View Full Version : Dixie Chicks, Dissent, & "Whacked" Paranoia
HomeschoolrsRUs
02-13-2007, 10:23 AM
Dixie Chicks, dissent, and "whacked" paranoia::By Jon Sanders (http://www.townhall.com/columnists/column.aspx?UrlTitle=dixie_chicks,_dissent,_and_wh acked_paranoia&ns=JonSanders&dt=02/13/2007&page=full&comments=true)
"I think people are paranoid" was how former Grateful Dead member Mickey Hart's comments to Reuters began. Hart was speaking about this year's Grammy Awards and the Dixie Chicks. Then he provided a sterling example of that very paranoia.
"I think that if they speak out, they think they're gonna get whacked by the government. It's pretty oppressive now. Look at the Dixie Chicks. They got whacked."
What? The government did nothing concerning The Dixie Chicks after they "spoke out" against President Bush while they were in concert in London. The singers were free to say whatever they wanted, just as the buying public was free to say whatever they wanted with respect to what the Dixie Chicks said.
There was public outcry, and indeed the Dixie Chicks lost fans and concertgoers. But they also garnered new fans, including fawning press. Their "naked" cover on Rolling Stone seems to have started a new fad: the Multimillionaire Artist As Suffering Figure of Persecution.
CountryGent
02-13-2007, 10:45 AM
I'm happy to report that our 2 local C&W Radio Stations still refuse to play the music of the Dixie Twits.....:thumb::thumb:
The same guy owns both Stations and if ya want to get him riled all you have to do is mention the Dixie Twits....LOL!
Air-Warrior
02-13-2007, 10:47 AM
How disingenuous can a band of people be? They're convinced that they should be able to voice their opinion about what they don't like...
...and other people should too,
...unless folks are voicing their opinion against the Ditzy Chiclets? Then, they have no right to an opinion. :rolleyes:
Kathy30
02-13-2007, 10:53 AM
The Grammys are as free to hand out awards to losers as the Oscars are. Didn't Transamerica get an Oscar last year? Did anyone see it? Did it play in a theater near you?
The Grammys won by the Dixie Chicks were the industries way of smoothing tattered feelings.
There is not one failed liberal entertainer that does not think that their failure is the fault of government censorship. Not one. The Chicks are just the most vocal about it. They believe that the public's failure to buy their records or listen to their music is because the public hasn't been sufficiently persuaded to buy because of government censorship.
BEST45CAL
02-13-2007, 11:16 AM
I would like to think that they were given this award based on their "artistic" talent, but this is actually nothing more than an affirmation of the music industry's obvious catering to those who are anti-Bush. If there had been a musical group that was even more militant and radical than the Twits, then I'm sure that they would have won those awards.
I don't think the Grammy's are all about music anymore. Giving the Twits those awards was the same as sticking a finger in GWB's eye.
CountryGent
02-13-2007, 11:36 AM
I don't think the Grammy's are all about music anymore. Giving the Twits those awards was the same as sticking a finger in GWB's eye.
I don't think the man will lose much sleep over this. LOL!
BEST45CAL
02-13-2007, 12:17 PM
LOL yep...yer prolly right.
Wolfcounsel
02-13-2007, 12:19 PM
To the Dixie Pricks--
Enjoy those Grammies. You can't even wipe your asses with them.
DoctorDoom
02-13-2007, 12:42 PM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v349/DocDoom777/PITA/DIXIE_CHICKS.jpg
CountryGent
02-13-2007, 01:09 PM
I've seen better lookin wimmen working a Tijiuana cathouse.......for $2 a roll..........:evilgrin:
BEST45CAL
02-13-2007, 02:22 PM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v349/DocDoom777/PITA/DIXIE_CHICKS.jpg
Can you say PhotoShop?
Lubbock
02-13-2007, 04:23 PM
I'm ashamed that Phat Gnat Maines is from Lubbock.
DoctorDoom
02-13-2007, 09:25 PM
Can you say PhotoShop?"Entertainment" might have used it, but who knows? Many liberal twits have nice bodies as a compensation for deficient brains.
Trevelyan
02-15-2007, 01:33 AM
The Grammys are as free to hand out awards to losers as the Oscars are. Didn't Transamerica get an Oscar last year? Did anyone see it? Did it play in a theater near you?
No, "Transamerica" did not win an Oscar, and I did not see it.
Also, I would not really compare the Grammys to the Oscars. The Grammy's seem to most times have more of a what I refer to as a "Michael Medved mentality" when it comes to handing out awards. That is it is a popularity contest almost. Medved would probably award Best Picture to whatever movie made the most money that year.
DesertFox
02-23-2007, 03:33 PM
I still haven't heard a song by the Dixie Twats.
