The South Sucks? - by Doug Giles

[HomeschoolrsRUs]

The South Sucks?::By Doug Giles (http://www.townhall.com/Columnists/DougGiles/2007/01/13/the_south_sucks)

“Mississippi gets more than their fair share back in federal money, but who the hell wants to live in Mississippi?” -Charles Rangle, New York Congressman, 2006



If you listen to the Ditsy Chicks, if you like Rosie O’Doggerel and if you think John Kerry (http://www.townhall.com/Columnists/DougGiles/2007/01/13/the_south_sucks#) is cool, then more than likely you assume the South sucks. Yep, our current culture has been brow beaten by the loons on the Left into viewing the South as societal swill.

In Hollywood, the hedonistic thought thugs make certain that Southerners are tarred and feathered as inbred, Ricky Bobby, moonshine slammin’, KKKMart shoppin’, fat back eatin’, cousin humpin’ square dancers with three teeth and an IQ of 50.
The liberal Belief Police want America to hate the South because the South represents the Secular Regressive’s (SR) chief political and cultural (and armed, I might add) high hurdle.

The autoerotic “elite,” which form the intellectually line bred gene pool of the soulless Left, are hell bent to bar from our borders all praises and practices of the principles which have made the South substantial. What are the things that make Dixie so darn good?
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[DesertFox]

Good article.

The Left imagines the South as it would be if the Left ran the South. Weird thing is, the Left has neither the brains nor the imagination to see this.

[Eagle1]

it is very strange that the left has been so effective at getting their lies believed by many, then again, that is the only thing they are good at

i have met many people from every state, and i have found no difference in intelligence (except that people from southern california are generally arrogant liberals)

but nothing that would indicate that southerners are backwards, in fact it would seem to me that new england leads the way in holding onto a failed system of thought

[Lubbock]

" . . . Real women. Unlike the female chauvinist pigs on the Left, Southern women are charming and ladylike and like their menfolk, they have backbones of steel. Also, note to single guys: from Georgia peaches to Mississippi belles, there’s no doubt about it: southern women are prettier. . . . "

Never forget that Condi is a Southern Belle.

Birmingham, if I remember correctly.

Think about her grace and dignity in the face of the onslaugh from that California Harpy.

I like Giles. He's the closest thing we have to a male counter-part to Ann Coulter.

I especiall liked this: the liberal, tassel-shoed Nancy’s have a hissy; and liberal Belief Police; and the intellectually line bred gene pool of the soulless Left.

[Seabee]

There was an interesting study done on predictions for the future of the South done recently. I cannot remember the group who did it. The future over the next 20 or so years was very optimistic, both economically and socially. If anyone has read it and knows where to find it I would appreciate the link.

[d'urville]

Well, the South's been growing by leaps and bounds, what's been stagnating is the Upper Midwest, the entire Left Coast (except for illegal immigration, of course), as well as New England.


• Southerners wrote the Declaration of Independence, the Constitution, and Bill of Rights
• The civil war was not a true civil war, nor was it driven by slavery
• Southern women had independence, equality, and freedom decades before suffrage
• The South, not the West, started the Hollywood movie scene, blues, jazz, and rock and roll.


Facts can be problematic for condesecending liberals. Eagle1, you need to take a trip up to Northern California, my oldest son who's attending "one of the most prestigious colleges" on the Left Coast had to abruptly move this weekend because he caught his roommate in a sexual act with a dog.

The South, the Lower MidWest, the central West, and maybe Alaska define "American culture" to me, all other parts of the US are embodiments of European culture as far as I'm concerned.

The only two things wrong with the South, which has "risen again" are the two products of Jimmy Carter and Bill Clinton, but they are faux Southerners IMO.

[Jag Wife]

Can I get a big HELL YEAH!!

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[Pennville_Bill]

Can I get a big HELL YEAH!!

:confedflag:

Hell Yeah!!

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[PrezLeefun]

Well As a PROUD YANKEE I still like this thread. I have always maintianed that in the last 50 years the South has maintained a bad reputation that for the most part no longer exsist. Anything in the South that could be considered bad is the same all over because of the decline in morality accross the USA.

IMO there is no problem in the South that is unique only to it, and no solution the North or West can provide since we all suffer from the same problems.

[DoctorDoom]

If the South could get rid of all those damned nasty critters (fire ants, killer bees, scorpions, et al), it would be paradise.

But then, Eden had a snake ... oh, well.

[Charity]

There is a certain charm in the south like no other place in the world. Besides, you ain't lived until you have had fried green maters. :-)

[Oldeshooter]

If the South could get rid of all those damned nasty critters (fire ants, killer bees, scorpions, et al), it would be paradise.

But then, Eden had a snake ... oh, well.
In the occupied State of Massachusetts we have their human counterparts: John Kerry, Billy Bulger, the Kennedy family

[Lubbock]

Is anyone familiar with the writings of Michael Grissom? Southern By The Grace of God and The Last Rebel Yell are two that come to mind right off the top of my head.

He's a terrific Southern Historian. I had the priviledge of meeting him and spending time with him at a United Daughters of the Confederacy [of which I am a card-carrying member] convention several years ago.

[DeclinetoState]

i have met many people from every state, and i have found no difference in intelligence (except that people from southern california are generally arrogant liberals)Actually, I believe Riverside County (which is a significant--though largely sparsely populated) part of southern California is fairly conservative. The arrogant liberals are mainly confined to the Hollywood crowd and its groupies.

