Democrat majority - what was that again?

[Kathy30]

Maybe not.

http://www.breitbart.com/news/2006/12/13/D8M07D081.html

[Incident_command]

Sounds like a TIA. Transient Ischemic Attack. A indication of things to come if corrective measures aren't taken.

http://www.americanheart.org/presenter.jhtml?identifier=4781

[Rhino]

I'd hate to be that governor. LOL!

[DeclinetoState]

Johnson became disoriented during a call with reporters at midday, stuttering in response to a question. He appeared to recover, asking if there were any additional questions before ending the call.

If it had been Ted Kennedy, it wouldn't have even been newsworthy.

[DesertFox]

Not to be churlish, but what the hell -- may he get worse quick.

[PaulRevere]

Sad, though, that he's the only Democrat senator getting brain surgery. They all need it.

[Republican_Legion]

YAY ! We might get a majority back !
I hope he doesnt get well. Seriously I dont give a shit about a Liberal Democrat who will sell out the country to terrorists. Hopefully the surgeon has shaky hands.

I do hope the Republican govenor doesnt appoint some wimpy Mau Der It(Moderate) thats Pro-TaxIncreases and Pro-Choice. We need every vote possible to get another Alito on the court to bring this country back to sanity.

[HomeschoolrsRUs]

Sounds like a TIA. Transient Ischemic Attack. A indication of things to come if corrective measures aren't taken.

That's exactly what I thought, IC! Had this happen to my ex-brother-in-law, a couple of weeks after my sister-in-law kicked him out. He leaves for work (worked with his dad) around 3am, and when he hadn't shown up by 9am, they sent someone to find him -- found him unconscious on the floor of his bathroom. They had waited so long, then his parents and my sister-in-law wasted more time arguing over who could direct his care in his name. He'll never be the same again -- was just 40 years old too.

My prayers go out for his speedy recovery -- and for his family, who will be suffering through this with him.


As for his seat and so forth, should it become necessary, it certainly wouldn't be such a bad thing if a republican could get the temp-seat. Funny how in the article they make a point of referring to him as "The centrist Democrat (http://search.breitbart.com/q?s=%22The+centrist+Democrat+%22&sid=breitbart.com)".

[Maggie_T]

Not to be churlish, but what the hell -- may he get worse quick.

:evilgrin: :evilgrin: :evilgrin: My feelings, exactly, Fox.

Ok, in honor of Christmas, I shall just say, may he need complete and undisturbed rest indefinitely.

[Federal Farmer]

My prayers go out for his speedy recovery -- and for his family, who will be suffering through this with him.
Agreed. Good to see another poster here of like mind.

[ThomasMore]

That's exactly what I thought, IC! Had this happen to my ex-brother-in-law, a couple of weeks after my sister-in-law kicked him out. He leaves for work (worked with his dad) around 3am, and when he hadn't shown up by 9am, they sent someone to find him -- found him unconscious on the floor of his bathroom. They had waited so long, then his parents and my sister-in-law wasted more time arguing over who could direct his care in his name. He'll never be the same again -- was just 40 years old too.

My prayers go out for his speedy recovery -- and for his family, who will be suffering through this with him.


As for his seat and so forth, should it become necessary, it certainly wouldn't be such a bad thing if a republican could get the temp-seat. Funny how in the article they make a point of referring to him as "The centrist Democrat (http://search.breitbart.com/q?s=%22The+centrist+Democrat+%22&sid=breitbart.com)".

I am sorry to hear about your ex-brother-in-law. Sad, especially at such a young age.

I do hope the Reps take the Senate back. I guess we will have to wait and see what happens.

I have joined your prayers with mine, for Sen. Johnson's full recovery. He doesn't stand for what I believe in, but that is beside the point.

[Jag Wife]

Agreed. Good to see another poster here of like mind.

And his family as well.

Besides, it would be pathetic to watch the democrats do a Weekend at Bernies for the next 2 years.

[Patriot Heart]

Sad, though, that he's the only Democrat senator getting brain surgery. They all need it.

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They say he is in critical condition.


