Homophobes's Diatribe Against Amish Murder Victims

[DeclinetoState]

Nauseating, yet not particularly intelligent, IMHO.

http://www.godhatesfags.com/featured/epics/2006/20061002_amish-girls-epic.pdf

Note that it's a PDF file.

The "tract" or whatever you want to call it was put together by Shirley Phelps-Roper.

The tract claims the Amish girls are burning in hell, but doesn't give any specific reasons as to why. There are lots of bold print, italics, CAPITAL LETTERS and exclamation points, however!!

[Lubbock]

Shirley Phelps-Roper and her band of Thugs are not "Homophobes."

I'm a homophobe.

The Roper Thugs are simply depraved, in every way, shape and form, and we all know who's going to burn in hell. And as far as I'm concerned, the sooner the better.

If a parent of one of the fallen soldiers whom the Roper Thugs have harassed and bullied took it upon himself to eliminate the entire bunch by using enough explosives to move the "church" from Kansas to Oklahoma, I say we give that individual the Medal of Honor.

[Longhorn_Platinum]

:unsmile: I guess that when the Rapture occurs, & the Phelpses are still here, they'll say that all the folks who disappeared are burning in Hell.

[Wolfcounsel]

"If a parent of one of the fallen soldiers whom the Roper Thugs have harassed and bullied took it upon himself to eliminate the entire bunch by using enough explosives to move the "church" from Kansas to Oklahoma, I say we give that individual the Medal of Honor." --Lubbock

At least an applause. Taking out chickens and cowards does not require any bravery.<!-- / message -->

[Riverboat]

Shirley Phelps-Roper and her band of Thugs are not "Homophobes."

I'm a homophobe..You too? I engage in homophobic activity at least once a week - I take my youngest to a Boy Scout meeting and help the others earn merit badges. I'm incorrigible.

Elton John is my inspiration.

[Timberwolf]

From their homepage...

JESUS CHRIST DIED ONLY FOR THOSE WHO BELIEVE.

"For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in Him should not perish, but have everlasting life." John 3:16.
See also John 13:1, John 17:9, Ephesians 5:25, etc.Well now, let's see what God REALLY says about the matter. One thing though...Christ died for the atonement of ALL sin. Granted, only those who believe in/on Him receive salvation, but Christ died for ALL of us. Period. End of discussion.

Those who preach God's Word will be held to a higher standard, so I lovingly suggest that the Phelps crew pull their head out of Satan's nether regions and begin to preach the Word IN CONTEXT.


Okey dokey...John 13:1<SUP>1</SUP> Now before the feast of the Passover, when Jesus knew that his hour had come to depart out of this world to the Father, having loved his own who were in the world, he loved them to the end.
According to the Phelps' rendition of Scripture, we're ALL screwed. The above applies only to the 12 disciples. More importantly, one of the 12 was Judas. If Christ loved Judas, I think it's safe to say, He loves EVERYONE...straight, gay, black, white, Christian, Jew, muslim, etc.


John 17:9...to put this one IN CONTEXT, one must read a bit more than the verse itself:<SUP>6</SUP> "I have manifested thy name to the men whom thou gavest me out of the world; thine they were, and thou gavest them to me, and they have kept thy word.

<SUP>7</SUP> Now they know that everything that thou hast given me is from thee;

<SUP>8</SUP> for I have given them the words which thou gavest me, and they have received them and know in truth that I came from thee; and they have believed that thou didst send me.

<SUP>9</SUP> I am praying for them; I am not praying for the world but for those whom thou hast given me, for they are thine;

<SUP>10</SUP> all mine are thine, and thine are mine, and I am glorified in them.

<SUP>11</SUP> And now I am no more in the world, but they are in the world, and I am coming to thee. Holy Father, keep them in thy name, which thou hast given me, that they may be one, even as we are one.
Puts a wee bit different 'spin' on it, wouldn't ya say?


Ephesians 5:25 doesn't really apply, IMHO...but, here it is:<SUP>25</SUP> Husbands, love your wives, as Christ loved the church and gave himself up for her,
These people are psychotic, to be kind...in reality, I believe them to be demon-possessed. If they sue Christians, that only proves my point.

