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Wyatt_Junker
05-07-2007, 11:59 PM
Watch this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tyn0ongj0F8). Now multiply it a hundred times across Europe.

libertyman
05-08-2007, 12:39 AM
This is terrible! But did anuyone read the comments made after the video? It looks like SOME people are able to get it. One person said that the UK of Winston Churchill is history......

Gonzo67
05-08-2007, 03:22 AM
Have a look at this one HERE (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZwMwJAorMG0&NR=1).

And HERE (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9x5K60u9_84&mode=related&search=).

There you go, for all of you who still like to use that bullshit phrase "Moderate Muslim".

Wolfcounsel
05-08-2007, 06:44 AM
"I only care what Allah and his messenger say. Can't you get that through your thick skull?" --the sand monkey in Gonzo's second link

The only moderate sand monkey is a dead sand monkey, or a convert who has not harmed or killed any innocent.

CountryGent
05-08-2007, 07:23 AM
What we see happening in Europe with these camel humpers will soon be seen right here in the USA. As soon as the Muslims and the Leftist Moonbats feel they are powerful enough the jihad here will begin in earnest.

Keep your guns clean and your ammo dry folks. These bastards will have no mercy and neither should we when the shit hits the fan.

Wyatt_Junker
05-08-2007, 09:51 AM
1) Jack Straw is assailed for speaking the truth & saying that the burka cuts off social dialogue and shuts down human interaction.

2) A Pakistani man says that Jack Straw is not being very inclusive with that statement.

See how quickly muslims have learned stockphrase liberal dogma to use as weapons for continued balkanization? Liberals have made it convenient for them by giving them protected minority class status which carries with it all the entitlement bennies of victimhood. When one can buy into the myth of their aggrieved status, then comes justification for all kinds of evil and selfish behavior. Whether its illegal aliens marching on Cesar Chavez day demanding Amercan citizenship or blacks their reparations, its the same thing; muslims blowing people up because they are 'victims' of the world. When you remind them that Tibetans aren't blowing up Chinamen nor are Sudanese people gangraping the Janjaweed, they don't have an answer.

And the most impressive thing about muslim immigrant takeovers is their shameless sense of entitlement on host countries, the way they use the taquiya(the lie) as a way to gain a foothold. And the host countries are not guilt-free. They are the enablers of immigrant ghettos by not demanding they earn their own way and subsidize terror through welfare.

Note that the Pakistani man critiques Jack Straw for not being 'very inclusive' by saying that the burka coldly isolates genders and communities against each other. That is an unarguably true statement by Jack Straw. Yet the Pakistani man says that Jack Straw is not being inclusive, when in fact, the burka itself is not being inclusive. But for the Pakistani man, the burka is not up for question. It is not up for discussion. Only British norms are. Not muslims norms.

This is a small example of how the muslim mind works. It is simply incapable of self-criticism. The only criticism comes from defectors or outsiders. And even more amazing is the way these cultures deny and lie their way through life. Look at the Palestinians. Or the Egyptians. Or their 'ministers of information' that spin yarns. I think it goes back to the bedouin nature of how gypsy cultures endured in the bartering days of early market culture. They had to lie by trade. And so gypsies became really good at saying one thing and doing another. They couldn't critique themselves because to do so meant starvation and so this is about survival for them, but it is more than that. It is about unquestioningly imposing their culture on atheist countries with dying cultures. Yes, in the end it comes back to God and which culture believes in theirs more. Right now, the muslims do and they will make Europe submit.

God is about faith. It asks the question, 'what do you believe?' If you don't have an answer, the barbarians will answer that question for you. Europe has lost its center because atheism has been its cultural main course now for the last 35 years. The muslims are simply occupying a void and they will lie, cheat and steal to take it. Jack Straw is only one man. Where are the others like him?

Tombstone
05-08-2007, 09:58 AM
Kick their friggin' muslim asses. What's happening to our British counterparts? They're caving to political correctness and it's going to bite them in the ass.

CountryGent
05-08-2007, 10:01 AM
Not just "going to"......the ass biting has been underway for the past several years now. Scroo em.....the dumbass Limeys took all the guns from their citizens not realizing that trouble comes on a fast camel. ASSHATS.

Gonzo67
05-08-2007, 12:15 PM
The only moderate sand monkey is a dead sand monkey, or a convert who has not harmed or killed any innocent.


That's the problem. Any muslim who attends Mosq, hurts an innocent. Any muslim that furthers the muslim was of life in any way, hurts an innocent.

