Do Vanity Candidates Really Have a Chance? (Michael Medved)

[EveningStar]

Two days ago, in blogging about the abortion records of the serious GOP Presidential prospects (McCain, Giuliani, Romney), I provoked a great deal of anger by writing off the other current contenders (Huckabee, Brownback, Tancredo, Ron Paul, Gilmore, Thompson, Duncan Hunter) as "lesser" candidates who stand no realistic chance of winning primaries or grabbing the nomination. No matter how much you may admire these people, their candidacies are irrelevant – more a bid for attention, or a preparation for future races, than a realistic bid for power...

When, in the last 60 years of Presidential politics, did any obscure underdog manage to defy the odds and win the nomination of the Republican Party?...Full Article (http://michaelmedved.townhall.com/blog/g/a5fc5c07-d108-4da3-b043-47f85811d609&comments=true)

[maxparrish]

Full article (http://michaelmedved.townhall.com/blog/g/a5fc5c07-d108-4da3-b043-47f85811d609)


I didn't agree till I read the article, as depressing as it is I think he's right. And as bad as Repbulican sheeple mentality is, it is clear that California will anoint the front runner...one of the first three.

California's moving of the primary to just behind New Hampshire will be a disaster for lesser knwon canidates of both parties. Whoever wins California (either McCain or Rudi) will win the nomination.

Romeny is actually an ideal choice - both electable, well spoken, "clean", and more conservative. ONLY if conservatives rally around a single choice can we upset the top two.

Hopefully the weekly standard and national review will endorse the same fellow, and he gets some funds. Otherwise, its a year of soma - just standing their and waiting for the unhappy results.

[Patrick Henry]

How can you compete when you are 'written off' before the first debate? No wonder our country is going to hell in a hand basket? Maybe we should do away with 'voting' and just use a popularity poll, a BCS poll or whoever wins 'Best Actor' at the Oscars?

It sure would save me the aggravation of having to think about the issues and qualifications.

[dPrasse]

I've called for "Nationwide , same day Primaries " for a long time ...
after the first few primaries , it is really hard for any "2nd choicers" to stand a chance , because , so many Sheeple (of BOTH parties) just resign themselves to supporting the person the msm tells them has the best chance to beat the other party ....

[Patrick Henry]

I've called for "Nationwide , same day Primaries " for a long time ...
after the first few primaries , it is really hard for any "2nd choicers" to stand a chance , because , so many Sheeple (of BOTH parties) just resign themselves to supporting the person the msm tells them has the best chance to beat the other party ....

And the sheeple seem oblivious to that simple fact.

[dPrasse]

And the sheeple seem oblivious to that simple fact.

And the 2 Parties love the staggered Primaries ... it is easier for them to spend big bucks pushing their "annointed one" early on and let the rest of the country stuck with no real choices ...

One Day Primary would really give Grass Roots groups in all 50 States a much more even playing field ...

Oh well .. 't ain't never gonna happen ... the Sheeple enjoy being told who to vote for ...

[Patrick Henry]

And the 2 Parties love the staggered Primaries ... it is easier for them to spend big bucks pushing their "annointed one" early on and let the rest of the country stuck with no real choices ...

One Day Primary would really give Grass Roots groups in all 50 States a much more even playing field ...

Oh well .. 't ain't never gonna happen ... the Sheeple enjoy being told who to vote for ...

I say bring back the Whigs and the Bull Moose parties!

[Naturalized-Texan]

If Brownback, Tancredo, Ron Paul, and Duncan Hunter had the leadership qualities to be president in this time of national peril, they would be more than just backbenchers in Congress.

[Patrick Henry]

And if Newt Gingrinch runs, then what will you do?

[dPrasse]

And if Newt Gingrinch runs, then what will you do?

Laugh ?

I nice article on Romney ...

http://frontpagemag.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=26362

[BuckeyeMike]

If Brownback, Tancredo, Ron Paul, and Duncan Hunter had the leadership qualities to be president in this time of national peril, they would be more than just backbenchers in Congress.

Other than name recognition...WTF "leadership qualities" could you ascribe to The Bitch and Barracks Hussein Osama?
The Bitch "leads" through fear and fear only.....every body is absolutely frightened of this pig...why?
The Osama dude? Skin color and skin color alone....and the DBM pushing his darkie ass as though he were some sort of gawd.

[Patrick Henry]

Laugh ?

I nice article on Romney ...

http://frontpagemag.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=26362

Point being that Newt is not a 'backbencher'.

Aside from the flip-flopping criticism, Romney seems ok. Of course, he's not going to get much support from the GOP lemmings until we can see what he looks like in drag. :biggrin:

[dPrasse]

Flip flopping on ?? Abortion ? I do believe , from what I've read , his actions have been very solid Pro-Life and , in the state of Mass , I doubt it is just a "show" ... Took real balls ... his points have matured ...

[Patrick Henry]

Flip flopping on ?? Abortion ? I do believe , from what I've read , his actions have been very solid Pro-Life and , in the state of Mass , I doubt it is just a "show" ... Took real balls ... his points have matured ...

The gay issue and abortion is what's being reported. The fact that he does come from Mass. causes me concern. Mass.?? Hmmm...

[dPrasse]

The gay issue and abortion is what's being reported.

So , I have (at this point in time ) a guy in favor of "Open Borders", basically keeping the status quo , Brownback vs a guy that has a flip flop past on ass bandits , Romney ....

Considering the other choices at this time ...

