View Full Version : Ducks Down Sooners, 34-33
DeclinetoState
09-17-2006, 10:35 PM
EUGENE, Ore. (AP) -- Dennis Dixon and No. 18 Oregon rallied for two touchdowns in the final 72 seconds and the Ducks blocked a field goal on the final play to seal a wild 34-33 victory over No. 15 Oklahoma on Saturday.
Dixon's 16-yard keeper with 1:12 left brought the Ducks within 33-27 and set up the onside kick attempt.
The Ducks (3-0) recovered the kick on their own 48, with 1:02 to go.
After a pass interference call on Oklahoma again had Sooners coach Bob Stoops shaking his head on the sideline, Dixon threw a 23-yard TD pass to Brian Paysinger with 46 seconds to give Oregon the lead.
Oklahoma wasn't done, though, as Reggie Smith returned a squib kick 55 yards to the Ducks' 27.
More at GoDucks.com (http://www.goducks.com/ViewArticle.dbml?ATCLID=609493&DB_OEM_ID=500)
uncommon1
09-18-2006, 03:26 PM
I'll bite on this one. If you don't think that they had to get officials to cheat for them to win the game, then go to the link and see what the officials did. This has to rank right along side the Russians beating the U.S in basketball in 1972 and the bad call in the world series about ten years ago. I know it sounds like sour grapes, but when you've been robbed by officials, there is nothing else to do but squeal. As the expression goes "We was robbed"!
In case I sound too irritated, watch the video at the link provided. If they didn't cheat, then they are the worst officials in the history of sport. They not only missed (i) the call that the Oregon player hit the ball before it went 10 yards, (ii) they also gave the ball to Oregon and it's clear that Oklahoma recovered it. Probably just a bunch of left coast socialists anyway. It's what we should expect from tree hugging earth firsters.
http://www.soonersports.com/ViewArticle.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=300&ATCLID=610256
Longhorn_Platinum
09-18-2006, 08:08 PM
:unsmile: Maybe the refs were good, maybe they were bad, but after the 1984 Texas-Oklahoma game, I have no sympathy for ou. Texas got robbed by the refs, & Barry Switzer had the raw nerve to go on national TV, & say that the sooners got cheated. As long as ou fans venerate that slime-bucket, they'll get no pity from me.
maxparrish
09-19-2006, 01:11 AM
I'll bite on this one. If you don't think that they had to get officials to cheat for them to win the game, then go to the link and see what the officials did. This has to rank right along side the Russians beating the U.S in basketball in 1972 and the bad call in the world series about ten years ago. I know it sounds like sour grapes, but when you've been robbed by officials, there is nothing else to do but squeal. As the expression goes "We was robbed"!
In case I sound too irritated, watch the video at the link provided. If they didn't cheat, then they are the worst officials in the history of sport. They not only missed (i) the call that the Oregon player hit the ball before it went 10 yards, (ii) they also gave the ball to Oregon and it's clear that Oklahoma recovered it. Probably just a bunch of left coast socialists anyway. It's what we should expect from tree hugging earth firsters.
http://www.soonersports.com/ViewArticle.dbml?
DB_OEM_ID=300&ATCLID=610256
I have to agree, it was marred by very poor officiating, even before the end. As an OU and Raider fan, I will have to live with this game AND the immaculate reception against Pittsburg (early 70's) AND the horrible call for N.England in the payoff game against the Raiders a few years ago.
I just can't believe that the guy in the booth was alive - are you sure he did not fall asleep with his forehead on the "call stands" button?
Know of any site that replays those calls?
BTW - Stoops is not blameless. What the hell was he doing calling a running play when he had NO timeouts left. He had to hurry the kick and 44 yards is never a given. What a boneheaded call....
PaulRevere
09-19-2006, 03:05 AM
Unfortunately, bad calls are a part of the game. It's really bad when a seemingly obvious bad call was apparently decisive. Remember, though, every team gets their turn. The Ducks have been the victims of plenty of bad officiating over the years, too.