They ALL hurt the innocent by perpetuating that culture. They bring it here, and I don't care if they are the nicest person on the block, and I don't care if they bring old lady Semple a bag of groceries every week, they have the door held wide open for the rest of the Muslim Culture to come streaming in.

Every time ANY muslim sets up residence in your neighborhood, you've just been knocked down a couple rungs on the ladder. And when one comes, more will follow.

So you keep using the phrase "Moderate Muslim". I hope your faith is really strong boys and girls. Because theirs is. And if your faith is not equal to theirs or more, you're going to loose your religion. You're going to be forced to submit or die.

Yeah, you keep believing in your "Moderate Muslim". With any luck, you'll wake up before it's too late. At least, I hope you do.... for your sake.

Tombstone
05-08-2007, 12:16 PM
There is no such thing as a MODERATE MUSLIM.

Wolfcounsel
05-08-2007, 12:36 PM
"Yeah, you keep believing in your "Moderate Muslim". With any luck, you'll wake up before it's too late. At least, I hope you do.... for your sake." --Gonzo67

I hope "you" is the general "you", because I don't have a turd in my pocket.:evilgrin:


Allah's butt sucks buttermilk!<!-- / message --><!-- sig -->

Gonzo67
05-08-2007, 12:43 PM
Yes Wolf... "You" was not referring to YOU in particular. It was meant to indicate anyone that believes in the myth of the "moderate muslim".

Gonzo67
05-08-2007, 12:49 PM
MYTHICAL CREATURES

Unicorn
Dragon
Bigfoot
Yetti
Loch Ness Monster
Ogopogo
Centaur
Intelligent Liberal
Moderate Muslim

I'm sure I've forgotten a few.

CONSERVATIVE HERO
05-09-2007, 03:32 AM
England is done (as is probably all of Europe, and we're not very far behind). This will continue until they're firmly clamped under the boot of sharia law.

Why?

For decades the malignant marxist ideology has been eroding the English culture (one of its goals being the destruction of a society's "ruggedness") to the point there's really nothing left of it. The English people are clearly castrated. This is conspicuously illustrated by the video. Simply observe the fact that most won't even passionately speak out against this invasion much less confront those involved. The people interviewed come across as completely impotent, their commentary little better than apathetic whining, and conveys a collective mentality of utter obliviousness to the implications of this cultural trend for their nation. Take for instance that they request (that's right, request, as opposed to force) that the muslims' signs be printed in English. The invaders simply refuse to comply. Why should they? What will the English do if they don't? Request with a "pretty please" next time?

The English are essentially doing nothing less than lubing their a-holes and bending over for the invaders, literally becoming the architects of their future subjugation, as seen with the use of "turkish" designs in new homes (this absolutely disgusting display of appeasement is a symbolic white flag and is to the muslims a sign of weakness/cowardice). Not only are they not resisting the invasion, they're modifying every aspect of their lives to make the invaders feel more at home during their ongoing conquest of their nation.

(How eff'in dumb can you honestly be to design homes with "turkish" decoration and then be puzzled as to why whites aren't interested? English whites aren't turkish jackasses, and using that theme for decoration doesn't promote "multi-culturalism," it promotes turkish culture. Just one more example of the lengths to which they'll go, in their delusional quest to commit cultural suicide, to please their new masters.)

Even if the English had any fight left in them, many wouldn't know for what exactly to fight at this point, as their culture has been almost utterly obscured if not forever lost in the minds of the youth. Ceaseless tolerance, diversity, and multi-culturalism propaganda campaigns will not only have resulted in significant cultural erosion, but will even leave many believing that accepting this invasion is their culture. Even those who retain knowledge of their nation's traditional culture will sit by and willingly surrender it, having been made (by the shame campaigns) to believe it's oppressive, evil, and unjust by its endless villification. A people made ashamed of their nation, culture, and history in this manner are effectively ideologically expatriated and unwilling to fight for any of the above.

Who would fight for what they've been taught is evil, oppressive, and unjust by the public indoctrination system for the bulk of their learning period in life? On average most children spend their life from 5-22 yrs old being taught in the marxist propaganda machines to hate capitalism, patriarchy, masculinity, national sovereignty, Christianity and all the values thereof, etc., etc. (Basically everything upon which America was founded.) And this isn't even accounting for other factors like a pop culture, media, and entertainment industry bombarding them just as relentlessly with the same message every second they're out of school.