[cerberus]

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What a bunch of garbage. The South (especially the deep South) is a sucking sewer and I was grateful when I was able to move out of it for places where trailer-living didn't apparently house half the population. My time in LA (that's Lower Alabama) showed me all I needed to know about the South and many, but not all, of the stereotypes are correct.

...as the South makes up the overwhelming majority of the armed forces who protect our country and are willing to take a bullet for these ungrateful and derisive jackasses. The South accounts for 35% of the population, but 41% of the military recruits. ...emphasis mine. Now boys and girls, can anybody tell me what's wrong with this statement? At this point Giles credibility (supposing he had some) melts. Bonus question...who can tell me the two states with the highest number of casualties in the Iraq war? Anyone? I'll give you a hint...they ain't in the South.

A sense of morals and religion?! Puh-leeze! How about a sense of intolerance and ignorance? And i'm not just talking generic Muslim-hating here. I watched as those Southern "gentlemen" Giles effuses about insult Catholics, Buddhists and a friend of mine because he's of Indian ancestry, with Hindu parents but looked like what they think a Muslim looks like. Oh, and the race bit? Yeah, I still heard a great many of these same "gentlemen" and at least two "ladies" use the "n-word" in casual conversation like it was no big deal. Fantastic...
Gentlemen? Ha! If you've ever seen an episode 'Cops' in Houston, Atlanta etc you'll be dissolved of that notion...its disturbingly accurate...
And the rest of it is just living off the past and supposed Southern "accomplishments". Give me a break. Don't even get me started about the Civil War either. You lost. Get over it. I find it double ironic that the same people who fly the traitorous flag of the Confederacy also claim to be the most patriotic and "love America.
The really good thing about the South is that thanks to modern media and connectivity as well as a flow of Northerners retiring it's becoming less like the Old South. Virginia is pretty decent now, as are the eastern halves of the Carolinas to varying degrees.
...of course i too am stereo-typing here, but Giles? noooooo...he would never do that...:rolleyes:

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[d'urville]

Doug Giles: http://clashradio.com/

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What a bunch of garbage. The South (especially the deep South) is a sucking sewer and I was grateful when I was able to move out of it for places where trailer-living didn't apparently house half the population.

Get back to where you once belonged. You're too special to be around that many house trailors.


My time in LA (that's Lower Alabama) showed me all I needed to know about the South and many, but not all, of the stereotypes are correct.

So stereotypes are fine in liberalland if some (if not all) are shown to be "correct"? Well, yeah, there's truth in every stereotype, that's why they're "stereotypes".


...emphasis mine. Now boys and girls, can anybody tell me what's wrong with this statement?

...as the South makes up the overwhelming majority of the armed forces who protect our country and are willing to take a bullet for these ungrateful and derisive jackasses. The South accounts for 35% of the population, but 41% of the military recruits.

Bolded emphasis yours, of course. What's wrong with it is that Giles used definition #3 of the word "majority":

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n., pl. -ties.

The greater number or part; a number more than half of the total.
The amount by which the greater number of votes cast, as in an election, exceeds the total number of remaining votes.
The political party, group, or faction having the most power by virtue of its larger representation or electoral strength.
Law. The status of having reached full legal age, with attendant rights and responsibilities.
The military rank, commission, or office of a major.
Obsolete. The fact or state of being greater; superiorityProbably because he's a backwards fundie!


At this point Giles credibility (supposing he had some) melts.

Probably because he's a backwards fundie! Watch out for the melting credibility!


Bonus question...who can tell me the two states with the highest number of casualties in the Iraq war? Anyone? I'll give you a hint...they ain't in the South.

Giles did say "willing to take a bullet" not "took a bullet", wouldn't want to twist the words, now would you?

Who knows? Who cares? I'd guess CA and NY, two big population states. But NOT proportionately, there's a difference. The data:

http://www.heritage.org/Research/NationalSecurity/images/table8_large.gif


A sense of morals and religion?! Puh-leeze! How about a sense of intolerance and ignorance?

And i'm not just talking generic Muslim-hating here. I watched as those Southern "gentlemen" Giles effuses about insult Catholics, Buddhists and a friend of mine because he's of Indian ancestry, with Hindu parents but looked like what they think a Muslim looks like. Oh, and the race bit? Yeah, I still heard a great many of these same "gentlemen" and at least two "ladies" use the "n-word" in casual conversation like it was no big deal. Fantastic...

Southerners (a few) made you think they're all "intolerant and ignorant", that is an elitist hypocritical attitude. You are officially a steroeotype now. Fantastic...


Gentlemen? Ha! If you've ever seen an episode 'Cops' in Houston, Atlanta etc you'll be dissolved of that notion...its disturbingly accurate...

Cops doesn't reflect ANY notion, except the obvious one that most suspected criminals don't generally behave as "gentlemen" anywhere.


And the rest of it is just living off the past and supposed Southern "accomplishments". Give me a break.

Quick, name something uniquely "Northern". And if writing the Declaration of Independence, the Constitution, and Bill of Rights is considered merely "living off the past", I'm down with that!


Don't even get me started about the Civil War either. You lost. Get over it.

You mean the North won?

But I'd disagree that anyone should "get over it", history should never be ignored, even if it's unpleasant.


I find it double ironic that the same people who fly the traitorous flag of the Confederacy also claim to be the most patriotic and "love America.

No more "double ironic" than a Northerner bashing the GOP as the party of racist, ignorant, Bible-thumpers.


