is the most logical leader, but maybe I'm wrong. I've been wrong before. A lot.

[BuckeyeMike]

Here's a plan for ya kid......yeah, we'll lead the multinational force to "take care of business" where ever it is needed.........BUT, we the American taxpayer will not finance the little adventure.....YOU ( England?), the European Union, Pacific Rim countries...everybody but the US will pick up the tab...get together with your precious U effen N and work out some kind of payment plan we don't care....you all ALSO must provide the manpower---not us....we'll ramrod the operation, provide some materiel, but THAT"S IT!!.....we're tired, broke, and pissed off at all of you pissant foreigners that expect the US taxpayer to feed, clothe, and bleed for everybody else on this rock at the drop of a hat or the toss of a stone. We've already done it for far too long as it is....it's your turn....step up to the plate and start taking care of yourselves, and each other, but NOT at the expense of the US taxpayer. Management is your problem? Your weakness? We got the know how, we got the "managers"........BUY IT! Otherwise....ALL of you f**king foreigners....sit down and STFU......we bust chops for you, and the "gratitude" you express is atrocious!