The same scheme is being orchestrated here (though it's not as far along as of yet). Our traditional values are being erased over time as well and at the hands of the same culprit agenda. With each successive generation learning a PC history more drastically revised, skewed, and distorted than the generation prior, the culture upon which the country was founded becomes more and more obscure, alien, and even threatening to the average citizen.

It won't be much longer before the erosion process makes reversal impossible. The goal is to erase our nation's collective historical and cultural identity. Overwhelmingly emphasis is placed on being modern, progressive, and accepting of that which is drastically diffferent. We're constantly being pushed to recreate ourselves culturally and ideologically through the traditional being portrayed as inferior and obselete. It's purpose is to shatter all cultural or historical cohesion. Make people so drastically varied from person to person in lifestyle and beliefs that a cultural restoration movement becomes impossible to even form much less pursue.

Through the diversity, tolerance, and multi-culturalism campaigns we'll be reduced to a terminally fractured society with no clearly defined or consistent historical or cultural foundation. How could we fight for the restoration of our culture when no handful of us will share the same culture? How could we fight for the restoration of traditional values when the vast majority of citizens have no knowledge of our history or have been made to believe it irrelevant to "modern" America?

The salvation of England at this stage in the game (which America will reach soon) would require a sort of massive cultural revival from the ground up. I'm not holding my breath on that (though I'd love to be proven wrong).

As for muslim complaints that criticism of veils is divisive... It is the muslims making every effort possible to remain a seperate, autonomous, and even hostile entity toward their foster countries and their citizenry. They refuse to assemilate (creating fiercly ethnocentric islamic enclaves from which they perpetually expand outward overwriting the culture of the host country), practice self-segregation, and often refuse to obey non-islamic laws. They are by definition seperatists. To assert that Jack Straw's citing their culture as being excessively seperative in nature (which it is being a system of beliefs wholly at odds with that of the foster country) is itself divisive, and causes more seperation, is an arguement rooted firmly in unrivaled idiocy and/or intellectual dishonesty. These people have made it abundantly clear that they have no intention of ever being homogeneous with the European culture. There is but one means by which a unification of muslims with Europe will occur, and that is a Europe which converts to islam, period. That is all they're willing to accept (and if this video is any indicator, it's what they'll get).

There is one thing for which I believe the marxists failed to account however. The muslim culture has shown itself to be extremely resistant if not impervious to cultural erosion. The left seeking so eagerly the demise of America is making alliances with islam to faciliate that goal, apparently not realizing that once we're gone they'll be next, and the strategies to which we fell will be largely ineffective on the muzzies.

DoctorDoom
05-09-2007, 06:00 AM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v349/DocDoom777/Terrorism/I-want-to-believe-sm.jpg

DoctorDoom
05-09-2007, 06:03 AM
Very well said, CH! :thumbup:

CzechPrince
05-09-2007, 06:34 AM
England is done (as is probably all of Europe, and we're not very far behind). This will continue until they're firmly clamped under the boot of sharia law.

Why?

For decades the malignant marxist ideology has been eroding the English culture (one of its goals being the destruction of a society's "ruggedness") to the point there's really nothing left of it. The English people are clearly castrated. This is conspicuously illustrated by the video. Simply observe the fact that most won't even passionately speak out against this invasion much less confront those involved. The people interviewed come across as completely impotent, their commentary little better than apathetic whining, and conveys a collective mentality of utter obliviousness to the implications of this cultural trend for their nation. Take for instance that they request (that's right, request, as opposed to force) that the muslims' signs be printed in English. The invaders simply refuse to comply. Why should they? What will the English do if they don't? Request with a "pretty please" next time?

The English are essentially doing nothing less than lubing their a-holes and bending over for the invaders, literally becoming the architects of their future subjugation, as seen with the use of "turkish" designs in new homes (this absolutely disgusting display of appeasement is a symbolic white flag and is to the muslims a sign of weakness/cowardice). Not only are they not resisting the invasion, they're modifying every aspect of their lives to make the invaders feel more at home during their ongoing conquest of their nation.

(How eff'in dumb can you honestly be to design homes with "turkish" decoration and then be puzzled as to why whites aren't interested? English whites aren't turkish jackasses, and using that theme for decoration doesn't promote "multi-culturalism," it promotes turkish culture. Just one more example of the lengths to which they'll go, in their delusional quest to commit cultural suicide, to please their new masters.)

