View Full Version : Black Owner of LA Night Club Welcomes N-Word
Beowulf
12-09-2006, 02:41 PM
This'll piss off Shaptongue and Jackoff!!!:evilgrin:
LOS ANGELES - <?XML:NAMESPACE PREFIX = AT /><AT:CLASS></AT:CLASS>In response to attacks on Michael Richards' use of the n-word during a performance at the Laugh Factory, the black owner of another club has welcomed comics who use the term.
<AT:CLASS></AT:CLASS>"Someone had to stand up for comics and freedom of speech has to rule the day," said Enss Mitchell, owner of Comedy Union. "No matter if you agree or disagree with what someone says, you have to allow them the opportunity to say it."
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I don't support nor condone it but if we ban one word, where will it end? It won't.
DesertFox
12-09-2006, 02:58 PM
Nobody has banned "honky" yet. Or "cracker." Or "motha fukka."
Wyatt_Junker
12-09-2006, 05:05 PM
This is good news because the Laugh Factory caved in last week and had a press release of their new policy which was every time a comedian said 'nigger' they would be fined $20.
Its a brave new world out there and the diction SWAT enforcements are reminiscent of Demolition Man.
Talk about kicking comedy right in the nuts.
(I don't really believe its a FOS issue because these are private clubs, but it still shows you the power of the socially 'correct' ethos.)
DesertFox
12-09-2006, 06:21 PM
Well, I think we should take a stand here. It's a question of principle. I think using the phrase, "Aw, man, shit!" oughtta be grounds for beheading.
Eagle1
12-09-2006, 06:30 PM
people who get offended shouldnt be going to shitty comedy clubs anyway
comics say much more tasteless things than racial slurs
MrSanity
12-11-2006, 08:23 AM
Good for him - in the cause of free speech.
MrSanity
12-11-2006, 08:24 AM
Maybe he'd be happy to invite Michael Richards.
:biglaugh:
Gonzo67
12-11-2006, 08:48 AM
Well, if you look at the word, the "uproar" it produces is the finest in comedy anyway.
Up until quite recently, you could not find the word "nigger" in any dictionary. It derives from a few different words:
The "main supplier" of the words evolution comes from a perfectly acceptable form of it: Niggard. This from Dictionary.com -
<CITE>Dictionary.com Unabridged (v 1.0.1)</CITE> (http://dictionary.reference.com/help/luna.html) - Cite This Source (http://dictionary.reference.com/cite.html?qh=niggard&ia=luna) <!-- google_ad_region_start=def -->
nig·gard http://cache.lexico.com/dictionary/graphics/luna/thinsp.png/ˈnɪghttp://cache.lexico.com/dictionary/graphics/luna/thinsp.pngərd/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[nig-erd] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation http://cache.lexico.com/g/d/speaker.gif (https://secure.reference.com/premium/login.html?rd=2&u=http%3A%2F%2Fdictionary.reference.com%2Fbrowse%2 Fniggard) http://cache.lexico.com/g/d/premium.gif –noun <TABLE class=luna-Ent><TBODY><TR><TD class=dn vAlign=top>1.</TD><TD vAlign=top>an excessively parsimonious, miserly, or stingy person. </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>–adjective <TABLE class=luna-Ent><TBODY><TR><TD class=dn vAlign=top>2.</TD><TD vAlign=top>niggardly; miserly; stingy. </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>
<HR class=ety>[Origin: 1325–75; ME nyggard, equiv. to nig niggard (< Scand; cf. dial. Sw nygg; akin to OE hnéaw stingy) + -ard (http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=-ard)http://cache.lexico.com/dictionary/graphics/luna/thinsp.png]
<!-- google_ad_region_end=def --><TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 border=0><TBODY><TR><TD><CITE>Dictionary.com Unabridged (v 1.0.1)
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The definition has been altered from dictionary to dictionary, but basically, it's accepted that the word means "A stupid, or stubborn person". Which is what many slave owners considered slaves to be. Hence the word (ending in D) was tacked on to the African or black slaves. Eventually, with discoveries of other words, like the Spanish word for "Black" - negro, we've come to the understanding that the "D" from "niggard" was lost along the way, and blacks were commonly referred to based on the Spanish word, they were called "negros" and the word "niggard" was still in use without the D.
Up until recently, as I said earlier, "nigger" could not be found in the dictionary, it has since been added, and now this is a common listing, again from dictionary.com:
<CITE>Dictionary.com Unabridged (v 1.0.1)</CITE> (http://dictionary.reference.com/help/luna.html) - Cite This Source (http://dictionary.reference.com/cite.html?qh=nigger&ia=luna) <!-- google_ad_region_start=def -->
nig·ger http://cache.lexico.com/dictionary/graphics/luna/thinsp.png/ˈnɪghttp://cache.lexico.com/dictionary/graphics/luna/thinsp.pngər/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[nig-er] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation —Usage note The term nigger is now probably the most offensive word in English. Its degree of offensiveness has increased markedly in recent years, although it has been used in a derogatory manner since at least the Revolutionary War. Definitions 1a, 1b, and 2 represent meanings that are deeply disparaging and are used when the speaker deliberately wishes to cause great offense. Definition 1a, however, is sometimes used among African-Americans in a neutral or familiar way. Definition 3 is not normally considered disparaging—as in “The Irish are the niggers of Europe” from Roddy Doyle's The Commitments—but the other uses are considered contemptuous and hostile.
