View Full Version : Cross back in Wm & Mary chapel
DesertFox
03-07-2007, 07:05 PM
Administrators at the College of William & Mary, responding to months of harsh criticism from alumni, ordered the immediate return of a cross to the Williamsburg school's historic Wren Chapel yesterday.
Alumni angered by the removal of the cross in October threatened to withhold millions of dollars of donations -- including a $12 million gift.
More (http://www.washingtontimes.com/metro/20070307-120821-6281r.htm)
DesertFox
03-07-2007, 07:07 PM
This namby pamby president had no qualms in taking the cross out on his own authority, but wouldn't put it back on his own authority. Punkass bastid.
Lubbock
03-07-2007, 07:36 PM
It's my understanding that The Cross is not back in the chapel, per se. It's been put in another part of the chapel, but not where it's traditionally stood for low these many years.
The Punkass Bastid is definately a Punkass bastid.
DeclinetoState
03-07-2007, 11:42 PM
Can the cross be put back in its "traditional" position by anyone who wants to have it there?
Patrick Henry
03-08-2007, 02:59 AM
The whole thing made about as much sense as taking down the American flag (any display of) in any of our government buildings so as not to offend people that are not from America.
Here's another guy that needs to beaten like a pinata.
DoctorDoom
03-08-2007, 07:32 AM
Folks, we must be SENSITIVE, you know! After all, some Muzzie or Hindu or Buddhist or atheist might visit the Christian chapel and be offended by the sight of a Christian image. What can possibly be more important than keeping a snot-nosed, self-important liberal PoS from being offended? This is AMERICA, where the endless, obnoxious demands of one insatiable, insufferable pain in the ass must always prevail over the will of the many.
Lazarus
03-08-2007, 09:24 AM
They have returned the cross to the chapel, but instead of placing it back at its original place at the main altar, it has been placed in a glass case to one side, like some corpse on display...
The glass case is important... If they simply placed the cross in the open air, it implies that it is a living faith... By putting it in a glass case, it implies that this cross is just another ancient artifact of a dead religion on display for the viewing pleasure of the curious... It may as well be the skeleton of the Elephant Man...
If this school truly was concerned with religious freedom, they could have easily allowed the building of separate chapels for different religious faiths - Im quite certain that American Jews and Muslims would have been more than happy to dedicate funds to build such buildings, if indeed such a need existed on that campus...
But we all know what this incident was all about - It was just another attempt by the Left to bury Christianity, and reduce God to a meaningless, philosophical concept...
Wyatt_Junker
03-08-2007, 09:45 AM
It just goes to show you that lefties fear the Cross. If they didn't, this wouldn't be an issue. The Cross testifies first and foremost about repentance, a concept that a lefty would never embrace. Libs are like vampires. Show them a Cross and watch them hiss.
Lazarus
03-08-2007, 09:56 AM
:yeahthat:
buckeyepete
03-08-2007, 10:15 AM
Please excuse me for commenting on something of a religious nature, but I would like for something to be pointed out to me.
Quote in part:
The Faculty Assembly and Student Senate stood behind the president, but at least 25 alumni threatened to withhold donations to the school until the original policy was reinstated -- including one benefactor, who last week withdrew a $12 million pledge.
What/Who prompted this in the first place, and was the Faculty Assembly and Student Senate in this before or after the cross was removed.
Quote in part:
The recommendation, billed as a compromise, stipulates that the chapel "be available to house sacred objects of any religious tradition for use of worship and devotion by members of the college community
I am inclined to agree with this, being a 'Public' College receiving taxpayer monies. But, based on the history and background of the college, The Cross should have NEVER have been removed in the first place.
There some of us that sometimes seeking times to reflect on problems facing us need a quiet/peacefull place to think. (hospitals, etc). I, for one wouldn't be offended by anyones religious symbols.
Thank you.
Lazarus
03-08-2007, 12:30 PM
Its a very sad commentary on this nation's society when the oldest and most prestigeous universities here were originally established by Christians for the purpose of training pastors in Church doctrine, but have today DE-evolved into institutions bent on denouncing and eradicating the very faith that set their foundations...
The doomsday clock is ticking on the US... We exist today strictly because of the grace of God... But his patience is not limitless...
Patrick Henry
03-08-2007, 12:41 PM
Folks, we must be SENSITIVE, you know! After all, some Muzzie or Hindu or Buddhist or atheist might visit the Christian chapel and be offended by the sight of a Christian image. What can possibly be more important than keeping a snot-nosed, self-important liberal PoS from being offended? This is AMERICA, where the endless, obnoxious demands of one insatiable, insufferable pain in the ass must always prevail over the will of the many.
The idiots on the left think that religious tolerance is to embrace that which is contrary to Christianity or otherwise subject yourself to censorship in the name of religious tolerance.
Of course, that's nonsense.
Patrick Henry
03-08-2007, 12:44 PM
They have returned the cross to the chapel, but instead of placing it back at its original place at the main altar, it has been placed in a glass case to one side, like some corpse on display...
I didn't catch that part in the sound-bite... that being the case, they wouldn't have gotten my $12 million and I would've also insisted that this moron that moved it be fired or given the William Wallace treatment.
Patrick Henry
03-08-2007, 12:48 PM
Students want Wren Cross explanation (http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=54604)
<!-- end head --><!-- deck --> (http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=54604)Altering tradition calls for 'thorough accounting'
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Students and alumni from the College of William & Mary (http://www.wnd.com/redir/r.asp?http://www.wm.edu/contact/index.php) who assembled more than 17,000 names on a petition protesting the college president's arbitrary decision to remove a donated cross from the historic Wren Chapel say they are glad it's being returned. But they also want an explanation for what happened.
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Sandra Day O'Connor, under whose watch on the U.S. Supreme Court tolerance for Christian symbols in public locations eroded significantly, is chancellor, but she's declined to return WND calls seeking comment.
Lazarus
03-08-2007, 12:52 PM
I didn't catch that part in the sound-bite... that being the case, they wouldn't have gotten my $12 million and I would've also insisted that this moron that moved it be fired or given the William Wallace treatment.You're right, that didnt come from the posted sound bite... That info was revealed on Fox News yesterday evening on John Gibson's show...
Patrick Henry
03-08-2007, 12:58 PM
You're right, that didnt come from the posted sound bite... That info was revealed on Fox News yesterday evening on John Gibson's show...
If all it takes is ONE person to complain to get a religious object removed or moved, then I'm gonna complain about the stick of dynamite on the altar of the nearest mosque!
Lazarus
03-08-2007, 01:02 PM
:D
Air-Warrior
03-08-2007, 01:17 PM
Administrators at the College of William & Mary, responding to months of harsh criticism from alumni, ordered the immediate return of a cross to the Williamsburg school's historic Wren Chapel yesterday.
Alumni angered by the removal of the cross in October threatened to withhold millions of dollars of donations -- including a $12 million gift.
More (http://www.washingtontimes.com/metro/20070307-120821-6281r.htm)The decision makers at Wm & Mary are obviously whores. Whatever the money says do...morals and convictions are for hire.
If atheists were the predominant donors, does anyone believe that this cross wouldn't be on it's way to the moon (if the donor so-requested)?
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