Bush Blasts Republicans, Praises Dems

[Dowple]

President Bush and House Democrats got off to a good start in finding common ground yesterday at the Democrats' annual retreat -- with Mr. Bush saying they even share a bond in having been shot in the back by Republicans on immigration.
"You are not the only one with arrows in your back," the president said during a closed-door question-and-answer session with the House Democratic Caucus, according to two individuals who were in the room.
He was responding to Rep. Luis Gutierrez, Illinois Democrat, who said Republicans had been merciless during last year's elections in attacking Democrats on border security. He asked Mr. Bush to win more Republican support for the Democrats' preferred bill.
To a round of applause, the president said he will fight for a bill that does not deport illegal aliens. Mr. Bush said it would be a mistake to miss the opportunity for reform this year and let the issue enter the 2008 election campaign, when he worried it would become too political.



Read about it HERE (http://washingtontimes.com/national/20070203-115441-3185r.htm)

[Republican_Legion]

I hate to say it but the president is a idiot on immigration and doesnt realize that americans want the border secure and without any amnesty programs attached. His so called reform = amnesty.

[d'urville]

His amnesty bill was the primary reason the GOP lost both houses of Congress. Illegal immigration is a uniting issue for everyone but the far left, but Bush's pro-amnesty position is identical to Nancy Pelosi's.

He can't seem to grasp the demographics, his "reform" will add millions to the Democrat voting rolls, and they'll stay Democrat, the permanent underclass. He only beat Kerry by 2M votes, that would have never happened under amnesty.

Dick Morris is an optimist, if this thing passes Bush will probably be the last RINO and Republican president in this country.

[libertyman]

I hate to say it but the president is a idiot on immigration and doesnt realize that americans want the border secure and without any amnesty programs attached. His so called reform = amnesty.

President Bush is no idiot: he knows EXACTLY what he is doing. There is a reason for his refusing to do his Constitutional duty & protecting our nation from the invasion of illegals across the border, & that's because he, like so many other internationalists in his Cabinet, Congress, & other powerful groups in the US, seek to form a North American Union in the manner of the European Union.

Remember that meeting he had @ his Texas ranch w/ President Fox & Prime Minister Martin (?) several yrs ago? What about the Security & Prosperity Partnership, & the "NAFTA Superhighway", which will run from Mexico to Canada along the I-35 corridor?

[Beowulf]

And there will be die-hard Republicans who will continue to support him even after this. W is turning out like his dad towards the end of his presidency, losing touch with reality.

[Patriot Heart]

He is truly a Jekyl and Hyde character. He defends us overseas, and then here at home...nothing. I am baffled. The hideous proposition of a North American Union does seem to fit though.

[HomeschoolrsRUs]

He is truly a Jekyl and Hyde character. He defends us overseas, and then here at home...nothing. I am baffled. The hideous proposition of a North American Union does seem to fit though.

My thoughts exactly.

[UnkHiram]

I hate to say it but the president is a idiot on immigration and doesnt realize that americans want the border secure and without any amnesty programs attached. His so called reform = amnesty.

Sorry Legion, but I DON'T hate to say it. President Bush is at the very least an Idiot on the subject of Illegal Immigration. Other words all pop into my mind, words that have Treason as their root. President Bush's refusal to secure the border is the single biggest "Problem" of his Presidency since 911. In the post-911 world we cannot have open borders!

[Lazarus]

"You are not the only one with arrows in your back," the president said during a closed-door question-and-answer session with the House Democratic Caucus, according to two individuals who were in the room. You're right about that, Mr Bush... Every Conservative voter who put you in office twice has your bullets in his/her back... You're a traitor to those who were loyal to you...

And now you openly join forces with the Left to get what you want... You have no shame, no loyalty, and no code... Im finished with you...

[Wolfcounsel]

ANY President who abandons the Constitution in favor of something international is an IDIOT.

Any questions?

[Lazarus]

He's a globalist just like his dad... And as such, in my mind, he's no American...

One wonders what other secret globalist agendas he has in his back pocket ready to be passed by his new friends on the Left...

