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HomeschoolrsRUs
03-09-2007, 09:14 AM
Thought it might be interesting to learn a bit more about former Senator Thompson:
THOMPSON, Fred Dalton - Biographical Information (http://bioguide.congress.gov/scripts/biodisplay.pl?index=T000457)
Fred Dalton Thompson - Biography (http://imdb.com/name/nm0000669/bio)
Worked as a shoe salesman, truck driver, and even a factory worker prior to becoming a lawyer.
Fred Thompson on the Issues (http://www.ontheissues.org/Senate/Fred_Thompson.htm#Foreign_Policy)
What If The Right Said Fred? (http://www.elephantbiz.com/2007/03/what_if_the_right_said_fred.html)
dPrasse
03-09-2007, 09:23 AM
Truck driver ... he gets my vote :D
Beowulf
03-09-2007, 09:24 AM
Thank you, Sis. I knew Fred only from "Law and Order" but I just found another viable Conservative I could support after viewing his voting record.....IF he ran.
dPrasse
03-09-2007, 09:29 AM
Does he have any exploratory group or website set up ?
How does one get on a "bandwagon for Fred ?
HomeschoolrsRUs
03-09-2007, 09:31 AM
How does one get on a "bandwagon for Fred ?
Draft Fred Thompson - Index (http://draftfredthompson.com/) maybe?
dPrasse
03-09-2007, 09:37 AM
That works!
TY !
dPrasse
03-09-2007, 09:43 AM
Homes suggested Fred For President BB ...
http://draftfredthompson.com/index.php
And another "unofficial" Draft Fred site....
http://fred08.com/
dPrasse
03-09-2007, 09:48 AM
"...Amid some GOP dissatisfaction that the current field is not conservative enough, Fox News has learned Hollywood actor and former U.S. Senator Fred Thompson of Tennessee is seriously considering a run."
Fox News 3/2/07
This is a guy that I could fight for , not just vote for ..
The_Elucidator
03-09-2007, 09:59 AM
He sees a dearth of up and comers out in the statehouses, and he sees a dearth of ideas. If nothing else, I think he wants to get conservatives and the GOP back on track."
It's this kind of crap right here that really make me angry! The guy is very charismatic, very intelligent and VERY CONSERVATIVE! He has all the credentials to make a fantastic POTUS but he won't do it! He could make some real noise and much needed change in the direction of the party...but will he do it? DO IT FRED! DO IT!!! The conservative base has your back!
The_Elucidator
03-09-2007, 10:03 AM
I'm making this one a sticky!
EveningStar
03-09-2007, 10:12 AM
Wikipedia article (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fred_Dalton_Thompson)
dPrasse
03-09-2007, 10:19 AM
From one of the posts ...
I was just listening to Chris Wallace on Mike Gallagher's radio show. He said his guest this Sunday on Fox New Sunday was going to be Fred Thompson and he was going to have a Big Announcement.
http://draftfredthompson.com/index.php?topic=146.0
Hope it is GREAT news !!
dPrasse
03-09-2007, 10:22 AM
Well , this shows the kind of Judge he'd support ..
In addition, Thompson was named by President Bush as an informal advisor to Supreme Court Chief Justice nominee John Roberts, moving his nomination through the Senate.http://fred08.com/aboutfred.html
dPrasse
03-09-2007, 10:27 AM
Here is Fred on the Issues ....
http://www.ontheissues.org/Senate/Fred_Thompson.htm
Some of his votes might be nit-pickable (even Reagan wasn't 100% ), but , OVERALL , I'd say he is the best chance we have ...
the others pale in comparison ...
DesertFox
03-09-2007, 11:08 AM
Fred in 08!
The_Elucidator
03-09-2007, 12:35 PM
From one of the posts ...
I was just listening to Chris Wallace on Mike Gallagher's radio show. He said his guest this Sunday on Fox New Sunday was going to be Fred Thompson and he was going to have a Big Announcement
http://draftfredthompson.com/index.php?topic=146.0
Hope it is GREAT news !!
Please, Please, Please, Please, Please oh Please let it be!!!
dPrasse
03-09-2007, 12:51 PM
Things look good ....
Here's how the Free Republic poll shows Fred doing against Rudy:
Fred Thompson 63.1% 1,950
Rudy Giuliani 21.0% 648
Write-in 4.6% 141
Undecided 4.2% 130
Third party 4.1% 128
Stay home 2.5% 78
Leave blank 0.5% 16
100.0%
The_Elucidator
03-09-2007, 12:59 PM
I expect Zogby or Rasmussen to conduct a poll early next week if this comes to fruition; on a head to head with rest of the pub and rat field. This is something to get really excited 'bout.
Maggie_T
03-09-2007, 01:20 PM
I hate to be a wet blanket, but I bet that because Thompson (for whom I'd vote in a heartbeat) is so popular, the jokers at the GOP won't give him the candidacy.
I bet the weenies are afraid that "he will not win."
Any bets?
HomeschoolrsRUs
03-09-2007, 01:51 PM
Maggie,
Perhaps he'll be the dark horse coming up from the back of the pack to over take the "big three" and steal the show? One can only pray that SOMEBODY with conservative credentials will at least try. :smirky:
USPatriot8320
03-09-2007, 01:54 PM
Look at what happened in '92. Clinton came out of no where... I would vote for a fiscal conservative over socially liberal one any day... I've heard good things about Thompson, which I'm surprised. No terrible quotes, no nothing in this guys closet so to speak.
Republican_Legion
03-09-2007, 01:58 PM
the jokers at the GOP won't give him the candidacy.
I bet the weenies are afraid that "he will not win."
Any bets?
1. I agree.
2. Yeah, it will be only a matter of time when one of the weenies says 'He is un electable' as their only way of trying to kill the nomination of a conservative.
Maggie_T
03-09-2007, 03:56 PM
Maggie,
Perhaps he'll be the dark horse coming up from the back of the pack to over take the "big three" and steal the show? One can only pray that SOMEBODY with conservative credentials will at least try. :smirky:
I'm praying, little Sis. I'm praying.
Maggie_T
03-09-2007, 03:58 PM
I would vote for a fiscal conservative over socially liberal one any day...
That makes two of us, Patriot. That's why I won't vote for Guiliani or McCain.
Etaoin
03-09-2007, 04:25 PM
That makes two of us, Patriot. That's why I won't vote for Guiliani or McCain.
Atta girl Maggie! Last monday I was brunching with a communist friend with whom I frequently brunch and discuss politics. His parents were hard core and he doesn't admit it (he says he is a liberal), but he is a real communist! And when I turned my nose up at all the GOP candidates, he asked me if there was anyone that I could support I said the only one who came to mind was Thompson! I am ecstatic that he is throwing his hat into the ring! He is someone I can actively support! It would be delightful not to hold my nose again as I vote for what the GOP offers!
Maggie_T
03-09-2007, 04:46 PM
1. I agree.
2. Yeah, it will be only a matter of time when one of the weenies says 'He is un electable' as their only way of trying to kill the nomination of a conservative.
I know, RL. And I intend to give them a good piece of my mind if/when they do that. :flame:
Longhorn_Platinum
03-09-2007, 04:55 PM
Maggie_T:
I bet the weenies are afraid that "he will not win."
Any bets?
http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l294/Longhorn_Platinum/semi-serious.gif The smart money says that EveningStar will say that.
Lubbock
03-09-2007, 05:00 PM
Fred Thompson is very electable.
Does anyone remeber his Tennessee run for the Senate? I do.
If that bunch of Republicans inside the Beltway remembers their history like I do, Fred Dalton Thompson should be enough to scare the hell out of them.
Maggie_T
03-09-2007, 05:01 PM
Atta girl Maggie! Last monday I was brunching with a communist friend with whom I frequently brunch and discuss politics. His parents were hard core and he doesn't admit it (he says he is a liberal), but he is a real communist! And when I turned my nose up at all the GOP candidates, he asked me if there was anyone that I could support I said the only one who came to mind was Thompson! I am ecstatic that he is throwing his hat into the ring! He is someone I can actively support! It would be delightful not to hold my nose again as I vote for what the GOP offers!
I hear, you Etaoin. I am done with wasting my vote on liberal republicans. Done, I tell you. I violently resent being treated like a kid who needs to be scared into doing what adults want.
And I am praying that some smug 'pub elected official come to me and tell me that if I don't vote for Guiliani or McCain, I'll put Hillary in the WH. I am praying for that to happen. :evilgrin: And if it does, boy, will I throw them a party!
If Hillary - or any other demunist, for that matter - takes the WH hostage it will be because effete, wine-and-cheese republicans have become more interested in playing footsie with wine-and-cheese democrats than in upholding Reagan's principles, and doing what conservative voters put them in power to do.
Now, the effete, wine-and-cheese republicans have become complacent and think that all they have to do to win is scare their constituencies with the democrat bogey man.
Sorry. No more. That tactic has become too old and very offensive. As far as I'm concerned, they'll have to do better than that.
And if the best the GOP can do is give me liberal republicans like Giuliani or McCain to vote for, I'm voting for the Constitution Party.
And if that puts Hillary in the WH, so be it. Maybe that's what we need to get Joe Six-Pack out of his coma, and pay attention to what's happening in the country. Maybe that will finally spark the much-needed, too-often-postponed revolution that Jefferson (I think) said was so necessary to keep the tree of freedom and democracy alive.
HomeschoolrsRUs
03-09-2007, 05:01 PM
Just saw a blurb -- Thompson is supposed to be appearing on FOX sometime. Didn't see if it was tonight, or this weekend, just saw his pick with the headline Fred Thompson to appear on FOX.
Republican_Legion
03-09-2007, 05:19 PM
Just saw a blurb -- Thompson is supposed to be appearing on FOX sometime. Didn't see if it was tonight, or this weekend, just saw his pick with the headline Fred Thompson to appear on FOX.
I heard it was on sunday. I think, cant be sure though.
Naturalized-Texan
03-09-2007, 05:31 PM
Fred in 08!
He'd certainly get my vote.
Naturalized-Texan
03-09-2007, 05:37 PM
I hate to be a wet blanket, but I bet that because Thompson (for whom I'd vote in a heartbeat) is so popular, the jokers at the GOP won't give him the candidacy.