The really good thing about the South is that thanks to modern media and connectivity as well as a flow of Northerners retiring it's becoming less like the Old South. Virginia is pretty decent now, as are the eastern halves of the Carolinas to varying degrees.

Virginia is "decent" except for its DC suburbs. They'll regret voting in the porno hack.

The Carolinas are still fine, they wouldn't re-elect the Breck Girl AND they're even getting rid of Nifong. The migration from North to South is because....?

The trailors again?

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...of course i too am stereo-typing here, but Giles? noooooo...he would never do that...:rolleyes:

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Giles wouldn't buy this moral relativistic argument: I can stereotype because he did it, too! Now go roll your eyes again.

[DoctorDoom]

In the occupied State of Massachusetts we have their human counterparts: John Kerry, Billy Bulger, the Kennedy family/True, but there's only one of each (thank God for small favors).

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Begin rant.... (liberal troll bullshit excised) ....end Rant.Dogbreath, I'm dead certain that the south was almost infinitely more grateful to see you drag your pathetic yankee liberal ass out of there than you were to leave. It's the same great sense of relief that we will feel when you haul your snotty, arrogant, narcissistic self out of here. :rolleyes:

[Lubbock]

Message to cerberus from Lubbock:

We're glad you're gone.

[Joe Btsflk]

Why do you continue to use the word "liberal" when they are really "socialists."

[Seabee]

friend of mine because he's of Indian ancestry, with Hindu parents but looked like what they think a Muslim looks like. Oh, and the race bit?

Funny, you should mention supposed Southerner racism towards persons of Indian/Hindu decent. Why dont you look up a guy named Bobby Jindal, he is a State Represntative in LA. First District. Most of the District is filled with those pesky white Southern "racists." Interesting how they love the guy. They must have thought he was a white guy who just tans to much eh? Probably he will become the next Governor of the state.

General consensus in Louisiana was that if he was Governonr at the time of Katrina none of the stupid B.S. would have happened. Oh wait! A Indian smarter than a Kathleen "Blundering Boob" Blanco? Those silly racists in the Deep South what were they thinking, an Indian smarter than a white woman, nah they must have been mistaken.

So much for stereotypes, kind of like the one you are making about the South.


Here is his webiste: http://www.bobbyjindal.com/

[Pennville_Bill]

Begin rant.... (liberal troll bullshit excised) ....end Rant.

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[Lubbock]

I have no clue as to what set of circumstances brought the Liberal Troll to the South, but I have every idea that he is what my ancestors would have called a "Carpetbagger."

Here's your hat, what's you hurry?

[DoctorDoom]

Why do you continue to use the word "lieral" when they are really "socialists.""Socialist" has a specific meaning. "Liberal" is an all-encompassing term that includes "socialist", but embraces all of the evil influences that are destroying America and the western world.

[Lazarus]

If the South could get rid of all those damned nasty critters (fire ants, killer bees, scorpions, et al), it would be paradise.

But then, Eden had a snake ... oh, well.Ya just gotta know when and where to NOT walk in bare feet, Bro... Last summer about 9 pm, We were takin our new puppy outside for a nature break before we put him to bed for the night... We opened the front soor and as he started to step out on the porch he jumped back (smart doggie), and right beside the front door was a copperhead... And Im really bad about walking out on that porch in my bare feet... He would have tagged me for sure...

Life in the South... ;)

The Deep South is the best kept secret in this country - and I hope it stays that way... Low property taxes, low cost of living, good manners, good food, and conservative politics...

And the best part is that liberal jackasses dont last here long, as evidenced by a certain previous post... I find it ironic that someone can post such viscious venom about the South, accusing us of prejudice and bigotry, when his whole post is nothing but bitter bigotry... But his kind are so self-absorbed that they never see their own sins...

The South is a happier, sunnier place without the three-headed troll...

[Seabee]

Here is a thought. South got a bum rap with "Deliverance." As usual people watching the talking heads on the tele or the movies think of it as the Gospel as told by Hollywood, so it must be true.

In my travels it would be more succinct to take any reference of the South out of Deliverance and replace it with the backwoods of Vermont, Connecticut, New York (the state), Washington St., etc. and you would have a more realistic view of what I have seen.

Besides I dont play the banjo out on my porch with my inbred kids, we have moved up in the world. Now we are listening to Ipods in the back of our SUV.

[Lubbock]

If the South is so dadgummed awful, why does so much of the rest of the nation adopt so many of our traditions --from the way we decorate our homes to our Southern food?

I can't think of a single thing [outside of clam chowder] from the north that holds my interest.

Lest anyone forget, NASCAR, the biggest spectator sport known to man, and is a Southern gift to the rest of the nation. NASCAR's roots are Squarely Southern.

[Trevelyan]

Lest anyone forget, NASCAR, the biggest spectator sport known to man, and is a Southern gift to the rest of the nation. NASCAR's roots are Squarely Southern.

Car racing bores me to tears. Baseball is where it's at! :)

Anyway, I keep seeing references to "Southern food." What types of food falls under the "Southern" category?

[HomeschoolrsRUs]

Car racing bores me to tears. Baseball is where it's at! :)

Baseball, yuck! NASCAR and College Football, the two staples of the south, :thumb:

Anyway, I keep seeing references to "Southern food." What types of food falls under the "Southern" category?

