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HomeschoolrsRUs
04-19-2007, 06:33 PM
Alec Baldwin's Threatening Message to Daughter - TMZ.com (http://www.tmz.com/2007/04/19/alec-baldwins-threatening-message-to-daughter/)

(Audio at link above)

An enraged Alec Baldwin unleashed a volcanic tirade of threats and insults on his 11-year-old daughter, Ireland, calling her a "thoughtless little pig," and bashing her mother Kim Basinger -- and TMZ has obtained the whole thing unfiltered and raw. And, we've learned, the tape could cost Baldwin his visitation rights.


And we should listen to THIS piece of CRAP when he spews about President Bush, the government, etc.?

This is shocking to me - - that he would talk to his OWN DAUGHTER this way! Imus's debacle PALES in comparison to this -- will we see it plastered all over the news? Yeah, right.

:flame:

Suzie
04-19-2007, 06:42 PM
But name calling is vogue now. You are just supposed to blurt them out for the heck of it ... any time ... any place. And it accomplishes so much.

I hope her mother can help her grow past him, I am sure her maturity level has already.

PrezLeefun
04-19-2007, 06:44 PM
:flame: He said that to his 11 year old daughter!!!!!!! OMG he should never be allowed to see her from accross the street again as far as I am concerened.

HomeschoolrsRUs
04-19-2007, 06:48 PM
But name calling is vogue now. You are just supposed to blurt them out for the heck of it ... any time ... any place. And it accomplishes so much.

I hope her mother can help her grow past him, I am sure her maturity level has already.

Did you listen to the audio? Not only did he call her names, he cussed at her -- verbally abused her -- throughout the whole message! Talk about doing emotional damage! The damage done by this tirade is miles worse than that of Imus's stupid comments. This was a father's rage directed toward his own flesh and blood, not a shock-jock spewing a little hate for ratings and response!

IMHO, his parental rights should be terminated.

noncom
04-19-2007, 06:56 PM
I might say an awful lot worse if she actually DID something that was bad. But saying crap like this because she doesn't want to talk to you?

Gosh, I can't for the life of me imagine what on earth might have caused her to feel like that in the first place! :question:


Alec Baldwin's spokesperson released the following statement to the TV show "EXTRA": -- The mother and her lawyer leaked this sealed material in violation of a court order
Baldwin's lawyer is saying the same thing, but this makes no sense. This isn't part of a deposition or any other kind of court proceeding or discovery. The recipients can legally do anything they want with a recording Baldwin made on their answering machine, and there is no reason any judge would order otherwise.

Suzie
04-19-2007, 07:00 PM
I think he's a nut. I always have. I think all those who try to sell themselves do shocking things for the press. Because apparently it's true that any press is good press in this country. And the worse things you do the more you sell. People never think about the children or families their stupidity might effect. Even their own. To be a child of someone famous means the actions of that person and how they treat and are treated is on display. Just look at all the media about some of the hottest stories, and think how many kids are behind them hearing it all. Granted it is worse when it comes from your own parent.

Maggie_T
04-19-2007, 07:44 PM
Why is this freak of nature still allowed to roam free? He's a danger to society.

I think it's high time this psycopath was taken away by the Men in White.

Lubbock
04-19-2007, 07:56 PM
I think you're wrong about that, noncom.

If the tape was sealed by a court order, it was definately a part of a court proceeding. My guess is, the tape was introduced into evidence in a "Suit Affecting The Parent-Child Relationship." This is a suit that is filed by one parent or the other in an attempt to limit or cease the visitation periods of one parent or the other, increase or decrease child support, or change the residency of a child.

I have every idea that the mother of the child filed the suit in an attempt to stop Baldwin's visitation because he was doing psychological damage to the child, and/or physical damage. I wouldn't put that past Baldwin. My guess is, the mother, through her lawyer, introduced the tape as evidence of abuse.

No doubt the proceedings were "sealed." Oklahoma used to automatically seal all proceedings that involved minors. That precludes a child digging up records when their grown and finding out what their parents fought about.

