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Wyatt_Junker
10-13-2006, 12:46 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Avbh5fb8nY

Wolfcounsel
10-13-2006, 01:54 PM
I have always liked my revenge served on an ice-cold plate. I would live in fear if I were one of those faggots who teabagged the kid.

Kathy30
10-13-2006, 02:31 PM
This is what you get from the new homoexually tolerant school system.

TechnoPrincess
10-13-2006, 04:04 PM
Agreed Kathy. We have normalized perversion...and we are reaping the rewards...

cerberus
10-13-2006, 04:51 PM
I doubt this has anything to do with homosexuality and everything to do with a bunch of cruel bullies doing what bullies have done for years.

Wolfcounsel
10-13-2006, 05:28 PM
"I doubt this has anything to do with homosexuality and everything to do with a bunch of cruel bullies doing what bullies have done for years." --cerberus

Anybody have an estimate on how many of those "hetero" guys go around bragging to their "friends" that they rubbed their genitals on another male's face?

cerberus
10-13-2006, 07:09 PM
Anybody have an estimate on how many of those "hetero" guys go around bragging to their "friends" that they rubbed their genitals on another male's face?
You kidding? For frat college kids it's apparently de riguer to do to a buddy passed out from drinking too much, along with dipping his hand in warm water and writing on his face with a Sharpie.
I don't understand it either, but apparently it's "funny".....:confused:

HomeschoolrsRUs
10-13-2006, 08:34 PM
This is what you get from the new homoexually tolerant school system.

Agreed!

And actually, I would elaborate further ... this is what you get from a society that has devalued life from its inception (the "morning after pill", RU486, abortion) to its end (assisted suicide, Terri Schiavo).

Jester21
10-13-2006, 10:16 PM
Anybody have an estimate on how many of those "hetero" guys go around bragging to their "friends" that they rubbed their genitals on another male's face?
You'd be surprised.

I wouldn't say it's common, but it's not unknown.

Wyatt_Junker
10-14-2006, 09:24 AM
At least I'm courteous when I serve testical tea, asking my guest if they'd like one lump or two?

Wolfcounsel
10-14-2006, 09:50 AM
Aren't lumps in the testicles some warning sign or something?

Kathy30
10-14-2006, 10:50 AM
The reason why it's not unknown - now is because the social taboos regarding male to male sexual contact are going away. There have always been bullys, but now the bullying is sexual bullying. More and more sexual abuse is mere bullying. To those doing the bullying, it's no big deal, it is acceptable because homosexuality is taught in school as acceptable and normal.

From day one I've said that homosexuality isn't a problem. Homosexuals can teabag one another all night and into the next day, but when homosexuality becomes socially acceptable as normal, then this kind of conduct is acceptable as well. It's no big deal.

Eagle1
10-14-2006, 10:58 AM
teabagging is a common hazing practice. the attempted banana sodomy is not. this is some seriously messed up kids engaged in hazing. If it was just the teabagging, fine, thats funny. but the sodomy is unquestionably the act of closeted predators. this kid is also a pussy for taking it and choosing to be this oh woe is me depressed kid. fight back, be a man. the perps need to be beaten down.

Kathy30
10-14-2006, 11:06 AM
It is common NOW. It wasn't common say 20 years ago.

Incident_command
10-14-2006, 11:43 AM
this kid is also a pussy for taking it and choosing to be this oh woe is me depressed kid. fight back, be a man. the perps need to be beaten down.

And doing interviews about it, get some dignity back

Wolfcounsel
10-14-2006, 12:34 PM
"If it was just the teabagging, fine, thats funny." --Eagle1

If some homo (any guy with a propensity for rubbing his genitals on another guy's face is a homo) attempted that with me, he would be thankful he had completed puberty, or else he would be singing castrato the rest of his life.

gnome
10-14-2006, 12:45 PM
The logic doesn't work. You can't pin a non-consensual harassment or assault at the feet of those who wish to reduce the stigma on a consensual activity. They're two separate things.

Wolfcounsel
10-14-2006, 12:50 PM
"The logic doesn't work. You can't pin a non-consensual harassment or assault at the feet of those who wish to reduce the stigma on a consensual activity. They're two separate things." --gnome

Could you translate into dumbass, gnome? My brain is slow today.

Peachdiane
10-14-2006, 01:32 PM
He's saying it's not the victim's fault. I agree up to a point. If the boy was being held down by several, he wouldn't have a fighting chance. If it's one on one though, he might have been able to fight back and not allow it in the first place.

