Staff sgt. in trouble for Playboy pics

[DeclinetoState]

Source (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070112/ap_on_re_us/playboy_military)

http://d.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20070111/capt.sa10201112333.playboy_military_sa102.jpg?x=18 0&y=119&sig=8AkNUCMCanx9fyu1tJS3DA-- (http://news.yahoo.com/photo/070111/480/sa10201112333&g=events/us/011207sgtplayboy)

AP Photo (http://news.yahoo.com/photo/070111/480/sa10201112333&g=events/us/011207sgtplayboy): U.S. Air Force Staff Sgt.
Michelle Manhart poses with the
February issue of Playboy magazine...

1 hour, 19 minutes ago

SAN ANTONIO - An Air Force staff sergeant who posed nude for Playboy magazine has been relieved of her duties while the military investigates, officials said Thursday.

In February's issue, hitting newsstands this week, Michelle Manhart is photographed in uniform yelling and holding weapons under the headline "Tough Love." The following pages show her partially clothed, wearing her dog tags while working out, as well as completely nude.

[The Barbarian]

Doing the photos in uniform could be her downfall. Posing nude, unless they changed the UCMJ, is not cause for discipline. But there are a lot of limits as to what you can do in uniform, because that reflects on the US armed forces.

[Rhino]

The Air Force has already booted one girl for posing partially in uniform. I believe it was in the 80s. I know I was active duty at the time. And I know she was really hot! :evilgrin: She was a lot prettier than this girl, that's for sure.

[Rhino]

She's also on myspace.

http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=106923393

[Seabee]

All this reflects on is that as usual the Chair Force, call them that because im jealous, is smarter than the rest fo the Armed Forces and gets the hotties.

[Pennville_Bill]

Chair Force??

[Seabee]

Other military branches refer to the Air Force as the Chair Force. It is a reference that they only sit behind desks for their service. Truth of the matter is that the other branches are jealous of the quality of life the Air Force has, but quite simply it is a joke. Not unlike the "GAYVY," Marine=Muscles Are Required Intelligence Not Essential, or Army=Arent Ready to be Marines Yet

[DoctorDoom]

I forgot just how much I loathe MySpace until I went there and sat aghast at that crude, obnoxious, eye-wrenching parody of a web page. I cut the download off halfway through to preserve my sanity.

There should be page content alerts for Myspace similar to what "adult" sites use.

<center>http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v349/DocDoom777/HumorPix/MySpaceWarning.gif</center>

[RED]

I forgot just how much I loathe MySpace until I went there and sat aghast at that crude, obnoxious, eye-wrenching parody of a web page. I cut the download off halfway through to preserve my sanity.

There should be page content alerts for Myspace similar to what "adult" sites use.


<CENTER>>> WARNING! <<

This web page is intended only for people with IQs under 18.
It can cause siezures and other health issues in anyone with
a microclue about proper web page design, and/or with even
a rudimentary sense of aesthetics.

I am an idiot, or am amused by playing with turds.
Let me in.

AAUUGGHH!! NOOOO!!! Save my sanity, I beg of you.
Get me outa here NOW!</CENTER>

Hell, I haven't even gone there to check it out because I figured it was the kiddie playground for morons.

As far as the chick, she should have known better than to wear here uniform in such photos. It's a no brainer. Probably urged to or demanded by libs at Playboy. Their way of disparaging and disgracing the US military.

[Wolfcounsel]

If GAYVY is a reference to the Navy, I never heard it before. I heard Canoe Club. I've always heard of the Air Force as the Nine to Fivers. The Marines were Jarheads, and the Army were the Ground Pounders.

[Seabee]

Most of those are still around, but you know how it goes, each generation of military comes up with its own experlatives for the other branches in the continued interservice rivalry. Its never going to end, lol.

[DesertFox]

Never hearda the Chair Force before. In my generation it was the Air Farce.

[MSGT]

This plan to drum up "controversy" is getting old.

[The Barbarian]

When I was in, they called the AF "Bus Drivers" because the dress uniform looked a little like bus drivers.

The joke: An Airman, and two Marines in dress uniform are at a bus depot:

Marine (to airman) So, driver, when are we leaving?

Airman: "As soon as you bellhops get it loaded."

[EveningStar]

She's also on myspace.

http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=106923393

This happened just now:

Invalid Friend ID.
This user has either cancelled their membership, or their acccount has been deleted.

[EveningStar]

It's back up. I think they're experiencing overload.

[Rhino]

She's not that great looking. She's just got big gazonkas.

[CountryGent]

She's just got big gazonkas.:biglaugh:

[S-T]

As far as the chick, she should have known better than to wear here uniform in such photos. It's a no brainer.

:yeahthat:

[DeclinetoState]

Hell, I haven't even gone there to check it out because I figured it was the kiddie playground for morons.

As far as the chick, she should have known better than to wear here uniform in such photos. It's a no brainer.
Amazing how the phrase "no brainer" brings Paris Hilton and Britney Spears to mind.

[DeclinetoState]

An Air Force staff sergeant who posed nude for Playboy magazine has been relieved of her duties while the military investigates . . .Why do I get the feeling the investigation will involve looking at a certain men's magazine? Let's just hope the investigators remember to look at the right pictures.

[S-T]

Amazing how the phrase "no brainer" brings Paris Hilton and Britney Spears to mind.
Funny, I was thinking of the miserable failure (http://www.michaelmoore.com).