I bet the weenies are afraid that "he will not win."
Any bets?
In 2000, the Republican establishment wanted McCain in the worst way. Then along came George W. Bush, the anti-establishment candidate, and grassroots conservatives and religious conservatives rose up and bucked the establishment. The same thing could happen in 2008 with Thompson.
EveningStar
03-09-2007, 06:06 PM
http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l294/Longhorn_Platinum/semi-serious.gif The smart money says that EveningStar will say that.
You'll lose this particular bet, LP. I think Fred is a dark horse with potential.
Longhorn_Platinum
03-09-2007, 06:11 PM
:sulk: Who are you, & what have you done with EveningStar?
Republican_Legion
03-09-2007, 06:50 PM
Of all the candidates I think Fred has the best personality.
He's a good o'l Tennese guy who doesnt have the baggage of 'Rudy McRomney' and has more name recognition than Tancredo and Hunter.
He will be the candidate we least expected a year ago to jump in the race. I think Newt or Romney could be his running mate. Romney as a VP might help get NewHampshire back in GOP hands. Newt would be a better leader if elected vice president but Romney is probally better for winning NH.
Etaoin
03-09-2007, 08:26 PM
Of all the candidates I think Fred has the best personality.
He's a good o'l Tennese guy who doesnt have the baggage of 'Rudy McRomney' and has more name recognition than Tancredo and Hunter.
He will be the candidate we least expected a year ago to jump in the race. I think Newt or Romney could be his running mate. Romney as a VP might help get NewHampshire back in GOP hands. Newt would be a better leader if elected vice president but Romney is probally better for winning NH.
THAT MAY BE, BUT HOW MANY ELECTORAL VOTES HAS NH
Not to belittle NH, but we do need to energize the Conservatives without denigrating any pro conservative.
A RISING TIDE RAISES ALL BOATS! LET'S FLOOD THE BASTARDS!!!
TSawyer2112
03-09-2007, 10:04 PM
I've been growing weary of getting Giulianni (sp) shoved down my throat. This gives me hope for '08.
Maggie_T
03-10-2007, 10:30 AM
THAT MAY BE, BUT HOW MANY ELECTORAL VOTES HAS NH
Not to belittle NH, but we do need to energize the Conservatives without denigrating any pro conservative.
A RISING TIDE RAISES ALL BOATS! LET'S FLOOD THE BASTARDS!!!
Yessssss! Etaoin, you're a guy after my own heart. :thumb:
Maggie_T
03-10-2007, 10:31 AM
In 2000, the Republican establishment wanted McCain in the worst way. Then along came George W. Bush, the anti-establishment candidate, and grassroots conservatives and religious conservatives rose up and bucked the establishment. The same thing could happen in 2008 with Thompson.
It certainly could, N-T. Al it would take is the Brahmins in the GOP to make that possible.
Naturalized-Texan
03-10-2007, 01:17 PM
It certainly could, N-T. Al it would take is the Brahmins in the GOP to make that possible.
I think that those Brahmans (i.e., RINOs) have already made it possible for a principled conservative like Fred Thompson to be nominated.
Maggie_T
03-10-2007, 04:06 PM
Oh, agreed. But that's not the point. The point is they made it possible by shooting themselves in the foot.
Problem is, they never acknowledged they shot themselves in the foot. They have their heads so far up their butts that they blame their failure on voters for not voting for them, as opposed to why they didn't vote for them. The reason why voters gave them the thumbs down didn't even register!
I don't know about you, but such blind, arrogant buggers do NOT inspire me with any confidence whatsoever.
dPrasse
03-10-2007, 09:55 PM
I heard it was on sunday. I think, cant be sure though.
Fox News Sunday with Chris Wallace ... can't wait !!
dPrasse
03-10-2007, 10:01 PM
Problem is, they never acknowledged they shot themselves in the foot. They have their heads so far up their butts that they blame their failure on voters for not voting for them, as opposed to why they didn't vote for them. The reason why voters gave them the thumbs down didn't even register!
Sounds EXACTLY the same as Algore backers ...
The hypocrisy is sick ... Albore's supporters just won't face the truth why he lost, but, it is somebody elses fault when a (R) loses ...:listen:
I don't know about you, but such blind, arrogant buggers do NOT inspire me with any confidence whatsoever.
Found a newspaper interview of me just after I was elected to the local County Board back in '86 ... I said I wasn't a Party man ... still holds true 20 yrs later ... I've seen how both parties operate "behind the scenes" and would never trust either party ...
Timberwolf
03-10-2007, 11:16 PM
Ya know sumthin'? The last actor we elected turned out to be a pretty good choice.
Put Gingrich on the ticket and I think you'd have a great ticket...then, in 8 years put Tancredo on the ticket as Gingrich's VP...
Whoa...just got goosebumps....LOL
dPrasse
03-11-2007, 07:30 AM
He is my man ...
He wants to see what doors open ...
I plan on doing my part to hold open a door for this man ...
I'm tired of the arguement if it is this (R) or that (R) I'll hold my nose and vote for them over Hitlery or Osama obama ...
This election I want to vote FOR someone ...
Run Fred Run
dPrasse
03-11-2007, 07:51 AM
Here is another site with his issues ....
http://www.issues2000.org/Senate/Fred_Thompson_SenateMatch.htm
I surely don't agree with his support of the McCain /Feingold bill ...
I'm not sure why he voted against allowing the self employed getting full deductability on health insurance costs ...
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a300/tescosuicide/ALa2/ALa3/thompson_mug.jpg
Lubbock
03-11-2007, 08:34 AM
On the off-chance that Thompson throws his hat in the ring, and on the maybe-no-so-far-off chance that he gets the nomination provided he throws his hat in the ring, he better stay as far away from Gingrich as possible.
I like Newt. I like him a lot. I think he's one of the better conservative thinkers to come along in the last hundred years. He's articulate and conscise when he speaks; he has a great sense of humor; he has a lot of fine leadership qualities.
But Thompson won't need Newt on the ticket [if Thompson gets that far]. He can save Newt for a Cabinet Position.
Newt has waaaaaaay to much personal baggage. In case anyone has forgotten, this last "wronged wife" got just what she asked for when she was screwing around with Newt when he was married to his first wife.
And this present wife should not be surprised if she finds Newt screwing around on her. Like Clinton, Newt can't help himself.
Newt is apparently a serial philanderer. Men [and women, too] like him don't quit until they just flat get to old to screw around.
Provided Thompson gets the nomination, we'll need the campaign focused on the issues, not Newt's serial philandering --and in case anyone thinks the Democrats won't hammer Newt into the ground, you aren't paying attention.
Provided Thompson gets the nomination, he better pick someone who will help him focus the nation on the issues, not someone who will have to be constantly defending and explaining himself.
You know damned-site well that the Democrats DO NOT want the campaign focused on the issues.
HomeschoolrsRUs
03-11-2007, 08:37 AM
If he does jump in, I'm hoping he would pick Tancredo.
dPrasse
03-11-2007, 08:56 AM
Agree , Lubbock ... Newt is un-electable in a General election ....
Lets get Thompson thru the door and into the Race before we get a VP chosen ...
HomeschoolrsRUs
03-11-2007, 09:44 AM
Looks like FOX News is giving all the free publicity Senator Thompson could ever hope for, :smirky: . I missed the early edition (of FOX News Sunday with Chris Wallace), but they are touting the 6pm edition, and showing clips of his (Thompson's) appearance looks like every 15-30 mins!
Thompson said he won't rule it out, he's waiting to see how things are playing out. Somehow "we" (conservatives) need to get the message to him that if he'll run, they we will vote! http://www.freeconservatives.com/vb/images/icons/icon7.gif
dPrasse
03-11-2007, 10:14 AM
The board you linked to the other day http://draftfredthompson.com/index.php is really picking up steam .
It is so exciting and invigorating to read SUPPORT FOR a person and not post after post of vote against the (D) !
EveningStar
03-11-2007, 10:54 AM
Thompson Considers 2008 Run (http://www.lasvegassun.com/sunbin/stories/bw-elect/2007/mar/11/031101641.html)
Transcript: Former Sen. Fred Thompson on 'FOX News Sunday' (http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,258222,00.html)
Maggie_T
03-11-2007, 10:58 AM
Ya know sumthin'? The last actor we elected turned out to be a pretty good choice.
Abso-bloody-lutely! :claps: Thompson is my man.
EveningStar
03-11-2007, 11:01 AM
Ya know sumthin'? The last actor we elected turned out to be a pretty good choice.
Thompson was a prominent attorney and political operative long before he became an actor. From the Wikipedia article (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fred_Dalton_Thompson):
Background
Born in Sheffield (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sheffield%2C_Alabama), Alabama (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alabama), Thompson grew up attending the public schools (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_school) in Lawrenceburg, Tennessee (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lawrenceburg%2C_Tennessee). He first attended the University of North Alabama (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/University_of_North_Alabama) and then Memphis State University (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/University_of_Memphis) where he earned an undergraduate degree in philosophy (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philosophy) and political science (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_science) in 1964 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1964). He received a J.D. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Juris_Doctor) degree from Vanderbilt University Law School (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vanderbilt_University_Law_School) in 1967 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1967). He was admitted to the Tennessee bar (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bar_%28law%29) in 1967 and commenced the practice of law, serving as an assistant U.S. attorney (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Attorney) from 1969 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1969)–1972 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1972). He was the campaign manager for Senator Howard Baker (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Howard_Baker)'s successful re-election campaign in 1972, which led to a close personal friendship with Baker, and he served as co-chief counsel to the Senate Watergate Committee (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Senate_Watergate_Committee) in its investigation of the Watergate scandal (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Watergate_scandal), (1973 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1973)–1974 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1974)). He was responsible for Baker's asking one of the questions that is said to have led directly to the downfall of President (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/President_of_the_United_States) Richard Nixon (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Nixon)—"What did the President know, and when did he know it?" Also, Thompson's voice has become immortalized in recordings of the Watergate proceedings, asking the key question, "Mr. Butterfield (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexander_Butterfield), were you aware of the existence of any listening devices in the Oval Office (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oval_Office) of the President?"