Juvenile criminal records are automatically sealed. It takes an act of Congress for one jurisdiction to learn what an individual did in another jurisdiction --even within the state. Forget state to state.

PrezLeefun
04-19-2007, 08:10 PM
He is disgusting. I dont care what she did to him.... she is 11 years old...and appearently he isnt even sure of that. What a great freakin' dad.

DoctorDoom
04-19-2007, 08:43 PM
Flashback to that egomaniacal asshole on another subject:

Conan O’Brien: "Before we leave, I gotta ask you. It’s no secret that you are very political. You are a very political person. It’s no secret that you have actually had some associations with the Clintons. That you’re a liberal man and I thought you know today, this is a historic day and you’re one of the most politically active actors out there. What do you think?"

Alec Baldwin: "I was in Africa. I go to Africa. I mean ladies and gentlemen I am in Africa. For three months I am in the bush and I come back. I come back here and I come back to what? I mean what is happening right now as we speak? Right now the Judiciary Committee, the President has an approval rating of 68 percent. The President is very popular and things are going pretty good and they are voting to impeach the President. They voted on one article of impeachment already. And I come back from Africa to stained dresses and cigars and this and impeachment. I am thinking to myself in other countries they are laughing at us twenty four hours a day and I’m thinking to myself if we were in other countries, we would all right now, all of us together, [starts to shout] all of us together would go down to Washington and we would stone Henry Hyde to death! We would stone him to death! [crowd cheers] Wait! Shut up! Shut up! No shut up! I’m not finished. We would stone Henry Hyde to death and we would go to their homes and we’d kill their wives and their children. We would kill their families. [stands up screaming] What is happening in this country? What is happening? UGHHH UGHHH!!!!""Stone Henry Hyde to Death!" (http://www.mediaresearch.org/cyberalerts/1998/cyb19981215.asp#5)

He's psychotic. He's a danger to his daughter.

PrezLeefun
04-19-2007, 09:00 PM
Doc....I think that was an act. His version of satire....Cho style.

Lubbock
04-19-2007, 09:18 PM
No, Prez. That was not an act.

It was not an act, or satire.

That was Alec Baldwin at his finest. Pure Alec Baldwin, being cheered on by an audience of mindless freaks.

Not an act. He meant every word of it.

DoctorDoom
04-19-2007, 09:39 PM
He claimed he was only joking. Libs always say that when they expose their hatred and savagery.

Beowulf
04-20-2007, 07:00 AM
There are some people who should NOT be parents. Alec Baldwin, my sister-in-law........

PrezLeefun
04-20-2007, 07:15 AM
No, Prez. That was not an act.

It was not an act, or satire.

That was Alec Baldwin at his finest. Pure Alec Baldwin, being cheered on by an audience of mindless freaks.

Not an act. He meant every word of it.
Dont get me wrong I think he's a crazed a-hole freak...but when you watch the clip its his version a sick joke.

Dowple
04-20-2007, 07:21 AM
Baldwin, in his tirade, says the little girl treated him like "shit". Sounds like a smart little girl to me.

MrSanity
04-20-2007, 07:40 AM
He's psychotic. He's a danger to his daughter.He's a danger to all of us. A Cho waiting to happen.

Rhino
04-20-2007, 09:20 AM
411: Caught on Tape: Alec Baldwin Calls Daughter a 'Rude, Thoughtless Pig'

Friday, April 20, 2007

By Roger Friedman

Actor Alec Baldwin may be finding himself in very big trouble this morning. I mean, big trouble.

Baldwin is caught on TMZ.com on an audiotape recording of a scalding message he left for his 12-year-old daughter Ireland.

Even though it’s obvious that Ireland’s mother, Kim Basinger, leaked the tape to the TMZ Web site — either Basinger or her divorce lawyers — it may not matter. Baldwin’s screamfest at his only child has already caused a family court judge in Los Angeles to suspend his visitation rights temporarily.

Baldwin and Basinger have been locked in a vicious custody and visitation battle over Ireland for years......http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,267302,00.html

It's not nice to piss off the judge in a custody dispute.

