Duke Accuser changes story, AGAIN!!!

[Seabee]

Duke Lacrosse 'Rape' Accuser Changes Story Again, Says Seligmann Didn't Touch Her


RALEIGH, N.C. — The woman who once claimed three members of the Duke University (javascript:siteSearch('Duke University');) lacrosse team raped her has changed her story once again as to what happened during the alleged sexual assault, according to court papers filed Thursday by the defense.
The accuser told prosecutors in December that Reade Seligmann (javascript:siteSearch('Reade Seligmann');), one of the three players charged did not commit any sex act on her during the alleged attack but that he watched, according to the filing. While he was repeatedly urged to take part in the alleged attack, she recalled, he said he could not participate because he was getting married.
"The accuser's most recent recollection of events demonstrates clearly that she cannot accurately recall and describe her attackers and that any identification made by her is necessarily unreliable," the defense filing said.

For full story: http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,243063,00.html

It never ends.

[CountryGent]

This entire case has been nothing but a farce from day 1. I saw it as a cheap hooker trying to get an out of court $$$$ settlement from a few rich kids.....and it back-fired big time on both she and that idiot Nifong.

[DesertFox]

:yeahthat:

[Lubbock]

What Fox said.

[S-T]

For the record, the false accuser's name is Crystal Gail Mangum.

and it back-fired big time on both she and that idiot Nifong.

Mike Nifong (http://www.conservatibbs.com/2006/12/mike-nifong-is-rapist.html) is not an idiot. He knows exactly what he is doing. Mike Nifong (http://www.conservatibbs.com/2007/01/mike-nifong-is-rapist-part-ii.html) is a rapist.

[Seabee]

"NC Bar Files Ethics Complaint Against Durham DA Mike Nifong"


Full Story:http://www.wfmynews2.com/news/breaking/article.aspx?storyid=77296

Looks like somebody is smarter than Nifong.

[DesertFox]

From what we've seen in this case, just about anybody is smart than Nifong.

[Longhorn_Platinum]

:unsmile: Crystal Gail Mangum is smarter than Mike Knifethong.

[Seabee]

The cactus getting urintated on in Fox's avatar is smarter that Mike Nifong. Probably smells better too.

[S-T]

Mike Nifong has done far more damage to the Constitution than Osama bin Laden could have hoped to do on September 11. Nifong needs to take a long vacation in Club Gitmo with the rest of America's enemies.

People like Mike Nifong are far more dangerous to the future of America than any Muslim terrorist, because people like that are the ones actually subverting the Constitution and violating the freedoms that we all hold dear. When one person's rights are violated, all of our rights are violated. If he is allowed to set a precedent here, the terrorists win.

[Longhorn_Platinum]

:rolleyes: S-T, I can't stand Knifethong, but that post was over the edge. This isn't about terrorism. I wouldn't blame the FiSTed iDioTs if they quoted you on that.

[S-T]

S-T, I can't stand Knifethong, but that post was over the edge. This isn't about terrorism.

I respectfully disagree. This War on Terror is about one thing and one thing only: freedom.

We are now engaged in a global War on Terror to fight the enemy that hates our freedom and wants to take it away. They are on a jihad to establish Islamic law. This war makes it ever more important to guard freedom and liberty here at home. Every single time any unit of government takes away the freedoms granted by God and protected by the Constitution, the terrorists win. There is no more effective way to provide aid and comfort to Islamic terrorists than to take away the freedom of the American people.

Simply put: attacks on freedom are treasonous (http://www.conservatibbs.com/2006/06/attacks-on-freedom-are-treasonous.html). And Mike Nifong is not only a rapist, he is a traitor and he needs to be in Club Gitmo with the other enemies of freedom.

[S-T]

I wouldn't blame the FiSTed iDioTs if they quoted you on that.

I hope they do. I'm starting to get a complex, since they haven't noticed me yet.

http://www.freeconservatives.com/vb/images/icons/wink0000.gif :D http://www.freeconservatives.com/vb/images/icons/icon10.gif

[Longhorn_Platinum]

:unsmile: What you seem to have overlooked is that this case isn't prompting a constitutional crisis. It's just one asshole who can't get it through his head that Crystal Gail Mangum is a bold-faced liar.

[S-T]

What you seem to have overlooked is that this case isn't prompting a constitutional crisis.

I would say that it most certainly is a crisis for the men who have been falsely accused, and their families. Mike "The Rapist" Nifong has used the power of the state to make these men's lives Hell on earth for the better part of a year, all because of his selfish political ambitions.

Is it a Constitutional crisis? Not yet, no. But it could be the start of one, where political games and racial politics play havok with the rights of people all over the country. That is why Nifong cannot be allowed to set a precedent here. That is why Nifong must not be allowed to get away with this.

We cannot let al Qaeda win this battle. If Nifong wins, so does Osama bin Laden.

[bannerman]

nifongs just recused himself according to abc radio news

ABOUT TIME!

[Lubbock]

This hacks me off.