In 1977 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1977), Thompson took on a Tennessee Parole Board case that ultimately toppled Tennessee Governor (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Governor_of_Tennessee) Ray Blanton (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ray_Blanton) from power on charges of selling pardons (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pardon). The scandal became the subject of a book and a movie titled Marie (1985 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1985)) in which Thompson played himself, supposedly because the producers were unable to find a professional actor who could play him plausibly. This film launched his acting career. Thompson would go on to appear as racist demagogue "Dr. Knox Pooley" in a story arc (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Story_arc) of the TV series Wiseguy (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wiseguy) (1988 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1988)) and in numerous feature films (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Feature_film), including No Way Out (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_Way_Out) (1987 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1987)), The Hunt for Red October (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Hunt_for_Red_October) (1990 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1990)), Cape Fear (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cape_Fear_%281991_movie%29) (1991 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1991)), and In the Line of Fire (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/In_the_Line_of_Fire) (1993 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1993)).
Senate career
On November 8 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/November_8), 1994 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1994), Thompson was elected to the United States Senate to fill the unexpired portion of the term ending January 3 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/January_3), 1997 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1997), left vacant by the resignation of Al Gore (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al_Gore), defeating six-term Democratic (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democratic_Party_%28United_States%29) U.S. Representative (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_House_of_Representatives) Jim Cooper (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Cooper) in a landslide which represented the most votes anyone had ever received for a statewide office in Tennessee history up to that point...
Lubbock
03-11-2007, 12:18 PM
" . . . Thompson was elected to the United States Senate to fill the unexpired portion of the term ending January 3 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/January_3), 1997 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1997), left vacant by the resignation of Al Gore (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al_Gore), defeating six-term Democratic (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democratic_Party_%28United_States%29) U.S. Representative (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_House_of_Representatives) Jim Cooper (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Cooper) in a landslide which represented the most votes anyone had ever received for a statewide office in Tennessee history up to that point... . . . "
Game! Set!! Match!!!
The RNC Big-Shots better start today, at this moment in time, pulling their heads out of their hindquarters.
The_Elucidator
03-11-2007, 12:24 PM
" . . . Thompson was elected to the United States Senate to fill the unexpired portion of the term ending January 3 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/January_3), 1997 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1997), left vacant by the resignation of Al Gore (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al_Gore), defeating six-term Democratic (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democratic_Party_%28United_States%29) U.S. Representative (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_House_of_Representatives) Jim Cooper (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Cooper) in a landslide which represented the most votes anyone had ever received for a statewide office in Tennessee history up to that point... . . . "
Game! Set!! Match!!!
The RNC Big-Shots better start today, at this moment in time, pulling their heads out of their hindquarters.
Mel Martinez...Are you kidding me? The RNC is not one bit serious about nominating a conservative candidate...book it!
dPrasse
03-11-2007, 12:30 PM
Well , then , I hope the RNC is ready to take the blame if a Socialist wins the WH ... I sure won't take any blame ...
altekruge
03-11-2007, 12:32 PM
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Lubbock
03-11-2007, 12:32 PM
" . . . The RNC is not one bit serious about nominating a conservative candidate...book it! . . . "
You know what? With a concerted effort, we can make them pay attention. Is anybody up for the fight?
Lubbock
03-11-2007, 12:37 PM
Hey, altekruge! How's that for thievery on the Lord's Day?
Like my new avatar?
dPrasse
03-11-2007, 12:41 PM
" . . . The RNC is not one bit serious about nominating a conservative candidate...book it! . . . "
You know what? With a concerted effort, we can make them pay attention. Is anybody up for the fight?
Well , for the first time since Reagan , I see a man I'd scrap for :D
( I did get into a minor scuffle on a school bus in 5th grade supporting Nixon ... many moons ago :lol: )
dPrasse
03-11-2007, 12:43 PM
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http://thepatriotexchange.com/fredpres2.jpg
Is that your artwork ??
Please post it on the draft fred site !!
http://draftfredthompson.com/index.php
Naturalized-Texan
03-11-2007, 01:25 PM
Mel Martinez...Are you kidding me? The RNC is not one bit serious about nominating a conservative candidate...book it!
In 2000 the RNC desperately wanted McCain to be the nominee, but grassroots and religious conservatives rose up to nominate George W. Bush, the anti-establishment candidate. It could happen again in 2008.
Lubbock
03-11-2007, 01:40 PM
It can happen if we make it happen . . . like in 2000.
It's a sure fact that there isn't a soul here at this site who has had much good to say about any of the announced candidates at this point.
I once said that I thought Rudy would be strong on fighting terrorists, and nearly got my head taken off for it --I didn't say I would vote for him, just that when it came to terrorism, Rudy has skin in the game; I said that McCain would be the cause of me sitting '08 out and just not voting period, and a lot of folks agreed that McCain would cause them to sit it out or vote 3rd Party; I don't have much of an opinion on Romney, but a lot of folks object to his Mormon faith --some of us think that's silly, some of us are adamant that a Mormon being elected to the White House is tantamount to electing Bin Laden.
That's the Top Tier, and ain't nobody happy with them
Looks like Thompson is the man that everybody could get behind.
So . . . let's get behind him.
Mel Martinez is a boil on we Conservative's collective butt. What say we take him down?
dPrasse
03-11-2007, 01:46 PM
....
It's a sure fact that there isn't a soul here at this site who has had much good to say about any of the announced candidates at this point. ...
We all know what we DON'T like he he he !
Looks like Thompson is the man that everybody could get behind.
So . . . let's get behind him.
So far so good ... :D
Mel Martinez is a boil on we Conservative's collective butt. What say we take him down?
Laser surgery ??
altekruge
03-11-2007, 02:12 PM
I have a number of these posters and bumper stickers of various types, perhaps I can post, so any can access them.
dPrasse
03-11-2007, 02:15 PM
Awesome work !
They are voting on artwork for a draft fred sticker , and none of them are overwhelming favorites ...
That is your site , then ?
Very nice work !
Lubbock
03-11-2007, 02:15 PM
Laser surgery?
How about a load of reduced recoil, double-ought-buckshot . . . just to lance the boil.
[Please. Don't anybody take that as advocating violence. You know better. I'm just looking for a way to relieve the pain of having to walk around with this Martinez-boil on my hind-parts.]
dPrasse
03-11-2007, 02:19 PM
Only humorless libs would think you are serious ...
dPrasse
03-11-2007, 02:28 PM
Someone just mentioned JC Watts as a VP ... that;d be great !
Maggie_T
03-11-2007, 02:28 PM
Well , then , I hope the RNC is ready to take the blame if a Socialist wins the WH ... I sure won't take any blame ...
Three cheers for dPrasse! Hip hip Hurrah! Hip hip Hurrah! Hip hip Hurrah!
VERY well said, my friend. I second that.
If I don't vote 'pub in 2008, don't anyone come bleating to me that I put Hillary in the WH. You do that, I'll give you an earful that will diminish anything Ann Coulter ever said to liberals.
If a demunist - any demunist - takes the WH hostage, it will be entirely the fault of jello-spined, complacent, wine-&-cheese 'pub Brahmins, who think they can suck up to dems and their minions in the press, while they turn a blind eye and a deaf ear to the clamor of their own constituency, and then, when they lose, they can come and say 'Uhh, look what you did You put Hillary in the WH'.
I won't put a liberal in the WH.. They will.
Period. End of discussion.
Thank you, dPrasse. That was most inspiring.:biggrin:
dPrasse
03-11-2007, 02:34 PM
http://www.petitiononline.com/FDT_08/petition.html
Sign the Petition ...I'm #14 ...
The_Elucidator
03-11-2007, 02:41 PM
http://www.petitiononline.com/FDT_08/petition.html
Sign the Petition ...I'm #14 ...
Done...
Lubbock
03-11-2007, 02:42 PM
I was #17.
Longhorn_Platinum
03-11-2007, 03:07 PM
:moo: A special thread for Texans. (http://draftfredthompson.com/index.php?topic=300.0)
:moo: For the rest of y'all, there are other fora dedicated to other regions.
HomeschoolrsRUs
03-11-2007, 03:18 PM
Hot Air has two good video clips from the FOX News Sunday show, as well as some good commentary (prior to the clips).
Hot Air » Blog Archive » Video: Fred Thompson giving “serious consideration” to running (http://hotair.com/archives/2007/03/11/video-fred-thompson-giving-serious-consideration-to-running/)
Maggie_T
03-11-2007, 04:30 PM
Signed petition. #119.
LiberalHunter
03-11-2007, 04:31 PM
We want Fred......We want Fred..... We want Fred
Naturalized-Texan
03-11-2007, 04:47 PM
I signed it. #?
pRIMrose
03-12-2007, 07:39 AM
Ya know sumthin'? The last actor we elected turned out to be a pretty good choice.
Put Gingrich on the ticket and I think you'd have a great ticket...then, in 8 years put Tancredo on the ticket as Gingrich's VP...
Whoa...just got goosebumps....LOL
:claps::worshippy:
Just when I thought there was no hope. :thumb:
Longhorn_Platinum
03-12-2007, 07:43 AM
:wave: Hey, pRIMrose. Long time no see. Stick around for awhile.
Patriot Heart
03-12-2007, 08:02 AM
I signed. #1358
Peachdiane
03-12-2007, 08:05 AM
Signed... #1362
HomeschoolrsRUs
03-12-2007, 08:07 AM
Signed http://www.freeconservatives.com/vb/images/icons/icon7.gif
Lazarus
03-12-2007, 08:09 AM
In 2000 the RNC desperately wanted McCain to be the nominee, but grassroots and religious conservatives rose up to nominate George W. Bush, the anti-establishment candidate. It could happen again in 2008.Not COULD, Tex... WILL..!! The candidacy is OURS to name - Screw the party power brokers... We will not be told to sit down and vote for the choice of the few...
I think not only the nomination but the Presidency is Thompson's for the taking right now... There isnt another candidate on the stage who even comes close to his attractiveness to the American voter...
I believe, even with the frustration over Iraq, America is still mostly conservative... And Middle America is hungry for a Conservative candidate who they can line up behind... They dont want a liberal - Not Hilary, not Obama, and not any of the watered down, pseudo-conservatives that have jumped on the stage so early...
