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Etaoin
04-03-2007, 11:26 AM
Turn on/up your volume

A Man in Need

Try to imagine yourself in this man's shoes, being verbally assaulted with hatred and venom on a daily basis at his job. Try to imagine if you did the very best you knew how to do, and STILL, you were despised and hated without reason. How would you feel? How would you be able to function on a daily basis at your job? How would you feel every time you went out in public, knowing that people despised you and there was nothing you could do to change their minds?




This is awesome - I hope you click on the link. He needs our prayers and thoughts.




Click on http://www.udata.com/users/byrd/pray.htm (http://www.udata.com/users/byrd/pray.htm)

Bluemoon_Rising
04-03-2007, 02:24 PM
I pray for him, I even like the man for his essential decency. But I remain disappointed for his lack of wisdom when it comes to some very profound concerns.

Wolfcounsel
04-03-2007, 02:35 PM
Sorry. When he starts acting like the President and protects our borders, I'll pray for him. Until then, I pray that he stops pandering to the cockroaches scurrying across our border.

Keb
04-03-2007, 02:42 PM
We pray for him every Sunday at church to make good and wise decisions. But I have to agree with Blue Moon, he's been a disappointment. Sometimes I wish VP Cheney had been at the top of the ticket.........

CONSERVATIVE HERO
04-03-2007, 04:07 PM
I pray for him, I even like the man for his essential decency. But I remain disappointed for his lack of wisdom when it comes to some very profound concerns.
I must agree with you. I believe he is ultimately a good man. I'm extremely unhappy with him in some regards, yet often find myself defending him against undue, outlandish, and simply unimaginably hateful attacks (like he's Hitler, or he's behind 911).

I always get these leftists who dive into Bush hating tirades when they hear me comment on my disappointment with him, and then I have to stop them mid-rant and burst their bubble, "no, no, I dislike him for legitimate reasons like his border policy, not because I'm a mindless Bush-hating commie like yourself."

It almost makes me sad to see their faces as the spark of thinking they'd found a friend slowly fades.

DoctorDoom
04-03-2007, 04:51 PM
I wonder how many folks could have withstood the hatred, derision, contempt and venom that have been heaped on George W. Bush 24/7/365 by the demonic RATs and their media ass-kissers since he was chosen as the GOP candidate in 2000.

This man has been subjected to undiluted evil and loathing. He has his faults, but I don't recall any president in my lifetime who has been subjected to the abuse that Bush has suffered day in and day out from those contemptible vermin.

In his shoes, I'd have told them all to take a flying fug at a rolling donut, declared martial law, and had them all shot as enemies of the state.

I'd make a lousy president. My tolerance level for assholes is zero.

Bluemoon_Rising
04-03-2007, 07:09 PM
I wonder how many folks could have withstood the hatred, derision, contempt and venom that have been heaped on George W. Bush 24/7/365 by the demonic RATs and their media ass-kissers since he was chosen as the GOP candidate in 2000.

This man has been subjected to undiluted evil and loathing. He has his faults, but I don't recall any president in my lifetime who has been subjected to the abuse that Bush has suffered day in and day out from those contemptible vermin.

In his shoes, I'd have told them all to take a flying fug at a rolling donut, declared martial law, and had them all shot as enemies of the state.

I'd make a lousy president. My tolerance level for assholes is zero.

He's an essentially decent man, Doc. I like him. My disappointment in him is not the same as the insane vitriol that has been thrown at him by leftist scum, most of it arising out of a hatred for America itself. Indeed, he has held up incredibly well against a scourge of viciousness almost unprecedented in our history. Especially against the backdrop of 9/11 -- it’s almost incomprehensible.

DesertFox
04-03-2007, 08:17 PM
What's incomprehensible isn't that there are lunatics out there, but that they are legion.

thoughtomator
04-04-2007, 03:32 AM
Let the Mexicans pray for him, he's their man.

thoughtomator
04-04-2007, 03:47 AM
I wonder how many folks could have withstood the hatred, derision, contempt and venom that have been heaped on George W. Bush 24/7/365 by the demonic RATs and their media ass-kissers since he was chosen as the GOP candidate in 2000.

Frankly, what GWB has gone through with the Left pales in comparison to what Giuliani went through as Mayor of New York City.

But instead of appeasing the disingenuous and malicious attacks, as Bush has done for over six years now, Giuliani took the fight to the enemy - and won big. He could have remained Mayor until the day he died, if he wanted to, and in a city as overwhelmingly Democrat as NYC, that's absolutely amazing.

Democrats are a lot like Muslims. They respect only power and despise deference. The smell of weakness urges them on in their assault. Thus the deferential attitude of the administration is itself a major reason why things have come to this point. Sandy Berger gets a slap on the wrist, leftist demonstrations commit violence without consequence, Pelosi violates the Logan Act (as did a host of reps before her) with impunity, the NY Times blows national security secrets out of the water in wartime, Rep. Freezer Cash maintains his office, the Senate Dems conduct years of historically unique abuse of the filibuster, and so on and so forth and NOT ONE of them has met with any significant penalty for their actions. So why would they stop? They're winning, because they're the only ones trying to win. They escalate and escalate and the GOP de-escalates and de-escalates. Just watch Britain and Iran right now - Britain is the GOP and Iran is the Democrats. You and me are the hostages.