:D

[Jag Wife]

Doing the photos in uniform could be her downfall. Posing nude, unless they changed the UCMJ, is not cause for discipline. But there are a lot of limits as to what you can do in uniform, because that reflects on the US armed forces.

Let me set you straight on that, Barbarian. My husband did a few cases like this in his 24 years.

This is punishable under Article 134, which is a general article. If she had been an officer, then it would probably have been Articles 133 (Conduct Unbecoming) and 134. Most likely, her charge sheet will read "You did bring discredit upon the Armed Forces...."

The truth is, if she had just gone and posed nude and made ABSOLUTELY NO REFERENCE TO HER MILITARY CAREER WHATSOEVER, she would probably have gotten away with it. But I'm told that one of those photos included her dog tags, and that Playboy billed her as an Air Force Staff Sergeant. One thing most people don't realize is that you can participate in protests and civil events all you want, so long as you don't have any references to yourself being a soldier. For example, that scene in Forrest Gump, where Forrest stands in front of the hippie protestors and attempts to talk about the war while in full uniform, would have gotten him court-martialed in real life.

The decision whether to charge her or not was completely up to her commander. Because she was active duty, she was more susceptible to being charged. If she were a reservist, that would have been a more difficult case. Just MHO, they simply kicked her out because of the politics of the matter.

Articles 133 and 134, UCMJ:
933. ART. 133. CONDUCT UNBECOMING AN OFFICER AND A GENTLEMAN

Any commissioned officer, cadet, or midshipman who is convicted of conduct unbecoming an officer and a gentleman shall be punished as a court-martial may direct.

934. ART. 134. GENERAL ARTICLE

Though not specifically mentioned in this chapter, all disorders and neglects to the prejudice of good order and discipline in the armed forces, all conduct of a nature to bring discredit upon the armed forces, and crimes and offenses not capital, of which persons subject to this chapter may be guilty, shall be taken cognizance of by a general, special or summary court-martial, according to the nature and degree of the offense, and shall be punished at the discretion of that court.


http://www.au.af.mil/au/awc/awcgate/ucmj2.htm

NAVY: Never Again Volunteer Yourself

ARMY: Uncle Sam Ain't Released Me Yet

USMC: Uncle Sam's Misguided Children; U Signed Mutherf____ Contract

Air Farce: Speaks for itself

[Jag Wife]

Why do I get the feeling the investigation will involve looking at a certain men's magazine? Let's just hope the investigators remember to look at the right pictures.

Funny story out of that.

Back in 1990, in Ft. Ord, CA, my husband helped prosecute an Army Captain who came to be known as CAPTAIN VIDEO. He and his wife were both Army Captains. She came home early from duty one day, wanted to watch a movie, and popped a tape into the VCR that she noticed had no label on it. Ends up it was HER HUSBAND in THEIR BEDROOM with a Sergeant's wife AND some woman she didn't recognize.

She made copies of the tape and sent it to his commander, and everyone else she could think of, BEFORE she packed up and moved out and started divorce proceedings.

Yes, my husband and the prosecuting attorney had to watch this tape OVER AND OVER, and by doing so they had to catch that he was not only guilty of adultery, but sodomy (I'll let you use your imagination). And yes, these idiots who videotape themselves committing crimes were always the easiest cases he had.

Federal law requires that cases like this have an "expert medical witness" testify, so they brought in an OB/GYN who had also watched the tape and could testify that it was not only adultery, but sodomy as well. Court records show that this OB/GYN's exact words were, "I can't tell you where it is, but I can tell you where it ISN'T!" (Laughter in the background.)

Needless to say, Loverboy wasn't an Army Captain for much longer.

[S-T]

For example, that scene in Forrest Gump, where Forrest stands in front of the hippie protestors and attempts to talk about the war while in full uniform, would have gotten him court-martialed in real life.

Don't forget that, in the context of that scene, the storyline and the character, Forest would have praised our troops and the war effort. The hippies were not portayed well in that movie.

[DeclinetoState]

Funny, I was thinking of the miserable failure (http://www.michaelmoore.com).

:DNow you've got me thinking of him in the nude.

RRRRRRAAAAAALLLLLPPPPPHHHHH!!!

[Jag Wife]

Don't forget that, in the context of that scene, the storyline and the character, Forest would have praised our troops and the war effort. The hippies were not portayed well in that movie.

Correction: MIGHT have gotten him court-martialed in real life. Whether or not he would have spoken well of our troops or not would have had little bearing; it's the politics of the matter. Decision to press charges lies with the soldier's command. If Forrest Gump's commander were a hippie hater (and there were a few), he could kiss that Sergeant's stripe (and a few other things) goodbye.

And that's the part a lot of people don't understand about military law--lots and lots of politics.

Case in point: A few years ago my husband assisted on a sexual harrassment case. The guy had a long history of sexually harrassing subordinate female soldiers and SHOULD have been court-martialed, but the JAG in charge simply opted for a BCD (bad conduct discharge), meaning he would lose a lot of his military benefits. My husband was furious, and a lot of the court appointees couldn't believe it, but that was the senior JAG's decision.

[S-T]

Funny, I was thinking of the miserable failure (http://www.michaelmoore.com).

:D

Now you've got me thinking of him in the nude.

No, dude, you came up with that one all by yourself.

Sicko.

:lol:

[DeclinetoState]

Well, I suppose the miserable failure (http://www.michaelmoore.com) in the nude couldn't be much worse than the pics others have posted here of Ted Kennedy in swimming trunks.