Although its frustrating for us, I believe its very wise of Thompson to NOT announce a candidacy right now... Its way too early and all the big names officially in the game today are burning campaign assets, including public relations, way too early before the election... It gains Thompson nothing to get in the race "officially" at this point... BUT, it is very smart to keep his name in the news and keep commenting publicly on important events and issues...
One other thing Thompson has in his favor is that he's not only popular with us, he's also popular with his former political collegues... I believe when he does announce (and Im betting now, unless something changes the game drastically, that its just a matter of time), The nomination is going to be wrapped up in a landslide... And we will see the likes of McCain, maybe even Romney and Giuliani, public throw their support to Thompson enthusiastically...
In fact, this may be why Newt has been holding out - He's politically savy and he knows if Thompson joins the race, it would be a waste of time and money for himself to join - Better to work for Thompson's election and be avaliable for a possible cabinet position or the VP slot...
I have to say at this point, I never believe that the welfare of our nation ever pivots on one man... But I cant help but be excited for this possible candidacy... In terms of political beliefs and leadership qualities, Thompson is the closest person I've seen to Reagan in years...
I also think Lubbock had an interesting observation about Thompson NOT needing Newt in the VP position... Could very well be true... Of course my dream ticket would be Homegirl's Thompson/Tancredo team, but I think, for the purposes of winning this race, we can expect to see him choose someone with more name recognition - possibly one of the other big name candidates... I have some suspicions along these lines but Im not ready to speculate publicly until he announces his candidacy and secures the nomination... Things will be clearer then...
Bottom line, we need Thompson to announce officially and we can go to work doing what we can to secure his nomination... In the mean time, Im already promoting his name to everyone I know...
PS: I just read dPrasse's suggestion of JC Watts for VP... Holy Cow, is that a winning ticket or what? :thumb: I can see the Left wailing and gnashing their teeth already... If they lose this presidential race again, dont be suprised to see the Left begin to resort to violence to gain ascendancy over the nation - its about the only option they have left to them short of moving drastically to the right...
Peachdiane
03-12-2007, 08:11 AM
PS: I just read dPrasse's suggestion of JC Watts for VP... Holy Cow, is that a winning ticket or what? :thumb: I can see the Left wailing and gnashing their teeth already...
I like the sound of that. :evilgrin:
The_Elucidator
03-12-2007, 08:23 AM
Although its frustrating for us, I believe its very wise of Thompson to NOT announce a candidacy right now... Its way too early and all the big names officially in the game today are burning campaign assets, including public relations, way too early before the election... It gains Thompson nothing to get in the race "officially" at this point... BUT, it is very smart to keep his name in the news and keep commenting publicly on important events and issues...
Bottom line, we need Thompson to announce officially and we can go to work doing what we can to secure his nomination... In the mean time, Im already promoting his name to everyone I know...
I can picture everyone on the board with their checkbooks open and debit cards out ready to send in the money to his campaign! Just a hunch, but I think you will see a flood of money the likes of which you have never seen. And it won't be from corporate donors, it will be from John Q and Jane D Public! :thumb:
Lazarus
03-12-2007, 08:34 AM
I honestly believe this man can run away with the nomination... Which will drive McCain crazy, because McCain wants the Whitehouse so badly he can taste it...
I know I have been the one who has been saying all along that its too early to get torqued up about candidates - and I suppose Thompson's arrival on the scene vindicates what I have been saying about other better candidates in the wings - But Im gonna make a rough prediction:
If he gets in the race seriously, I believe he can win the nomination with very little expenditure of money, which will leave a massive warchest for the general election... :biggrin:
The_Elucidator
03-12-2007, 08:42 AM
I know I have been the one who has been saying all along that its too early to get torqued up about candidates - and I suppose Thompson's arrival on the scene vindicates what I have been saying about other better candidates in the wings - But Im gonna make a rough prediction:
If he gets in the race seriously, I believe he can win the nomination with very little expenditure of money, which will leave a massive warchest for the general election... :biggrin:
Nothing wrong with getting torqued! It feels like we are holding a $250M winning lotto ticket just waiting to be verified! Folks know who he is so name recognition is not a problem and you are absolutely correct about the money expenditure issue!
John Galt
03-12-2007, 09:04 AM
After looking at his voting record I can say that Fred doesn't make me want to vomit all over the monitor, which makes him one of the best candidates the republicans have offered up so far, but I still like Tancredo better.
pRIMrose
03-12-2007, 09:06 AM
Hi Longhorn :wave: It has been awhile. How's Xane. Bet he's a big boy now.
Can't begin to tell you how pleased I am that Fred Thompson may run. It's given me a whole new perspective and HOPE.
Lazarus
03-12-2007, 09:10 AM
One thing that Thompson has going for him (besides being a true conservative, which I think America is looking desperately for), is a strong leadersip personality... He looks and sounds presidential when he speaks... He has the kind of personality that makes people feel confident and want to trust him...
This is an asset that will make it damned difficult for those political opponents, both foreign and domestic, who have tried to paint Bush as a reckless cowboy and frat boy... Thompson's personality strength is going to make it easier for other world leaders to line up behind him with confidence, and should strengthen our hand internationally...
I read the transcript of his interview on Fox... I like the feel of his answers - They were not the answers of a politician - It was the voice of a statesman who is looking seriously and intelligently at some real problems we are faced with... If I had one general criticism of the way Bush has handled Iraq, it has been that we didnt go at the situation with enough people or firepower... And Thompson very diplomatically stated just this position...
...If Saddam Hussein was still around today with his sons looking at Iran developing a nuclear capability, he undoubtedly would have reconstituted his nuclear capability. Things would be worse than what they are today.
We've got to rectify the mistakes that we've made. We went in there too light, wrong rules of engagement, wrong strategy, placed too much emphasis on just holding things in place while we built up the Iraqi army, took longer than we figured.I think this sums up my own feelings on Iraq... I think this man not only sees where the problems are, he sounds like he's not afraid to tackle the situation with some real muscle - and let the UN be damned...
He also has concisely stated the best arguement for why we were justified in going into Iraq... For me, it was never about specific WMDs - Hell we knew he had WMDs - He used them on the Kurds for all the world to see... Saddam was a dangerous man who was trying to become the King of the Middle East and he was perfectly willing to set it on fire to achieve his ends...
I like how this man thinks...
Lazarus
03-12-2007, 09:17 AM
After looking at his voting record I can say that Fred doesn't make me want to vomit all over the monitor, which makes him one of the best candidates the republicans have offered up so far, but I still like Tancredo better.Tancredo won my heart long before Presidential politics raised its ugly head, and I was thrilled when he announced his candidacy on Fox News... And if Tancredo had remained the only conservative candidate, he would have my vote in the primaries, regardless of his chances...
But now with Thompson on the scene, we actually have a candidate with a realistic chance of actually taking the Whitehouse in a Reagan-esque landslide... Tancredo simply has no national name recognition except among those who watch politics closely... But with a Thompson presidency, I can see a situation where Tancredo rises to national prominence over the next few years (in a cabinet post or a more prominent position in the House) and maybe a Tancredo claim on the Whitehouse could become a distinct reality...
Naturalized-Texan
03-12-2007, 09:24 AM
One thing that Thompson has going for him (besides being a true conservative, which I think America is looking desperately for), is a strong leadersip personality...
The main reason that I had been considering Rudy, even with all his baggage, was that he was the only candidate with the leadership qualities required to be president in these perilous times.
With Fred Thompson, we have a potential candidate that has those superior leadership qualities required to be president, without the baggage. We need him!
HomeschoolrsRUs
03-12-2007, 09:34 AM
One thing that Thompson has going for him (besides being a true conservative, which I think America is looking desperately for), is a strong leadersip personality... He looks and sounds presidential when he speaks... He has the kind of personality that makes people feel confident and want to trust him...
And he's played one on the screen ( Last Best Chance (http://imdb.com/title/tt0468506/) (2005) (V) .... President Charles Ross ) , as well as a D.A., FBI Agent, White House Chief of Staff, Rear Admiral, Lt. Colonel, Maj. General, CIA Director, a Senator, and Himself, :smirky: . Fred Dalton Thompson - IMDb (http://imdb.com/name/nm0000669/)
This is an asset that will make it damned difficult for those political opponents, both foreign and domestic, who have tried to paint Bush as a reckless cowboy and frat boy... Thompson's personality strength is going to make it easier for other world leaders to line up behind him with confidence, and should strengthen our hand internationally...
He does seem to generate an atmosphere of trust and integrity.
I read the transcript of his interview on Fox...
I feel horrible for those people dealing with the fires in California, but man I was so ticked last night ... I missed the early edition of Fox News Sunday with Chris Wallace, so I was looking forward to the 6pm edition so I could see the interview with Senator Thompson. They preempted it for live coverage of the fires. Does anyone know where I can fiind the video in its entirety? I've only seen bits, pieces and snippets. I know I can read the transcript, but I want see AND hear his comments, not just read them.
I like the feel of his answers - They were not the answers of a politician - It was the voice of a statesman who is looking seriously and intelligently at some real problems we are faced with... If I had one general criticism of the way Bush has handled Iraq, it has been that we didnt go at the situation with enough people or firepower... And Thompson very diplomatically stated just this position...
I think this sums up my own feelings on Iraq... I think this man not only sees where the problems are, he sounds like he's not afraid to tackle the situation with some real muscle - and let the UN be damned...
He also has concisely stated the best arguement for why we were justified in going into Iraq... For me, it was never about specific WMDs - Hell we knew he had WMDs - He used them on the Kurds for all the world to see... Saddam was a dangerous man who was trying to become the King of the Middle East and he was perfectly willing to set it on fire to achieve his ends...
I like how this man thinks...
What I have seen, I really liked. I want to see the whole thing. I've looked at the sites listing his stances and actions based on the issues. A few of them are troubling to me, but not NEARLY as troubling as the thought of a McRomniani presidency.
For the field as it stands, Tancredo looks and sounds the best TO ME -- that is why I think a Thompson/Tancredo ticket would do MUCH for restoring the party, principles and promise for this country.
Lazarus
03-12-2007, 09:47 AM
Homes, check out the video on this page... Im not sure if its the video of the Sunday interview (I cant watch it on this puter), but it may be...
http://www.foxnews.com/video/index.html
HomeschoolrsRUs
03-12-2007, 10:08 AM
Nope, I can't get it to work -- video feed comes up, asks me to pick a speed, but doesn't matter which one I pick, no video ever comes up, :sad: . Maybe they haven't got it fully loaded yet, or something.