BTW, I remember when the Ducks got jipped out of playing for the national championship and went on to annihilate Colorado while Miami annihilated Nebraska for an easy #1, so don't whine too much about a lost early season non-conference game. By the end of the season it won't matter.
BTW also, OU had their last chance, and blew a field goal.
uncommon1
09-19-2006, 08:01 AM
LP: You would be talking about the game in which Stansbury clearly intercepted a longhorn pass on the 15 and the ref said he was bobbling it when he went out of bounds. texas then kicked field goal for the tie as time was running out. Truly you jest when you say that texas got robbed. texas fans walked away from that game thinking they had won merely because they got a tie that they shouldn't have had and the whole world knew it. I believe your lack of objectivity might have your opinion skewed.
BEST45CAL
09-19-2006, 02:36 PM
ESPN reported yesterday that ALL of the numbnut officials were suspended, including the instant replay morons for "errors made and not corrected."
I think that's justified.
Replaying the game is not. Bad calls are part of the game, too.
Longhorn_Platinum
09-19-2006, 04:19 PM
uncommon1:
LP: You would be talking about the game in which Stansbury clearly intercepted a longhorn pass on the 15 and the ref said he was bobbling it when he went out of bounds. texas then kicked field goal for the tie as time was running out. Truly you jest when you say that texas got robbed. texas fans walked away from that game thinking they had won merely because they got a tie that they shouldn't have had and the whole world knew it. I believe your lack of objectivity might have your opinion skewed.
:unsmile: Oh, I suppose if you focus on whether or not Stansbury had clear possession of the ball in-bounds, then I can see the ou point of view. But, the objectivity that you whine about requires that you look at the whole picture, not one small aspect of it. And it's just not convenient for sooner partisans to recognize that, after Todd Dodge released the ball, the intended receiver was tackled by another sooner defender, without which, Stansbury couldn't have even made his interception. Had the officials called interference, Texas would have gotten the ball with first & goal from the 1, instead of having it with 4th & 9 from the 10. With enough time remaining for two more plays, the Longhorns might very well have punched in the winning score.
:unsmile: Nor do sooners fans care to remember Fred Akers's claim that the sooners were guilty of holding on the other side of the field. Had the officials called that, Texas would have had the ball at the 5 yard line.
:unsmile: And it rains on the sooner pity party, to recognize that bad officiating permeäted the entire game, not always to Texas's benefit. Especially not the situation that occurred at the end of Oklahoma's last drive, when a bad snap from center forced the punter to drop to his knee to field the ball. Had the officials not all been looking the other way, Texas would have gotten the ball at the ou 40. Instead, they had to go 80 yards for a touchdown, & they actually covered 70 of it. It's likely that the oversight of the officials cost the 'Horns the winning touchdown. And, with fewer yards to cover, Texas would not have been under as much pressure to get down the field quickly, & Stansbury's apparent interception would probably not even have occurred.
:unsmile: When all the facts are considered, not just one narrow aspect, it becomes clear that Texas has a better case than Oklahoma for claiming that they were robbed. It's too bad that Fred Akers didn't call a quick press conference to make our case. But, I guess he preferred to be more gracious in the wake of a skewed outcome than that classless crybaby Switzer, & his thousands of fawning toadies.
Longhorn_Platinum
09-19-2006, 04:24 PM
maxparrish:
I have to agree, it was marred by very poor officiating, even before the end. As an OU and Raider fan, I will have to live with this game AND the immaculate reception against Pittsburg (early 70's) AND the horrible call for N.England in the payoff game against the Raiders a few years ago.
:unsmile: That bad call in favor of the Patriots a few years ago only served to even the score, from a bad call in favor of the Raiders (also against the Patriots) in the AFC championship game, just before Super Bowl XI. And if that immaculate reception by Pittsburgh is the one I'm thinking of, it was a good call. And that's coming from somebody who despises the Steelers.