FreeConservatives - View Single Post - The War Room Jan 14 -20 (http://www.freeconservatives.com/vb/showpost.php?p=509939&postcount=5)

"Pork chops and milk gravy, mashed taters and fired okra, barbeque, cole slaw, watermelon preserves, sweet potato pie, hot yeast rolls, iced tea, fried chicken, spoon bread, chicken fired steak and milk gravy, red-eye gravy and eggs over easy, cat head biscuits and sausage gravy, pecan pie, chocolate layer cake and a glass of ice cold milk, country style steak, beans, cornbread and fried taters . . . "

[Lubbock]

And grits . . . always the grits.

With anything . . . and everything.

EDIT: And while I'm on the subject, let me strike that Clam Chowder comment. Come to think of it, the very best Clam Chowder I ever had was from some little hole-in-the-wall takeout place on a fishing pier on Jekyll Island, Georgia.

[Lazarus]

...Anyway, I keep seeing references to "Southern food." What types of food falls under the "Southern" category?Poor Trev... So deprived...

Fried Chicken/Steak/Pork Chops
Gumbo
Crab Bisque Soup
Fried Okra
Jambalya
Bar B Q
Chili
Possum fritters... :whistle: :biggrin:

All originated in the South... Some have filtered up North and West over time but all have their beginnings in Dixie... And some you cant even get north of the Mason Dixon line...

Have you ever had Gumbo, Trev? Maybe you need to take a road trip down here...

[Naturalized-Texan]

I've lived in the South for more than half my life (44 years in the South, 30 years in the North) and the fact that we decided to spend the rest of our lives here in Texas speaks volumes about our opinion of the South. I think that, all things considered, the people in the South are much more civil than the people in the Northeast and are certainly more patriotic. (EDIT: From my experience, I think that the people in the Northeast are more racist than people in the South.)

My wife and I were both born in Pennsylvania, but we now consider ourselves to be Texans. Our eldest son (who posts here as conservatour) was born in Pennsylvania, but he considers himself to be a Texan and he married a Texan. Despite the fact that our youngest son was born in New York State, he considers himself to be a Texan and he also married a Texan (and our grandkids are Texans). Granted, we don't like the bugs, snakes, destructive critters like Raccoons and Armadillos, or the heat, but we are willing to put up with all that because of the rest the advantages.

Add to all that the fact that Texas has no income tax and under Texas Homestead laws, since we reached age 65 we are exempt from county property taxes and our school taxes are frozen at the level they were at age 65. And I love Chicken Fried Steak. :biggrin:

Don't get me wrong, in the part of Pennsylvania where I was born (Punxsutawney) people are as civil and as patriotic as people in the South (and they vote heavily Republican). However, I can't say the same about most of the rest of the Northeast.

[Charity]

I hope anti-southerners will remember....a southern man don't need him around anyhow.

turn it up
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=huLklsj_5HI

[Lubbock]

Pennsylvania has Shoo Fly Pie going for it.

I love Pennsylvania.

One of my dear friends from Sunbury lost her mother last month at age 95. Mom Stoddard woke up that morning and said she wasn't hungry --which was unusual, and went back to sleep. About 10:00 a.m. she woke up and said she believed she could eat a bowl of chocolate ice cream. She ate the ice cream and went back to sleep. Never woke up. Just died peacefully. The dear old soul had never had a Medicare claim. Never been sick. Never seen a doctor for any reason.

Which has nothing to do with being Southern, but when I saw that NT is originally from Pennsylvania, it made me think of Mom Stoddard. She was a dear old soul, and made the best Shoo Fly Pie in the universe.

Beans and Rivels is another Pennsylvania Food that I could never get enough of.

[Naturalized-Texan]

Pennsylvania has Shoo Fly Pie going for it.

Beans and Rivels is another Pennsylvania Food that I could never get enough of.
Beans and Rivels? What is that? Beans I know, but Rivels?

[DoctorDoom]

What about Moon Pies???? Ain't they the very essence of suth'n dining? ;)

[Charity]

What about Moon Pies???? Ain't they the very essence of suth'n dining? ;)
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LOL only if'n it's eaten with a grep (grape) soda to wash it down.

[Lubbock]

You make rivels with the same dough that you use for making egg noodles, but instead of rolling it out and cutting strips for noodles, you "pill it," by working it in your fingers until it's crumbled. When your Navy Beans or White Beans are cooked, you drop the dough into the beans at a full, rolling boil [just like you would drop egg noodles into soup].

Beans and Rivels. It's just basically White Beans/Navy Beans with egg noodles [only smaller].

Yum.

[Trevelyan]

Have you ever had Gumbo, Trev? Maybe you need to take a road trip down here...

Nope.

Between the two lists of Southern foods, I believe pork chops and fried chicken were the only two items I like. The rest is either food I have never tried, or I just do not enjoy. I am an extremely fastidious and boring eater though.

Pennsylvania has Shoo Fly Pie going for it.


I have lived here all my life and I have never heard of that.

All I can think of that seems like it is somewhat of a "Pennsylvanian food" is pierogies.

[The Barbarian]

I've lived in most every region of the country, and I've yet to find one where most people aren't decent and good to know.

And that includes the Deep South. There are always the assholes who hate people from other regions. But they are always losers, who aren't all that welcome where they live, either.

Many states in the South have made great strides in improviing education and standards of living. Racism is dying rapidly almost everywhere.

The jokes are about 30 years out of date. And guys, the Civil War ended over a hundred and thirty years ago. It's time to set the resentment aside.

[Charity]

what the rest of the world that is not southern is missing.....

SWEET TEA--nuff said.

