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HomeschoolrsRUs
03-09-2007, 08:10 AM
Gingrich Had Affair During Clinton Probe (http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/G/GINGRICH_AFFAIR?SITE=7219&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2007-03-08-23-04-49)
Mar 8, 11:04 PM EST
By BEN EVANS
Associated Press Writer


WASHINGTON (AP) -- Former House Speaker Newt Gingrich acknowledged he was having an extramarital affair even as he led the charge against President Clinton over the Monica Lewinsky affair, he acknowledged in an interview with a conservative Christian group.

"The honest answer is yes," Gingrich, a potential 2008 Republican presidential candidate, said in an interview with Focus on the Family founder James Dobson to be aired Friday, according to a transcript provided to The Associated Press. "There are times that I have fallen short of my own standards. There's certainly times when I've fallen short of God's standards."

CountryGent
03-09-2007, 08:16 AM
Extramarital affairs are the norm for Washington(along with every other perversion one can think of). Newt has been there long enough to know what skeletons are in the closets of many. Coming clean with this now will work to his benefit because the Moonbats can not claim that he was "hiding" this info from the public.:thumb:

OTOH.....Waiting to see the "Customer List" to be released by the Beltway Madame soon. Putting the light on that will have the Moonbats whining I'll bet....:D

DoctorDoom
03-09-2007, 08:19 AM
Why should it hurt Gingrich? Rape and Oval Office sex didn't hurt BJ Billy.

The_Elucidator
03-09-2007, 08:24 AM
Why should it hurt Gingrich? Rape and Oval Office sex didn't hurt BJ Billy.

Well Doc it's cause he's a 'Publican and a somewhat conservative one at that. Therefore the 'Rats can beat us over the head with it!

Incident_command
03-09-2007, 08:26 AM
Newt was running?

The_Elucidator
03-09-2007, 08:30 AM
Newt was running?

I think he is but under double secret probation...

HomeschoolrsRUs
03-09-2007, 08:30 AM
Newt was running?

I think the hope was/is, that he will.

I'm curious how this juxtaposes with Rudy's "indiscretions," how will it resonate with (potential) voters.

Air-Warrior
03-09-2007, 08:39 AM
Gingrich's indiscretion(s) now make it impossible for him to take high moral ground on any issue. It will always be flung in his face by crocodile teary dems.

I've been told that many women find power to be the greatest aphrodisiac...I guess Newt had too much power for his own good.

Incident_command
03-09-2007, 08:53 AM
I think he is but under double secret probation...


:thumb:
Just my point.
I like the guy but give him little chance.

MrSanity
03-09-2007, 09:02 AM
Given that the conservative base is BEGGING for Newt to run, the center doesn't seem to mind a little bit of adultery here and there, and the left is unapologetically foaming at the mouth for more sexual immorality in today's society, I think he has a chance.

It's up for US to pardon his past if we want a prominant conservative in the race.

Beowulf
03-09-2007, 09:03 AM
Why should it hurt Gingrich? Rape and Oval Office sex didn't hurt BJ Billy.

Exactly. But unlike Bill, Newt admitted it. Bill lied to the world about it until he left office.
Newt's affair doesn't bother me. I just don't know him well enough to be sold on him just yet.

HomeschoolrsRUs
03-09-2007, 09:05 AM
Well, I've heard it said a truly wise man will surround himself, not with those he can control, but those who are wiser than he. Perhaps if Newt hooked up with somebody like Tancredo, or Fred Thompson, then conservatives might find him more palatable. Whatch'all think?

dPrasse
03-09-2007, 09:12 AM
Newt's affair doesn't bother me.

Unless he was in Barney Franks room or chasing Page Boys ;)

He's had fewer affairs than Guilliani , and is "correct" in far more of the politically important areas ...

Newt vs Rudy ? Newt in a heart beat ...

Beowulf
03-09-2007, 09:12 AM
Like I've said elsewhere, Sis, Tancredo is the only Conservative I can support for the GOP in good conscience. Problem is, he's relatively unknown so he'll need a bigger name to run with.

I only know Fred Thompson from "Law and Order." Never knew him as a politician although I heard he's an ultra conservative.

HomeschoolrsRUs
03-09-2007, 09:15 AM
I only know Fred Thompson from "Law and Order." Never knew him as a politician although I heard he's an ultra conservative.


Fred Dalton Thompson - FreeConservatives (http://www.freeconservatives.com/vb/showthread.php?p=528430#post528430)

Beowulf
03-09-2007, 09:24 AM
Gotcha! Thanks Sis!

Federal Farmer
03-09-2007, 09:35 AM
There are times that I have fallen short of my own standards. There's certainly times when I've fallen short of God's standards.
Quite unlike Clinton; for that I give him credit. Still, when Democrats used the argument that an affair has nothing to do with running the country, I said "So if when he was in China the Chinese set him up with a Chinese girl and took video, his morals would still have nothing to do with running the country?" That always got a "well, ah" response out of them. We all have clay feet, but we should hold the highest office to the highest standards; if indiscretion is known of before an election, as it was with Clinton, I'll count them out. <!-- / message --><!-- sig -->

Nutrider99
03-09-2007, 09:44 AM
The simple fact is, anyone who says that the impeachment was about sex is a liar if he doesn't believe it and a fool if he does. Monica Lewinski kept clintoon in office by enabling the media to spin his multiple felonies into the concept that "everyone lies about sex."