Longhorn_Platinum
09-19-2006, 04:37 PM
BEST45CAL:
ESPN reported yesterday that ALL of the numbnut officials were suspended, including the instant replay morons for "errors made and not corrected."
:rolleyes: Barry Switzer must have placed some phone calls.
I think that's justified.
:unsmile: Why? They're human, & they make mistakes. As you said, bad calls are part of the game.
Replaying the game is not. Bad calls are part of the game, too.
Longhorn_Platinum
09-19-2006, 05:05 PM
:hissyfit: It is truly sad and deeply disappointing that members of our football team should be deprived of the outcome of the game that they deserved because of an inexcusable breakdown in officiating.
Sincerely,
David L. Boren
President, The University of Oklahoma
:rolleyes: Too bad he wasn't around in 1984.
DeclinetoState
09-19-2006, 05:32 PM
Boren is or was a conservative Democrat. His son, likewise, is a Democrat in the House of Reps.
BEST45CAL
09-19-2006, 11:59 PM
:unsmile: Why? They're human, & they make mistakes. As you said, bad calls are part of the game.
As far as the officiating on the field is concerned, yes. Bad calls are part of the game.
However, it's those replay idiots upstairs, not the officials on the field, who were tasked with correcting the obviously bad call on the field.
The replay people saw what everyone else saw, yet they didn't do anything about it. That's not making a mistake. It's not doing your job.
Longhorn_Platinum
09-20-2006, 05:32 AM
BEST45CAL:
ESPN reported yesterday that ALL of the numbnut officials were suspended, including the instant replay morons for "errors made and not corrected."
I think that's justified.
However, it's those replay idiots upstairs, not the officials on the field, who were tasked with correcting the obviously bad call on the field.
:unsmile: Make up your mind.
uncommon1
09-20-2006, 08:51 AM
:unsmile: When all the facts are considered, not just one narrow aspect, it becomes clear that Texas has a better case than Oklahoma for claiming that they were robbed. It's too bad that Fred Akers didn't call a quick press conference to make our case. But, I guess he preferred to be more gracious in the wake of a skewed outcome than that classless crybaby Switzer, & his thousands of fawning toadies.
Therein lies the problem. I thought it was your lack of objectivity that clouded your reasoning, but it's your hatred for Switzer, a coach who, for the most part, turned the university of texas football team into OU's prison bitch for the better part of 16 seasons. Fred Akers might have made the case, but he was never one to think very quickly on his feet. Like the 1984 game, the 2006 game against Oregon both had questionable missed calls throughout each game and we all agree that the referees are human and make mistakes. However, the calls in both games came at crucial times when the possession change would have meant the end of the game. In other words, had the call been correctly made in either of the two games at the end, neither Oregon would have won nor would texas have had the opportunity to kick a field goal fo rthe tie. It's pretty simple to understand.
The big objection is that when the replay was reviewed, the reviewer didn't look use all of the tools at his disposal, and typical of a texas fan, you attempt to throw out a red herring ( a game that took place 22 years ago) to distract from the real issue, which is that OU clearly got robbed in the game against Oregon on Saturday. Check the link above and open up the replay. It's as clear as your hatred for Switzer.
Decline, regarding your comment about Boren being a conservative democrat, I think he has that reputation, but if you look at his voting record while he was a Senator, you'll see that he spoke much differently than he voted. He's very shrewd.
Longhorn_Platinum
09-20-2006, 11:20 AM
uncommon1:
In other words, had the call been correctly made in either of the two games at the end, neither Oregon would have won nor would texas have had the opportunity to kick a field goal fo rthe tie. It's pretty simple to understand.