[Trevelyan]

I never cared for tea.

[Naturalized-Texan]

I have lived here all my life and I have never heard of that.
Shoo Fly Pie is a Pennsylvania Dutch pie made from brown sugar, molasses, and spices.

All I can think of that seems like it is somewhat of a "Pennsylvanian food" is pierogies.
I love pierogies, halupke, and potica.

[The Barbarian]

Texas? Hey, real chili (no beans), jalapenos, tamalis, and the world's best barbeque. Breakfast burritos with scrambled eggs, potatoes, chorizo, and a red sauce with respectable heat. What else do you want?

[DesertFox]

What Charity said.

Also, Lub, lemme know next time you havin' them beans and rivels.

[Bluemoon_Rising]

The South is paradise, and Texas is the greatest state in the Union.

[Jag Wife]

One thing I haven't seen mentioned here is that a lot of that Southern "prejudice" was government sanctioned by state and local government officials, which I might add were controlled by democrats, thank you.

My uncle lived in Greensboro, NC and knew some people who worked at the Woolworth (the "lunch counter sit-in"). Most folks at Woolworth would have been just fine to serve up anybody of any color who had the money, but might I remind you that there were local government officials (democrats, thank you) who would have either vandalized their storefront, suddenly found a "health code violation" or something. Most of the average people didn't care whether you were black or white, so long as your money was green, but they lived in fear of the local powers that be, most of whom were Klan members.

Seems like any corruption I see going on in North Carolina involves the Democrat party. In 9 years of living here, I have yet to hear otherwise. Our local fishwrap tries to show the elites in the Northeast and Hollywood just how "with it" they are by being a leftist rag, and then they were shocked when subscriptions and advertising sales took a nosedive.

And the democrats in the House and Senate today would prefer you didn't know that.

[Lubbock]

Jag Wife gets a STANDING OVATION!!!

[Phil Osophical]

It's no mystery why the rest of America thinks the South sucks. All Hollywood movies and televison programs slam the South.

In any film it's easy to spot who the villain is going to be. It's always the baldheaded frowning guy with the southern accent. Hollywood loves to portray southerners as racists and bigots. A fancy yankee hero is always rescuing minorities from evil rebs. Yee haw y'all!

[d'urville]

If the South sucked so much, the rest of America would stop moving down there. Hollywood and the MSM have always dismissed the area as "fly-over" country.

So-called "hate crimes" are far more prevalent in the North:

http://www.fbi.gov/ucr/hc2005/table13index.htm

Top four 2004 for "race-based" hate crimes: New Jersey, Michigan, Montana, Minnesota. Bottom four: Louisiana, Alabama, Mississippi, Georgia.

At least all those snowbirds are assimilating.

[Naturalized-Texan]

One thing I haven't seen mentioned here is that a lot of that Southern "prejudice" was government sanctioned by state and local government officials, which I might add were controlled by democrats, thank you.

My uncle lived in Greensboro, NC and knew some people who worked at the Woolworth (the "lunch counter sit-in"). Most folks at Woolworth would have been just fine to serve up anybody of any color who had the money, but might I remind you that there were local government officials (democrats, thank you) who would have either vandalized their storefront, suddenly found a "health code violation" or something. Most of the average people didn't care whether you were black or white, so long as your money was green, but they lived in fear of the local powers that be, most of whom were Klan members.
Today, as in the past, the Democrat Party is the party of racism.

Here is an excerpt from my essay on Leftism:

I have never understood why blacks retain their allegiance to the Democrat Party. Liberal Democrats have relegated millions of blacks to living on welfare, to living in sub-standard housing, and to sending their children to sub-standard schools. Liberal Democrats have forced millions of blacks to be slaves totally dependent on the government for handouts. In contrast, for nearly 100 years in the South, the Republican Party was the only party that allowed blacks to vote in primary elections and become party members, and proportionally more Republicans than Democrats voted for the 1964 Civil Rights Law. Without Republican support, the 1964 Civil Rights Act would never have been enacted into law.

[Eagle1]

what the rest of the world that is not southern is missing.....

SWEET TEA--nuff said.


i just love the look on a southerners face when they come up north and ask for sweet tea at a restaurant. the waitress gives them tea and some sugar to put in themselves. boy, i have never seen somebody get so angry over a drink!!

cracks me up every time. dont care for the stuff personally, but i can appreciate the difference between sweet tea and some tea with sugar

[The Barbarian]

I like my tea unsweetened, but my wife gets riled about having to put her own sugar in it.

[Jag Wife]

Jag Wife gets a STANDING OVATION!!!

Aw, thanks Lubbock (Blush!)

I might add that for some reason, Senators Chris Dodd and Joe Biden (who are NOT senators in South Carolina, btw) saw fit to show their faces and spew their anti-war pap at an MLK march in Columbia, SC. Something to do with the fact that the Confederate flag is still on the grounds. Might I add it was placed on the top of the Capitol building in 1963 by Fritz Hollings, a democrat governor.

Somebody want to tell me why these imbeciles had to show up in states that weren't their districts, and why can't we just honor MLK today? :flame:

Leave it to a liberal democrat to ruin things for people. FoxNews was quick to show that their little "rally" was VERY sparsely attended. :finger:

[Jag Wife]

I like my tea unsweetened, but my wife gets riled about having to put her own sugar in it.

I actually married a native Southerner who hates sweet tea. He says it tastes like Koolaid. (Too much sugar).