*edit* I can see that the above may seem to apply only to believers, but think of it this way. A cancer may have to be exised from your body to allow you to live, but it is still a part of your body. It is only removed when it begins to do you harm.

I hope that made sense. */edit*

[English_Tessa287]

Has anyone seen "dogma" a truly inspiring movie and i quote selma blair who says "its not what faith you have it is that you have faith" its the only thing that really matters. I'm not religious in the slightest but im not against religion i think that those scum of that lame church should watch it and get their heads fixed "bunch of nutters"

[Kathy30]

The screwy Church has nothing to do with "Church" or "Christianity" neither does it have anything to do with homosexuals.

They are a group of individuals who somehow found each other and a method and excuse to act out their fantasies of being safely obnoxious. In another, braver, day, the group would have appeared at a funeral and been attacked and beaten to the ground by the funeral goers. That would have ended their practices immediately. It would never happen again. Now, we are enlightened and peaceful so we don't. We rely instead on an ineffective and largely absent law enforcement who can't tell the difference between the right to protest and the right to have a funeral in peace.

[2nd_Amendment]

"its not what faith you have it is that you have faith" its the only thing that really matters.

A feel-good witticism from someone who wants to have it both ways, living like hell here upon the earth and then NOT going there afterwards. The fact is it most assuredly IS about WHAT faith you have. How you manifest that faith will demonstrate what that faith is... In the case of the Phelps it's obvious.

[DoctorDoom]

Has anyone seen "dogma" a truly inspiring movie and i quote selma blair who says "its not what faith you have it is that you have faith" its the only thing that really matters.Blair is dead wrong. That lie from hell has condemned countless millions to damnation. Faith in faith is foolishness. Faith must have an object or it is worthless, and the object of the only faith that has any merit is Christ Jesus.

Yes, that's exclusionary. So be it. Christianity is a faith that accepts no others. When Jesus said, "I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me" (John 14:6), He made no exceptions and allowed no alternatives. Therefore, no one can logically say that Christianity is just one "path" and that all religions are equal. If one refuses to accept Christ, one must reject Him. There's no middle ground.

Matt 12:30 He that is not with Me is against Me; and he that gathereth not with Me scattereth abroad.

One who says, "I have no opinion either way about Jesus," is in fact spurning Him, and his judgment unto death is assured unless he changes his mind.

Fact: contradictory religions cannot all be right or equal. 1+0=2 and 1+0=7,344,992 are neither as right as nor equal to 1+0=1. Either only one is right or none of them are. And Christianity is that one.

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From their homepage...

JESUS CHRIST DIED ONLY FOR THOSE WHO BELIEVE.
"For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in Him should not perish, but have everlasting life." John 3:16.
See also John 13:1, John 17:9, Ephesians 5:25, etc.That closely follows Calvinism's teaching that Jesus died only for the "elect", defined by the Calvinists as those whom God chose from eternity past to be saved. He died for no one else, and God preordained that the non-elect were born to be condemned to hell. Calvinism twists Scripture and ignores anything that discredits it, e.g.:

1 Tim 2:3 For this is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Saviour;
4 Who will have all men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth.

2 Pet 3:9 The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.

Obviously all will NOT be saved.

Mat 7:13 Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat:
14 Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.

Our free will, not God's will, determines our fate. The "elect" are not those who were predestined by God for salvation, but rather are those who freely chose to accept God's gift of salvation.

Phelps and crew will have much to answer for on the day of their judgment.

[DeclinetoState]

T-wolf, your post makes at least as much sense as the Phelps-Roper tract.

Kathy, I don't know if they "found" each other, since they're all the same family, AFAIK (except for those who married into it, presumably--unless they're in fact inbred).

If Doom's description of Calvinism is correct, and the Phelps-Ropers are modern-day Calvinists, and the Calvinists are right, then the protesting would seem to be a waste of time. Their actions are not going to save any souls, if said souls are already pre-ordained for hell or heaven.

But getting into a logical discussion with religious fanatics is an equally unproductive use of time.

:(

[Timberwolf]

If Doom's description of Calvinism is correct, and the Phelps-Ropers are modern-day Calvinists, and the Calvinists are right, then the protesting would seem to be a waste of time. Their actions are not going to save any souls, if said souls are already pre-ordained for hell or heaven.
LOL...put that in an email and send it to them!! Ya pretty much hit the Calvinism nail on the head. :biggrin:

[Rhino]

I'm a homophobe.Nope. Don't care for them, and I find the activity disgusting, but I don't fear them, which is what 'phobia' means.

