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S-T
08-11-2006, 05:03 AM
Democrats are right to "abandon" Lieberman (http://www.conservatibbs.com/nucleus/index.php?itemid=24)

A banner headline across the top of the Nation/World section in yesterday's Herald-Times ( http://www.heraldtimesonline.com/stories/2006/08/10/nationworld.0810-HT-C1_PM056880.sto) declares "Democrats abandon Lieberman". Democratic leaders in the Senate, including Hillary Clinton, John Kerry and Chuck Schumer are now backing Lamont against an independent Lieberman candidacy.

This is what I expected they would do, and what they should do. Lieberman is now running against a Democratic candidate, not running as a Democrat in the party primary. What message would it have sent if Clinton, Kerry and Schumer were supporting an independent candidate over their party's nominee and ignoring the choice made by the majority of Democratic primary voters in Connecticut?

Well before Tuesday's election, Lieberman was talking about running as an independent of he lost the primary. I am sure this arrogance cost him quite a few votes with Democrats. If he wanted to run as an independent candidate in the general election, he should have filed as an independent instead of running as a Democrat. Now, Lieberman looks like a sore loser who thinks he has a divine right to his seat in the Senate. Lieberman needs to recognize that the voters of his party chose someone else, let go of his ego and step aside gracefully.

This would not be happening in Indiana, because we have a "sore loser" law that prohibits a defeated primary candidate from running in the general as an independent. This is a good law, and the Connecticut legislature should consider passing one as well. A sore loser should not be allowed to throw a monkey wrench into the general election because he did not get his way in the primary.

There is a lot of talk now about the political implications of Lieberman's defeat by an upstart challenger from his left. I do not think these results are indicative of anything other than the dynamics of primary elections, where the party's "true believers" are more common than moderates. The "true believers" were not satisfied with Lieberman's support for President Bush, just as the "true believers" in Pennsylvania were not happy with Arlen Specter's voting record in 2004.

It will be interesting to see how this plays out in November. Lieberman's candidacy could allow a Republican to win with a plurality, handing what has been a "safe seat" for Democrats to the GOP. Lieberman, while he has a history of dominating his Senate races, may have trouble even coming in second, which would be a serious blow to whatever political influence he has left.

DoctorDoom
08-11-2006, 07:26 AM
I am in favor of the libeRATs' abandonment of Lieberman for Lamont for an entirely different reason: Lamont is a limousine liberal, has absolutely no political experience, and ran SOLELY on the issue of cutting and running in Iraq. By circling the wagons around that dipshit, the RATs have abandoned their last pretense of "moderation" and have locked their lips around the dicks of George Soros and the treasonous scumbags of Move-On. They are now OFFICIALLY the party of Bush-loathing, America-bashing, left-wing extremism.

I dearly hope that this will be the swan song of the RAT Party.

PaulRevere
08-11-2006, 07:42 AM
The Robespierre Democrats are purging their party of the 'unbelievers', thinking that the unwashed masses will automatically follow some bored millionaire looking for something new to fill up his idle time.

Beowulf
08-11-2006, 10:59 AM
I'll probably get grilled for this but I hold much respect for Joe Lieberman right now. His own party abandon's him and he continues to fight on.....against them.

I don't agree with most of his ideas but he is a man who won't give up and he seems to have a common sense approach to things.

Rhino
08-11-2006, 11:33 AM
I'm with Beo. He works for his constituents, not for his party, and most of the constituents aren't democrats anyway.

Lazarus
08-11-2006, 12:18 PM
... (http://www.conservatibbs.com/nucleus/index.php?itemid=24)This would not be happening in Indiana, because we have a "sore loser" law that prohibits a defeated primary candidate from running in the general as an independent. This is a good law, and the Connecticut legislature should consider passing one as well. A sore loser should not be allowed to throw a monkey wrench into the general election because he did not get his way in the primary...Which is just one more reminder why I dont live in Indiana... Sore Loser law? More like a Major-Party-Monopoly law... A Limit-The-Voters'-Choices law... A Play-our-way-or-dont-play-at-all law... Precisely what I would expect from a state infested with old school unionism... That is to say, old school Communism thuggery...

I'll probably get grilled for this but I hold much respect for Joe Lieberman right now. His own party abandon's him and he continues to fight on.....against them.