Even if the English had any fight left in them, many wouldn't know for what exactly to fight at this point, as their culture has been almost utterly obscured if not forever lost in the minds of the youth. Ceaseless tolerance, diversity, and multi-culturalism propaganda campaigns will not only have resulted in significant cultural erosion, but will even leave many believing that accepting this invasion is their culture. Even those who retain knowledge of their nation's traditional culture will sit by and willingly surrender it, having been made (by the shame campaigns) to believe it's oppressive, evil, and unjust by its endless villification. A people made ashamed of their nation, culture, and history in this manner are effectively ideologically expatriated and unwilling to fight for any of the above.

Who would fight for what they've been taught is evil, oppressive, and unjust by the public indoctrination system for the bulk of their learning period in life? On average most children spend their life from 5-22 yrs old being taught in the marxist propaganda machines to hate capitalism, patriarchy, masculinity, national sovereignty, Christianity and all the values thereof, etc., etc. (Basically everything upon which America was founded.) And this isn't even accounting for other factors like a pop culture, media, and entertainment industry bombarding them just as relentlessly with the same message every second they're out of school.

The same scheme is being orchestrated here (though it's not as far along as of yet). Our traditional values are being erased over time as well and at the hands of the same culprit agenda. With each successive generation learning a PC history more drastically revised, skewed, and distorted than the generation prior, the culture upon which the country was founded becomes more and more obscure, alien, and even threatening to the average citizen.

It won't be much longer before the erosion process makes reversal impossible. The goal is to erase our nation's collective historical and cultural identity. Overwhelmingly emphasis is placed on being modern, progressive, and accepting of that which is drastically diffferent. We're constantly being pushed to recreate ourselves culturally and ideologically through the traditional being portrayed as inferior and obselete. It's purpose is to shatter all cultural or historical cohesion. Make people so drastically varied from person to person in lifestyle and beliefs that a cultural restoration movement becomes impossible to even form much less pursue.

Through the diversity, tolerance, and multi-culturalism campaigns we'll be reduced to a terminally fractured society with no clearly defined or consistent historical or cultural foundation. How could we fight for the restoration of our culture when no handful of us will share the same culture? How could we fight for the restoration of traditional values when the vast majority of citizens have no knowledge of our history or have been made to believe it irrelevant to "modern" America?

The salvation of England at this stage in the game (which America will reach soon) would require a sort of massive cultural revival from the ground up. I'm not holding my breath on that (though I'd love to be proven wrong).

As for muslim complaints that criticism of veils is divisive... It is the muslims making every effort possible to remain a seperate, autonomous, and even hostile entity toward their foster countries and their citizenry. They refuse to assemilate (creating fiercly ethnocentric islamic enclaves from which they perpetually expand outward overwriting the culture of the host country), practice self-segregation, and often refuse to obey non-islamic laws. They are by definition seperatists. To assert that Jack Straw's citing their culture as being excessively seperative in nature (which it is being a system of beliefs wholly at odds with that of the foster country) is itself divisive, and causes more seperation, is an arguement rooted firmly in unrivaled idiocy and/or intellectual dishonesty. These people have made it abundantly clear that they have no intention of ever being homogeneous with the European culture. There is but one means by which a unification of muslims with Europe will occur, and that is a Europe which converts to islam, period. That is all they're willing to accept (and if this video is any indicator, it's what they'll get).

There is one thing for which I believe the marxists failed to account however. The muslim culture has shown itself to be extremely resistant if not impervious to cultural erosion. The left seeking so eagerly the demise of America is making alliances with islam to faciliate that goal, apparently not realizing that once we're gone they'll be next, and the strategies to which we fell will be largely ineffective on the muzzies.

Very well thought out post. However, I can assure you the majority of citizens in the UK are up in arms about it, trust me. Europeans are very complex, but then again so is America. We both have trouble understanding each other's views much of the time. Being from Europe, I can understand the European side, and growing up as an American in the US, I sympathize more with our world view.

However, the British are not a weak people. They'll solve it one way or another. Lets hope it's done through legislation and lawfully before it turns into all out war.

omegatrump
05-12-2007, 09:54 AM
Very well thought out post. However, I can assure you the majority of citizens in the UK are up in arms about it, trust me. Europeans are very complex, but then again so is America. We both have trouble understanding each other's views much of the time. Being from Europe, I can understand the European side, and growing up as an American in the US, I sympathize more with our world view.

