The Farce Of The War On Drugs

[libertyman]

By Frosty Wooldridge
April 30, 2007
NewsWithViews.com


My brother Howard Wooldridge served as a decorated police officer and detective in Lansing, Michigan for 18 years. During that time, he collared killers, drunk drivers, child molesters, rapists, wife beaters and drug dealers. What he learned launched him on a crusade to stop the federal government’s useless 35 year “War on Drugs.”

My brother stands so passionate about his cause that he rode his horse Misty 3,300 miles coast to coast across America in 2005. To gain attention, his sweat-stained T-shirt read, “Cops Say Legalize Drugs: Ask Me Why.”
The drug war costs American taxpayers $70 billion a year and over the past 35 years, costs approach a trillion dollars. Result? Drugs remain CHEAPER and MORE available than 35 years ago.

“The war on drugs,” said Howard Wooldridge, one of the founders of Law Enforcement Against Prohibition at www.leap.cc (http://www.leap.cc/). “How is that working for us in America? Is it reducing crime? Is it reducing rates of death and disease? Is it effective in keeping drugs and drug dealers away from our children? Is it making America safer and more prosperous? As my profession chases drugs, what are we missing? These are important questions as this prohibition approach costs us taxpayers some 70 billion dollars this year.” :flame:

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[Wolfcounsel]

Never mind the dealers, the pushers, the smugglers. Shoot the users. One bullet through the medulla oblongata, and a battle is won. keep it up. Who wants to be the next user? You? Or you there?

[nene]

Nope, shoot the pushers and everyone else involved in the manufacturing, distribution, and selling of illegal drugs.

Publicly flog the users to such an extent that thirty years from now they'll still wake up in a cold sweat recollecting the whipping they received three decades prior.

[DesertFox]

Yep. The reason nothing deters the bastards is because nobody's using real deterrents on them. Up the ante. Put them in stocks and let people throw rocks at their bleeding heads and faces. Haul out the guillotine and separate some heads from some shoulders.

Make punishment drastic and, more important, real, and the shit will stop quick.

[libertyman]

Make punishment drastic and, more important, real, and the shit will stop quick.

No it won't, not even close....you can't stop us. The demand is too high for law enforcement to make even a dent in usage. :thumb:

[DesertFox]

Yeah, because there's no punishment worthy of the name. If you knew your head would come off for using the shit, you wouldn't use it.

[Suzie]

You know, someone could tell me drugs are cheaper and more available and how would I know? I have never taken an illegal drug in my life, I don't even like to take the legal ones if I can avoid it. They sure aren't "cheaper" I took a prescription sinus medicine years ago till the cost became outrageous. Now I suffer thru or take a over the counter thing if it's unbearable. In my years of forum use I have found most of the pro drug people can find a story to say just about anything they want about drugs from someone hoping the government will make it easier for them to destroy themselves, the problem is people who don't take them don't really worry too much about the things drug users do. But we have seen what it does, sometimes to people we know ... and that's all we need to tell us this crap isn't good for anything and endorsing the use with an approving law sure isn't going to improve things. If you look at what the druggies addicted because of injury after the Civil War did to society I can't see why anyone would want to go back to that. It's part of why we have many of the laws in the first place.

[DesertFox]

Well said, Sooz.

However, the real problem is the idea that society owes it to people to save them from themselves. If druggers were allowed to die on the corner, nodding off and never waking up, so that kids on the way to school had to walk around the stinking corpses, you can bet those kids would never mess with the stuff.

Instead, the govt hands out clean needles. Talk about enablers.

[Suzie]

True. And they can do what they want to themselves, but when they start stealing from the rest of us to get more and abusing or killing their families because they don't know what the hell they are doing. Then the rest of us have a right to not want to put up with their crap. Like I said ... the reason the laws came to be in the first place. If they won't let us shoot them without locking us up then lock them up. As long as they are staying away from me and my family either way will work. They don't do that enough though, and all this story tells me is they are spending money on the wrong things. Lock them up and keep them there or make an example out of them in a better way and this crap will stop. I do agree they need to change what they are doing, but my ideas don't include making it legal.

[Lubbock]

If there's one thing in the world I hate more than drugs, it's the damned fool druggies who brag about using.

Stupid is as stupid does.

Something is terribly wrong with a person who can't face up to life without the aid of an illegal drug as a crutch.

Sick, sad and stupid.

[noncom]

If there's one thing in the world I hate more than drugs, it's the damned fool druggies who brag about using.
Nobody would ever admit, let alone brag about, drug use if he hadn't been told a million times by the media to consider it "glamorous." Like Adam Corrolla says about the brain-damaged feebs who brag that they "party like rock stars:"

"The only cool part about being a rock star is actually being a rock star. The sitting around and getting stoned part is just kind of pathetic."

[DoctorDoom]

Every time some weeder wails that the WoD isn't working, I demand of them, "Prove it!" They must have some hard evidence that there is no difference between a society WITH the WoD and WITHOUT the WoD.

The only way they can reach a scientifically valid conclusion is to have control groups for both situations. So where are they? Where are the studies that demonstrate objectively and statistically that the US (not some European shithole) drug situation with the WoD in effect is the same as it would be if it did not exist.

Thusfar not one of them has dared to address that matter. They either ignore the challenge or chant their mantras loudly so that they won't hear people trying to reason with them.

The druggies' choir:

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No it won't, not even close....you can't stop us.One effect of drug abuse is damage to the brain to the extent that it resorts to childish defiance rather than logical, rational debate. "You can't STOP me! You can't tell ME what to do! So there! Nyah nyah nyah nyah!"