DeclinetoState
03-12-2007, 10:27 AM
At least Fred Thompson has a "normal" sounding name that can't be morphed into something weird.
Gingrich has little chance of being elected, especially when one takes a look at his character background, which includes divorcing his first wife while she was suffering from uterine cancer (http://www.robertscheer.com/1_natcolumn/94_columns/122594.htm).
Naturalized-Texan
03-12-2007, 11:10 AM
I was able to watch the video. He was very impressive. I haven't been as excited about a potential candidate since Reagan.
HomeschoolrsRUs
03-12-2007, 11:12 AM
Arrrggghhh -- I want to watch the video! I don't know what I'm doing wrong, it just play for me. http://www.freeconservatives.com/vb/images/icons/icon8.gif
Longhorn_Platinum
03-12-2007, 11:35 AM
Naturalized-Texan:
I haven't been as excited about a potential candidate since Reagan.
:moo: Thompson must be the right man for the job. He's even got NT & me agreeing on something.
Naturalized-Texan
03-12-2007, 11:39 AM
:moo: Thompson must be the right man for the job. He's even got NT & me agreeing on something.
:rotflmbo:
Rhino
03-12-2007, 11:40 AM
Arrrggghhh -- I want to watch the video! I don't know what I'm doing wrong, it just play for me. http://www.freeconservatives.com/vb/images/icons/icon8.gifDo you have Macromedia Flash?
Longhorn_Platinum
03-12-2007, 11:41 AM
pRIMrose:
Hi Longhorn :wave: It has been awhile. How's Xane. Bet he's a big boy now.
:moo: He is functioning within normal parameters. Here are a couple of pictures we took a year ago.
http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l294/Longhorn_Platinum/Xane052.jpg
http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l294/Longhorn_Platinum/Xane045.jpg
:moo: He doesn't show up well in that second one, but notice what the sign says.
:moo: Oh, & I saw your post at the Draft Fred Thompson board.
HomeschoolrsRUs
03-12-2007, 11:42 AM
Do you have Macromedia Flash?
Hmmm, how do I know?
Rhino
03-12-2007, 11:48 AM
Hmmm, how do I know?If you're using IE6, you can just click Tools-Manage Add-ons and see "Shockwave Flash Object" in the list.
HomeschoolrsRUs
03-12-2007, 11:49 AM
If you're using IE6, you can just click Tools-Manage Add-ons and see "Shockwave Flash Object" in the list.
I have AOL and Opera -- I do have Internet Explorer, but I don't know what version it is as I never use it.
Rhino
03-12-2007, 11:50 AM
Sounds like he wants to increase the CAFE standards. I disagreee with that. The rest sounded pretty good though.
Rhino
03-12-2007, 11:53 AM
I have AOL and Opera -- I do have Internet Explorer, but I don't know what version it is as I never use it.Can't help you with Opera. Sorry.
The_Sonarman
03-12-2007, 12:21 PM
I understand (as of today at least) that Mr. Thompson is considering a run for the Presidency. He hasn't ruled it out.
I've done some research on him. He'd make a fine President.
Lazarus
03-12-2007, 12:21 PM
:moo: Thompson must be the right man for the job. He's even got NT & me agreeing on something.hehehehe I was gonna say the same thing... If he can bring me and Tex together without fighting, just think what he could do for the Israelis and the Palestinians... :biggrin:
Longhorn_Platinum
03-12-2007, 05:43 PM
dPrasse:
http://www.petitiononline.com/FDT_08/petition.html
Sign the Petition ...I'm #14 ...
:moo: It just went past 3000. Lucky me, I'm in the top 100.
Timberwolf
03-12-2007, 08:42 PM
3372 Signatures Total
Longhorn and Laz in agreement with Tex?
*swoon* Vision....gettting....fuzzy....*thud*
Huh? Whahappened?
The_Elucidator
03-13-2007, 07:06 AM
:moo: It just went past 3000. Lucky me, I'm in the top 100.
Ditto... :thumb: We put the roots in Grass roots!
Naturalized-Texan
03-13-2007, 08:27 AM
3372 Signatures Total
Longhorn and Laz in agreement with Tex?
*swoon* Vision....gettting....fuzzy....*thud*
Huh? Whahappened?
Actually, I agree with Laz most of the time.
BEST45CAL
03-13-2007, 09:38 AM
Thompson has the "dad" factor going for him.
Someone you feel as if you can look up to, someone who appears to be wise and likeable, someone who is articulate, eloquent and strong.
Ronald Reagan was like "dad."
So is Fred Thompson.
buckeyepete
03-13-2007, 10:56 AM
I received this in my E-mail from my sister.:D
I never pass along these "add your name" lists that appear in my email, but this one is too important. This one has been circulating for months. Keep it going!
To show your support for Hillary and encourage her on her run for President of the United States in 2008, please add your name to the list below and send it on to your entire list.
1.
Lazarus
03-13-2007, 11:34 AM
I got that email list from my friend in Iraq... And I actually signed it and passed it back - I WANT Hilary to run... She's a dream Democrat opponent for any Republican candidate...
Bring on the Marxist nutcase!!!!:evilgrin:
Cant you just imagine a Debate between her and Thompson? It would be brutal...
Longhorn_Platinum
03-13-2007, 08:03 PM
Naturalized-Texan:
Actually, I agree with Laz most of the time.
:moo: Actually, he agree with me most of the time. Just not when the topic is religion.
Lazarus
03-14-2007, 07:58 AM
Actually, I agree with Laz most of the time.This is true... Its just that the rare moments when we dont agree are usually punctuated by lively exchanges of nuclear weapons...:D
Rhino
03-14-2007, 08:10 AM
With the occasional napalm tossed in for good measure. There's a difference between spirited discussion and antagonistic discussion. You guys got spirit. :D
Lazarus
03-14-2007, 08:53 AM
I love the smell of naplm in the morning... :thumb:
Naturalized-Texan
03-14-2007, 09:57 AM
This is true... Its just that the rare moments when we dont agree are usually punctuated by lively exchanges of nuclear weapons...:D
Actually, we only exchange conventional weapons. We are just out to conquer, not destroy. :rotflmbo:
Lazarus
03-14-2007, 11:27 AM
In this context Conquer = Annoy...:biggrin:
Besides nukes are expensive - We save those for the big show, when the Libs finally decide to get fiesty...:evilgrin:
Beowulf
03-15-2007, 06:25 AM
Cant you just imagine a Debate between her and Thompson? It would be brutal...
Yeah, for her. She'd so get her ass handed to her.
TheIrishman
03-15-2007, 10:48 PM
There are now 6925 signatures!
Etaoin
03-16-2007, 05:59 PM
If no one has already posted this, Hannity is running a poll and as of 5 minutes ago, the results are:
Results: What GOP candidate are you most likely to vote for even if they have not announced yet?
<TABLE cellSpacing=1 cellPadding=3 width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR><TD width="5%">1.</TD><TD>Newt Gingrich</TD><TD align=right width="8%">18.46%</TD><!--<td width="8%" align="right">(1369)</td>--><TD style="WIDTH: 120px">
</TD></TR><TR><TD width="5%">2.</TD><TD>Rudy Giuliani</TD><TD align=right width="8%">11.69%</TD><!--<td width="8%" align="right">(867)</td>--><TD style="WIDTH: 120px">
</TD></TR><TR><TD width="5%">3.</TD><TD>Mike Huckabee</TD><TD align=right width="8%">1.36%</TD><!--<td width="8%" align="right">(101)</td>--><TD style="WIDTH: 120px">
</TD></TR><TR><TD width="5%">4.</TD><TD>Sec. of State Condi Rice</TD><TD align=right width="8%">4.37%</TD><!--<td width="8%" align="right">(324)</td>--><TD style="WIDTH: 120px">
</TD></TR><TR><TD width="5%">5.</TD><TD>Sen. Sam Brownback</TD><TD align=right width="8%">2.39%</TD><!--<td width="8%" align="right">(177)</td>--><TD style="WIDTH: 120px">
</TD></TR><TR><TD width="5%">6.</TD><TD>Sen. Fred Thompson</TD><TD align=right width="8%">52.43%</TD><!--<td width="8%" align="right">(3888)</td>--><TD style="WIDTH: 120px">
</TD></TR><TR><TD width="5%">7.</TD><TD>Sen. John McCain</TD><TD align=right width="8%">1.56%</TD><!--<td width="8%" align="right">(116)</td>--><TD style="WIDTH: 120px">
</TD></TR><TR><TD width="5%">8.</TD><TD>Gov. Mitt Romney</TD><TD align=right width="8%">7.73%</TD><!--<td width="8%" align="right">(573)</td>--><TD style="WIDTH: 120px">
</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>
Rhino
03-16-2007, 07:11 PM
If no one has already posted this....They have.
http://www.freeconservatives.com/vb/showthread.php?t=45467
noncom
03-16-2007, 09:22 PM
I hate to be a wet blanket, but I bet that because Thompson (for whom I'd vote in a heartbeat) is so popular, the jokers at the GOP won't give him the candidacy.
I bet the weenies are afraid that "he will not win."
Any bets?
Um, newsflash: we ARE those weenies.
The liberal media is doing everything in its power to make us all believe that the "front-runners" have already been decided by some imaginary "smoke-filled room" somewhere.
But, as always, nothing could possibly be further from the truth than the line the liberal media is trying to feed us.
It seems that very few people understand how easy primary elections are to get involved in and to influence. Winning an election is damned hard, but stepping in early to help out a potential primary candidate leverages your efforts about a hundredfold.
If you have a hundred bucks; that makes a difference. If you're willing to put in some hard work, that makes a big difference. If you have a dozen friends you can convince; that makes even more of a difference.
And even if you don't have any of those things... Oh, wait; I guess that would make you a liberal. Well, never mind that part. Anyway...
I'm putting everyone on notice right now that I will not spend one second listening to anyone's silly-assed whining about "not having a good enough Republican candidate" unless you first verify that you are planning to put forth everything that you can physically, economically and spiritually spare during the primaries.
