View Full Version : Baker Report Demands Israel Give Away Golan Heights
Patrick Henry
12-07-2006, 09:58 AM
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The comprehensive report, which primarily addresses the situation in Iraq, was prepared by Baker and a former Democratic congressman, Lee Hamilton. It states that if the United States does not take a more leading role in the Mideast Israel-Arab conflict, there is no hope of America achieving its goals in the region.
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The Baker-Hamilton report was greeted enthusiastically by leading Palestinian terrorists, who said it proves that "Islamic resistance" works and America can ultimately be defeated. "The report proves that this is the era of Islam and of jihad," Abu Ayman, a senior leader of Islamic Jihad in northern Samaria told Aaron Klein of WorldNetDaily.
"The Americans came to the conclusion that Islam is the new giant of the world and it would be clever to reduce hostilities with this giant," Abu Ayman said. "In the Quran the principle of the rotation is clear and according to this principle the end of the Americans and of all non-believers is getting closer."
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Story here (http://www.israelnationalnews.com/news.php3?id=116989)
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MrSanity
12-07-2006, 10:03 AM
Great.
Now the Jihad Nazis can fire even more rockets at Israel.
This is the consequence of empowering Palestinian apologists.
Patrick Henry
12-07-2006, 10:05 AM
Great.
Now the Jihad Nazis can fire even more rockets at Israel.
This is the consequence of empowering Palestinian apologists.
EXACTLY!
Rhino
12-07-2006, 10:06 AM
Actually, Israel has stated before that it would be willing to give back the Golan heights if they had assurances that no further assaults would be mounted from there (it's a strategic position), but they don't have said assurances.
Westbrook
12-07-2006, 10:17 AM
Actually, Israel has stated before that it would be willing to give back the Golan heights if they had assurances that no further assaults would be mounted from there (it's a strategic position), but they don't have said assurances.
Even if Israel DID get such assurances, they would be nothing but "taqiyya", the MoHamHead word for "treachery and deceit", and not worth the breath it would take to speak them nor the electrons necessary to transmit the sounds over the neural passages to the brain's perception area.
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Rhino
12-07-2006, 10:21 AM
That's why they haven't gotten them. They're smart enough to ignore hollow promises.
Kathy30
12-07-2006, 10:25 AM
James Baker is a traitor to HUMANITY.
Patriot Heart
12-07-2006, 10:29 AM
Who picked those has-been coots to lead that group anyway? Geez. God forbid we should gather a group of battle hardened Generals and First Sergeants to come up with ideas.....
The_Sonarman
12-07-2006, 11:31 AM
Baker and Hamilton can shove their report.
Giving up the Golan Heights just means the murderous Arabs would start hauling rockets up on that mountain, and using the advantage of the "high ground" to fire rockets into the nearby Israeli cities. It doesn't matter what "assurances" the various Arabs might give. Israel would be suffering rocket attacks from that position almost the day after they might give up that site. The same thing happened with they gave up the Gaza Strip. The first thing that happened was all the synagogues were desecrated, and the second thing was the beginning of rocket attacks across the border.
The Israelis know it. The Arabs know it. Baker and Hamilton certainly know it. The World Press knows it. Yet, we still play this little "land for Peace" game, which has been repeatedly demonstrated to not work.
d'urville
12-07-2006, 06:17 PM
This is predicatble coming from Jim Baker, he still has that fantasy that there can be peace in the Middle East if everyone plays nice and shares.
A verifiable cessation of arms shipments from or transiting through Syria for Hamas and other radical Palestinian groups. <LI type=disc>A Syrian commitment to help obtain from Hamas an acknowledgment of Israel’s right to exist.
Greater Syrian efforts to seal its border with Iraq.
RECOMMENDATION 16: In exchange for these actions and in the context of a full and secure peace agreement, the Israelis should return the Golan Heights, with a U.S. security guaran- tee for Israel that could include an international force on the border, including U.S. troops if requested by both parties.
RECOMMENDATION 17: Concerning the Palestinian issue, elements of that negotiated peace should include:
Adherence to UN Security Council Resolutions 242 and 338 and to the principle of land for peace, which are the only bases for achieving peace. <LI type=disc>Strong support for Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas and the Palestinian Authority to take the lead in preparing the way for negotiations with Israel.
<LI type=disc>A major effort to move from the current hostilities by consolidating the cease-fire reached between the Palestinians and the Israelis in November 2006.
Support for a Palestinian national unity government
http://truthlaidbear.com/isg/isgreport.php?page=75
Then, all you have to do is to return the Golan Heights to Syria, and reset Israel's borders to the way they were in 1966? Think Syria can intervene and make Hamas give up their old goal to wipe out Israel? And expect Abu Mazen to work for peace with Israel for the first time ever ever?