USPatriot8320
02-23-2007, 04:09 PM
I still like GoodBye Earl :-p
Timberwolf
02-23-2007, 06:01 PM
A term used by the crowd I used to hang with, which refers to morally compromised women, comes to mind whenever I hear the name "Dixie Chicks"...please excuse me, but that term is "cum dumpster"...and it fits to a "T".
Trevelyan
02-23-2007, 06:08 PM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v215/Trevelyan/oh.gif
DesertFox
02-23-2007, 10:18 PM
please excuse meOnly if you say, "Pretty please."
Timberwolf
02-23-2007, 11:21 PM
Pretty please? With a cherry and chocolate sprinkles on top?
DesertFox
02-24-2007, 07:35 AM
And whipped cream with tomatas and jalapenas. :evilgrin:
BuckeyeMike
02-24-2007, 08:55 AM
Lussee......Nobel.......Jimmy Carter
Grammys.....Dixie Twats...........samo, samo
by the way, I think Rush Limbaugh would gain more credibility if he were to refuse that Nobel he's been nominated for.
Zorcan
02-24-2007, 10:26 AM
"Entertainment" might have used it, but who knows? Many liberal twits have nice bodies as a compensation for deficient brains.
Agreed. The one on the left might be worth a night out, after about 20 shooters and some Chivas Regal and a cheap motel.
Maggie_T
02-24-2007, 04:13 PM
No, "Transamerica" did not win an Oscar, and I did not see it.
Also, I would not really compare the Grammys to the Oscars. The Grammy's seem to most times have more of a what I refer to as a "Michael Medved mentality" when it comes to handing out awards. That is it is a popularity contest almost. Medved would probably award Best Picture to whatever movie made the most money that year.
You're right, Trev. You can't compare the two. The Oscars have a more Michael Moore mentality. The more a film pushes the leftist agenda, the more Oscars it wins. That's why Al Gore's scaremockumentary is going to win an Oscar, mark my words.
Just like Moore's Farenheit 9/11 fantasy, it is full of the kind of lies liberals love to believe.
Totally with you on this, man.
Trevelyan
02-24-2007, 06:11 PM
But "Fahrenheit 9/11" did not even receive a nomination.
Anyway:
2005 - "Crash"
2004 - "Million Dollar Baby"
2003 - "The Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King"
2002 - "Chicago"
2001 - "A Beautiful Mind"
2000 - "Gladiator"
The above are the past few Best Picture winners. I do not really see how those could be considered too political, yet alone having some sort of inherent overly liberal bias.
DesertFox
02-24-2007, 06:42 PM
Then maybe you're not paying attention, Trev. "A Beautiful Mind" was about a guy who was zealously anti-Semitic. That was completely written out of the movie. That's how liberal bias usually works -- by what does not get said.
Trevelyan
02-24-2007, 07:09 PM
Then maybe you're not paying attention, Trev. "A Beautiful Mind" was about a guy who was zealously anti-Semitic. That was completely written out of the movie. That's how liberal bias usually works -- by what does not get said.
I am sorry, but that hardly makes it a "liberal film" in the vein Maggie was going on about even it this were true, and that is arguable.
"The producers claim that they omitted the anti-semitic remarks because they did not serve the story. Nash himself has argued that although he did make these comments, he was extremely mentally ill at the time."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Beautiful_Mind_(film)
Was he anti-Semitic?
“I did have strange ideas during certain periods of time,” Nash concedes. Typical, he says, of the paranoid rantings of schizophrenics.
But, says Wallace, Nash is not anti-Semitic, and never has been. “Everyone with whom I talked who knows John, everyone say no. He . . . doesn't feel that way about Jews at all,” Wallace says.
Nash’s wife Alicia adds, “I've never heard him say anything like that.”
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2002/03/14/60minutes/main503731.shtml
DesertFox
02-24-2007, 08:17 PM
Based on those sources? Sorry, Trev, but if you want to rebut, it's going to have to be something a little more credible.
In that connection, maybe you can answer this: Is Mel Gibson antiSemitic? If he isn't, then why did he say what he did, even if he was drunk at the time? If he is, then why didn't CBS and Wikipedia defend him?
What made the film "a liberal film" was the politics behind it. They count, too, you know. In any film and any book or article, what is NOT seen or said or written matters every bit as much as what IS. The film about Nash was a lie because it left out a part of his thinking that matters in today's world. An honest film would have shown his antiSemitic comments along with his later rebuttal of them. By omitting those comments, the movie made him a much more sympathetic figure than he would otherwise have been.