The_Elucidator
04-20-2007, 09:30 AM
He is probably too busy bashing conservatives to care for the family anyway.

Lubbock
04-20-2007, 09:41 AM
Baldwin's attorneys better get a prescription for some heavy meds and load The Toad up before the hearing. I mean, they better bring him into the courtroom practically comotose.

If a Family Court Judge has suspended his visitation rights ex parte, without a hearing, you can believe that Judge has his/her finger on the nuclear button.

If The Toad goes into the courtroom and displays any anger or disrespect, he could find himself a guest of the County.

dPrasse
04-20-2007, 10:57 AM
Anyone else hear the recorded phone message Alec Baldwin left his 11 yr ld ? Rush just played it ...

Sure hope he gets fired from NBC for what he said ... verbally attacking ones own kid like is worse than talking about nappy headed ho's ....

CountryGent
04-20-2007, 11:40 AM
The Moonbats will give this clown a free pass on this.....he is a big cash donor to their whining causes.

Rhino
04-20-2007, 11:48 AM
Threads merged and moved to News forum, because it isn't really a media event and people keep posting it elsewhere.

Suzie
04-20-2007, 12:03 PM
I tried rounding some of the posts up. But it kept coming back. :lol:

Rhino
04-20-2007, 12:16 PM
I never thought to look in Media Events, and dPrasse probably didn't either.

dPrasse
04-20-2007, 12:30 PM
Nope , my apologies ...

posters like me give the Mods something to do :D

Suzie
04-20-2007, 12:34 PM
Homes just knows how these kind of things turn into media events. :) We haven't had this much display of insanity since Britney shaved her head. :lol:

Maggie_T
04-20-2007, 01:41 PM
Gosh, I can't for the life of me imagine what on earth might have caused her to feel like that in the first place! :question:


She humiliated him. :rolleyes: This is all about Alec, don't you know. For all he knew, his daughter could be sick, or unconscious, or something, that's why she didn't answer the phone. But the first thought that came to his mind was ... himself. My mother would have been in tears, praying that I was safe. Not Alec. He was too upset because he was humiliated. Because she made him make an ass of himself. As if he needed help with that.

Also, this A-Hole is in the middle of a bitter custody battle. A CUSTODY battle, FCOL. And he leaves that threatening message on his daughter's cell phone?! I told you he didn't need anyone's help to make an ass of himself! Kim Bassinger must be making copies of that message like mad. Good for her!

BTW, how many carbon credits should he get for flying across the country to further harass his 11 year-old daughter?

Let's ask Al Gore, shall we.

Rhino
04-20-2007, 01:43 PM
I got dibs on Kim.

CountryGent
04-20-2007, 01:48 PM
Typical Moonbat response from Baldwin.....He blames Basinger for making his behavior known to the public at large by releasing the audio tapes of him verbally abusing an 11 year old child.

A real pillar of the Liberal Community I must say....:rolleyes:

thoughtomator
04-20-2007, 01:51 PM
If he was in jail for making terroristic threats against Henry Hyde, as he should have been, this would never have happened.

Lazarus
04-20-2007, 02:19 PM
I got dibs on Kim.Keep your dibs to yourself, young man!!!:tongue:

Lazarus
04-20-2007, 02:23 PM
Homes just knows how these kind of things turn into media events. :) We haven't had this much display of insanity since Britney shaved her head. :lol:Wouldnt it be cool if someone put together a montage of wacky liberal and celebrity moments - Britney's head, Howie's maniacal scream, Alex's naughty phone call - and dont forget, "I didnt have sex with that women..." That's the kind of thing we used to see on the Rush limbaugh TV show... :biggrin:

Lazarus
04-20-2007, 02:31 PM
She humiliated him. :rolleyes: This is all about Alec, don't you know. For all he knew, his daughter could be sick, or unconscious, or something, that's why she didn't answer the phone. But the first thought that came to his mind was ... himself...Precisely my thoughts when I heard it on the radio...

And even she wasn't sick or unconscious or (fill in the blank), she is, afterall, 12 years old... Somehow this was some shocking suprise that a 12 yo girl didnt remember to have her phone turned on and wait patiently like an obedient hound for her precious daddy's phone call?