If someone chooses to not do any of that stuff, and prefers to instead just sit around whining about how those gosh-darned "Republican fat cats" the moonbats invented didn't drop a good enough candidate down the chimney for all us conservative little boys and girls, then I'm afraid my patience will wear a little thin.
The Democrats have nothing going for them except a ginned-up hatred of George Bush; and they are planning to sick their moonbats onto the scent of our next candidate as soon as we have a front-runner. Just like John Kerry, their candidate will be another empty shell except for his or her role as the physical embodiment of their hatred - as the next "anti-Republican."
But who the Republican candidate is will make all the difference in the world: another guilt-ridden "compassionate" conservative, who helps the liberals castigate him and in doing so publically validates their hatred -- or an un-apologetic conservative who forces the opposition to actually OPPOSE him, and in the process stumble all over themselves trying to turn their fuzzy mass of emotions into a clear set of positions for the first time since 1984.
My point is that the upcoming Republican Primaries will decide the 2008 election, and we conservatives are going to have to pick a horse and back it as hard as we can. Once you commit to doing that, I'll be sympathetic as all heck if you later want to whine about not getting the candidate you wanted.
...Honestly, there could be tears.
But not until you've done something to deserve them.
Maggie_T
03-17-2007, 10:13 AM
Um, newsflash: we ARE those weenies.
The liberal media is doing everything in its power to make us all believe that the "front-runners" have already been decided by some imaginary "smoke-filled room" somewhere.
But, as always, nothing could possibly be further from the truth than the line the liberal media is trying to feed us.
That's true.
If you have a hundred bucks; that makes a difference. If you're willing to put in some hard work, that makes a big difference. If you have a dozen friends you can convince; that makes even more of a difference.
And even if you don't have any of those things... Oh, wait; I guess that would make you a liberal. Well, never mind that part.
:D
I'm putting everyone on notice right now that I will not spend one second listening to anyone's silly-assed whining about "not having a good enough Republican candidate" unless you first verify that you are planning to put forth everything that you can physically, economically and spiritually spare during the primaries.
Aw, shucks, you were doing so well till now.
Non, your time is yours to spend as you wish. But speaking for myself, I take exception to being told to "verify" anything I do before I speak out. I don't "verify" anything to anyone. What I do and how I behave is my own business, and I speak out as I want, where I want, when I want, to whom I want.
If someone chooses to not do any of that stuff, and prefers to instead just sit around whining about how those gosh-darned "Republican fat cats" the moonbats invented didn't drop a good enough candidate down the chimney for all us conservative little boys and girls, then I'm afraid my patience will wear a little thin.
Threat taken. OTOH, you'd have to actually verify that all people are doing is sitting around and whining first, wouldn't you. When Brenda and the rest of the administrators name you official verifier of posters' political activism, then come and threaten me with your thin patience.
Now, I've put my butt on the line saying all of the above, seeing as how some posters have an extremely thin skin when it comes to my "answering back." I hope you are not one of them, Non. I really like you.
The Democrats have nothing going for them except a ginned-up hatred of George Bush; and they are planning to sick their moonbats onto the scent of our next candidate as soon as we have a front-runner. Just like John Kerry, their candidate will be another empty shell except for his or her role as the physical embodiment of their hatred - as the next "anti-Republican."
Totally agreed.
But who the Republican candidate is will make all the difference in the world: another guilt-ridden "compassionate" conservative, who helps the liberals castigate him and in doing so publically validates their hatred -- or an un-apologetic conservative who forces the opposition to actually OPPOSE him, and in the process stumble all over themselves trying to turn their fuzzy mass of emotions into a clear set of positions for the first time since 1984.
Ok. That paragraph alone earned you my vote for POM. :thumb:
...Honestly, there could be tears.
But not until you've done something to deserve them.
Well, you'll just have to take my word for it, mate.
In the meantime, I'll rant and rave as I please. And I'll start by saying that Thompson's confession to signing the abominable McCain-Feingold disaster was a blow I'm still reeling from.
OTOH, he is extremely sound on non-activist judges ... who should know enough to dismiss his pro-McCain-Feingold stance as the un-constitutional disaster it is. :evilgrin:
Rhino
03-17-2007, 10:17 AM
Someone may have already posted this:
Fred Thompson on the issues:
http://www.ontheissues.org/Senate/Fred_Thompson.htm
HomeschoolrsRUs
03-17-2007, 10:20 AM
Sis Mags,
I agree 100%.
One thing, though, I can certainly relate to in the physical world - as opposed to the internet one here at FC -- is having to listen to pathetic whining, griping, moaning and groaning about the current state of politics, the candidates, the parties, the elections, etc., from the same people who refuse to get involved or even to vote! THAT ticks me off big-time. I know you have put in your time, worked on behalf of your ideology, opinions, principles, and beliefs, as do I, as do I would venture to say the majority of the freecers here. There are those out there, though, that all they WANT to do is complain ... they don't WANT to participate, they don't want to be part of the solution, only to contribute more to the problem(s). It's that part of noncom's post I can certainly relate to.
But, in relation to your post, you are spot on, sister! :thumb:
Rhino
03-17-2007, 10:38 AM
noncom may not listen to me? I'm shattered.
Maggie_T
03-17-2007, 10:43 AM
Thank you, Sis.
Mind you, I can relate to the physical world, too. Here in Commie Maine, where even 'pubs are liberals, that's all they do. But when it comes to acting, they all hide under their beds.
That's one of the reasons I stopped posting in our local conservative website. Apart from two or three genuine conservatives (the owner of the website and Hubby - I can't remember who the other one is), the rest is a sorry assortment of another "guilt-ridden "compassionate" conservative, who help the liberals castigate them and in doing so publically validates their hatred," as Noncom so accurately describes them.
The spend their time bending backwards trying to be "civil" to liberals, and getting said behind kicked for their trouble. They hate me and very much disapprove of the way I treat liberals. They are hysterical Coulterphobes. In short, they thoroughly disgust me.
noncom
03-17-2007, 11:54 AM
Mind you, I can relate to the physical world, too. Here in Commie Maine, where even 'pubs are liberals, that's all they do. But when it comes to acting, they all hide under their beds.
That's one of the reasons I stopped posting in our local conservative website. Apart from two or three genuine conservatives (the owner of the website and Hubby - I can't remember who the other one is), the rest is a sorry assortment of another "guilt-ridden "compassionate" conservative, who help the liberals castigate them and in doing so publically validates their hatred," as Noncom so accurately describes them.
The spend their time bending backwards trying to be "civil" to liberals, and getting said behind kicked for their trouble. They hate me and very much disapprove of the way I treat liberals. They are hysterical Coulterphobes. In short, they thoroughly disgust me.
Let's do the math here: you, plus at least three others... that must be nearly all the Republicans there are in the whole state of Maine. Sounds like some of those bleeding hearts must be faking their affiliation.
Seriously though, they do to the word "compassion" what homosexual fetishists did to the word "gay." I prefer calling the elitist snobs "Rockefeller Republicans:" people who think the best way to fight Socialism is through unlimited big government.
Yes, these limp-wristed fools have some sway within the Beltway right now. Washington is a tiny, myopic little world. People who live there remember only very recent history. Reagan's landslides are long forgotten; Bush's skin-of-his-teeth victories have "proved" to them that the only way to win is by out-moderating our opponents. Unfortunately, that strategy barely worked against two incredibly weak opponents. Against a zealot like Hillary, it's a recipe for disaster.
But there is no call whatsoever for hand-wringing. The important thing to remember is that the men behind the curtain are neither great nor powerful. We're talking about nothing but a handful of fence-sitters. Aside from McCain, these guys are like a bunch of moths; they fear the spotlight as much as they crave it. All we need to do to keep these milquetoasts in line is show them they have a lot more to gain or lose from us than from the liberal media. And the way to do that is by becoming active in the primary process.
And trust me, that won't be all that hard to do if we put our minds to it. The moderate wing of the Republican Party is anything BUT an unswayable juggernaut. Most of these fence-sitters deep down inside want nothing more than to be invalidated.
Fearing these pantywaists just confuses and agitates them. We need to show these losers the right KIND of compassion, and care enough to give them what they really need - a nice, safe comfortable seat back on the sidelines where they've always belonged.
Rhino
03-17-2007, 12:09 PM
Washington is a tiny, myopic little world.You got that right.
All we need to do to keep these milquetoasts in line is show them they have a lot more to gain or lose from us than from the liberal media. And we can do that by becoming active in the primary process.For most people, that isn't really an option. Most states don't have primaries that have a great effect on the electoral process. Many of them have primaries well after the nominees have been decided on. That's another system that needs to be fixed.
Maggie_T
03-17-2007, 01:34 PM
Let's do the math here: you, plus at least three others... that must be nearly all the Republicans there are in the whole state of Maine. Sounds like some of those bleeding hearts must be faking their affiliation.
I don't know about their affiliation, but they certainly fake their conservatism. Man, I could tell you stories that would frizz your hair. :flame:
Seriously though, they do to the word "compassion" what homosexual fetishists did to the word "gay."
Abso-bloody-lutely!
I prefer calling the elitist snobs "Rockefeller Republicans:" people who think the best way to fight Socialism is through unlimited big government.
LOL. Personally, I call them the Republican Brahmins for Civil Discourse. Not only because I think it's as pompous a name as those I gave it to, but also, because they don't have the guts to stand up to liberals. And they pretend to hide that behind a thin - and unconvincing - veneer of "civility."
And trust me, that won't be all that hard to do if we put our minds to it. The moderate wing of the Republican Party is anything BUT an unswayable juggernaut. Most of these fence-sitters deep down inside want nothing more than to be invalidated.
Well, there I disagree with you. I think that what motivates these yellow-bellies is their own vanity. They believe they are so virtuous, so refined, SO much above the riff-raff who indulge in Coulter-like warfare (that's you and me, dear; me, at any rate). They are so full of themselves ... among other things.
We need to show these losers the right KIND of compassion, and care enough to give them what they really need - a nice, safe comfortable seat back on the sidelines where they've always belonged.
I could think of other more suitable places, but that's only the riff-raffish, Coulter-like boor in me. :evilgrin:
noncom
03-17-2007, 02:37 PM
And trust me, that won't be all that hard to do if we put our minds to it. The moderate wing of the Republican Party is anything BUT an unswayable juggernaut. Most of these fence-sitters deep down inside want nothing more than to be invalidated.