Republicans that aren't willing to go into a knock-down, drag-out, no-holds-barred fight to win it aren't doing themselves any favors, and they aren't doing us any favors, either. If Dems got punched in the face a few times they wouldn't be waking up every day eager to get into the ring.

And frankly, they didn't do themselves any favors at all by using the unified government we worked so hard for so long to give them in order to loot the treasury and vastly increase federal power (in ways that will surely be grossly abused by Democrats in the future - imagine Hillary with the powers the PATRIOT Act grants to the executive). By betraying the promises they made they undercut their own support going into the fight, and the Democrats have been pummelling them ever since.

Hard to feel sorry for the GOP after the way they behaved when they ran the show.

DoctorDoom
04-04-2007, 06:42 AM
Frankly, what GWB has gone through with the Left pales in comparison to what Giuliani went through as Mayor of New York City.That's extremely questionable. Rudy may have been detested in NYC, but where were the marches where leftist asswipes carried anti-G signs comparable to these?

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This is a microscopic example of the ongoing libeRAT campaign of personal destruction against the president. It is disingenuous to compare Guliani's difficulties as mayor with the rabid, hell-spawned loathing of Bush that began months before the 2000 elections anmd has not let up since then. It's tantamount to comparing a paper cut to being run through Saddam's shredder.

That aside, your other points are well said.

d'urville
04-04-2007, 06:43 AM
In two years, they're going have to find somebody new to focus their hatred on. The MSM will believe a high-level Al-queda operative over Bush:


WASHINGTON — Here's what the Bush administration has done to the values, traditions and honor of the United States of America: An accused terrorist claims he confessed to heinous crimes so that agents of the U.S. government would stop torturing him, and no one is shocked or even surprised. There's reason to believe, in fact, that what the suspect says about torture is probably true.

There's also reason to doubt that the suspect — Abd al-Rahim al-Nashiri, held in U.S. custody without charges for more than four years — is the Zelig-like innocent bystander he claims to be. But we can't be sure, because George W. Bush disgraced himself and his country by ordering extrajudicial kidnappings of war-on-terror suspects, indefinite secret detention, and interrogation by "alternative" methods that the civilized world calls torture.

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/opinion/2003647863_robinson03.html

More foaming-at-the-mouth dailykos rhetoric.

Let the Mexicans pray for him, he's their man.

You would think so. His new amnesty plan - now he calls it a "Z-visa":


President's "Z Visa" Trial Balloon Gives Amnesty to Illegals


Grassfire has obtained a copy of the outline of the new 'comprehensive immigration reform' proposal being developed behind closed doors by the Bush Administration and some Republicans in the Senate. This plan was (intentionally) leaked to the media.

The plan is an attempt to find middle ground that Republicans can support by increasing fines and fees for "undocumented workers" and creating another step on the path to citizenship for illegals. Unfortunately, this is still amnesty.

Click here to download the leaked outline of the latest Bush amnesty proposal (.pdf). (http://www.grassfire.org/42/whimmigration.pdf)

Summary Of Bush's Latest Amnesty Proposal:
1. Provides guaranteed three-step path to citizenship for 12-20 million illegals.
2. Immediately creates a legal status for 12-20 million illegals.
3. Allows current illegals to stay legally in our country indefinitely.
4. Does not require a "touch back" to obtain Z-visa (only for Green Card app).
5. Gives illegals healthcare/education benefits and back credit for Social Security wages.

http://www.firesociety.com/article/12134/

thoughtomator
04-04-2007, 09:02 AM
Giuliani had a lot more than mere words to deal with, he had politically motivated riots! Look up "Crown Heights". Everything they say about GWB, they'd said about Giuliani (it's not like the Left has had an original idea in the time in between). Racist, fascist, Hitler (actually Mussolini, an ethnic attack), you name it, they didn't just say it in the streets but also plastered it all over the papers.

Lazarus
04-04-2007, 10:09 AM
The left's open and vile level of bitter hatred for Bush started before he ever did anything of substance in the office... He has been their communal target to vent their rage over their complete loss of power in Washington - something the left has never experiwnced until now...

There is nothing rational or explainable about their hatred of him, because it is no more intense today than it was when he took the oath of office... Indeed it is utterly IRRATIONAL... Its is not a hatred based on what he has done, because it began before he had done anything... It is an insane hatred based on their loss of power...

It also indicates to the astute observer what degree of lunacy and radical policies we can expect them to initiate if and when they ever regain power... Pelosi's open attempt to undermine the President's diplomatic policy is a prime example...