[TechnoPrincess]

Someday the Phelpses and their followers will be standing before the Throne of Grace and I have a feeling that they will be VERY surprised by the result. They fogot the greatest commandment - to love their neighbor as themselves. I don't think that will go over well....

[LightHorseman]

Has anyone seen "dogma" a truly inspiring movie and i quote selma blair who says "its not what faith you have it is that you have faith" its the only thing that really matters. I'm not religious in the slightest but im not against religion i think that those scum of that lame church should watch it and get their heads fixed "bunch of nutters"


Dogma IS a wonderful movie... but its Selma Hyeck (sp?) not Selma Blair [/pedantic criticism]

[DoctorDoom]

It's Salma Hayek. And whether it's Hayek, Blair or Pelosi, the concept, "It's not what faith you have it is that you have faith," is specious, pseudointellectual crap.

As for "Dogma", from the IMDB:

Plot Outline: The last known descendant of Christ is called upon to save the existence of humanity from being negated by two renegade angels trying to exploit a loophole.

MPAA: Rated R for strong language including sex-related dialogue, violence, crude humor and some drug content.

Announcer: Ladies and Gentlemen, the driving force behind Catholicism, wow, Cardinal Glick (George Carlin).
Cardinal Glick: Thank you, thank you, thank you. Now we all know how the majority and the media in this country view the Catholic church. They think of us as a passe, archaic institution. People find the Bible obtuse... even hokey. Now in an effort to disprove all that the church has appointed this year as a time of renewal..."Dogma (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0120655/)

Memorable Quotes from Dogma (1999) (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0120655/quotes)

I'll pass on that blasphemous idiocy, TYVM.

[DeclinetoState]

Someday the Phelpses and their followers will be standing before the Throne of Grace and I have a feeling that they will be VERY surprised by the result. They fogot the greatest commandment - to love their neighbor as themselves. I don't think that will go over well....They haven't "fogot" it; they've just twisted the Bible to suit their own interpretations and prejudices.

[Trevelyan]

Memorable Quotes from Dogma (1999) (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0120655/quotes)


"Any moron with a pack of matches can set a fire. Raining down sulphur is like an endurance trial man. Mass genocide is the most exhausting activity one can engage in, outside of soccer."

That quote is my personal favorite. :)

"Dogma" is my second favorite Kevin Smith film.

[Apollo5600]

I saw that movie... It was just stupid.

[DeclinetoState]

The Amish children from Pennsylvania are even now in hell. Stop spreading the lie that they were innocent. They were just as degenerate and deserving of hell as the pervert who killed them. You get what you deserve, America! You raised these murderous beasts and perverted their minds, and now you act surprised? As long as you people try to stop us, you will be punished, just as Pharaoh was punished when he would not let God's people go (Ex. 12:30). Gov. Ed Rendell brought this down on you, get mad at him, not us!God Hates America (http://www.godhatesamerica.com/index.html)

I haven't looked around at either of their main sites (God Hates America or God Hates Fags) very much lately, but I can't find anything about Gerry Studds (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gerry_Studds).

[Timberwolf]

He was a democrat...they won't say word "boo" about him. Or Bawney Fwank. Or any other democrat.

Yo!! Freddie boy!! Baptists ARE NOT Calvinists!! Not the one's I've met anyway...

[DeclinetoState]

For those not familiar with Fred Phelps, he was once a supporter of Algore. I believe he and/or his son, Fred Jr., have run for office on the Democrat(ic) ticket. So perhaps it's not suprising they're not attacking Democrats (though Phelps Sr. has called Clinton--Bill, that is--the "pervert-in-chief," he's also called W that).

[Timberwolf]

The entire clan is hell-bound for its role in bastardizing Scripture.

[DeclinetoState]

I feel sorry for the brainwashed little kids there. They've never learned the Bible or even to think for themselves.

[LightHorseman]

Theres a video on you tube of Shirley (who the hell spells it with an "e"?) Phelps logically and coherently explaining in rational terms why she goes to soldiers funerals and carries on like a lobotomized chimp.

Anyone want me to dig it out?