S.D. Sen. Johnson in Critical Condition
Dec 14 1:35 PM US/Eastern

Democratic Sen. Tim Johnson was in critical condition recovering from emergency brain surgery Thursday, creating political drama over whether his illness could cost Democrats newly won control of the Senate.
The South Dakota (http://search.breitbart.com/q?s=%22South+Dakota%22&sid=breitbart.com) senator, 59, suffered from bleeding in the brain caused by a congenital malformation, the U.S. Capitol physician said. He described the surgery as successful.
The condition, usually present at birth, causes tangled blood vessels that can burst unexpectedly later in life


http://www.breitbart.com/news/2006/12/14/D8M0PJ200.html

[Rhino]

Latest 'unofficial' report is that he "looks great".

[Patriot Heart]

Could be wishful thinking by Harry Reid. He also would not answers questions about the senator's condition beyond saying her "looked great".

[Ant]

Bunch of vultures... You guys are actually hoping this guy doesn't recover?

[ThomasMore]

Could be wishful thinking by Harry Reid. He also would not answers questions about the senator's condition beyond saying her "looked great".

Or congenital dishonesty. I don't believe for a minute that Sen. Johnson, or anyone else for that matter, "looks great" while in critical condition following brain surgery. Johnson was apparently unable to speak: not a sign of somebody who "looks great."

Sen. Harry Reid will say whatever he believes advances the Dems. Truth has nothing to do with it.

[Phil Osophical]

As a Christian (of sorts and kind of), I know it is harsh, uncivil, boorish and very unchristianlike not to wish someone a speedy recovery. Nevertheless ... he's a Democrat. Democrats are the most horrific enemies this Christian, conservative nation will ever face. They are committing crimes against humanity and the conservative peoples of the United States.

Democrats are sympathetic to Muslim terrorists who want to murder conservatives. They will dismantle the Patriot Act and Homeland Security in order to facilitate and encourage terrorist, Jihadist activities against white conservative America. Democrats, for the sake of harvesting votes, encourage the banding together of all minorities in a united effort to destroy the white conservative. Democrats praise African-American leaders who call for the extermination of the white race.

To me they are the same as an enemy soldier trying to kill me. No wait! Democrats are indescribably worse. The enemy soldier and I in Vietnam were only doing our duty. Democrats are cowardly, spiteful, racist, hateful, self-serving hypocrities. Not only do they want to kill me, but my children and grandchildren as well. Democrats are more dangerous than "radical" Muslims. "Radical" Muslims take great pride and delight in announcing they want to kill us. Democrats are too cowardly to admit they want to kill us. I have more respect for "radical" Muslims than Democrats.

I apologize for ranting.

Merry Christmas

[Maggie_T]

No apologies necessary, Phil. On the contrary, thanks for your honesty. Things were getting a bit mushy around here.

[Rhino]

Bunch of vultures... You guys are actually hoping this guy doesn't recover?Who are you including in "you guys"?

[DesertFox]

Yes, Ant. Speaking just for myself, I hope the guy doesn't recover -- at least, that he doesn't recover enough to return to Congress. You got a problem with that? Have you any idea what liberals would be saying in this situation if it were a GOPer involved? I will be no more, and no less, compassionate than my enemy, and liberals are indeed enemies -- of me, of my country, of mankind.

[Rhino]

I'd love to see a Republican majority, but I won't go so far as to wish death or disablement on a person to attain it.

[Maggie_T]

Nobody does, Rhino. Some people just do not have the sense to take things in proportion.

What I said was

Ok, in honor of Christmas, I shall just say, may he need complete and undisturbed rest indefinitely.

I never meant I wanted him to die. I just meant I wanted him to stay away from congress so that a Republican could take his place. If anyone has a problem with that, TOUGH.

I am up till here with all this kissy-feely mushiness. Nobody wants anybody to die, if that is what's getting some panties in a twist ... no, wait. Liberals have been praying to whoever it is they pray that Bush would be assassinated since 2000.

Sorry. My mistake.