They are like a mob getting drunk in order to build up enough preliminary courage to riot in the streets and burn a town to the ground... And that is what they will do next time - they will burn this nation to the ground... Not by mistake or out of hot, mindless emotion... Destruction of the United States we were born in is their ultimate goal - albeit private and unpublicized... I will not be suprised at all to see them make definite moves to suspend the constitution and bring about a socialist revolution...

All this venom directed irrationally at Bush is the Marxist mob, getting drunk and building their courage for the riot they have wanted for years...

Etaoin
04-04-2007, 07:51 PM
The issue here is NOT that Bush is a Republican, Conservative (which he definitely, is NOT) or even a RINO. The real issue is that Bush has an agenda which is not supported by any but the CFR and TRI-LATERALISTS.

His agenda is "Continental Government" which approximates the European Govenment. Admittedly, there is an agenda behind this support. There is also that which one might call, a Historical imperative toward this structure! This trend exists whether or not we approve. On any rational consideration , the sale of it is loaded with all of the "good" aspects but none of the negatives.

Any "meeting of the minds" between authoriatarinaism and any yearning of the people for a genuine representation of their beliefs and wishes falls in line between the tooth Fairy and pure fantasy
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Naturalized-Texan
04-04-2007, 08:07 PM
The real issue is that Bush has an agenda which is not supported by any but the CFR and TRI-LATERALISTS.
:hahaha: You're joking , of course. :hahaha: :rolleyes:

Etaoin
04-04-2007, 08:32 PM
:hahaha: You're joking , of course. :hahaha: :rolleyes:
Tex, you are a contemporary. You believe in what the Government does, (RETROACTIVELY). We have consistentaly disagreed, and without question, we will continue to do so at every level.

I can only assume that you were a Gov't Bureaucrat when I consider your support of their actions.

I AM, PROUDLY, A LIBERTARIAN who believes in the constitution rather than free POT. I think I prefer the pot, to your posts.

I cannot conceive a position on which we will agree. If such should occur, I would have to rely on Voltaire as my response. "anytime I find myself in the majority, I have to reexamine my position."

Naturalized-Texan
04-05-2007, 01:17 PM
Tex, you are a contemporary. You believe in what the Government does, (RETROACTIVELY). We have consistentaly disagreed, and without question, we will continue to do so at every level.
As long as you believe in wild conspiracy theories, we will continue to disagree.

I can only assume that you were a Gov't Bureaucrat when I consider your support of their actions.
You assume incorrectly. Bureaucrats can be, and often are, stupid, but that in no way supports the absurd claim that they are part of some wild conspiracy.

As Thomas Sowell wrote: "One of the reasons for conspiracy theories is an assumption that people in high places always know what they are doing. When they do something that makes no sense, devious reasons are imagined by conspiracy theorists, when in fact it may be due to plain old ignorance and incompetence."

I AM, PROUDLY, A LIBERTARIAN who believes in the constitution rather than free POT. I think I prefer the pot, to your posts.
Well, I have always tried to stay in the real world.

BTW, I am also a libertarian (small "l") on the order of Goldwater, Buckley, Reagan, Friedman, Sowell, Walter E. Williams, et al. Of course, none of them believed in any of those wild conspiracy theories, either.

I cannot conceive a position on which we will agree. If such should occur, I would have to rely on Voltaire as my response. "anytime I find myself in the majority, I have to reexamine my position."
See my first response above.

thoughtomator
04-05-2007, 01:20 PM
N-T, don't you find it odd at all that political elites on both sides of the aisle are eager to join this club? Why would so many of them participate unless something substantial was resulting from it?

Naturalized-Texan
04-05-2007, 02:39 PM
N-T, don't you find it odd at all that political elites on both sides of the aisle are eager to join this club? Why would so many of them participate unless something substantial was resulting from it?
What club? No one here has mentioned any club.

MrSanity
04-05-2007, 03:05 PM
I don't pray for my leaders very often. But that's my problem, not theirs.

Rhino
04-05-2007, 05:04 PM
I always get these leftists who dive into Bush hating tirades when they hear me comment on my disappointment with him, and then I have to stop them mid-rant and burst their bubble, "no, no, I dislike him for legitimate reasons like his border policy, not because I'm a mindless Bush-hating commie like yourself."

It almost makes me sad to see their faces as the spark of thinking they'd found a friend slowly fades.Sad? That would crack me up! :D

Rhino
04-05-2007, 05:07 PM
N-T, don't you find it odd at all that political elites on both sides of the aisle are eager to join this club? Why would so many of them participate unless something substantial was resulting from it?There is something resulting from it, or at least they think so. It's called vote pandering. And besides, it isn't all that odd. It's happened many times before. I will admit that Bush has had little success in getting consistent support from his own party. However, considering some of his positions, and some of their lack of a backbone and principles, it doesn't really surprise me.

thoughtomator
04-05-2007, 11:39 PM
A group like CFR is basically an establishment of the greater access to our representatives for some very unrepresentative interests.