:unsmile: First of all, I object to this mentality that only the last play of the game is relevant. And even if that were true, what part of "interference" did you not understand? And why is it so hard to comprehend that setting Texas back 40 yards on a crucial drive didn't give ou a boost that they desperately needed? Maybe it's because you've been spoon-fed sooner pabulum for 22 years, that you've already made up your mind that y'all got robbed, & far be it from anyone to confuse you with facts.
The big objection is that when the replay was reviewed, the reviewer didn't look use all of the tools at his disposal, and typical of a texas fan, you attempt to throw out a red herring ( a game that took place 22 years ago) to distract from the real issue, which is that OU clearly got robbed in the game against Oregon on Saturday. Check the link above and open up the replay. It's as clear as your hatred for Switzer.
:unsmile: Oh, I'm not saying you didn't deserve to win the Oregon game. I'm just saying that I don't have any pity for sooners fans, since they still claim a monopoly on the injustices wrought by the officials in the 1984 Texas game. As soon as they get over themselves, I'll regain the respect I once had for your otherwise fine program.
uncommon1
09-20-2006, 12:37 PM
Oh, but you are so wrong on being spoon-fed Pablum for 22 years. I was only spoon fed for the first 10 years or so of my life. For the last 43 years I've been spoon feeding it myself. Although there are a whole lot more texas fans than there are Sooners, we seem to hold our own pretty well. Yes, you have a better record against us overall, and I'd expect that with unlimited resources possessed by texas. However, I believe that you were the one who brought up the 1984 game and as I previously stated, it has absolutely no relevance to what is happening in 2006 and you threw it out as a red herring. I'll continue to state that we got screwed in 1984 as you will in making your case. There was no replay in 1984. There was also no replay when Colorado got its infamous 5th down play against Missouri. There is replay today and last Saturday it was a dismal failure because it didn't work and it didn't work in the game at Tech last year when the Tech runner was clearly down before he got to the end zone. If texas had the same thing happen as what happened to OU the last two seasons, I'd be just as adamant. When you have a system in place to correct the mistakes, then it needs to be utilized properly. We don't want sympathy, we want correct decisions on replays. It's pretty simple and even you should be able to understand that.
Longhorn_Platinum
09-20-2006, 05:12 PM
uncommon1:
Although there are a whole lot more texas fans than there are Sooners, we seem to hold our own pretty well. Yes, you have a better record against us overall, and I'd expect that with unlimited resources possessed by texas.
:moo: I don't recall if it was last year, or the year before, but I heard one of the sports anchors say that of OU's 22 starters, only six were from Oklahoma. If y'all hold your own, it's because y'all rely on talent from other states; especially Texas. There's a reason that OU's nickname is "The University of Texas at Norman".
I'll continue to state that we got screwed in 1984 as you will in making your case.
:moo: Wow, we're making progress. That's the first time I've heard a Sooners fan admit that we even have a case.
There was no replay in 1984. There was also no replay when Colorado got its infamous 5th down play against Missouri.
:unsmile: There was no replay rule. There was replay. And if Dr. Borin' has his way, the replays would be used to overturn the results of Saturday's game. Do you agree with that? Should we review other games, such as that Colorado-Missouri game, & even the 1984 Texas-Oklahoma game, to see who should have won?
There is replay today and last Saturday it was a dismal failure because it didn't work and it didn't work in the game at Tech last year when the Tech runner was clearly down before he got to the end zone.
:unsmile: Actually, a Tech fan posted a picture of that at the Talk Amarillo forum last year, & it looked to everyone at that BB that the correct call was made.
If texas had the same thing happen as what happened to OU the last two seasons, I'd be just as adamant.
:unsmile: I find that hard to believe, even if you call my disbelief a red herring. Because, I have never heard an ou fan admit that Texas got screwed by some bad officiating in 1984. You only whine, when it's ou that gets hurt. When it's Texas, you just scoff. And that's been my whole point in this thread.