I used to be a tri-delt and honestly, looking back now, I think any kind of hazing is just absolutely stupid. I've seen and heard too many deaths and injuries from what's thought to be harmless and fun hazing.

TechnoPrincess
10-14-2006, 01:36 PM
Di...it was multiple people....


Sure....blame the victim...it's always the victim's fault that they were attacked...:rolleyes:

Kathy30
10-14-2006, 01:42 PM
The logic doesn't work. You can't pin a non-consensual harassment or assault at the feet of those who wish to reduce the stigma on a consensual activity. They're two separate things.

Once you reduce the stigma, the stigma is reduced for all purposes.

Incident_command
10-14-2006, 03:30 PM
He's saying it's not the victim's fault. I agree up to a point. If the boy was being held down by several, he wouldn't have a fighting chance. If it's one on one though, he might have been able to fight back and not allow it in the first place.



I'm not saying it was the kids fault, far from it. Its the way he and his parents are now acting that gets me.

Peachdiane
10-14-2006, 03:38 PM
I gotcha, IC.

Di...it was multiple people....

Ah, thanks. In that case he didn't stand a chance. I KO'd a girl when she came after me but no matter what you see in the movies some kids just cannot take on a group of bullies!

Jag Wife
10-14-2006, 03:48 PM
If this were a girl under 13, according to The Vagina Monologues, it would have been "a sexual awakening." Now ask me again, is anybody surprised?

If somebody had done this to one of my brothers, back in the day, he would not have lived to tell.

Lubbock
10-14-2006, 03:50 PM
I can't read the article because I've got Wyatt blocked, but following the comments on the thread, I take it that a kid was ganged up on and harmed in some way by a bunch of bullies.

?

Just a guess.

For what it's worth, that's wrong on any level.

Frat/Sorority hazing not excepted.

gnome
10-14-2006, 04:23 PM
Once you reduce the stigma, the stigma is reduced for all purposes.

You're stating that it's impossible to maintain a line between consent and non-consent when it comes to societal moral standards. Or is there something special about homosexuality that inherently pushes the consent envelope?

TechnoPrincess
10-14-2006, 04:24 PM
I can't read the article because I've got Wyatt blocked, but following the comments on the thread, I take it that a kid was ganged up on and harmed in some way by a bunch of bullies.

?

Just a guess.

For what it's worth, that's wrong on any level.

Frat/Sorority hazing not excepted.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Avbh5fb8nY

Here's the link that was in Wyatt's post....just the mother/son describing what happened...

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It is wrong and to try to excuse it as funny or a prank is just sickening

Whether he is being a whimp or not is imaterial...what the other guys did to him is WRONG

TechnoPrincess
10-14-2006, 04:34 PM
You're stating that it's impossible to maintain a line between consent and non-consent when it comes to societal moral standards. Or is there something special about homosexuality that inherently pushes the consent envelope?

Gnome, that's not the way I read Kathy's post. What I think she meant is that in the past guys would not have thought such a thing was funny or would be acceptable. But since we've been indoctrinated by the homosexual agenda that what they do is "normal" and "acceptable" we now laugh at such things instead of finding them vulgar. We now call the victim a whimp instead of finding his attackers disgusting.

At least that's how I read what she was trying to say...

And no, there should be nothing special about homosexuality that disallows consent or negates it...

gnome
10-14-2006, 04:45 PM
"The logic doesn't work. You can't pin a non-consensual harassment or assault at the feet of those who wish to reduce the stigma on a consensual activity. They're two separate things." --gnome

Could you translate into dumbass, gnome? My brain is slow today.

I can try to rephrase. The argument seems to be (and forgive me if it is a straw man, I'll happily listen to a clarification) that homosexual sexual assault (non-consensual) is partly caused by the movement to tolerate consensual homosexual behavior.

gnome
10-14-2006, 04:47 PM
Gnome, that's not the way I read Kathy's post. What I think she meant is that in the past guys would not have thought such a thing was funny or would be acceptable. But since we've been indoctrinated by the homosexual agenda that what they do is "normal" and "acceptable" we now laugh at such things instead of finding them vulgar. We now call the victim a whimp instead of finding his attackers disgusting.

Maybe some people... any kind of sexual humiliation is vulgar and offensive to me, it doesn't matter the gender of the people involved.

DesertFox
10-14-2006, 05:00 PM
Me, neither. But I'd take sexual harassment by women aged 18-25 with curvaceous figures and 36D bustlines, much differently than by guys of any age regardless of their figures and bustlines. The former might actually be able to persuade me that it wasn't harassment after all; the latter would die as soon as I got my pistol in my hands.