Land for peace didn't work so well in Gaza.
Kathy30
12-07-2006, 06:31 PM
The land for peace the muslims want is the entire state of Israel.
Beowulf
12-07-2006, 06:49 PM
And I guess this means that the Palestinians have to give nothing? Why does it figure?:flame:
DoctorDoom
12-07-2006, 06:56 PM
The land for peace the muslims want is the entire state of Israel.Here's the proof from an official Palesterrorist website.
http://www.ipc.gov.ps/ipc_a/ipc_a-1/a_map/pal-e.jpg
PaulRevere
12-08-2006, 01:16 AM
The Golan is the major source of water for Israel, also. Surrendering their water source would allow the Syrians to destroy them without firing a shot - or force the Israelis to attack, proving once again that the Israelis are the problem.
MrSanity
12-08-2006, 07:52 AM
And I guess this means that the Palestinians have to give nothing? Why does it figure?:flame:All they have to do to steal land is "recognize Israel."
Not that they ever fulfill their end of the deal, but it's working quite well for them.
Ironic, ain't it?
MrSanity
12-08-2006, 07:54 AM
Here's the proof from an official Palesterrorist website.
http://www.ipc.gov.ps/ipc_a/ipc_a-1/a_map/pal-e.jpgThat map is similar to the one my father described when he was on a plane in Saudi Arabia. They refuse to include Israel in their maps, most Middle East nations.
Maggie_T
12-08-2006, 08:06 AM
Baker has always been in the Arab payroll. He is one of the major lobbyists for Arabs. While this is not surprising, it still is extremely irritating. :flame:
Kathy30
12-08-2006, 08:35 AM
I knew nothing about Baker until a few days ago when I discovered it was he who negotiated the slaughter of the Lebanese Christians with Syria in exchange for support during Gulf War I.
James Baker gave the nod to Syria to invade and occupy Lebanon and kill all those people for a political point. It's disgusting, simply disgusting.
MrSanity
12-08-2006, 09:22 AM
Why does George W. Bush want anything to do with this guy?
The_Sonarman
12-08-2006, 11:03 AM
The Israelis are so concerned with this Report, and possibility it signals a US policy shift, that Israel's Prime Minister is in Washington today to speak to George Bush about it. Luckily, it appears GWB hasn't been BS'ed by this report.
I knew this report was a bunch of crap the second I saw both Hamilton and Baker repeatedly emphasizing this report was "comprehensive", and that one "can't pick and choose" parts of the report.... that one MUST accept the entire report "as is".
Maggie_T
12-08-2006, 11:13 AM
I knew this report was a bunch of crap the second I saw both Hamilton and Baker repeatedly emphasizing this report was "comprehensive", and that one "can't pick and choose" parts of the report.... that one MUST accept the entire report "as is".
Yes, I noticed that. :flame: It's a load of crap. And it comes out on both sides of issues, too. On the one side, it says we should cut and run and remnove all American presence, and on the other, it says we should leave some of the military there "just in case."
So which is it, morons?
MrSanity
12-08-2006, 11:40 AM
The Israelis are so concerned with this Report, and possibility it signals a US policy shift, that Israel's Prime Minister is in Washington today to speak to George Bush about it. Luckily, it appears GWB hasn't been BS'ed by this report.I expect Bush to remain steadfast. After all the crap he has taken for the war in Iraq, I don't see him backing down.
Wyatt_Junker
12-08-2006, 11:44 AM
What's James baking anyway? Hash?
DoctorDoom
12-08-2006, 11:57 AM
The "report" is self-destructing. It's just the latest example of Bush-bashing, America-hating lefties wasting taxpayer money on meaningless political spinfests.
DoctorDoom
12-08-2006, 11:58 AM
What's James baking anyway? Whatever it is, its half-baked.
Air-Warrior
12-08-2006, 12:19 PM
That map is similar to the one my father described when he was on a plane in Saudi Arabia. They refuse to include Israel in their maps, most Middle East nations.
This "Palestine" map has always been the way that Muslims and Arabs have seen the Middle East.
Baker should be thrown to the lions for feeding the monkeys.
HooverWasRight
12-08-2006, 12:54 PM
Why does George W. Bush want anything to do with this guy?
LOL
Bush is just riding this presidency out. It's over the fat lady has sung, and Bush is awol.
Patrick Henry
12-09-2006, 01:36 PM
The fact that such a study took place is an admission of failure on the part of those that suggested it. And it offers nothing but an excuse to forward the anti-Israeli agenda at the behest of the Jew-hating Arabs.
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