Well, there I disagree with you. I think that what motivates these yellow-bellies is their own vanity. They believe they are so virtuous, so refined, SO much above the riff-raff who indulge in Coulter-like warfare (that's you and me, dear; me, at any rate). They are so full of themselves ... among other things.
I'm not talking about the annoying twits preening at your local country club. (Or maybe I am, but that's not who I meant, anyway...)
What I initially took exception to was your comment about the "jokers in the GOP [not giving Fred Thompson] the candidacy." I assumed you were talking about Washington insiders.
The "rabidly moderate" wing among those most active in the GOP is really a small and inefectual minority. They are paper tigers. People like the "McCain Seven" may appear to have some power right now, but that's mostly an illusion created by the liberal media. And what little influence they do have can be made to evaporate when the rubber meets the road during Primary Season.
To quote their spiritual icon: the only thing we have to fear is fear itself. If we conservatives buy into the line that somebody somewhere in the Republican Party has already picked a list of "frontrunners", and we had better just learn to deal with it, that's the only way they can panic us into trying to settle for a compromise -- another Bush Lite candidate that a dedicated liberal with a rabid base will be able to compete with.
dPrasse
03-17-2007, 08:35 PM
7552 on the poll ... wow ! Hope Fred is watching ...
dPrasse
03-17-2007, 09:20 PM
former Sen Bill Frist supports Fred Thompson and has talked to Fred ... Three things I need to share this morning: 1. I talked to Fred Thompson last night, really just to share with him the tremendous support that he has received from all of you who have blogged on the Volpac web site over the past 4 days. In your messages many of you have given specific suggestions, and I passed them on to him. If there are messages, or ideas that you'd like to get to Fred, write them below, to stimulate others with your ideas, and I will share them with Fred. Now is the time for big ideas ... big, true conservative ideas that rise above the fray. Fred is listening. He will carefully consider running over the next several weeks. His public statements exactly reflect what he is thinking inside.
http://www.volpac.org/
dPrasse
03-17-2007, 09:23 PM
Fred is running a strong second , behind Hunter ...
http://www.gopnation.com/
no votes for McPain ...
Lazarus
03-19-2007, 08:18 AM
This nomination is Thompson's for the taking... The only thing that can stop him is if he decides he doesnt want the job...
He already has a great deal of support from his former collegues in the Senate, and even those who are also running for the same nomination respect him so much that it will be hard for them to criticize him...
Peachdiane
03-19-2007, 08:33 AM
And he's already stated that taking the job might ease up his current schedule. :D
Lazarus
03-19-2007, 08:42 AM
HAHAHAHA!!! Well, alright... Time for a Vacation Fred... Run for the Whitehouse and relax for 8 years... :thumb:
Peachdiane
03-19-2007, 08:56 AM
:rotflmbo:
Longhorn_Platinum
03-19-2007, 04:33 PM
:moo: With President Thompson in the White House, we'll all relax more.
Maggie_T
03-19-2007, 06:28 PM
No doubt about THAT.
Timberwolf
03-19-2007, 06:53 PM
Fred is running a strong second , behind Hunter ...
http://www.gopnation.com/
no votes for McPain ...
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Well, McVain beat Gilmore and Hagel....:biggrin:
HEY!! RNC!!! Y'all payin' attention? 75% want a CONSERVATIVE as the nominee...get with the program.
Lazarus
03-21-2007, 10:07 AM
BuckeyeMike made this statement on another thread, so I thought I'd expand on it here...
You can't believe how I hope you're right about Fred.....and he gets the VP HE wants and not some GHWB type foisted upon him!I dont believe it will be the same situation as it was when Reagan was compelled to do a deal with GHW Bush... In that situation, the primary was a nasty race, with Reagan coming out on top... But he wanted to galvanize the Republican party behind him and his plan as they approached the general election... So he chose Bush Sr as his running mate as an olive branch to the CC Republicans who had opposed Reagan... And in that situation, I believe it was the smart political move...
But in the case of Thompson, I dont believe such a deal will be necessary... I honestly believe, when Thompson finally does announce his candidacy, he is going to run away with the nomination - its going to be embarrassingly one-sided... And with such broad support from the voters, he will be in a position to choose who HE wants as a running mate...
Now that doesnt mean he still wont choose a VP who is left of his position - Whereas he probably wont need this to galvanize the Republicans, he may look ahead to the general election and believe a "moderate" name on the ticket will be the killing blow to pull the fence-sitters among the voters to his side... That is a political calculation that could be critical for the general election - Thompson will have to make that call...
Still, my dream ticket would be Thompson+Tancredo, but there are some other Thompson+ combos I could live with... As with GHW Bush, the VP slot is not nearly as critical in my mind as the front seat... Reagan was such a great Commander that Bush was overshadowed and compelled to go along with Reagan's policies... I believe Thompson has that kind of leadership strength, and as such, that neutralizes most negative aspects that may be attached to most of the potential VP candidates...
BuckeyeMike
03-21-2007, 10:18 AM
But it put a "One World Order" advocate in a precarious (to us) position only a heartbeat away, and to go on to win the big prize. The ensuing two administrations were and are continuations of that "One World Order" stench.
Fred Thompson HAS to break that "chain", as it were, if only for four, hopefully eight years. Ronald Reagan was an anomoly to the Bush's, Clinton's and the rest of that ilk. I'm sure they don't want that to happen again. The MSM has a lot of work ahead of them if Fred Thompson gets the nod from us!
I'll trust your judgement on Tancredo...but I'm going to take a closer look bofore I commit!
BTW Laz, thanks for binging this here....I'd chosen the same thread for it, but you beat me to it!
dPrasse
03-21-2007, 11:27 AM
On the Draft Fred board , seems as though JC Watts and Duncan Hunter get alot of support for VP ...
Lazarus
03-21-2007, 11:29 AM
I agree with the "One World order" threat... We definitely lost ground since Reagan left office... But his effects are still felt today... For which Im truly grateful...
I do indeed believe Thompson will be the man to carry Reagan's torch... Tancredo is just like him, only much less known in public circles... Tancredo is mostly known for his hardline stand against the president's open border/Mexican invasion tolerance... But he's just had solid on all other major conservative issues...
I believe Tancredo will become better known during this next election cycle... I dont think Tancredo has any illusions about his chances of being nominated by the Republicans, but instead I think he has enteresd the race to force the debate on issues that real Americans consider important, and the MSM ansd "front runners" have swept under the rug...
That alone tells you that he is dedicated to Conservative principles as opposed to personal gain...
BuckeyeMike
03-21-2007, 11:32 AM
From what I'm reading and what I've seen on the YouTube so far you're probably right!
Lazarus
03-21-2007, 11:39 AM
On the Draft Fred board , seems as though JC Watts and Duncan Hunter get alot of support for VP ...To my shame (Im sure) I must admit I only know Duncan Hunter by name - other than that I know nothing of him... JC Watts, IMO, would be an outstanding VP choice... Not only for his solid Conservative politics, but also because of the obvious political/social implications...
The Dems have always claimed and assumed that they had the Black vote in their back pocket - And historically they have, generally speaking... But that strangle hold is breaking as more educated blacks begin to think for themselves... The Pubs can claim to have produced the first black Secretary of State (probably the most significant cabinet post next to maybe Sec of Defense), then they produced the first black woman Sec of State... Now if they produce the first black VP, its just another very big brick in the wall between the Dems and the black voting block...
In fact I see the black voting block fragmenting into those who wish to remain victims and wards of the state, and those who have the courage and imagination to be Free Men and contributors to American Culture... I predict that in my lifetime, we may well see the "black voting block" become a thing of the past as educated blacks and black businessmen gravitate to the Conservative end of the political spectrum... Many are already refusing to march to Jesse Jackson's slavery drum...
dPrasse
03-21-2007, 11:43 AM
But , Laz ... never forget ...
Bill Clinton was our first Black President and Hillary was the first White Aunt Jemima ... hard firsts for Conservatives to compete with :lol:
I agree , though ... more and more "Bill Cosby's" are coming out ...and the more viscious the attack on them , the more we'll see decent , law abiding but not politically "involved" step forward and break from the race pimps
Republican_Legion
03-21-2007, 11:46 AM
I agree with the "One World order" threat... We definitely lost ground since Reagan left office... But his effects are still felt today... For which Im truly grateful...
I do indeed believe Thompson will be the man to carry Reagan's torch... Tancredo is just like him, only much less known in public circles... Tancredo is mostly known for his hardline stand against the president's open border/Mexican invasion tolerance... But he's just had solid on all other major conservative issues...
I believe Tancredo will become better known during this next election cycle... I dont think Tancredo has any illusions about his chances of being nominated by the Republicans, but instead I think he has enteresd the race to force the debate on issues that real Americans consider important, and the MSM ansd "front runners" have swept under the rug...
That alone tells you that he is dedicated to Conservative principles as opposed to personal gain...
Tancredo would poll higher for VP if he had a face lift or make over. He just doesnt look very presidential or as someone they could picture as VP. Appearance does play a part with voters in winning their trust and making them feel comfortable. That said he would be viable spot for Speaker of the house or majority leader.
Hunter looks more presidential and holds the same immigration views as Tancredo and thats probally whats giving him the advantage and even giving him 2nd place in South Carolina polls. He's a solid guy also except for on spending but he seems to be very likeable in South Carolina. He was one of the few who showed up at the March for Life rally a few months ago, that obviouslly earned him points in Carolina. He also opposes the north american union crap like Tancredo.
HomeschoolrsRUs
03-21-2007, 11:57 AM
I disagree regarding Tancredo's looks. Yes, he's bland, but so are many regular, everyday people AND congresscritters. LISTEN to him ... listen to his speech at CPAC, THEN tell me he doesn't sound like a worthy conservative. His problem is not his persona, his problem is lack of media exposure.
Tom Tancredo on the Issues (http://www.ontheissues.org/House/Tom_Tancredo.htm)
Lazarus
03-21-2007, 12:02 PM
But , Laz ... never forget ...