However, the British are not a weak people. They'll solve it one way or another. Lets hope it's done through legislation and lawfully before it turns into all out war.

Having trouble understanding each others views.... What is there to understand about Shirriah law?

The Britts will solve it through legislation? Any thoughts on how this will be performed?

omegatrump
05-12-2007, 09:56 AM
1) Jack Straw is assailed for speaking the truth & saying that the burka cuts off social dialogue and shuts down human interaction.

2) A Pakistani man says that Jack Straw is not being very inclusive with that statement.

See how quickly muslims have learned stockphrase liberal dogma to use as weapons for continued balkanization? Liberals have made it convenient for them by giving them protected minority class status which carries with it all the entitlement bennies of victimhood. When one can buy into the myth of their aggrieved status, then comes justification for all kinds of evil and selfish behavior. Whether its illegal aliens marching on Cesar Chavez day demanding Amercan citizenship or blacks their reparations, its the same thing; muslims blowing people up because they are 'victims' of the world. When you remind them that Tibetans aren't blowing up Chinamen nor are Sudanese people gangraping the Janjaweed, they don't have an answer.

And the most impressive thing about muslim immigrant takeovers is their shameless sense of entitlement on host countries, the way they use the taquiya(the lie) as a way to gain a foothold. And the host countries are not guilt-free. They are the enablers of immigrant ghettos by not demanding they earn their own way and subsidize terror through welfare.

Note that the Pakistani man critiques Jack Straw for not being 'very inclusive' by saying that the burka coldly isolates genders and communities against each other. That is an unarguably true statement by Jack Straw. Yet the Pakistani man says that Jack Straw is not being inclusive, when in fact, the burka itself is not being inclusive. But for the Pakistani man, the burka is not up for question. It is not up for discussion. Only British norms are. Not muslims norms.

This is a small example of how the muslim mind works. It is simply incapable of self-criticism. The only criticism comes from defectors or outsiders. And even more amazing is the way these cultures deny and lie their way through life. Look at the Palestinians. Or the Egyptians. Or their 'ministers of information' that spin yarns. I think it goes back to the bedouin nature of how gypsy cultures endured in the bartering days of early market culture. They had to lie by trade. And so gypsies became really good at saying one thing and doing another. They couldn't critique themselves because to do so meant starvation and so this is about survival for them, but it is more than that. It is about unquestioningly imposing their culture on atheist countries with dying cultures. Yes, in the end it comes back to God and which culture believes in theirs more. Right now, the muslims do and they will make Europe submit.

God is about faith. It asks the question, 'what do you believe?' If you don't have an answer, the barbarians will answer that question for you. Europe has lost its center because atheism has been its cultural main course now for the last 35 years. The muslims are simply occupying a void and they will lie, cheat and steal to take it. Jack Straw is only one man. Where are the others like him?

This is good Wyatt. The Barbarians will answer that question for sure, If...

DesertFox
05-12-2007, 06:51 PM
You guys be wastin' wind. There are plenty of moderate Muslims around, but they are irrelevant. When push comes to shove, and it will, those of us with functioning firearms and dry powder may get the chance to defend ourselves and America in the streets.

Myself, I'm sorta looking forward to it. But that doesn't mean I generalize to the point that I'm no longer speaking of reality. I know a few mod muzzies. Again, their moderation is irrelevant to the war that's coming, but that doesn't mean they don't exist. They do. And when the shooting starts, they will quickly die because of their moderation and it will be their own fault and I will not waste time mourning them.

But they do exist. For now.

Lubbock
05-12-2007, 07:49 PM
What Fox said.

In fact, I said close to the exact same thing a day or two ago.

I know, I know. I'm one of the ones who always screams, "There's no such thing as a Moderate Muslim," and with the next breath I say, "Even I've got since enough to know that not every Muslim on the planet wants to kill all of us."

"Moderate" definately isn't going to buy any of them their next breath when the bloodletting begins.

Silence can be deadly.

With the Jihadists threateing to run the streets of America red with blood, and with the Left rolling out the red carpet for the Jihaddists, and with our very own Constitution providing the protection for the Jihadists, it's going to be shame on the "Moderates."

There is a "Silent Majority" in this nation: silenced, thanks to the Criminal Liberal Left and their House Organ, ABCCBSNBCPMSNBCNYTLATBG, et al, although we're finding our voices through the internet. When the Jihadist bloodletting begins, we'll be finding our guns, and it will be shame on the Moderates.