Then again, I was speaking for myself and my friend Fox.<!-- / message --><!-- sig -->

[DesertFox]

Mags has it just right. But I will take it just a little further. I hold the good of the country to be more important than the good of this one man, and I think the situation in America has deteriorated to the point that it does matter -- a lot -- who runs things. If this guy recovers, Democrats will run Congress and I shudder to think what havoc they will wreak.

My daughters and grandkids are growing up in America. If I could ensure decency and common sense in America by paralyzing myself, I'd do it in a heartbeat. If this man not being in good-enough health to return to Congress kept liberals from ruining the country where my daughters and grandkids will live after I'm gone, I don't give two shits about his health.

[DoctorDoom]

Bunch of vultures... You guys are actually hoping this guy doesn't recover?Speaking of vultures, Rush played a bunch of MSM sound bites about Johnson. The focus of every one of them was the RATs losing the Senate majority. Not a fugging one gave a thought to Johnson's medical condition.

If you want to see soulless, heartless son of bitches, bug, look no further than the RATs and their media ass-kissers.

[DesertFox]

Exactly, Doc. We all remember how heartbroken the Democrats were at Wellstone's funeral.

[Maggie_T]

Hear, hear.

[Rhino]

I never meant I wanted him to die.I didn't mean to imply that anyone did. I too, was just speaking for myself.

[Maggie_T]

I'd love to see what the "compassionate" reaction at DU or any other cesspool of the sort would be if suddenly - God forbid - Bush, or Rummy, or Condi, or any other prominent conservative was taken ill.

Give me a break.

[Rhino]

Like when Cheney had heart problems?

[Maggie_T]

Exactly. Like that, for instance.

[Beowulf]

Bunch of vultures... You guys are actually hoping this guy doesn't recover?

I wouldn't wish that on anyone! Hopefully he will be OK.

[DeclinetoState]

What do you think Bill would do if Hillary were to suddenly take ill?

[DesertFox]

Check to make sure he was the beneficiary.

[MSGT]

And his family as well.

Besides, it would be pathetic to watch the democrats do a Weekend at Bernies for the next 2 years.

:rotflmbo::rotflmbo::rotflmbo:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/b/bf/Weekend-at-bernies.jpg

Bunch of vultures... You guys are actually hoping this guy doesn't recover?
Not at all. I hope he has a full recovery tonight, realizes the frailty of life and resigns his seat tomorrow.


But thats in a perfect world.

[Longhorn_Platinum]

Ant:
Bunch of vultures... You guys are actually hoping this guy doesn't recover?

:unsmile: I wish him health & a good life. I also wish the same for the unborn that he favors killing.

[MSGT]

I wish him well and wish Pelosi and Kennedy could take the dirt nap. Throw Carter in the hole too.

[MSGT]

also Reid and Schumer

[ThomasMore]

No apologies necessary, Phil. On the contrary, thanks for your honesty. Things were getting a bit mushy around here.

Maggie, if you are talking in part about my post, I said that I want the Senate back. But that has everything to do with the voters and the damage the Republican Party did to itself. I am not about to wish death or illness on Johnson because my party forgot its mission and the the voters lack the brains and the common sense to vote in the country's interest.

If that isn't enough for you, I'm sorry.

[DeclinetoState]

The ideal result would be for Johnson to recover from the illness but retire from his Senate seat and become South Dakota's new "elder statesman," thereby displacing that senile old coot, George McGovern.

[Maggie_T]

Maggie, if you are talking in part about my post, I said that I want the Senate back. But that has everything to do with the voters and the damage the Republican Party did to itself. I am not about to wish death or illness on Johnson because my party forgot its mission and the the voters lack the brains and the common sense to vote in the country's interest.

If that isn't enough for you, I'm sorry.

Tom, in the first place, my reply was not meant for you. It was meant for the censorious likes of Ant. In the second place, NOBODY wishes death on ANYBODY. All people in of same frame of mind said that it would be beneficial to get the senate back in 'pub hands, and to get that, we wished that Johnson went home and retired, NOT died.

But knowing democrats, I have visions of poor Johnson being put through the ultimate indignity of being dragged into the senate in a wheelchair, incoherent, drooling out of the corner of his mouth, just to prevent the senate from falling republican hands again.