TechnoPrincess
10-14-2006, 08:09 PM
Maybe some people... any kind of sexual humiliation is vulgar and offensive to me, it doesn't matter the gender of the people involved.

I can completely agree with that statement.

DesertFox
10-14-2006, 08:23 PM
This kind of thing has gone on forever. It was going on when I was in high school in the Sixties. It's no more normal now than it was back then.

Kathy30
10-14-2006, 09:06 PM
Nope this didn't start until 2002.

DesertFox
10-14-2006, 09:19 PM
Baloney. In 1966 something very similar happened to a guy I knew in DeSoto High School in Desoto, Kansas.

What's more, guys used to get drunk and dare each other to pork a cow, or a sheep, or a goat, or whatever was in the local pasture. I didn't drink then (or now), but knew of guys doing it under the goading of the rest. Farm boys did such things.

Guys would get drunk and dare somebody to kiss somebody else's member. Or they'd start out playing like they were gonna cornhole somebody and end up actually doing it -- gang rape.

These things happened when I was in high school. I heard of them happening when my dad was a kid. I have no information farther back than that, but that goes back to the Thirties.

The world has always been a much uglier place than most people ever know about or care to believe. That doesn't change what is.

Lubbock
10-14-2006, 09:27 PM
Maybe some people... any kind of sexual humiliation is vulgar and offensive to me, it doesn't matter the gender of the people involved.

I double dog dare anyone to disagree with that statement --Fox excepted, when it comes to buslines of a certain demension.

DesertFox
10-14-2006, 09:34 PM
Huh? :question:

cerberus
10-15-2006, 12:04 AM
Baloney. In 1966 something very similar happened to a guy I knew in DeSoto High School in Desoto, Kansas.

What's more, guys used to get drunk and dare each other to pork a cow, or a sheep, or a goat, or whatever was in the local pasture. I didn't drink then (or now), but knew of guys doing it under the goading of the rest. Farm boys did such things.

Guys would get drunk and dare somebody to kiss somebody else's member. Or they'd start out playing like they were gonna cornhole somebody and end up actually doing it -- gang rape.

These things happened when I was in high school. I heard of them happening when my dad was a kid. I have no information farther back than that, but that goes back to the Thirties.

The world has always been a much uglier place than most people ever know about or care to believe. That doesn't change what is.
I can't believe it, but on this post, i'm in total agreement with DF. :ooo:
People have been jackholes and weirdos since the dawn of time. The only difference is, in the past it was hushed up and never talked about.

Peachdiane
10-15-2006, 05:28 PM
Nope this didn't start until 2002.

Maybe you FIRST heard of such in 02 , but , it goes waaaaay back .... all the way back to Desert Foxes time ...

Timberwolf
10-15-2006, 05:39 PM
It CAN'T go back much farther...only to DocDoom's time... :biggrin:

Timberwolf
10-15-2006, 05:45 PM
Warning...the following is rather unsettling, to say the very least. If you read it, do not complain that you're offended...you've been warned.

Teabagging, is mild. Can't say I knew the poor sap in the picture one of my FEMALE co-workers showed me...some 25+ years ago...but, he had a cigarette in each nostril and each ear, ALL kinds of grafitti (in bright red lipstick) drawn on his face, was being tea-bagged AND was "smoking" a used tampon. And, as I said, this was around 1979 or 80 so, it's been goin' on for a while.

DesertFox
10-15-2006, 07:39 PM
As I noted, the world is much uglier than many people ever have to know. Depending on your point of view, that's either lucky for them or unlucky -- lucky because who wants to know about such ugliness, unlucky because they are ill equipped to deal with it when it turns up.

I was lucky in never having to personally experience such ugliness but I did find out about it from guys boasting in the gym or between classes or in the boys' room. One thing feminism was partly right about, is that some part of sex IS (can be) about domination, and that's where this crap comes from.

Trevelyan
10-16-2006, 12:05 PM
I can try to rephrase. The argument seems to be (and forgive me if it is a straw man, I'll happily listen to a clarification) that homosexual sexual assault (non-consensual) is partly caused by the movement to tolerate consensual homosexual behavior.

That is the way I read the argument as well, and it is ridiculous if that is indeed the intent behind it.

Maybe some people... any kind of sexual humiliation is vulgar and offensive to me, it doesn't matter the gender of the people involved.

Agreed.