I'm an ice water and diet soda lady myself. :biggrin:

[Naturalized-Texan]

When I lived in the North, I always drank sweetened tea. When I moved to the South, I stopped drinking sweetened tea. I did so to reduce calories. I had no idea that sweetened tea was a southern tradition until I read it in this thread.

[Lubbock]

" . . . Somebody want to tell me why these imbeciles had to show up in states that weren't their districts, and why can't we just honor MLK today? . . . "

That's an easy one.

They're running for President. Dodd has announced; I'm not sure whether Biden has announced, but he's made it known that he's running.

Want to guess which voting bloc they were courting with their anti-Battle Flag rant? [That's an easy one, too.]

They are running.

As to the sweet/unsweet tea question, NT. Do you mean to tell me that you've lived here all these years and you've never heard Sweet Tea referred to as Texas Table Wine?

[Charity]

Sugar does not dissolve in cold iced tea. Here in the south the eateries have to good graces to make it sweet in advance. The only question left is, "do you want lemon with that". It is just a concept lost on the north :-)

[The Barbarian]

Here in Texas, most places bring the tea with a wedge of lemon in it. I have only the vaguest idea of what hot tea is like; I've never tried it.

[DesertFox]

Sweet tea is one of the crowning achievements of the South (along with sour dough biscuits and butter). You put the sugar in while the tea is still hot, so that it blends in evenly. Then you cool it or serve over ice. Delicious!

[Lubbock]

Sweet Tea is something the North has never caught onto to making right.

I just thought of another Southern Dish that's under-served: Corn Pudding.

If you've never had it, you should try it.

[HomeschoolrsRUs]

Sweet-tea is my Bubba's life's blood. Personally I can't stand the dirty water myself, but I have come to have an appreciation for it (because ALL of my family members HAVE to have it, :smirky: ).

I thought of another one, Lubbock -- corn nuggets. My husband adores them almost as much as his hush-puppies, grits, and stumpknockers. Oh yeah, and did anyone mention fried okra? And EVERYBODY knows that the proper beverage to serve when enjoying moon-pies, is an R-ah Cee Cola belly-washer! :smirky:

http://users.multipro.com/corley/rclogo1.jpg and a http://www.lolliesgalore.com/images/moonpie.jpg

[Lubbock]

Oh, yeah. Corn Fritters [Mama called them "fritters."]

And fried pies. Any fruit will do, but I like cherry best.

You're right about the RC Cola. Someone said grape, but RC Cola is what goes best with a Moonpie.

And Dr Pepper is so Southern . I can remember when you couldn't get Dr Peper anywhere but Texas and Oklahoma. At the original bottling plant here in Texas you can get it that is still made with [I]real sugar.

I can also remember when you couldn't get Coors Beer east of the Mississippi.

[HomeschoolrsRUs]

I can also remember when you couldn't get Coors Beer east of the Mississippi.

Me too! Some of the boys on our football team made a "trip out west" to get some Coors for a party (supposedly, :smirky: ). Don't know how they got it, but they had it there at the party (I didn't drink beer, so it didn't matter to me, but it was the topic of discussion for the night that night).

[Lubbock]

Oh, yeah. You're probably too young to remember, or maybe never saw the original Smokey and the Bandit movie, but the premise of the whole thing was a truck load of bootlegged Coors.

When I was a "kid" in Virginia, if you went to a party where Coors was being consumed, you knew someone had "connedtions."

[Eagle1]

Here in Texas, most places bring the tea with a wedge of lemon in it. I have only the vaguest idea of what hot tea is like; I've never tried it.

hot tea is great, earl grey is simply the best

[Pennville_Bill]

Me too! Some of the boys on our football team made a "trip out west" to get some Coors for a party (supposedly, :smirky: ). Don't know how they got it, but they had it there at the party (I didn't drink beer, so it didn't matter to me, but it was the topic of discussion for the night that night).

Been there and done that myself. People offered up to $25/case - and this was back in the mid '70's............. But I didn't sell any of mine. Too damn precious; to damn good....... Once Coors crossed the Mississippi, the price went down and the taste went to hell. Take out the bootlegging allure and it was just another can of beer............:smirky:

[HomeschoolrsRUs]

Oh, yeah. You're probably too young to remember, or maybe never saw the original Smokey and the Bandit movie, but the premise of the whole thing was a truck load of bootlegged Coors.

Oh Lub, I'm older than you think, hun, I grew up on the Smokey and the Bandit movies! Jackie Gleason was SUCH a hoot. Watched all three of them with my Dad (another fond memory I shared with him), although the third never should have been made, imho. They've actually been showing Smokey reruns on AMC lately!

When I was a "kid" in Virginia, if you went to a party where Coors was being consumed, you knew someone had "connedtions."

Yep, same down here in FL.

[Charity]

Is Lone Star beer still the state fav? I lived in T for 6 years and I often miss it. Nobody here in Georgia knows how to do the Cotton Eyed Joe or the Shodish.

[Charity]

Cotton Eyed Joe (ahhh takes me back)
http://www.geocities.com/skinnyswavs23/BillMonroe_CottonEyedJoe.wav

[Naturalized-Texan]

As to the sweet/unsweet tea question, NT. Do you mean to tell me that you've lived here all these years and you've never heard Sweet Tea referred to as Texas Table Wine?
Yep. I never heard that.

[Naturalized-Texan]

hot tea is great, earl grey is simply the best
Absolutely, Earl Grey is the best tea.