I don't agree with most of his ideas but he is a man who won't give up and he seems to have a common sense approach to things.You've only said what I've more than once on this board... I disagree with much of Lieberman's posiitons on political issues, but the man is a civil, decent gentleman... His demenor is what the standard for behavior in the Senate should be... If all Dems were as reasonable as Joe Lieberman, we might actually get something meaningful done in the Senate...

Im glad he has the courage to run as an independant... It shows me that he's not a party puppet... He's a rare character that we dont see in politics much anymore... He's a STATESMAN...

And everyone knows that the Dems want him to stand down because he will dilute their voter base... Same old song... Its politics - and that has NOTHING todo with freedom or the right of the voters to choose their representatives...

The_Elucidator
08-11-2006, 12:19 PM
I'll probably get grilled for this but I hold much respect for Joe Lieberman right now. His own party abandon's him and he continues to fight on.....against them.

I don't agree with most of his ideas but he is a man who won't give up and he seems to have a common sense approach to things.

Actually Beo you would probably find many on the board here that is pulling for Joe. Right after the 2000 cluster I couldn't stand him, but during the WOT he has been right on the money. So I really hope he wins in November!!

DeclinetoState
08-11-2006, 05:44 PM
I'm waiting for the Democrats and other socialists to start calling him "Loserman," the mantra the Republicans hung on him during the endless 2000 election recounts.

Black Phoenix
08-11-2006, 06:04 PM
I'm still a little resentful of what happened in the 2000 elections. Sore Loserman co. tried to rig an American election, via counting hanging chads and ballot dimples as Al Gore votes. Those kinds of ballots were clearly marked, and they're used to this day without problems.

He may be better than other Democrats, but don't know that I trust him. He's stood by us when it was popular, but what great thing has the man done besides make a few speeches? Either he's finally having an attack of conscience, or he's jumping the democrat ship cause he's not as stupid as the rest of them.

Lubbock
08-11-2006, 06:29 PM
No grilling from this quarter, Beo.

Joe Lieberman is standing strong on the one issue that is getting him hammered by "his party".

Have to admire that.

Prediction: He'll retain his seat. Republicans will cross the party line and vote for him. I don't know much about the Republican candidate, but what I do know, I don't like. I would vote for Lieberman.

S-T
08-11-2006, 07:33 PM
Don't be fooled, folks. Lieberman is just as much of a Leftist wacko as Pervo-Ted Kennedy, John F'n Kerry, and Hillary Clinton. Joe Lieberman is a gun-grabbing, pro-abortion, tax hiking, nanny-state Leftist. His only saving grace is his support for the War on Terror. Lieberman is on his own side. That's all. A man with a conscience would not have abandoned many of his previously stated principles for a shot at the White House as Algore's V.P. nominee. I don't hold Lieberman in any higher regard than I do John F'n Kerry or Howard Dean.
Which is just one more reminder why I dont live in Indiana... Sore Loser law? More like a Major-Party-Monopoly law... A Limit-The-Voters'-Choices law... A Play-our-way-or-dont-play-at-all law
Lieberman could have easily filed to run as an independent from day one. He chose not to do so. Candidates need to accept responsability for their choices rather than trying to play spoiler for the person who defeats them in the primary.

True American
08-11-2006, 08:10 PM
I'll probably get grilled for this but I hold much respect for Joe Lieberman right now. His own party abandon's him and he continues to fight on.....against them.

I don't agree with most of his ideas but he is a man who won't give up and he seems to have a common sense approach to things.


I don't know,
I disagree. Leiberman has always tried to cover his ass to simply stay employed. He has never been loyal to anything in my view, like the Vice Presidency. He ran for senator and VP at the same time. He's a whiner who will gleefully drop any ideals for the act of getting his position in the employment ring placed in tact. I'd personally like to see Leiberman finally take his medicine and be done with. He's an incredibly boring and extremely predictable politician and it's time for some new blood. Especially if that new blood will do the Democratic Party harm. Tee hee hee....http://www.freeconservatives.com/vb/images/icons/biggrin0.gif

DesertFox
08-11-2006, 08:13 PM
I don't hold Lieberman in any higher regard than I do John F'n Kerry or Howard Dean.I do, but not much.