Now THAT'S vulturesque in my book. But that's just me, the inconsiderate one. :sulk:

[Lazarus]

Speaking of vultures, Rush played a bunch of MSM sound bites about Johnson. The focus of every one of them was the RATs losing the Senate majority. Not a fugging one gave a thought to Johnson's medical condition.

If you want to see soulless, heartless son of bitches, bug, look no further than the RATs and their media ass-kissers.That's what its all about... Power! I heard Mankow on Fox News this morning going into meltdown saying just that... As he said, neither party is concerned about the American people - Its all about party politics and control... And I agree! Im sick of the whole thing...

[Lazarus]

...But knowing democrats, I have visions of poor Johnson being put through the ultimate indignity of being dragged into the senate in a wheelchair, incoherent, drooling out of the corner of his mouth, just to prevent the senate from falling republican hands again....They dont even have to do that, Maggie... As Rush pointed out yesterday, Unless a member of the Senate has violated ethics standards (which is not applicable here), only the Senator himself, or a state recall election can remove him from office... Thus, he could remain incapacitated and never re-enter the Senate chamber, and the Dems would hold onto their majority... He would only be needed in the event that a one-vote margin occurs on any particular Senate bill...

[DesertFox]

It's really sad, but when one guy in a fight goes dirty, the other has to do it too in order to have any chance of winning.

The real culprit in the descent of American politics is the press, which has not done its job as "honest broker," the heralded "Fourth Estate."

[Lazarus]

It's really sad, but when one guy in a fight goes dirty, the other has to do it too in order to have any chance of winning.

The real culprit in the descent of American politics is the press, which has not done its job as "honest broker," the heralded "Fourth Estate."I doubt anyone here disagrees that the MSM has become the most vile of human life on the planet, but in truth, Politics in Washington is as decent as the members of Congress want it to be... The press doesnt set the agenda or the dignity of the Congressional precedings - The members of Congress do... They alone are responsible for their behavior...

[Maggie_T]

I agree with both Fox and Laz. It's not about principles, values, etc. anymore. It's all about money and power. Even voters have been pushed into the game.

It's a shame, really.

[DesertFox]

Laz, I didn't say the press was responsible for Congresssional behavior. I said the press hasn't done its job as honest broker. It should be howling when ANY Congresscritter from ANY Party breaks the rules, whether laws, rules of Congress or just the rules of common decency. Publicizing such crap humiliates the catchee and discourages that kind of behavior since nobody wants to be publicly humiliated.

Also, as I noted, when one side goes dirty, the other side has no choice but to do it, too -- UNLESS the press exposes the first guy. But when the first guy gets away with it, others jump on the dirty-tricks bandwagon just to keep up. Surely you've been in a fight where you thought there would be no kicking. Then the other guy lands a solid size 11 on you and you're immediately at a disadvantage because now you're hurt. That's my analogy and it's accurate.

None of this has said a thing about Congresscritters not being responsible for their own behavior. But the press AND the DA are supposed to say something about misbehavior -- in ways that powerfully discourage it.

[Federal Farmer]

That's what its all about... Power! I heard Mankow on Fox News this morning going into meltdown saying just that... As he said, neither party is concerned about the American people - Its all about party politics and control... And I agree! Im sick of the whole thing...
I'm in agreement with your post Lazarus, and also with ThomasMore's.

From a political standpoint, we're speaking of power no matter the costs. I'm not speaking here of the present thread topic, but rather of the disease that has spread thoughout the entire body politic: the grab for power at any cost; both parties are guilty but because I've voted Republican since I was of age to vote my interest lies there. And the Republicans have shown me enough to see they only want power for themselves, not to do the will of their constituents. And the Republican will to have that power no matter the cost, has cost true conservatives everything; for Republicans will do what is necessary to get and keep power, and what they do therein has invariably been inimical to conservative ends. Illegals anybody?

