View Full Version : Dobson says he will not back Giuliani in 2008
Suzie
05-17-2007, 08:36 PM
Dobson says he will not back Giuliani in 2008 (http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20070517/pl_nm/usa_politics_giuliani_dc;_ylt=AtYqES28KaQhRsIeWUHl zd0DW7oF) Reuters - 2 hours, 45 minutes ago WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Religious conservative leader James Dobson said on Thursday he would not vote for 2008 Republican presidential contender Rudolph Giuliani under any circumstances because of his support for abortion rights and his three marriages.
I would hope that no Christian would.
Republican_Legion
05-17-2007, 09:14 PM
I would hope that no Christian would.
Me too.
I expect though the christians that vote for him probally are Liberal Apostate Christians or simply clueless voters who didnt read all the positions on the candidates.
DoctorDoom
05-17-2007, 10:36 PM
Unfortunately, far too many voters choose their candidates by TV debates and appearances, and haven't a microclue about (or couldn't care less about) their positions on issues, their voting records, their performance in office, et al. Nothing else can explain 8 years of BJ Billy.
BaronKelan
05-18-2007, 02:29 PM
Unfortunately we can't have voters take a small test before voting to see if they have any clue about the people and issues on which they are voting. That would be racists don't you know. It's ever so much better to let the uninformed vote by whatever method floats their boat.
Longhorn_Platinum
05-18-2007, 04:34 PM
:moo: Dr. Dobson is certainly right about this.
:unsmile: Although, I just heard on Fox that he won't vote for McCain, either. While I'm not wild about McCain, at least he's not a pro-abortion wacko like Rudy. As of right now, I'd still vote for McCain in the general election.
dajoga
05-18-2007, 09:06 PM
No vote for rudi from me--if he's the 'pub candidate, I won't bother to vote!
BTW, here's Mike Huckabee (http://senate.ontheissues.org/Mike_Huckabee.htm) on the issues! His crack about John Edwards in the last debate caught a lot of people's attention.
Beowulf
05-18-2007, 09:46 PM
I won't vote for Rudy no matter what. The 3 marriages don't bother me very much as it seems we live in an age where spouses trade each other in like cars nowadays. (Present company excluded as I have my 18th anniversary on June 3rd.)
His pro-abortion stance is unacceptable.
Jimmy Wesson
06-18-2007, 03:56 PM
Religious conservative leader James Dobson said on Thursday he would not vote for 2008 Republican presidential contender Rudolph Giuliani under any circumstances because of his support for abortion rights and his three marriages.
:claps::claps:
I would hope that no Christian would.
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EveningStar
06-18-2007, 04:56 PM
We need to get our priorities straight. The big threat facing this country is not abortion. It is Islamofascist terrorism. Ruling out Rudy could lead to the suicide of not only the US, but the free world as well.
I will vote for the Republican candidate, no matter who he is. I will not stay home. I will not vote third party. I will not vote Democratic.
Timberwolf
06-18-2007, 09:17 PM
Like a good little sheeple. I won't vote for a liberal, PERIOD. I don't care if he has an "R" behind his name. A liberal is a LIBERAL.
And, FTR, if we don't stop the wholesale slaughter of the most innocent amongst us, why should we expect protection, from the terrorists, from the Almighty?
We don't stand a chance, if we shun God...doubt me if you want, laugh at me if you must...but, God will NOT be mocked. He will allow us to get our butts kicked AGAIN, if we don't "wise up".
The_Elucidator
06-19-2007, 05:54 AM
And, FTR, if we don't stop the wholesale slaughter of the most innocent amongst us, why should we expect protection, from the terrorists, from the Almighty?
We don't stand a chance, if we shun God...doubt me if you want, laugh at me if you must...but, God will NOT be mocked. He will allow us to get our butts kicked AGAIN, if we don't "wise up".
This is exactly how I feel on the situation. Until we stop paying lip service to this aspect of the equation and thinking that man alone can win this war on terror we are sunk. We are allowing a war to be waged on the unborn and are expecting to win the GWOT.... Not in this lifetime... Not ever!
HomeschoolrsRUs
06-19-2007, 06:31 AM
:thumb: What Luc and Timber said!
(Not that anyone didn't already KNOW that it would be a cold day you-you-know-where, when pigs fly and money grows on trees, the Pope renounces his position and the Wnter Olympics are held in Hawaii before I'LL vote for Rudy ... i.e. never.)