Now we will learn which Republican lawmakers are real Conservatives and which are the president's lapdogs...

[dPrasse]

He's a globalist just like his dad... And as such, in my mind, he's no American...

One wonders what other secret globalist agendas he has in his back pocket ready to be passed by his new friends on the Left...

Now we will learn which Republican lawmakers are real Conservatives and which are the president's lapdogs...

Amen , Laz ...

and as far as him "protecting" us overseas ... I believe our security is just a by-product of his globalist activities ...

Libertyman hits the nail on the head with the comments concerning the North American Union he is pushing ... former Sec Shultz is in Mexico setting things in motion that have yet to be shown to the general US public ...

My support of Bush on the WoT is at the same level as Patton's support of Russia in WWII against the Nazi's ... enemies that happen to be allied in a common goal ...

Bush has sold out Conservatives anytime he has had the opportunity ....

and , now , I heard rumblings of another Bush , Jeb , getting into the race with GOP/Globalist support ... lets just hand the White House to the Dems ...

[omegatrump]

The Bush crime family have followed a very predictable path for generations. The abandonment of the US Constitution, ("it's just a --- damned piece of paper") by George W was just as predictable.

As for his protecting us over seas, I am afraid that isn't happening either. The only thing W is doing is protecting his families interest in the middle east oil fields.

As for working with the Dems, well, that is who he is, plain and simple. I've been saying that for a long, long time.

[omegatrump]

I agree dPrasse, at least then you can face your enemy. They won't slit your throat from behind. As ignorant as the Republican constituency is, it's doubtful that they could put anyone in office that would do any better.

I am doubtful that we will be able to survive a Hitlery presidential term. If we do, (a mighty big IF), we must be ready to put an American in office.

[Lubbock]

Omegatrump, you are a damned liar.

[Republican_Legion]

Omegatrump, you are a damned liar.

Got any facts to back that up besides emotional statements ?

[Lubbock]

How about you [or the asshole] post FACTS to back up his assertion that Bush ever said the Constitution was just a goddamned piece of paper, or that the Bush Crime Family exists, smartass.

You hate Bush.

That's fine.

I could care less who hates him or who likes him.

To throw lies around [and you've done your share --or else you're just plain stupid and believe every lie you get from your DNC fax every morning] diminishes your argument.

[Republican_Legion]

How about you [or the asshole] post FACTS to back up his assertion that Bush ever said the Constitution was just a goddamned piece of paper, or that the Bush Crime Family exists, smartass.

You hate Bush.

That's fine.

I could care less who hats him or who likes him.

To throw lies around [and you've done your share --or else you're just plain stupid and believe every lie you get from your DNC fax every morning] diminishes your argument.

I dont have a fax machine btw. Calling people names because you disagree is childish.
Its a good thing not all Texans are arrogant like you cause if they were I'd never ever go to that state again. Instead of debating you like to call people the A word or other names. All that does is show your weakness and lack of character.


I could care less who hats him or who likes him.


For one who cares less about it you do spend alot of time defending Amnesty George on threads that attack his immigration position.

First of all I dont hate bush. However I really hate his policys on immigration.

[Lubbock]

And that post makes you either a damned liar or just plain stupid.

I defy you find where I have defended Bush on he Border Issue. Rather, I have said specifically, numerous times, that I do not agree with or like the way the Border Issue has been handled.

Your problem is, you don't have enough common sense to fully understand the issue, therefore, you have no idea where to place blame.

You heap blame on Bush by the shovelfull, and after a while it becomes just plain assinine.

You and others.

[Wolfcounsel]

It takes but an order to arm the National Guard and have them protect our borders from intrusions. Does anybody know the difficulties that entail giving that order?

[libertyman]

ANY President who abandons the Constitution in favor of something international is an IDIOT.

Any questions?

Yes, I have one:

Why are you kind enough to use the word "idiot", when it seems to me that TRAITOR would be more precise?

Actually, I don't understand why George Soros hates President Bush like he does: their goals of having an "Open Society" are quite similar, & their differences are w/in the details of how it will be carried out & who gets what.