Since the election I've been pondering just what the conservative movement has accomplished politically, especially over the last 26 years, through its marriage to the GOP; the answer is nothing. Depressing yes, but true. Tax cuts, big deal. How about repealing the 16th? Oh, but some will say be patient, small steps will get us there. Right. Do the Departments of Education and Energy still exist? How about the National Endowment for the Arts? All were once in conservatives' crosshairs. When's the last time you heard a Republican speak to these issues, let alone do something of substance about them? Conservatives in power. Right.

Conservatives have sought change through helping to give power to the GOP. But the GOP invariably forgets the conservatives once they are in power. They have proven themselves unworthy of a conservatives' vote. Conservatives must scream just to get a SCOTUS nominee they think they'll like. Throw the dog a bone.

I think change will come about only through a grass-roots approach, working change in the minds and hearts of the electorate itself, "homeschooling" if you will since public education will not teach it, but rather the status quo. Change the electorate, and the parties must follow most particularly the Republicans in getting back to conservative principles. Picture an electorate that demanded Social Security not be reformed, but virtually eliminated because a person's retirement is that person's problem, not his neighbor's (remember when I spoke of illegals? How are SS and illegals connected?). If such an electorate existed the Republicans would wet their finger, stick it in the air, and change course accordingly. Even the Democrats would "adjust" their vision to be in line with the "new centrist" view. Unless this change occurs in the electorate,to get and keep power, both the Republicans and Democrats will give the proletarians what they demand. Welfare for all, rich or poor. Power to the Party translates to legislatures cowering, and demands met. Do not ask a politician to get up on a soapbox and preach conservative principles. The status quo must not be shaken. Think Dole, 1996. Bottom line, we have no leaders so the followers need to be changed.

You want change? Preach Christianity, preach personal responsibility, preach conservative principles to thy neighbor; if you must vote, vote for true conservative candidates, we know they'll scarcely have a (D) next to their name but most likely also they'll be the ones without an (R) next to their name as well. Most of us here won't live to see the day, but better this than seeking the power that only corrupts, the status quo.

Still, changing the heart and mind of the electorate is a long uphill battle. As long as the economic numbers are good or decent, the electorate, the proletarians, seek not change. Perhaps only a catastrophe will bring about the change in the electorate I speak of.

[ThomasMore]

Tom, in the first place, my reply was not meant for you. It was meant for the censorious likes of Ant. In the second place, NOBODY wishes death on ANYBODY. All people in of same frame of mind said that it would be beneficial to get the senate back in 'pub hands, and to get that, we wished that Johnson went home and retired, NOT died.

But knowing democrats, I have visions of poor Johnson being put through the ultimate indignity of being dragged into the senate in a wheelchair, incoherent, drooling out of the corner of his mouth, just to prevent the senate from falling republican hands again.

Now THAT'S vulturesque in my book. But that's just me, the inconsiderate one. :sulk:

Maggie, I can't find anything I disagree with there...and I clearly remember both the Wellstone funeral and the many death wishes directed at conservatives by the "compassionate" libs.

[Beowulf]

I agree with both Fox and Laz. It's not about principles, values, etc. anymore. It's all about money and power. Even voters have been pushed into the game.

It's a shame, really.

All that and the line of hatred the Democrats created after the 2000 election. They can't see beyond it and toe it religiously.

[TheIrishman]

TIAs are light strokes that do not require anything like surgery. Most lose a little something like memory, or math skill but not nearly everything like Johnson.

[Rhino]

This wasn't a stroke. He has a congenital condition that causes it. The results are about the same though.

[d'urville]

He' still in critical condition. This article is vague with the details, but he'll be in the hospital until at least December 28, according to his family:

http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/p...3-johnson.html (http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/politics/20061219-1443-johnson.html)

Contininuing to keep Senator Johnson and his family in my prayers.


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I doubt anyone here disagrees that the MSM has become the most vile of human life on the planet, but in truth, Politics in Washington is as decent as the members of Congress want it to be... The press doesnt set the agenda or the dignity of the Congressional precedings - The members of Congress do... They alone are responsible for their behavior...




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"MSM" + "vile" = http://newsbusters.org/node/9723


NPR reporter question, to an attorney:


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Was that your point?