Except that the clintoon justice department put people in hail for lying about sex in federal court. Dr. Barbara Battalino was sentenced to six months in jail for lying under oath about oral sex. U.S. postal supervisor Diane Parker was sentenced to 13 months in prison for lying about sex with a subordinate. In fact, at the time the clintoon liars for hire were saying that lying about sex under oath was no big deal, 115 people were serving time for lying under oath in federal court.

So much for the rule of law in America. By the way, what was Scooter Libby charged with again?

Federal judge Kenneth Starr, investigating under ORDERS of a three judge panel, uncovered and documented 11 impeachable felonies. That's as many as the Colonel's herbs and spices! Clintoon was not impeached for lying about sex. He was impeached for perjury, suborning perjury and obstruction of justice stemming from a legally filed sexual harassment lawsuit. He HAD TO lie about Lewinski because it gave incontrovertible proof of what he was- a sexual predator who has sexually assaulted at least 17 women who filed complaints and an unknown number who did not. In fact, bill clintoon even groped the breasts of a flight attendant on Air Force One.

These are, quite simply the facts. Our news media USED TO report facts. Now they are all activists for the democreep party. New York voted for hillary clintoon despite the fact that she was a criminal. Subsequently, the Twin Towers were attacked. Coincidence? Maybe. Maybe God still does punish evil and stupidity. Maybe complacency in the face of evil is the greater evil.

MrSanity
03-09-2007, 09:48 AM
Quote:
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Quite unlike Clinton; for that I give him credit. Still, when Democrats used the argument that an affair has nothing to do with running the country, I said "So if when he was in China the Chinese set him up with a Chinese girl and took video, his morals would still have nothing to do with running the country?" That always got a "well, ah" response out of them. We all have clay feet, but we should hold the highest office to the highest standards; if indiscretion is known of before an election, as it was with Clinton, I'll count them out.<!-- / message --><!-- sig -->He's a man of great humility, even at rock bottom.

Patriot Heart
03-09-2007, 09:49 AM
Wait a sec, it's hard to keep all these politicos affairs straight..........was this the woman he was screwing around with while his wife was dying of cancer, or was this a different one? Just wondering.

Nutrider99
03-09-2007, 09:53 AM
Still, when Democrats used the argument that an affair has nothing to do with running the country, I said "So if when he was in China the Chinese set him up with a Chinese girl and took video, his morals would still have nothing to do with running the country?" <!-- / message --><!-- sig -->
How about this scenario? Israel has a spy in the US government who learns of the Lewinski affair and blackmails clintoon into letting him go. This alllegedly actually happened.

http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/blackmail.html

It was well known that there was an Israeli spy inside the Clinton White House (http://www.rense.com/general18/esp.htm). But Clinton ordered the FBI to cease searching for the mole, code-named "Mega". It is now known that "Mega" was not just Mossad spy but top Mossad agent in America (http://www.larouchepub.com/other/2001/2833mega_spy.html). The cancellation of the hunt for "Mega" occurred at the same time Clinton warned Monica Lewinsky that their phone conversations were being recorded. This strongly suggests that Clinton was "persuaded" to call off the FBI's hunt for "Mega" with the threat of a recorded phone sex session being made public.

http://www.natall.com/free-speech/fs993c.html

...Clinton knew that his steamy telephone-sex sessions with his Jewish bimbo/intern Monica Lewinsky were being tapped by the Mossad. We know that Clinton knew, because he told Monica about it after an oral-sex session in the Oval Office, and she told Special Prosecutor Ken Starr, in sworn testimony, what Clinton had told her. Clinton knew, because the FBI's counter-espionage people knew and had warned him.

Federal Farmer
03-09-2007, 09:55 AM
He's a man of great humility, even at rock bottom.
Agreed, and highly intelligent as well.

Federal Farmer
03-09-2007, 09:59 AM
How about this scenario? Israel has a spy in the US government who learns of the Lewinski affair and blackmails clintoon into letting him go. This alllegedly actually happened.

http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/blackmail.html

It was well known that there was an Israeli spy inside the Clinton White House (http://www.rense.com/general18/esp.htm). But Clinton ordered the FBI to cease searching for the mole, code-named "Mega". It is now known that "Mega" was not just Mossad spy but top Mossad agent in America (http://www.larouchepub.com/other/2001/2833mega_spy.html). The cancellation of the hunt for "Mega" occurred at the same time Clinton warned Monica Lewinsky that their phone conversations were being recorded. This strongly suggests that Clinton was "persuaded" to call off the FBI's hunt for "Mega" with the threat of a recorded phone sex session being made public.

http://www.natall.com/free-speech/fs993c.html

...Clinton knew that his steamy telephone-sex sessions with his Jewish bimbo/intern Monica Lewinsky were being tapped by the Mossad. We know that Clinton knew, because he told Monica about it after an oral-sex session in the Oval Office, and she told Special Prosecutor Ken Starr, in sworn testimony, what Clinton had told her. Clinton knew, because the FBI's counter-espionage people knew and had warned him.
I expect the scenarios concerning blackmailing Clinton are legion. I mean, Monica at the Pentagon?

dPrasse
03-09-2007, 10:11 AM
If Fred Thompson runs , it makes Newt a non-issue :D

DesertFox
03-09-2007, 11:12 AM
Here's the dif: Blowjob Billy was in office and lied about his extramarital sex. Newt was a private citizen and he's being honest about his extramarital sex.