Brilliant move on Nifong's part. He's too cute by half.

He recuses, another prosecutor takes over, promptly drops the charges, and Nifong gets to bleat for the rest of his life about how he was to only one with the courage to take on the Rich White Boys. That will stand him in good stead for the rest of his political life with the black community who will keep him in office until he's old and gray.

Plus this may relieve him from any charges that could be brought by the State Bar or the Attorney General of North Carolina.

[Rhino]

Recusal doesn't necessarily stop the case from going forward.

[Lubbock]

No, Nifong's recusal won't stop the case from going forward. A new prosecutor will stop the case from going forward.

Between the total lack of evidence, the ever-changing lies of the accuser, and the DNA coverup, a new prosecutor is going to drop this case like a hot potato.

It won't happen tomorrow. I suspect it will be at lease a month before a new prosecutor drops the charges, but it will happen.

A new prosecutor probably will first try to squeeze the defendants into a plea bargain. He'll offer them no jail time for a plea to a lesser charge than what they're facing now [pray God their attorneys don't fall for it], and when it doesn't work, he'll drop the case.

No prosecutor in his right mind would take this case to trial.

By the way, I understand that Nifong has only plead to be relieved. A Judge has to rule on the pleading.

If the Judge has any backbone, he'll tell Nifong, "It's your canoe, you paddle it," and deny Nifong being relieved.

[Seabee]

Lubbock ,

I dont think his removal from the case will relieve him of the ehtics investigation. The accusation and investigation both took place before any of this. Now they might strike a deal or something with him, but if the N.C. Bar Association has one ounce of backbone they will pursue this till they lynch him.

[Lubbock]

Seabee, I think "the fix" is in. I would venture to say that the North Carolina State Bar has already made a deal with Nifong that pends on his recusal.

The State Attorney General is another matter, and to my knowledge, the AG has not even begun an investigation into malfeasance.

The State Bar can do anything from slap Nifong's wrist [which is my bet] to disbar him [no way in hell will they].

The AG is the one with the teeth to do something about Nifong, and so far they aren't showing any backbone.

The very fact that a prosecutor would hide the exculpatory DNA evidence is enough to get Nifong disbarred in most states. Not in North Carolina. They have a very strange system. I lived in Virginia for thirty years. I'm a semi-retired legal secretary, so I have had some experience with the law and North Carolia over they years.

[Seabee]

I would think that would be considered, to some degree, evidence tampering. Last time I checked that was a felony charge. But I doubt we will be hearing anything about jail time for Nifong.

[DesertFox]

Nifong's gonna go to jail eventually. And he should.

[Seabee]

If there is any justice, those kids will get their lives back with a nice lump sum of money, Nifong will get sold for some cigarettes while working out in the prison gym, and Mangum, appropriate last name, will continue down her downward spiral and realize her long life ambition of becoming a reverse-prostitute and have to pay her customers.

[DeclinetoState]

Can the accused sue Nifong for malicious prosecution or the like? Can they sue the accuser (Crystal Gail Magnum, or whatever her name is) for false arrest (though she probably wouldn't even have enough money to her name to pay their lawyers)?

[Seabee]

Declino,

I do not know personally but I am willing to bet that like some states have laws protecting themselves against suits for false imprisonment, I am sure there is some state statute protecting Nifong from a liability suit for false prosecution. Now the State may be another story. I dont know, Lubbock stated N.C. has some strange laws and regulations.

[Lubbock]

Yeah, but I don't know a thing about the law that governs what DtS is asking.

Supposedly, a Prosecutor can't be held liable for a case he prosecutes that ends in a wrong conviction. Blanket immunity, and I think that's pretty much nationwide.

As to this particular case, I think the only way Nifong could be held liable in a civil suit is if a criminal charge and conviction preceeded it. Without a criminal conviction, a Judge is very apt to throw the civil suit out if brought.

I would be willing to bet that the State of North Carolina will never bring criminal charges against Nifong.

My personal belief is that if Nifong ever gets what he truly deserves, it will be at the end of a Louisville Slugger when a car load of Carolina Red Necks catch him out some dark night and gives him what for.

I do hope that the parents of these boy have top-flight lawyers who know what they're doing, and are exploring every possibility for getting retribution and monetary restitution for their clients. This has probably about broken the parents financially.

As to the Whore who caused all of this, she will never get what she deserves.

There isn't that much justice in the world.

[Longhorn_Platinum]

:unsmile: I just hope that the Whore's name is made public, & becomes as much a household word as "Monica Lewinsky".

[S-T]

Can the accused sue Nifong for malicious prosecution or the like? Can they sue the accuser (Crystal Gail Magnum, or whatever her name is) for false arrest (though she probably wouldn't even have enough money to her name to pay their lawyers)?

Dunno, but I can provide a comparison to something that happened in Indiana. A former County Council member is suing two state troopers for his "brutally violent false arrest" on charges related to drunk driving. He's also suing the guy who called the police to report him in the first place. He's a Democrat, 'natch.

And he was convicted.