I will gladly welcome the debate between Romney and Brownback ....
The fact that he does come from Mass. causes me concern. Mass.?? Hmmm...

Well ... Mass was , at one time , the center of a Revolution ...

Doc Doom hails from Mass , so , the state can't ALL be bad !!

[buckeyepete]

Dock Doom aside, Mass belongs to the Kennedy clan, they run the state and everything in it. I feel sorry for DD, and i hope he keeps his fight up. "DOWN WITH THE KENNEDY POLITICAL DICTATORIAL HOLD OVER MASS.

[DesertFox]

When, in the last 60 years of Presidential politics, did any obscure underdog manage to defy the odds and win the nomination of the Republican Party? It did happen, but on an alternate timeline.

[maxparrish]

So , I have (at this point in time ) a guy in favor of "Open Borders", basically keeping the status quo , Brownback vs a guy that has a flip flop past on ass bandits , Romney ....

Considering the other choices at this time ...

I will gladly welcome the debate between Romney and Brownback ....
Well ... Mass was , at one time , the center of a Revolution ...
Doc Doom hails from Mass , so , the state can't ALL be bad !!

I just went to Romney's website, and that of a supporter. Then I checked out a few reviews. I confess, he is disappointing. His like Bill Clinton, parsing words, speaking in vague generalities...real oily.

He's a weasel. He runs from the immigration debate, and is described as "enthused about legal immigration". What the f' does that mean?He's against amnesty, then alludes to amnesty as the only option.

That sealed it. I give up. Baring a miracle in Iowa and New Hampshire, the little guys don't have a chance. Hopefully Tancredo will provide entertainment on TV shows with all the candidates in a forum. One could really roast these guys...

[Naturalized-Texan]

Newt, Mitt, Rudy: I will consider them all and I have more than a year to make up my mind. None of them is 100% conservative, but no one, not even Reagan, is or has been. They are all strong leaders and they all take conservative positions on a vast majority of the issues facing us. However, if we don't win the War on Terror, the rest of the issues pale into insignificance because we will all be dead.

[dPrasse]

However, if we don't win the War on Terror, the rest of the issues pale into insignificance because we will all be dead.

But , if we destroy the lifestyle we are fighting for , all in the name of the WoT , all is moot ,also .... That is why the "other issues" are just as important to keep track of ... If I have 2 candidates to chose from that seem to understand the WoT .. the other issues are the deciders ...

We've been fighting these terrorists , in various forms since the Halls of Montezuma ... I doubt the WoTwill ever be won ...the best we can do is keep the bad guys in check from now until the End Time ...

[Naturalized-Texan]

But , if we destroy the lifestyle we are fighting for , all in the name of the WoT , all is moot ,also .... That is why the "other issues" are just as important to keep track of ... If I have 2 candidates to chose from that seem to understand the WoT .. the other issues are the deciders ...

We've been fighting these terrorists , in various forms since the Halls of Montezuma ... I doubt the WoTwill ever be won ...the best we can do is keep the bad guys in check from now until the End Time ...
However, we have haven't faced a threat as dangerous as the threat of IslamoFascist terrorism since the British torched the White House during the War of 1812. No other enemy since then has posed such a threat to our homeland - a threat that could end up killing millions, if not tens of millions, of innocent Americans including our children and grandchildren. If we don't win the War on Terror, we will see terrorist attacks that could wipe out whole cities with the loss of life 3 or 4 orders of magnitude greater than the 9/11 attacks. Once we win the War on Terror, or at least see that victory is in sight, then we can address the other issues that we all have on our lists.

Winning the War on Terror should be head and shoulders above any other issue facing us in the 2008 election.

[DoctorDoom]

Rule of thumb: in Massholechusetts, no conservative is ever elected. For Republican candidates, only RINOs should apply.

With the end of the GOP's 16-year hold on the offices of governor and lieutenant governor, Bay State Democrats in 2007 will enjoy a political monopoly unequaled by either party in any state in the country.

In January, Democrats will hold all six statewide constitutional offices, all 12 seats in Congress, roughly 7-to-1 majorities in both chambers of the state Legislature, and all eight seats on the Governor's Council. With returns still incomplete late last night, Republicans were losing one net state Senate seat, which would drop the GOP to an all-time low of five seats in the 40-member upper chamber, and in close fights for several House seats. The highest ranking Republican officeholders in the state will be a smattering of district attorneys and county sheriffs.

The party's slide has been so precipitous that Republicans yesterday did not contest 130 of 200 legislative seats, fielded a challenger in only three of 10 congressional districts, and put up fewer candidates for statewide office (three) than the Green-Rainbow Party (four).For Republicans in Mass., a feeling of out and down (http://www.boston.com/news/local/politics/candidates/articles/2006/11/08/for_republicans_in_mass_a_feeling_of_out_and_down? mode=PF)

I've been tweaking the noses of the libbies who post on the local newsrag's BB (I found out about it last week, and they hate me already :evilgrin: ). Reading their RATbot crap is a lesson in mindlessness. There's no thought in their posts. It's 100% Bush hatred, GOP/conservative-bashing, cliches, bumper-sticker slogans and defeatism. The things we write in parody, they write for real.

IMO, thiis state should be walled off from the rest of the country and used as America's lunatic asylum. It contributes nothing but assholes to the political scene.

[Lubbock]

If Massholechusetts has the lock on lunatics, then what are we going to use California for when we wall it off?

A place to hold all the wetbacks?

Hey, maybe I'm on to something . . .

[DoctorDoom]

Sounds good. Many of them are there already. Send the rest there.