[Republican_Legion]

And that post makes you either a damned liar or just plain stupid.

Your problem is, you don't have enough common sense to fully understand the issue, therefore, you have no idea where to place blame.

You heap blame on Bush by the shovelfull, and after a while it becomes just plain assinine.

You and others.

Bush is to blame if he is demanding Amnesty for Illegals and attacking Republicans who disagree with his idea of Amnesty.

Your problem is that your full of anger and arrogance and use emotional rants instead of debating.

And that post of yours makes you look like you lost your common sense.

[Wolfcounsel]

"Why are you kind enough to use the word "idiot", when it seems to me that TRAITOR would be more precise?" --libertyman

You're right. Any President who overrides the Constitution in favor of international law deserves what is in store for traitors. This applies to ALL public servants who shit on the Constitution also.

[libertyman]

Omegatrump, you are a damned liar.

Yeah, let's cut out the name-calling to ea other, ok? PLEASE.

[libertyman]

It takes but an order to arm the National Guard and have them protect our borders from intrusions. Does anybody know the difficulties that entail giving that order?

Isn't that a responsibility of the Governors of the border states? IMO, that shoulda been done years ago.

[EveningStar]

Are there any reputable sources listed here for this quote?

"Just a Goddamned Piece of Paper" (http://www.google.com/search?q=%22Just+a+Goddamned+Piece+of+Paper)

[Lubbock]

No. There are none.

It's a damned lie.

If you follow the trail [and I have, as have others here at FC] it's circular. It comes back right where it started --with a Bush Hating liar.

Recently, one poster came here with the sole purpose of posting that "article" and he kept it up. Again, and again, and again. On almost every thread he posted the lie. I believe he's been banned. In fact, I believe he was banned within just a few days of being granted the priviledge of posting here.

Strange that so many so-called Conservatives come here and behave exactly like Michael Moore and Cindy Cheehan.

[Republican_Legion]

Strange that so many so-called Conservatives come here and behave exactly like Michael Moore and Cindy Cheehan.

If your talking about yourself then I agree.
No where did I agree with the statement "Bush said its just a GD piece of paper". Your puting words into peoples mouths.

[DoctorDoom]

This appears to be the source:

Last month, Republican Congressional leaders filed into the Oval Office to meet with President George W. Bush and talk about renewing the controversial USA Patriot Act.

Several provisions of the act, passed in the shell shocked period immediately following the 9/11 terrorist attacks, caused enough anger that liberal groups like the American Civil Liberties Union had joined forces with prominent conservatives like Phyllis Schlafly and Bob Barr to oppose renewal.

GOP leaders told Bush that his hardcore push to renew the more onerous provisions of the act could further alienate conservatives still mad at the President from his botched attempt to nominate White House Counsel Harriet Miers to the Supreme Court.

"I don't give a goddamn," Bush retorted. "I'm the President and the Commander-in-Chief. Do it my way."

"Mr. President," one aide in the meeting said. "There is a valid case that the provisions in this law undermine the Constitution."

"Stop throwing the Constitution in my face," Bush screamed back. "It's just a goddamned piece of paper!"Bush on the Constitution: "Just a goddamned piece of paper" (http://www.capitolhillblue.com/artman/publish/article_7779.shtml)

Doug Thompson has over the last several years seemingly turned toward the dark side. ReaderRant, the CHB forum, has become "civil". In both cases that's a damned shame. RR was one of the two boards where I cut my teeth on Net opinionizing.

Poilitics aside, Doug is a great guy. He ranted with the best of them. He was an early Coulter.

[EveningStar]

This appears to be the source:

Bush on the Constitution: "Just a goddamned piece of paper" (http://www.capitolhillblue.com/artman/publish/article_7779.shtml)

Doug Thompson has over the last several years seemingly turned toward the dark side. ReaderRant, the CHB forum, has become "civil". In both cases that's a damned shame. RR was one of the two boards where I cut my teeth on Net opinionizing.

Poilitics aside, Doug is a great guy. He ranted with the best of them. He was an early Coulter.