In fact, you (the collective "you") CAN be stopped. And when it happens, you won't have a word of argument in your favor. You KNOW it is illegal, and you willfully defy the law in order to pretend that you're cool and "with it" by sucking psychoactive chemicals into your bodies. That makes you criminals. If you are apprehended in the commission of the crime, accept the consequences.

We've been down this road before with weed freaks. They're as predictable as beer farts, and they are uniformly incapable of presenting a reasoned argument in defense of their habit.

So, here's yet another opportunity for our potheads: provide us with a solid, logical, well-reasoned argument that justifies damaging one's brain in the pursuit of a transitory illusion of pleasure.

I for one don't find the slightest need to "enhance" my life with that crap. I'm quite happily sober and straight. God is all I need. Ingesting pollutants to get through a day is the sad, sorry way of losers.

But I'm willing to consider arguments in defense of drug use, if anyone is up to presenting them.

[The_Elucidator]

I for one don't find the slightest need to "enhance" my life with that crap. I'm quite happily sober and straight. God is all I need. Ingesting pollutants to get through a day is the sad, sorry way of losers.

But I'm willing to consider arguments in defense of drug use, if anyone is up to presenting them.

If ones life is so pathetic that "Illegal" drug usage is required to get through the day, or to enhance ones life, there are some serious issues that need to be resolved!

It's ironic that those that promote a little pot usage, which in their mind should be legal, have a serious problem with open borders, which in some folks mind, should be legal.

Doc, there is NO, I repeat NO, defense for illegal drug use. ZERO, ZIP, ZILCH AND NADA!!! And I have ZERO, ZIP, ZILCH and NADA respect for those who do!

You wanna bounce off the walls, drink a damn espresso!

You wanna be in a stupor, drink a 5th of Jack!

BOTH ARE LEGAL!!!

To paraphrase one of my old time favorite songs: Help yourself to some, but obey the law; if you drink don't drive do the watermelon crawl!

[HomeschoolrsRUs]

To paraphrase one of my old time favorite songs: Help yourself to some, but obey the law; if you drink don't drive do the watermelon crawl!

That's my city's theme song, Luc! We have an annual Watermelon Festival, and of course that song is it's anthem, http://www.freeconservatives.com/vb/images/icons/icon7.gif .


Sorry, return you to your regularly scheduled druggie debate, :smirky:

[Eagle1]

the libertarian points might sway me, but there are so many inncocents hurt and killed by drugs and their consequences that any argument of personal freedom is moot

how many crack babies do there have to be before it is wrong, how many drug wars, how many strung out users robbing stores for $40, how many kids need to lose their "parents"???

every law is a legislation of morality, and this one is not going to move one inch

[Pennville_Bill]

Never mind the dealers, the pushers, the smugglers. Shoot the users. One bullet through the medulla oblongata, and a battle is won. keep it up. Who wants to be the next user? You? Or you there?

:biggrin:

Although you're method is a tad bit on the dire side, I think you and other here are on the right track. The drug trade is just that - trade! And as such it's dependent on the laws of supply and demand. As long as there are users, there will be a demand; and as long as there is a demand, somebody's gonna be a supplier (dealer). It's just that simple.

Until the WoD goes after BOTH the users and the dealers, instead of just trying to to interdict the supply side of the equation, the drug trade is going to flourish. And in that respect, The_Elucidator's brother is correct, right now we're just throwing money down a hole.............

Eliminate the demand, and the supply will dwindle to a point where it can for all practical purposes be eradicated. 'Til then, the WoD will remain just a lot of slobbering and wasted effort IMHO...........

[Suzie]

We could start making it available by prescription then no one could afford it. :lol:The manufactures usually are smart enough not to actually use the stuff ... unless they are so far in the gutter they have learned to make meth themselves, so they would probably start selling to Merck. ;)

[Naturalized-Texan]

If moonbat libertarians want to fry their brains with drugs, who are we to try to stop them. However, we should do everything in our power to prevent those moonbats from attaining their goal of frying the brains of the rest of us.

Oops! All evidence points to the fact that the brains of libertarians have already been fried. That's why they are moonbats.

[Lubbock]

. . . Shoot the users. One bullet through the medulla oblongata . . .

Wait one minute, Wolfie. Hold the weddin'.

Weren't you the one who was going to have me impeached for pulling drunk drivers out of cars and shooting them on the spot?

[Wolfcounsel]

"Wait one minute, Wolfie. Hold the weddin'.

Weren't you the one who was going to have me impeached for pulling drunk drivers out of cars and shooting them on the spot?" --Lubbock

Yes. Alcohol is legal. If it were illegal, yes, shoot them. If it is legal and they kill someone while drunk, shoot them. If it is legal and they haven't hurt or killed anyone, whack their peepees good. Any other questions?

--from Wolf Counsel's Survival Manual

I have a question. What in the heck is 547470, after my quote?








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[DoctorDoom]

I have a question. What in the heck is 547470, after my quote?It's the board's message number. It can appear if the http://www.freeconservatives.com/vb/images/white/buttons/quote.gif button is used, and the quote code isn't properly closed, as in Lubbock's post.

If you hover the mouse pointer over a http://www.freeconservatives.com/vb/images/white/buttons/viewpost.gif graphic, you'll see numbers like that in the pop-up (if your browser is set to allow it).

Editing the second quote to [/quote] will correct it.

[Wolfcounsel]

Got it. By coincidence, those are key years in my life also.