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Naturalized-Texan
08-14-2006, 08:34 AM
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Maggie_T
08-14-2006, 08:39 AM
And that's why they're going to crash. ;)

Lubbock
08-14-2006, 09:01 AM
Ain't it a beautiful thing?!?

Beowulf
08-14-2006, 09:59 AM
Love the toon!

DeclinetoState
08-14-2006, 11:56 AM
They believe the extreme left (pro-gay marriage, pro-abortion with very few exceptions, pro-tax increases, anti-war in Iraq, anti-religious displays of any type--but especially Christian--in public, pro-evolution teaching, pro-gun confiscation, etc.) is really the center or even the center-right.

gnome
08-14-2006, 12:01 PM
Come to think of it I'd probably enjoy it if the Democratic party completely disintegrated. Maybe something else would come up that better represents me.

Maggie_T
08-14-2006, 01:14 PM
Gnome, you are beginning to show signs of wisdom. Keep up the good work. ;)

Naturalized-Texan
08-14-2006, 02:54 PM
Of course, the Republican Party has only the right wing. Now, I understand where you're coming from.

Lubbock
08-14-2006, 03:16 PM
Uh, huh.

Like the way you RE-define "Freedom of Speech"?

ProCon
08-14-2006, 03:18 PM
I do so get tired of Republicans redefining words to suit whatever their latest stance is. Why not just come clean, admit you are diet-commie, and be done with it. At least then you could be honest.

I don't get it..."diet-commie" and redefined words? I sense poorly targeted animosity, and ill-defined grievances.

Lubbock
08-14-2006, 03:25 PM
"diet-commie" stumped me, too.

But since it's posted by the resident ConArtist, I'm not going to spend any time trying to guess the meaning.

DoctorDoom
08-14-2006, 03:35 PM
"diet-commie" stumped me, too.Probably a variation of Commie Lite.

Naturalized-Texan
08-14-2006, 03:52 PM
"diet-commie" stumped me, too.

But since it's posted by the resident ConArtist, I'm not going to spend any time trying to guess the meaning.
And on one of the major issues of Reagan conservatism, free trade, BJ Clinton is considerably closer to Reagan conservatism than that resident ConArtist.

Reagan was a strong advocate of free trade. In fact NAFTA and GATT were both Reagan initiatives. The negotiations on those trade agreements began under President Reagan and were completed under the first President Bush. Of course, there was no way that the Democrat Congress would ratify those agreements while Bush 1 was president. BJ Clinton decided that those agreements would be good for him politically and would be good for the country, so he pushed the Democrat leaders to allow them to come to a vote. They passed with a majority of Republicans and enough Democrats in favor to carry the day.

As we know, that ConArtist has repeatedly expressed his opposition to free trade, so his position is diametrically opposed to Reagan conservatism.

An aside: Long ago, when Pat Buchanan lived in the real world and was still a Reagan conservative, he also supported free trade. In his 1988 book, Right from the Start, Pat was an outspoken free trader who was advocating open and free trade with Asian markets. He opposed any restrictions on trade and wrote that anyone who wanted to use the power of government to protect American manufacturers from foreign competition was stupid. So, according to Pat Buchanan, Pat Buchanan is now stupid.

Naturalized-Texan
08-14-2006, 03:56 PM
The ConArtist keeps pretending that he is a Reagan conservative, but we real Reagan conservatives know very well that he is nothing of the kind. He is just conning us, as usual.

Rink
08-14-2006, 05:33 PM
What'll Prolly happen is the democrat Party will go the way of the Do-Do Bird, then the Republicans with their shifting towards the Left will replace them, and another Party will come up thats MORE Conservative than the current crop of Republicans.

Naturalized-Texan
08-14-2006, 05:35 PM
AmeriConArtist: Thanks for confirming that you are clearly not a Reagan conservative.

BTW, Pat Buchanan may still be a social conservative, but he has been co-opted by the far left when it comes to economic issues and the War on Terror. He is now closely aligned with Kerry/Kennedy/Daschle/Gephardt/Schumer/et al. libs on economic issues such as free trade. And, he still blames the Jews for the 9/11 attacks and he has aligned himself with the cut-and-run lefties on the War on Terror. How can you possibly support Buchanan and oppose free trade and still pretend to be a Reagan conservative? Answer: You can't, so stop pretending.

Ronald Reagan was well versed in free-market economics based on the teachings of Milton Friedman. There is no way that he would reverse his position on economic freedom, especially free trade, particularly when free trade has been such a great success in helping to expand the American economy.

It's clear that you need to study Free to Choose by Milton and Rose Friedman. You certainly need to vastly improve your knowledge of free-market economics so that you won't be so easily fooled by anti-free-market demagogues.

Naturalized-Texan
08-14-2006, 05:40 PM
Rink: That could happen, but since the vast majority of Republicans are conservative and the number of conservatives in the Republican Party today is vastly greater than 40 or 50 years ago, I doubt it.

Lubbock
08-14-2006, 06:45 PM
The Democratic Party is on a path to implode.

When you look at what's happened to -- or been done to -- Joe Lieberman, as liberal a Senator as has ever lived and breathed; done to him by his own party, you have to know that the Democrats are due for a huge shake up.

What used to be the rank and file in the party has about had their fill of the Soros/Moore Wing. Either the Old Guard will take the party back, or the Dems will keep losing elections.

Soros/Moore unites the Republicans like nothing I can rmember --except for the odd childish nut case who comes along every now and then, demanding that his every little wish to be granted, and declaring George W. Bush to be a traitor to the country.

Rink
08-14-2006, 09:05 PM
I think the Constitutional Party will be the one to take up the True Conservative banner once things get set into place with the demise of the democrat Party

Rink
08-14-2006, 09:09 PM
Rink: That could happen, but since the vast majority of Republicans are conservative and the number of conservatives in the Republican Party today is vastly greater than 40 or 50 years ago, I doubt it.

Nat tex unfortunately the Republican party has taken its conservative base for granted, marginalized the Religious right and has put a distance to true conservatives like tancredo, Delay et al.

They are abandoning the Conservatives in order to look and be more 'progressive' and more 'inclusive'

Those vast amounts of true conservatives are becoming tired of being ignored by the party they had supported for so long only to be ignored, marginalized, and reidiculed, and distanced from by the Republican party

Longhorn_Platinum
08-14-2006, 09:19 PM
Naturalized-Texan:
Of course, the Republican Party has only the right wing.

:question: McCain, Giuliani, Snowe, Specter, Chafee, & Collins are right wing?

Timberwolf
08-14-2006, 10:47 PM
There's no such thing as "free-trade", except within the borders of the USA. This is because we have an authority to which the 50 states submit. To say that there's "global" free trade is an idea I do not even want to consider for it means that every COUNTRY must submit to a greater authority - the UN. That is unacceptable to TRUE Americans.

NOTHING is free. The only thing "free" trade is going to accomplish is the abolition of our sovereignty...and what's worse is that it's going to come to fruition because some people worship money. It's all about the "ever holy" greenback.

gnome
08-15-2006, 05:59 AM
I would also argue that "free trade" isn't free unless the labor is free to move around also. Give people in Bangalore the choice to come to America, and see how many stick around for substandard wages from outsourced jobs. I'm not saying this should be done, it's just an example.