It turns out that I posted this article here a year ago. (http://www.freeconservatives.com/vb/showthread.php?t=30456)

[Etaoin]

You're right about that, Mr Bush... Every Conservative voter who put you in office twice has your bullets in his/her back... You're a traitor to those who were loyal to you...

And now you openly join forces with the Left to get what you want... You have no shame, no loyalty, and no code... Im finished with you...

I'm going to jump in here and regret it. The evolution of people's relationship with each other evolved from individual "family" units that relied on the strongest for their protection. These units were then conquered or assimilated into larger groups (tribes or Clans) that shared a common culture and language. With the advent of agriculture the tribes had to protect a geographical area, which were, in effect, fiefdoms. war and conquest of the fiefdoms created larger entities called nations. Our nation is now in the path of the historical imperative to form a continental government. No matter how we feel or think about it, it is inevitable! So far, the "internationalists" have been easing us into it ever since WW1.

In fact, both the League of Nations and the UN, were doomed to failure as they were attempts to bypass the stage of Continental Government.

I fear that the best we can do is recognize the reality of this and position the U.S. to form the continental Government on the basis of OUR constitution rather than that of Mexico or Canada! The advances in communication and transportation effectively make the world smaller than this nation when we were 13 colonies. I won't see it, but the younger ones who post here will see a one world government!

Ladies and Gentlemen, the meat is on the table...start carving! :biggrin:

[Wolfcounsel]

"I fear that the best we can do is recognize the reality of this and position the U.S. to form the continental Government on the basis of OUR constitution rather than that of Mexico or Canada! The advances in communication and transportation effectively make the world smaller than this nation when we were 13 colonies. I won't see it, but the younger ones who post here will see a one world government!" --Etaoin

The scumbags running the country do not want our Constitution. They want international law established. It means more money and power for them once they get into global offices. It will eventually culminate in a war for freedom, with the scumbags and their forces losing. This one world government is for anal-retentives only.

[blackwatch]

Doug Thompson is a communist 'liberal' traitor...why pay any attention to any liberals except to use their own words against them?....I have read this 'treaty'...it is for commerence and business...thats all....what are you guys getting so upset about?

[Wolfcounsel]

"...I have read this 'treaty'...it is for commerence and business...thats all....what are you guys getting so upset about?" --blackwatch

Doing commerce and business with "anonymous society" assholes is not a good thing for America.

[PaulRevere]

"You are not the only one with arrows in your back," the president said
Yes, there are a couple border patrol agents sitting in prison right now who know exactly how you feel, George; not to mention about 51 million voters that went with you in the last election.

[MrSanity]

President Bush is no idiot: he knows EXACTLY what he is doing. There is a reason for his refusing to do his Constitutional duty & protecting our nation from the invasion of illegals across the border, & that's because he, like so many other internationalists in his Cabinet, Congress, & other powerful groups in the US, seek to form a North American Union in the manner of the European Union.

Remember that meeting he had @ his Texas ranch w/ President Fox & Prime Minister Martin (?) several yrs ago? What about the Security & Prosperity Partnership, & the "NAFTA Superhighway", which will run from Mexico to Canada along the I-35 corridor?On issues like immigration, I have to agree with you. MexiCanadAmerica would be a terrible combination. We'd be sandwiched between two socialist-leaning countries, and our sovereignty will be overthrown if we aren't careful.

[Little Bit Farm]

Personally I think that the whole idea of an American Union is simply an excuse to get rid of the Constitution of the United States of America. There is no possible way to incorporate such a change under the current Constitution. It would require a constitutional convention, which would open the door for all kinds of changes, changes which the socialists and globalists would use to completely destroy liberty in America. Personally I think that is exactly what has been happening irregardless, but this would be the death knell for liberty, not only in the US, but all over the world as well.

Little Bit Farm

[DesertFox]

No matter how we feel or think about it, it is inevitable! ET, the last ones to talk about historical inevitability ended up on the trash heap of history. Or maybe it was "in the trash bin" of history. In either case, they got flushed down the toilet of history with all the other shit.

Ain't no such thing as historical inevitability. Things happen because people make them happen or fail to stop them happening.