She's 12 years old, Alex... How old are you? 9?........ 6?......... 3?........ Are your pampers in need of changing?

Alex Baldwin is a laboratory specimen of a human being who has become so self-absorbed that he has lost touch with reality... He has the Elvis syndrome - He has begun to believe his own BS...

noncom
04-20-2007, 03:50 PM
She's 12 years old, Alex... How old are you? 9?........ 6?......... 3?........ Are your pampers in need of changing?
That's what I was thinking when I heard it: he doesn't just sound like a bad father. He doesn't even sound like a father at all. He's more like a pernicious kid brother whining because his older sister outgrew him and got sick of putting up with his tantrums.

MrSanity
04-20-2007, 04:04 PM
Why is this freak of nature still allowed to roam free? He's a danger to society.

I think it's high time this psycopath was taken away by the Men in White.The Klan?

PrezLeefun
04-20-2007, 04:29 PM
The Klan?
LMAO:rotflmbo:

They'll show him what being a democrat is really about.

Maggie_T
04-20-2007, 04:33 PM
The Klan?


Anyone, I'm not particular. Just as long as he ends up in a padded cell, where he belongs.

DeclinetoState
04-20-2007, 05:21 PM
Who named the kid Ireland? I guess she should consider herself lucky she wasn't named Turkey.

As for Alec, I think he's tried to apologize and say that he didn't really mean what he said--presumably like he didn't mean it when he said he'd leave the country if Bush got elected.

DoctorDoom
04-20-2007, 05:40 PM
Kim Basinger must be making copies of that message like mad. Good for her!Once it's posted on the Net, there's no stopping it. Alec has just committed a career-damaging faux pas. And I hope it sinks the bastard into oblivion.

Lubbock
04-20-2007, 06:39 PM
Career damaging, Doc?

Nah!

He could be found in bed with a live boy or a dead woman and his stock would go up in Hollywierd by leaps and bounds.

You know how the left is.

praizer
04-20-2007, 07:17 PM
Time to come clean on your promise of leaving the USA if George Bush won the presidency Alec ....I will help you pack along with your other whacked out libs=haters...the lot of ya!!!!!Its over due:biggrin:

S-T
04-21-2007, 02:05 PM
You're worthress, Arek Barwin!

http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j159/conservatibbs/lonely.jpg

Pennville_Bill
04-21-2007, 02:52 PM
Alec Baldwin needs flushed.................

dPrasse
04-21-2007, 04:16 PM
Sounds just like Peach's ex .... we put up with the same stuff ....

Incident_command
04-21-2007, 05:34 PM
Sorry to hear that, for the both of you. Baldwin is a jerk, he always has been. His wife is just as bad. This poor kid has nowhere to turn.
As for his career I'm sure this wont effect it one bit. Libs are not and have never been about substance. Its getting the big lies out and who can do it best. Baldwin gets a pass.

Lubbock
04-21-2007, 06:04 PM
I believe that it's entirely possible that Baldwin will go off his nut someday and kill someone.

His rantings at the daughter reminds me of Betty Broderick. I think Baldwin is capable of going off just like she did.

DesertFox
04-21-2007, 07:54 PM
Alec Baldwin sucks camel cocks for breakfast. When speaking he spews camel cum on his listeners. For lunch he eats giraffe dung sandwiches. When speaking he spews giraffe shit on his listeners. For dinner he eats raw ostrich testes. When speaking he spews ostrich semen on his listeners.

When Baldwin spews, people grimace and move toward the exits.

Incident_command
04-21-2007, 08:13 PM
Alec Baldwin sucks camel cocks for breakfast. When speaking he spews camel cum on his listeners. For lunch he eats giraffe dung sandwiches. When speaking he spews giraffe shit on his listeners. For dinner he eats raw ostrich testes. When speaking he spews ostrich semen on his listeners.
.

I've said that many times myself.

BuckeyeMike
04-21-2007, 11:06 PM
DAMN DF I was gonna say that!