[Naturalized-Texan]

Blue Bell Ice Cream is the best I've ever tasted. People all over the world have Blue Bell sent to them packed in dry ice.

[hdmundt]

<RANT>Begin rant....
The really good thing about the South is that thanks to modern media and connectivity as well as a flow of Northerners retiring it's becoming less like the Old South.<RANT off=""></RANT></RANT>

Congratulations! You've been indoctrinated! Of all the silliness in your rant, the quote above really takes the cake. I doubt that you have any understanding of what the "Old South" was and was not. And anyone who thinks that "modern media" and "Northerners" will put the South right is, to put it diplomatically, less than observant.

I don't know what you found so distrubing about lower Alabama, but I grew up there and would not have left save for the fact that my career interests had me gravitate toward larger cities (in the South). The inaccuracies in your rant make me think that you probably don't have the ability to see and appreciate what's around you.. mainly because you insist upon having it filtered through the ridiculous, masterbatory, elitist garbage that is the liberal mindset. You can find the worst of a place, anywhere. Don't make the mistake of thinking that you understand it by giving it a cursory once-over.

As for the war between the states, it was pretty-much inevitable that the two thoroughly incompatible economic systems would come to blows. The war was more about competing economic powers and a lot less about cultural or altruistic ideals than what passes for modern education is likely to teach you.

Re: gastronomical delights:
Don't fergit tripe, chitlins, and ambrosia. And fried frog legs. (My wife makes frog legs Chinese-style and they are delicious too).

And Moon Pies are made right here in Chattanooga. (The R-ah C Cola is correct, but you're also supposed to empty a package of Tom's p-nuts in it as soon as you pop the top).

[HomeschoolrsRUs]

Congratulations! You've been endoctrinated! Of all the silliness in your rant, the quote above really takes the cake. I doubt that you have any understanding of what the "Old South" was and was not. And anyone who thinks that "modern media" and "Northerners" will put the South right is, to put it diplomatically, less than observant.

I don't know what you found so distrubing about lower Alabama, but I grew up there and would not have left save for the fact that my career interests had me gravitate toward larger cities (in the South). The inaccuracies in your rant make me think that you probably don't have the ability to see and appreciate what's around you.. mainly because you insist upon having it filtered through the ridiculous, masterbatory, elitist garbage that is the liberal mindset. You can find the worst of a place, anywhere. Don't make the mistake of thinking that you understand it by giving it a cursory once-over.

As for the war between the states, it was pretty-much inevitable that the two thoroughly incompatible economic systems would come to blows. The war was more about competing economic powers and a lot less about cultural or altruistic ideals than what passes for modern education is likely to teach you.

BRAVO!! :claps:



Re: gastronomical delights:
Don't fergit tripe, chitlins, and ambrosia. And fried frog legs. (My wife makes frog legs Chinese-style and they are delicious too).

Not to mention, down here in da swampland, gator tail! :smirky:

And Moon Pies are made right here in Chattanooga. (The R-ah C Cola is correct, but you're also supposed to empty a package of Tom's p-nuts in it as soon as you pop the top).

I COMPLETELY forgot about the p-nuts! Yep, you simply CANNOT have an R-ah C Cola without 'em, why ... that wouldn't be Suthe'n!

And the most Southern of delicious delights .... BOILED peanuts!!! Yummmm! Can't watch a NASCAR race without them! :thumb:

[Rhino]

Cerb obviously came to the south with a firmly entrenched predisposition, and then colored all of his experiences in accordance with it, thereby modifying his perceptions to fit the predisposition rather than taking an objective look at it. Throughout my military career I had the chance to expose many other military members from the north to life in the south, both black and white, and to a man, they came away with the exact opposite impression from cerb. A couple of them have retired down south now. Stuff like that (cerb's experience) happens when you let your own prejudices cloud your ability to look at something objectively.

[Lazarus]

...Between the two lists of Southern foods, I believe pork chops and fried chicken were the only two items I like. The rest is either food I have never tried, or I just do not enjoy. I am an extremely fastidious and boring eater though....

I never cared for tea.

:rotflmbo: Trev, it is entirely possible that one day you may die having never lived...

[Charity]

Collard greens
Pinto beans
cornbread
sweet potato souffle
fried chicken
fried green maters
sweet tea
pecan pie

It's what's for supper. :-)

[Lazarus]

...I don't know what you found so distrubing about lower Alabama, but I grew up there and would not have left save for the fact that my career interests had me gravitate toward larger cities (in the South)...Wife and I have been talking more recently about how cold weather does not suit us, and the idea of retiring to the Mobile area is looking better and better every day... I would love to live out my elder days near the Gulf...

As for the war between the states, it was pretty-much inevitable that the two thoroughly incompatible economic systems would come to blows. The war was more about competing economic powers and a lot less about cultural or altruistic ideals than what passes for modern education is likely to teach you.You're preaching to a deaf audience with the likes of the 3-headed troll... His type MUST have an evil Deep South to comparitively justify their own ideals... The facts are irrelevent to him...

...And fried frog legs. (My wife makes frog legs Chinese-style and they are delicious too).Oh God Yes!!!

And Moon Pies are made right here in Chattanooga. (The R-ah C Cola is correct, but you're also supposed to empty a package of Tom's p-nuts in it as soon as you pop the top).Preeeeecisely, brother... Thou art truely a son of the South... Your credentials are impeccable:thumb:

[Lazarus]

Collard greens
Pinto beans
cornbread
sweet potato souffle
fried chicken
fried green maters
sweet tea
pecan pie

It's what's for supper. :-)Mama I'm Home!!!!:biggrin:

[lindilu]

I've lived in most every region of the country, and I've yet to find one where most people aren't decent and good to know.