–noun <TABLE class=luna-Ent><TBODY><TR><TD class=dn vAlign=top>1.</TD><TD vAlign=top>Slang: Extremely Disparaging and Offensive. <TABLE class=luna-Ent><TBODY><TR><TD class=dn vAlign=top>a.</TD><TD vAlign=top>a black person. </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE><TABLE class=luna-Ent><TBODY><TR><TD class=dn vAlign=top>b.</TD><TD vAlign=top>a member of any dark-skinned people. </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE><TABLE class=luna-Ent><TBODY><TR><TD class=dn vAlign=top>2.</TD><TD vAlign=top>Slang: Extremely Disparaging and Offensive. a person of any race or origin regarded as contemptible, inferior, ignorant, etc. </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE><TABLE class=luna-Ent><TBODY><TR><TD class=dn vAlign=top>3.</TD><TD vAlign=top>a victim of prejudice similar to that suffered by blacks; a person who is economically, politically, or socially disenfranchised. </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>
<HR class=ety>[Origin: 1640–50; < F nègre < Sp negro blackhttp://cache.lexico.com/dictionary/graphics/luna/thinsp.png]
<!-- google_ad_region_end=def --><TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 border=0><TBODY><TR><TD><CITE>Dictionary.com Unabridged (v 1.0.1)
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Of course, no "credit" is given to the origin words that caused this word to evolve into being, and even though it's a word that was "made up" based on misunderstanding of definitions, and a "trimming" of another word, it's treated as a whole new word.
It's my belief that white people should begin "taking words back". If anyone has seen Clerks II, there's a "racism" angle in a scene, where Randal (a white guy) refers to himself as a "porch monkey" and offends a black customer in line. He insists that "porch monkey" is NOT a racial term, and argues that his grandmother used to call him a porch monkey, and he decides that since it's been deemed "racist", he's going to take the word back and reclaim it for the white people. So he spends the rest of the movie with the phrase "PORCH MONKEY 4 LIFE" spelled out on the back of his work smock in tape.
So if you want to "end racism", I suggest us white people start taking back our words. From now on, when you see someone acting in a stupid, selfish, or stubborn manner, call them a niggard. Use the term often, in public, against people of ALL races. Phase out the word "nigger" and eventually, the English language will get back to the way it's SUPPOSED to be. Where you use a word and people understand the word for it's DEFINITION, not what they THINK YOU MEAN by it.
Patrick Henry
12-11-2006, 08:53 AM
There is NO Constitutional right not to be offended.
Maggie_T
12-11-2006, 09:41 AM
Black Owner of LA Night Club Welcomes N-Word
Only when pronounced by other nig ... ahem, other African Americans, I'm ready to bet.
Teenager
12-11-2006, 01:09 PM
I don't support nor condone it but if we ban one word, where will it end? It won't.
If I could ban one word, it wouldn't be "nigger." It'd be "Clinton.":evilgrin:
BTW, here's the Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nigger) article on the nword.
Pennville_Bill
12-12-2006, 01:16 PM
Careful Teenager - While I understand your sentiment you must consider that apart from Bubba and the Hildebeast, there are probably thousands, if not millions of people named "Clinton" who don't deserve any sort of banishment.
I do however take your point and agree that the two main Billary folks need locked away........
DesertFox
12-12-2006, 01:23 PM
It wrecked my summer a couple years back when I drove from Phoenix to Dallas to see my grandkids. I found out that in Western Oklahoma is a town name of Chelsea. About 30 miles down the way is another Western Oklahoma town named Clinton.
Pennville_Bill
12-12-2006, 01:39 PM
It wrecked my summer a couple years back when I drove from Phoenix to Dallas to see my grandkids. I found out that in Western Oklahoma is a town name of Chelsea. About 30 miles down the way is another Western Oklahoma town named Clinton.
That's enough to make someone car sick...........:sad:
Gonzo67
12-12-2006, 01:39 PM
What about:
Dicksville Notch, CA
Ding Dong, TX
Earth, TX
Intercourse, PA
Jackass Flats, NV
Kilgore, TX - You know old Al feels loved here.
Licking, MO
Nowhere, AZ
Odd, WV
Truth or Consequences, NM
Uncle Toms, CA
Why, AZ
Whynot, MS
Yum Yum, TN
Zzyzx Springs, CA
DesertFox
12-12-2006, 04:18 PM
My favorites were always Seven Cigars, Mexico and Dirty Face, El Salvador.
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