Pennville_Bill
04-22-2007, 12:11 AM
Disgustingly well said DF...............

Republican_Legion
04-22-2007, 12:34 PM
While Alec Baldwin is out criticising the president....his younger brother is hanging out with the president and republicans. Possibly Alec's extremism also had an effect on Stephen Baldwin joining Republicans.


In contrast to his brothers Alec (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alec_Baldwin) and William (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Baldwin), who are noted Democrats (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democratic_Party_%28United_States%29) and avid Bush (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/President_George_W._Bush) opponents, Stephen is a Bush supporter.

Baldwin makes occasional appearances with Republican political figures and, in April 2007, was a special White House (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_House) guest for the annual White House Egg Roll (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=White_House_Egg_Roll&action=edit).<SUP class=reference id=_ref-0>[1] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stephen_Baldwin#_note-0)</SUP>
In his book Baldwin expressed the opinion that "You (Bono (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bono)) would do far more good if you just preached the gospel of Jesus rather than trying to get rid of Third World (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Third_World) debt."

He currently resides in the village of Nyack (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nyack), New York (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_York), with his wife, Kennya, and their family. In 2006, he launched a campaign to prevent an adult bookstore (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adult_bookstore) from opening on the outskirts of the village<SUP class=reference id=_ref-1>[2] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stephen_Baldwin#_note-1)</SUP>. After mobilizing much of the county's religious base to the cause, Baldwin lent his support to a petition filed in New York Supreme Court (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_York_Supreme_Court) by a group calling itself the Catholic Citizenship, and succeeded in quashing the store. In 2006 and 2007 he has made calls to the radio talk show Lionel (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lionel_%28radio%29), the host of which advocates a skeptical view of religion, to tell his story and promote his religious beliefs.



In 2001 and 2002, he was a frequent caller into "The Ron and Fez (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ron_and_Fez) Show" before they moved from New York City (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_York_City) to Washington D.C. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Washington_D.C.) He was baptized (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baptism) a Roman Catholic (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roman_Catholic), but became a born-again Christian (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Born-again_Christian) shortly after the 9/11 attacks (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/September_11%2C_2001_attacks). Since converting he is on a mission to evangelize the youth of the nation through projects such as The Breakthrough Ministry (http://www.globalbtm.com/). He talks frequently about his conversion experience, which involved a middle-aged Brazilian (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brazil) housekeeper.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stephen_Baldwin


Than there is Daniel Baldwin who hijacked and stole a car from OrangeCounty and was later arrested. He has commited various acts of public exposure, threats, etc.


In 1998, Baldwin was found running naked through the halls of New York's Plaza Hotel, and arrested for possession of cocaine. He pled guilty to disorderly conduct and was sentenced to three months in drug rehab. He later told People magazine he had been battling a cocaine addiction since 1989. [2] (http://www.nndb.com/people/570/000025495/).
On April 22 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/April_22), 2006 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2006), Baldwin was arrested after police received a call that a woman had been threatened at the Ocean Park Motel in Santa Monica (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Santa_Monica%2C_California).[3] (http://www.glitteratigossip.com/glitterati/2006/04/daniel_baldwin_.html) Entertainment media site TMZ (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TMZ.com) reported that police uncovered drug paraphernalia and a small amount of cocaine in a room in the motel and arrested two men, one of whom was Baldwin. Authorities subsequently declined to press charges.

Baldwin was arrested on July 19 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/July_19), 2006 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2006), after he crashed his Ford Thunderbird (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_Thunderbird) into two cars parked on a Los Angeles street. According to the police, Baldwin ran a red light after weaving through the traffic in West LA just before 1 pm. He then crashed his rented Ford Thunderbird into two parked cars while going 80 mph in a 35 mph zone. Jason Lee, a spokesperson for the Los Angeles police, said "The Thunderbird pushed one of the vehicles about 20 feet, and that was a Hummer." Police say Baldwin was driving with a suspended license, at the time of the crash. He was transferred to UCLA (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UCLA) Medical Center with back and neck injuries, but did not appear to be seriously hurt. [4] (http://www.eonline.com/News/Items/0,1,19543,00.html?fdnews)

In 2006 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2006_in_music), rock band Ded Sexi released a song entitled "Lesser of the Baldwins." In August 2006, popular entertainment website www.TMZ.com (http://www.TMZ.com) referenced the Ded Sexi song in conjunction with an article on Baldwin.