That translates into: The MSM did its best to let Billy off and will do its best to get Gingrich.

CountryGent
03-09-2007, 11:16 AM
The MSM did its best to let Billy off and will do its best to get Gingrich.True. But only the Moonbats pay any attention nowadays to the MSM. Thinking folks have other more reliable News sources.....:thumb:

Pennville_Bill
03-09-2007, 01:57 PM
Let's see.........

Newt isn't isn't running, but he's jettisoning his dirty laundry now so if he does decide this fall to run, his affairs will be old news. Take the heat early so he can move on later....... Looks like a pretty shrewd political maneuver to me.......... Just my http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v481/Pennville_Bill/Other%20Stuff/Smilies/smiley2cents.gif

Maggie_T
03-09-2007, 02:15 PM
Ok. I don't have the time to read all this thread, so I don't know if this has already been mentioned.

I would like to remind everybody that Blow Job Bill was NOT impeached because of this dalliance with a fat intern, but BECAUSE HE PERJURED HIMSELF. Remeber 'perjury'? As in Lying under oath? Which, incidentally also got him disbarred.

But leave it to the drive-by media to twist things into what they are not. :flame:

Federal Farmer
03-09-2007, 03:17 PM
Ok. I don't have the time to read all this thread, so I don't know if this has already been mentioned.

I would like to remind everybody that Blow Job Bill was NOT impeached because of this dalliance with a fat intern, but BECAUSE HE PERJURED HIMSELF. Remeber 'perjury'? As in Lying under oath? Which, incidentally also got him disbarred.

But leave it to the drive-by media to twist things into what they are not. :flame:
I think everyone here understands that. The subject of the thread has nothing to do with impeachment but politicians and sexual affairs and whether that affects anyone's thinking about their fitness to POTUS.

Jester21
03-09-2007, 10:58 PM
Let's see.........

Newt isn't isn't running, but he's jettisoning his dirty laundry now so if he does decide this fall to run, his affairs will be old news. Take the heat early so he can move on later....... Looks like a pretty shrewd political maneuver to me.......... Just my http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v481/Pennville_Bill/Other%20Stuff/Smilies/smiley2cents.gif
Exactly. Everybody knew Gingrich had an affair years ago, when he resigned. But he knew if he decided to run it would be brought up again, so he got it out of the way now.

It's not going to hurt him at all, most of the other contenders are no better.

Large_Al
03-10-2007, 08:17 AM
And the difference is Newt didn't lie before a grand jury and loose his Law License because of it. It wasn't that Clinton had an affair it was that he lied!!

Maggie_T
03-10-2007, 03:56 PM
Why should Newt's indiscretions hurt him? Because the "everybody does it" garbage does not apply to conservatives. Only to sexually incontinent perjurers.

And I have to agree with Jester. It was clever of Newt to get it out of the way.

Naturalized-Texan
03-10-2007, 04:21 PM
Gingrich Had Affair During Clinton Probe - Will This Hurt His Presidential Chances?
As Rush said, that's old news. I had forgotten about it, but I knew it at the time. As far as I'm concerned, that's water under the bridge and will have no effect on whether I vote for him or not in the primaries.

Timberwolf
03-10-2007, 04:55 PM
I heard Gingrinch on Focus on the Family the other day. Dobson asked him some rather pointed questions about his affair and that he's been divorced multiple times. I was actually surprised...we'd NEVER hear of such things happening to Hitlery or Osama from the DBM.

It was actually quite refreshing to hear such things discussed. Newt came clean, admitted and owned up to his affairs and, as far as I'm concerned, that's the end of it.

And before any of our resident libs bust my butt about it, YES, it would've been the same had the Zipper owned up to HIS affairs.

Maggie_T
03-10-2007, 05:00 PM
Yep. It would have spared Ol' Blow Job a lot of grief.

OTOH, his lies earned him an impeachment and being disbarred from the practice of law. :evilgrin:

nene
03-10-2007, 05:08 PM
Yep. It would have spared Ol' Blow Job a lot of grief.

OTOH, his lies earned him an impeachment and being disbarred from the practice of law. :evilgrin:I doubt he cares, no shame in his genetic makeup. Besides, liberals pay him millions to speak. The dude is rich.

Maggie_T
03-10-2007, 07:02 PM
Fools and their money are soon parted.

Etaoin
03-10-2007, 07:09 PM
Newt was running?

NEWT IS RUNNING, GIVEN THE SUPPORT!

MrSanity
03-11-2007, 09:01 AM
"If everybody in this town connected with politics had to leave town because of chasing women and drinking, you would have no government."

- Barry Goldwater