:unsmile: And for the record, I posted a few years ago, right here at FC, that I thought it was wrong for Texas to go to the Big XII championship game, instead of OU, based on conference records, given that OU had lost to a team that Texas didn't even have to play. I didn't gloat, because the hated sooners were the ones who got screwed. I'm still waiting to hear that kind of objectivity from the sooners.
BEST45CAL
09-20-2006, 09:25 PM
:unsmile: Make up your mind.
What don't you understand? LOL
Frankly, I don't give a $#!t who won or who lost that game.
I just hope nothing like that happens to my BUCKEYES!
RayChuang
09-20-2006, 10:24 PM
I hate to say this, but the Sooners are getting NO sympathy for the whiney attitude of University of Oklahoma college president David Boren. He's been thoroughly ripped by all the national talk shows, to say the least; I just finished listening to the podcast of ESPN Radio's The Herd with Colin Cowherd and he did a number of Boren--and deservedly so, too.
DeclinetoState
09-21-2006, 12:13 AM
I'm not sorry that Oklahoma lost, given all the crap that various Oklahoma teams have gotten away with in the past. For example, I remember as a kid Oklahoma having a perfect or nearly perfect season but being ineligible for the "national championship" (or even having its game televised) due to probation, probably assessed for actions committed years before, i.e., not by the players then on the field.
Longhorn_Platinum
09-21-2006, 05:38 AM
:unsmile: I think that was 1973. They were on probation for a recruiting violation scandal that involved a Texas high school (Galveston Ball), which was penalized, as well. But, Oklahoma wasn't ineligible for the so-called national championship. The AP poll, hardly an unbiased source, still awarded the cheaters with their final #1 ranking. (Notre Dame must have been having a bad year.)
:question: Gee, who do you suppose was head coach at Oklahoma in 1973?
uncommon1
09-21-2006, 03:29 PM
:question: Gee, who do you suppose was head coach at Oklahoma in 1973?
It was the great Barry Switzer. The same guy who gave DKR fits and who helped to bring about the demise of Fred Akers. Yes, they were on suspension, but it was for recruiting done by Chuck Fairbanks who had been the previous coach. The person who had his transcripts changed was Kerry Jackson. I'm still proud of the job that Switzer did that year with being on probation, no television, recruiting limits, scholarships cut, and stil lthey won a national championship. I'd have to say that's coming out and making lemonade out of lemons.
Longhorn_Platinum
09-21-2006, 05:23 PM
uncommon1:
...the great Barry Switzer....
:question: There were two of them?
uncommon1
09-22-2006, 01:09 PM
Yes, considering he had almost a 2-1 victory to loss ratio against texas, maybe there were two of him. By the way, I thought your colors were burnt orange and white, not green and greener.
Longhorn_Platinum
09-22-2006, 04:24 PM
Longhorn_Platinum:
:unsmile: I'm still waiting to hear that kind of objectivity from the sooners.
:unsmile: *Crickets chirping*
Longhorn_Platinum
09-22-2006, 04:28 PM
:moo: Oh, I talked to a Texas Tech grad this morning, & I asked her if that call against zero-u was a good one. She told me that any call in her team's favor was a good call. What a lovely attitude! If Texas & Oklahoma fans felt that way in 1984, we would have all walked away happy. Texas fans would have felt good about getting to keep possession of the ball, & Oklahoma fans would have been elated that they didn't get called for interference. Ain't life grand?
DeclinetoState
09-22-2006, 10:44 PM
Yes, considering he had almost a 2-1 victory to loss ratio against texas, maybe there were two of him. By the way, I thought your colors were burnt orange and white, not green and greener.http://www.icnet.net/users/willtex22/ou/oufoot/switzer2.jpg http://sportsmed.starwave.com/i/abcsports/bcs/1026/photo/s_switzer_sp.jpg
Switzer and Switzer
http://www.theworldlink.com/content/articles/2006/08/11/sports/sports05081106.jpg
Green and greener?
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