Jimmy Wesson
06-19-2007, 04:11 PM
Problem is that Rudy supports liberal values and I don't understand why a lot of Republicans supports his candidacy when I see his polls so higher...
I hope that a real conservative will be nominated. I don't want to see Rudy, even he is in the Republican Party, leader of the GOP and President of the USA...
EveningStar
06-19-2007, 05:15 PM
And, FTR, if we don't stop the wholesale slaughter of the most innocent amongst us, why should we expect protection, from the terrorists, from the Almighty?
If God is doing our fighting for us, then why have we bothered to send out our people to fight the wars? Why don't we let them stay at home and pray with us?
Timberwolf
06-19-2007, 06:19 PM
If God is doing our fighting for us, then why have we bothered to send out our people to fight the wars? Why don't we let them stay at home and pray with us?
You might wanna "brush up" on your understanding of God and His will before spouting your nonsense again. You truly show your ignorance of the matter every time you post on the subject. FTR, I didn't say He fought our wars for us...try reading what I actually posted.
Regardless, Lemme get you started. Does God fight our wars for us? No. BUT, He will most certainly stand with us IF we are faithful to Him. Furthermore, He will allow us to be vanquished BY our enemies should we shun Him. We are waging war upon the weakest and most innocent in our own society. How can we expect Him to stand with us when He clearly tells us He abhors the hand which spills innocent blood?
Read the OT and look at what He allowed His CHOSEN people to suffer when they rejected Him.
That this great nation, I love so much, has remained as powerful and influential as it has for so long surprises me to no end. We've been "sowing bad seed" for a looooooooong time. ALL seed (good AND bad) sown comes to harvest...we've only BEGUN to reap that which we have sown. I rue the day that it begins in earnest.
Longhorn_Platinum
06-19-2007, 07:37 PM
HomeschoolrsRUs:
:thumb: What Luc and Timber said!
(Not that anyone didn't already KNOW that it would be a cold day you-you-know-where, when pigs fly and money grows on trees, the Pope renounces his position and the Wnter Olympics are held in Hawaii before I'LL vote for Rudy ... i.e. never.)
:moo: Here, HomeschoolrsRUs, you might want to borrow my sign:
http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l294/Longhorn_Platinum/WhenHellFreezes.jpg
EveningStar
06-19-2007, 07:59 PM
Regardless, Lemme get you started. Does God fight our wars for us? No. BUT, He will most certainly stand with us IF we are faithful to Him. Furthermore, He will allow us to be vanquished BY our enemies should we shun Him. We are waging war upon the weakest and most innocent in our own society. How can we expect Him to stand with us when He clearly tells us He abhors the hand which spills innocent blood?
Let's say Rudy, or one of the Dems gets elected. Will God save those who voted pro-life or will he let them perish with everyone else?
TSawyer2112
06-19-2007, 09:24 PM
Let's say Rudy, or one of the Dems gets elected. Will God save those who voted pro-life or will he let them perish with everyone else?
"For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life." John 3:16.
Being saved in the spiritual is more important than being "saved" in the physical and it's not simply about voting pro-life.
I won't support Rudy. The sooner the GOP realizes that there are alot of us who won't support a liberal GOP nominee, the better for conservatives, the GOP, and the Country.
Republican_Legion
06-19-2007, 11:09 PM
Giuliani supports the open borders plan and amnesty deal.
That alone is why I wont even consider him.
Timberwolf
06-19-2007, 11:13 PM
Let's say Rudy, or one of the Dems gets elected. Will God save those who voted pro-life or will he let them perish with everyone else?
What do you think?
Jimmy Wesson
06-20-2007, 05:23 PM
Giuliani supports the open borders plan and amnesty deal.
That alone is why I wont even consider him.
:sad::sad:
Rudy is liberal like Clinton and others democrats who destroy our cherich country !
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Timberwolf
06-20-2007, 09:35 PM
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Let's say Rudy, or one of the Dems gets elected. Will God save those who voted pro-life or will he let them perish with everyone else?
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What do you think?
Well?
EveningStar
06-20-2007, 10:19 PM
Well?
I think that God helps those who help themselves.
Timberwolf
06-20-2007, 11:41 PM
I think God allows nations/people to reap what they sow.
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