On November 7 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/November_7), 2006 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2006), Baldwin was arrested in Santa Monica, CA, after allegedly stealing a white GMC (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_Motors) Yukon SUV, according to TMZ.com. The actor was taken to jail and booked for investigation of grand theft auto. Bail was set at $20,000. "The car belongs to an acquaintance of Mr. Baldwin, but he had no permission to take it," said Jim Amormino, a spokesman for the Orange County sheriff's department. [5] (http://www.tmz.com/2006/11/08/baldwin-bro-busted-again/)[6] (http://www.thesmokinggun.com/mugshots/baldwinmug1.html)

On February 6, 2007, an arrest warrant was issued for Baldwin in Newport Beach (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newport_Beach), CA, by the Orange County Superior Court for his failure to show up for an arraignment stemming from an auto-theft charge. [7] (http://cbs2.com/local/local_story_037162510.html) At the time, Baldwin was in Detroit (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Detroit), Michigan filming a movie. He turned himself into police on February 20 and pleaded not guilty to his charges. He remains free on bail.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daniel_Baldwin

If Daniel is capable of autotheft and public exposure, then it is very likely Alec is capable of murder.

Maggie_T
04-22-2007, 12:56 PM
Alec Baldwin sucks camel cocks for breakfast. When speaking he spews camel cum on his listeners. For lunch he eats giraffe dung sandwiches. When speaking he spews giraffe shit on his listeners. For dinner he eats raw ostrich testes. When speaking he spews ostrich semen on his listeners.

When Baldwin spews, people grimace and move toward the exits.


:eek: :eek: :eek:

Er, Fox, my friend. Could we try to keep it clean? :(

Maggie_T
04-22-2007, 12:59 PM
The Moonbats will give this clown a free pass on this.....he is a big cash donor to their whining causes.




They do. On our local website, liberals are already hemming and hawing and saying that it's the daughter's fault. She should have kept the phone on and answered his calls.

No, I'm not making it up.

Incident_command
04-22-2007, 01:20 PM
:eek: :eek: :eek:

Er, Fox, my friend. Could we try to keep it clean? :(

Considering who he was talking about I thought the man used a good bit of restraint.
:biggrin:

DesertFox
04-22-2007, 02:17 PM
Er, Fox, my friend. Could we try to keep it clean? Okay. Lemme try again.

Alec Baldwin sucks freshly-washed camel cocks for breakfast. When speaking he spews camel cum on his listeners, but no prollem cuz it's clean. For lunch he eats carefully nuked giraffe dung sandwiches. When speaking he spews giraffe shit on his listeners, but no prollem cuz the microwaves kill all the viri and bacteria. For dinner he eats disinfected raw ostrich testes. When speaking he spews ostrich semen on his listeners, but no prollem cuz all the bad things have been disinfected.

More better? :D

Rhino
04-24-2007, 11:56 AM
Kim Basinger Denies Leaking Alec Baldwin's 'Thoughtless Little Pig' Voicemail to Daughter to Press

Tuesday, April 24, 2007

LOS ANGELES — Kim Basinger denies she leaked a voicemail in which her ex-husband, Alec Baldwin, calls their 11-year-old daughter a "rude, thoughtless little pig."

"Kim Basinger did not release the voicemail. Additionally, the voicemail was not sealed under a court order," said a statement released by the actress's publicist, Annett Wolf, on Monday.

Baldwin left a voicemail lambasting his daughter, Ireland, for failing to answer the telephone for a prearranged call......http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,268022,00.html

bannerman
04-24-2007, 12:30 PM
with pukes like alec...it's ALL about THEM

how many times did he use the words ME and I during that breif recording?

hes a self absorbed POS, whos likely less emotionally mature than his poor kid