And that includes the Deep South. There are always the assholes who hate people from other regions. But they are always losers, who aren't all that welcome where they live, either.

Many states in the South have made great strides in improviing education and standards of living. Racism is dying rapidly almost everywhere.

The jokes are about 30 years out of date. And guys, the Civil War ended over a hundred and thirty years ago. It's time to set the resentment aside.

Thank you for saying that. I live in South Dakota. I have a brother who lives in the South. I have another brother who lives on the west coast. I have lived in most regions of this country. I found great people in all of those places. I was at another board where this article was posted and it was a whole thread of 'stomp on the Northerners'. I can understand Southerners getting tired of the sterotypes, but it doesn't help to stereotype the rest of the country back. I moved back to this state after living other places around the country for 20+ years. It has decent, hardworking, friendly people. The only really stupid thing I think SD did was when they elected Tom Daschle. I moved back in time to help vote him out.

[Rhino]

I was born and raised in the south, but never have had collard greens, frogs legs or fried green tomatoes. I saw the movie this weekend though.

[Charity]

Ya'll c'mon over for supper :-)

[Rhino]

I'll skip the frogs legs. Wouldn't mind trying the others though.

[hdmundt]

And the most Southern of delicious delights .... BOILED peanuts!!! Yummmm! Can't watch a NASCAR race without them!

I wonder how many millions of boiled peanuts I ate in all those runs from Bullock County to PCBeach when I was younger????? If they're made right, five bags of 'em contain enough salt to kill any good-sized lake.

[hdmundt]

Throughout my military career I had the chance to expose many other military members from the north to life in the south, both black and white, and to a man, they came away with the exact opposite impression from cerb.

That would make an excellent human interest story, one that could touch upon nearly every aspect of life in America. But the media treats us to such in-depth ditties as whos-wearing-what at the Golden Globe Awards and Sushi TV.

(BTW, frog legs really are delicious. I wouldn't steer you wrong.....) :biggrin:

[hdmundt]

Wife and I have been talking more recently about how cold weather does not suit us, and the idea of retiring to the Mobile area is looking better and better every day... I would love to live out my elder days near the Gulf...

Some of my family moved to Fairhope, in Baldwin County, and they say it's the best kept secret in Alabama. Beautiful, low crime, plentiful housing, on the bay... I've visited there a couple of times and it is very attractive. Maybe worth a look??? (A fellow son-'o-the-South deserves a nice place to settle after a lifetime of battlin' mendacity and high-pocracy).

[MSGT]

Community Coffee

[Naturalized-Texan]

When I retired, my co-workers asked me if would move back to Pennsylvania to live. I said, "No." They asked, "How can you stand the humidity here [in Texas]?" I answered, "You don't have to shovel humidity."

[CountryGent]

I was born and raised in the south, but never have had collard greens, frogs legs or fried green tomatoes. I saw the movie this weekend though.

Collard greens will give ya enuff gas to blow a decent house right off its foundation.:biggrin: Don't be afraid of the frog legs or fried green maters tho......they is good for ya in every sense.:thumb::thumb:

[Lubbock]

Community Coffee?

That's a new one on me.

I've heard of Sheep Camp Coffee.

Please tell us what Community Coffee is, MSGT.

[Rhino]

http://www.communitycoffee.com/

[Lubbock]

It's a BRAND of coffee.

Okay.

Thanks, Rhino.

I'm a Folgers girl, and I don't know whether it's North or South.

[Jag Wife]

The only really stupid thing I think SD did was when they elected Tom Daschle. I moved back in time to help vote him out.

A grateful nation thanks you!

[Rhino]

I'm a Folgers girl, and I don't know whether it's North or South.It's Juan Valdez!! Definitely south. Columbia! LOL!

[Lubbock]

And for the record, Sheep Camp Coffee is not a BRAND.

[MSGT]

I'm a Folgers girl, and I don't know whether it's North or South.
That's because you haven't had community dark roast.

[Rhino]

Community is good coffee.

[Eagle1]

gevalia is the best, hands down

[MSGT]

gevaliagevalia is the best, hands downblasphemous, you've never had community

[Eagle1]

haha, i'll tell you what, i'll try community and then let you know exactly how much better gevalia is:thumb:

[MSGT]

I still have it shipped to me in cali. :thumb:

http://www.communitycoffee.com/ccc/Catalog_CS/coffee-detail/1500/premium-coffee-blends/everyday-premium-coffees/dark-roast/

[Naturalized-Texan]

I don't drink coffee because of its vile taste.

[lindilu]

A grateful nation thanks you!
You're welcome! :thumb:

[Pennville_Bill]

For those of yoy who are serious about good coffee: Montana Coffee Traders is the best place to shop by far. I personally recommend the Grizzly Blend. Buy the beans and grind them as needed.


http://www.coffeetraders.com/content/products.cfm?cat=COFFEES&subcat=Special%20Projects##Grizzly%20Blend

[Charity]

Some good java
http://www.badasscoffee.com/

[Charity]

I have a funny story about Badass coffee when we went to the homeschool world series this past May. LOL
Coach chewed us out royal for bringing in a cup to the game.
http://www.badasscoffee.com/Merchant2/graphics/00000001/product_31.jpg