Bill Clinton was our first Black President and Hillary was the first White Aunt Jemima ... hard firsts for Conservatives to compete with :lol:Good point, bro... They may have trumped us with the Black Clintons...:biggrin:
If the blacks want to be offended by something, they should be offended by that - The First Black President isnt black at all but a Southern white con artist... That's the best they can come up with? If I was black, I'd be incredibly offended by such an assertion, and I'd be giving the MSM hell for promoting the insult...
Lazarus
03-21-2007, 12:14 PM
I disagree regarding Tancredo's looks. Yes, he's bland, but so are many regular, everyday people AND congresscritters. LISTEN to him ... listen to his speech at CPAC, THEN tell me he doesn't sound like a worthy conservative. His problem is not his persona, his problem is lack of media exposure.I understand what RL is getting at with his comment, but let me back Homegirl with this observation...
Tancredo's face isnt exciting - its very plain, that's true... He said just precisely that himself when first approached to run for the Whitehouse - "Im not pretty enough to be elected.." But try to catch Tancredo when he's speaking - Not a transcript of what he says... Watch him speak - Listen to his voice and how he makes his points... When he speaks, his common, plain face disappears and you suddenly are listening to a statesman who radiates leadership...
Its the same effect you get from Bill Richardson (Dem Gov of New Mexico)... Richardson looks like the Pillsbury Dough Boy in his photos... But watch him speak and that image evaporates... He suddenly becomes the strong solid personality that one expects from the President...
Which is why I have been preaching here for so long that the real threat on the Democrat side will come from Richardson... Put him in front of a camera, let him speak, and he looks presidential... Its an intangable element that these men have... Richardson has it - Tancredo has it... And it completely overshadows their common, grocery store clerk appearances...
I hate to give the opposition ideas here, but the best way for the Liberal MSM to neutralize Tancredo is to simply never let him speak on camera...
BuckeyeMike
03-21-2007, 12:18 PM
I'm sure they'll do their level best!
Republican_Legion
03-21-2007, 01:46 PM
I disagree regarding Tancredo's looks. Yes, he's bland, but so are many regular, everyday people AND congresscritters. LISTEN to him ... listen to his speech at CPAC, THEN tell me he doesn't sound like a worthy conservative. His problem is not his persona, his problem is lack of media exposure.
Tom Tancredo on the Issues (http://www.ontheissues.org/House/Tom_Tancredo.htm)
I never criticised his stances on the issues. I think we all already know his stances.
so are many regular, everyday people AND congresscritters
And they want someone who looks like a President. Newt, Thompson, Hunter, Romney, Rudy, etc all look like very Presidential. Hunter also has that same low press coverage but is polling high in South Carolina. How do you explain his high numbers in south carolina despite his lack of name recognition ? Tancredo just aint selling and either is McCain and Huckabee
Lazarus
03-21-2007, 02:56 PM
...they want someone who looks like a President. Newt, Thompson, Hunter, Romney, Rudy, etc all look like very Presidential. Hunter also has that same low press coverage but is polling high in South Carolina. How do you explain his high numbers in south carolina despite his lack of name recognition ? Tancredo just aint selling and either is McCain and HuckabeeWell it might be a question of funding and who knows ya... Thompson is well known publicly, and well liked and supported by some big hitters in the political realm... I have no doubts that when he announces his candidacy, he will have no trouble at all raising funds...
Tancredo is well known in political circles but not in the general public... But that may change over the next few months... If Thompson were to choose Tancredo for the No 2 slot, the media cant keep him away from the microphone - and once he starts talking on the naitonal stage, everyone will know Tancredo for the outstanding statesman he is... And that will only enhance the Thompson campaign...
When I think back on previous VP candidates, winners and losers, not many were well known before the general election campaign started... How many people were well informed about Spiro Agnew or Lloyd Bentsen?
And Jack Kemp was well known, and liked, yet he couldnt save the Dole campaign bid...
I believe the political mood dictates more to the outcome pf elections than recognition or presidential looks... And this campaign in particular is going to be strongly effected by the fact that Conservatives feel slighted and intend to exert their muscle - That means conservative candidates will be the choice of the day... Why else would McCain, Guiliani, and Romney be trying to repackage themselves as Conservatives?
I believe in Mr Tancredo - I think he would be an outstanding VP for Thompson... But I trust Thompson's judgement and will be satisfied with his pick...
BuckeyeMike
03-21-2007, 03:05 PM
I think Tancredo would be a fine pick for #2 slot for Fred Thompson.....but if he opts for someone else, I hope he's in the same vein as Tancredo.
John Galt
03-21-2007, 03:06 PM
Heard him substitude for Paul Harvey today during lunch, and he did an excellent job....
http://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2006/2/26/164952.shtml
HomeschoolrsRUs
03-21-2007, 03:12 PM
Heard him substitude for Paul Harvey today during lunch, and he did an excellent job....
http://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2006/2/26/164952.shtml
Yep, he is excellent at Mr. Harvey's post. I, and others, have linked to several of Mr. Harvey's broadcasts to which Senator Thompson is filling in.
Audio: Fred Thompson re: Mexico - FreeConservatives (http://www.freeconservatives.com/vb/showthread.php?t=45667)
What Would Ghandi Do? - Audio by Fred Thompson - FreeConservatives (http://www.freeconservatives.com/vb/showthread.php?t=45463&highlight=Audio)
Audio: Fred Thompson on the Libby Verdict - FreeConservatives (http://www.freeconservatives.com/vb/showthread.php?t=45119&highlight=Audio) (Oops, this one NT posted http://www.freeconservatives.com/vb/images/icons/icon11.gif )
Listen to Paul Harvey Talk About the IRS - FreeConservatives (http://www.freeconservatives.com/vb/showthread.php?t=43790&highlight=Audio) (This one THEBIRD posted)
** EDIT ** A New Audio Link! Fred talking with Laura Ingraham!
Hot Air » Blog Archive » Audio: Fred! talks Mexico, Iraq, and U.S. Attorneys with Laura Ingraham (http://hotair.com/archives/2007/03/21/video-fred-talks-immigration-iraq-and-us-attorneys-with-laura-ingraham/)
Naturalized-Texan
03-21-2007, 04:06 PM
Heard him substitude for Paul Harvey today during lunch, and he did an excellent job....
Another parallel to Reagan. Reagan formulated his political philosophy and his approach to the presidency for several years with his radio program (weekly, I think). He wrote all the scripts for the program himself in long-hand.
Maggie_T
03-21-2007, 06:15 PM
I heard Fred on Laura Ingraham's today. I really like him. :ooo:
And I LOVED his piece on Mexico. :thumb:
Longhorn_Platinum
03-21-2007, 06:21 PM
Lazarus:
When I think back on previous VP candidates, winners and losers, not many were well known before the general election campaign started... How many people were well informed about Spiro Agnew or Lloyd Bentsen?
:unsmile: In Bentsen's case, not many, or he & Dujackass wouldn't have gotten so many votes.
"I am not a crook." -Richard Nixon
"I am not a traitor." -Jane Fonda
"I am not a bimbo." -Jessica Hahn
"I am not a liberal." -Lloyd Bentsen
dPrasse
03-22-2007, 01:16 PM
There is now a Fred Thompson site with the links to the main sites ...
http://www.meetfredthompson.info/
dajoga
03-24-2007, 09:26 PM
The liberal ADA rates all congressional folks based on how they vote. They call a 100% rating a "perfect Liberal Quotient."
So how does Fred rate? They give him a rating of 5! (http://www.adaction.org/lifetimesentennessee.html)
:thumb:
cerebraldebris
03-24-2007, 10:37 PM
is Fred jumping in?
You Might Be A Fredhead
By Lisa Fabrizio
March 22, 2007
Here (http://www.gopusa.com/commentary/guest/2007/lf_03221.shtml) <<<For the full article.
"It seems as though the movement to draft Fred Thompson into the 2008 presidential race is gaining steam. The former Tennessee senator, lawyer and actor's appearance on Fox News Sunday a few weeks ago has re-energized the right in a way that no one else in the race has come close to doing. Why? Because he is truly one of us and because he can win."
ConservativeFV
03-25-2007, 04:09 PM
I can't help but get excited by the propect of Fred running for president. I think the last time I was this excited about politics was when I found out that exit polls mean jack shit.
Rhino
03-26-2007, 07:01 AM
....I found out that exit polls mean jack shit.Jack was a dem candidate as I recall, wasn't he?
Lazarus
03-26-2007, 09:11 AM
Jack was a dem candidate as I recall, wasn't he?:thumb:
dPrasse
03-26-2007, 09:54 PM
The liberal ADA rates all congressional folks based on how they vote. They call a 100% rating a "perfect Liberal Quotient."
So how does Fred rate? They give him a rating of 5! (http://www.adaction.org/lifetimesentennessee.html)
:thumb:
That's purt near PERFECT !!!
Lazarus
03-27-2007, 08:17 AM
And he probably only got that 5% because they caught him eating a salad one day... So he got a Vegan Credit... :thumb:
CONSERVATIVE HERO
03-31-2007, 05:08 PM
I've been growing weary of getting Giulianni (sp) shoved down my throat. This gives me hope for '08.
It'll be a cold day in hell before I vote for Giuliani. People laud the man as some kind of hero of 911, but it's people like him who facilitated its happening.
Rudolph Giuliani sued all the way up to the Supreme Court to defend the city’s sanctuary policy against a 1996 federal law decreeing that cities could not prohibit their employees from cooperating with the INS. Oh yeah? said Giuliani; just watch me. The INS, he claimed, with what turned out to be grotesque irony, only aims to "terrorize people." Though he lost in court, he remained defiant to the end. On September 5, 2001, his handpicked charter-revision committee ruled that New York could still require that its employees keep immigration information confidential to preserve trust between immigrants and government. Six days later, several visa-overstayers (911 Hijackers)participated in the most devastating attack on the city and the country in history.
Republican_Legion
04-01-2007, 02:06 AM
Wow that makes GWB look tough on immigration.
I've read that he sued the goverment to protect Illegals but nothing in this detail so far. Good find.
Well the big money branch of the GOP will probally do their job to dodge the immigration debate thus leaving non-amnesty candidates outcold and no one will bother to watch them debate if the big names are not there.
I'm still watching and reading but Fred Thompson definitely needs to throw his hat into the mix of republican candidates.
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