Trevelyan
02-24-2007, 08:54 PM
I do not believe having what you would deem "more credible" sources will somehow prove one way or the other that he is or is not anti-Semitic. It is claimed that schizophrenia played a role in any anti-Semitic comments he made. That is it. It is up to you to make the call.
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Also, I just want to add that I did a quick Google search based on the fact that I had heard about his anti-Semitic remarks being caused by his illness, and those were the first two sources that appeared.
Anyway, you mention the "politics of the film." What exactly was the political agenda of this movie? I cannot for the life of me think of what it was trying to accomplish politically. Furthermore, I am still not clear on why not broaching anti-Semitic remarks is a "liberal agenda."
Lastly, I do not know where his anti-Semitic comments would have really fit into the film, but if they had, I actually think he would have come off as even more sympathetic if they included it and portrayed him as having no control over it due to his illness.
EDIT - Here is another quote a randomly came across on Google.
"Doug - 18Mar2002 - Those who call John Forbes Nash "anti-Semitic" obviously have not read Nasar's book. When you hear someone say "Nash is an anti-Semite," be sure to ask them if they read A Beautiful Mind. During his illness, Nash was against everything, even attempting to discard his US citizenship on multiple occasions. He was against his wife, his concubine, his legitimate son, his illegitimate son, his alma mater, his friends, his peers, politicians, authority, employers, Harvard, Princeton,..., virtually everything and everyone. Doug - 18Mar2002."
http://www.quantonics.com/Review_A_Beautiful_Mind.html
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DesertFox
02-24-2007, 09:27 PM
Notice how every one of those touched him personally in his life -- except Jews? Jews, to anti-Semites, are an abstraction. It's hard to hate a guy whom you personally know to be a good dude, but you can hate an abstraction. And why would he hate Jews while crazy but not Japs or blacks or other standard whipping boys of that era? It makes no sense except as anti-Semitism.
I object to the dishonesty of airbrushing a real person's life of such a potential stain.
Looks like you and I are just not going to agree about this.
Maggie_T
02-25-2007, 08:50 AM
Of course not. Hollywood is as sacred to liberals as the myth of global warming.
Remember, Fox. It's only Fox channel that is outrageously biased (to the right). Hollywood and the drive-by media are mainstream, don't you know. If they say they are neutral, then by golly gee, you'd better believe it.
As for F911, it may not have gotten an Oscar, but the Frogs drooled over it and gave it the, what was it? the Golden Palm at Cannes, or something. Oh, AND a standing ovation.
Please. :rolleyes:
Trevelyan
02-25-2007, 09:29 AM
I didn't say Hollywood is neutral. Of course liberals vastly outnumber conservatives. My point is that you claimed they only hand out awards to "leftist agenda pushing films," and the trend as of late when it comes to Best Picture winners does not support that claim.
Anyway, yes "Fahrenheit 9/11" won the Palme d'Or, but that has nothing to do with the Academy Awards.
DesertFox
02-25-2007, 10:23 AM
Or the Dixie Twats.
Peachdiane
02-25-2007, 10:55 AM
The film about Nash was a lie because it left out a part of his thinking that matters in today's world. An honest film would have shown his antiSemitic comments along with his later rebuttal of them. By omitting those comments, the movie made him a much more sympathetic figure than he would otherwise have been.
Good point. I often wondered why on earth Ron Howard chose to ignore the biography where Nash often uttered anti-Semitic remarks. He also ignored Nash's termination by Rand when he was arrested for exposing himself in a men's room in Santa Monica. There is so much more about Nash that he chose to ignore and whitewash.... :nono:
UnkHiram
02-25-2007, 11:37 AM
The Dixie Chicks are/were a very talented Country singing group. I have all of their CD's that were made before Natalie inserted her head up her rectum. I will never buy another of their CD's or attend one of their concerts because I am exercising my FREEDOM OF SPEECH by ignoring them. I have also strongely encouraged the country stations I listen to adopt this same philosphy. I understand their latest CD and singles off of it are extremely good, however I will never know because I will not buy them and the stations I listen to dont play them.
I sure hope the other two chicks are still pleased with Natalie's decision to exercise her "Freedom of Speech".
UnkHiram
02-25-2007, 11:39 AM
oh yea
as for their looks. The Chicks are very good looking, no need for photo doctoring. Good looking does not mean politicaly intelligent, just as politlically stupid does not mean ugly.
dPrasse
02-25-2007, 11:40 AM
Hi Unk ... I also had there CD's , before her mouth opened ...
I smashed the cd's and sent them back to the label , supporting a boycott by a local station ... that station still is Dixie Twats free ...
DesertFox
02-25-2007, 05:56 PM
You gittin' old, Unk. The Dixie Twats are nothing special in the looks dept. :D
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