Bush Urges 15 Nations to Reach Global Emissions Goal by 2008

[lowlander]

WASHINGTON — President Bush, seeking to blunt international criticism of the U.S. record on climate change, on Thursday urged 15 major nations to agree by the end of next year on a global emissions goal for reducing greenhouse gases.

Bush called for the first in a series of meetings to begin this fall, bringing together countries identified as major emitters of greenhouse gases blamed for global warming. The list would include the United States, China, India and major European countries.

The president outlined his proposal in a speech ahead of next week's summit in Germany of leading industrialized nations, where global warming is to be a major topic and Bush will be on the spot.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,276681,00.html

[PaulRevere]

We gave him an overwhelming mandate in the 2002 midterm election, then reelected him in 2004. Since then his been on a suicide mission to destroy his party and leave the country prostrate for a Democrat mandate to finish the job.

I think someone switched presidents on us. I want to know what happened to the real George Bush. This Manuchrian phony republican is the worst thing that could have happened to our party. As it currently stands, we don't stand a chance in 2008.

[Lazarus]

I think someone switched presidents on us. I want to know what happened to the real George Bush. This Manuchrian phony republican is the worst thing that could have happened to our party. As it currently stands, we don't stand a chance in 2008.Bro, Im afraid we are just now seeing the REAL George Bush... The mask has come off and we were conned...<!-- / message --><!-- sig -->

Bush is trying to make it up to the Left for stealing the election from Al Gore in 2000... He's gonna be the new, improved Al Gore...

The only thing the radical left can be mad at Bush over now is the fact that it took him so long to come out of the closet...

[The_Elucidator]

We gave him an overwhelming mandate in the 2002 midterm election, then reelected him in 2004.

John Q Voter gave him all the tools he needed to advance the conservative agenda. Instead he has used the tools like a retard with a loaded shotgun in a nitroglycerin factory!

[Lazarus]

John Q Voter gave him all the tools he needed to advance the conservative agenda. Instead he has used the tools like a retard with a loaded shotgun in a nitroglycerin factory!Man, that describes this situation about as clear as I have ever heard it put... Well said, Lucid..

[noncom]

Bush never once promised to be the Definition of Conservatism - that's just a label the media stuck on him. So it's not really surprising that he never lived up to a promise he never made.

If you look at Bush's stances on issues, he probably comes out right around the middle of the Republican Caucus. He rubber-stamped nearly every bill when Republicans were running Congress and now that Democrats are in charge, he's vetoing like crazy.

I've always had the impression that George Bush - like his father - is loyal, literally, to a fault. In a lot of ways, Bush was never a very good conservative, but I think he is trying his level best to be a loyal Republican - even if that means taking some bullets for the team. I'm not saying that what he's doing will WORK, but I think that his main goal right now is to pave the way for another Republican administration. For example, I think Bush wants to get an immigration bill - ANY immigration bill - passed and out of the way so that he takes all the flack and the next Republican leader will be free to curse him out to high Heaven if he wants to.

Regarding the Global Warming hoax, Bush has made it clear that he feels the only proper use for the Kyoto Accord is as biodegradable toilet paper. This planned conference is designed to advance that position, not to retreat from it. Bush's going-in position is that the Kyoto provisions to save the world by paying Communist countries to pollute are no longer on the table.

This will be a no-brainer for most western nations. Of course this conference won't result in an agreement, because Communist, Socialist and Third-World countries will be wildly opposed to it. Bush will take another hit, but so what? His approval rating can't very well go into negative numbers can they?

The important thing is that the next Republican candidate will have a ready-made coalition of countries to bolster his position on the environment, but he won't have to DO anything about Global Warming because the world will be stuck in a hopeless impasse on that issue. The Kyoto Accord will be even deader than it is now, and there will be no point in America taking any unilateral steps. This should effectively negate that whole element of the moonbat platform for the next election cycle.

[Lazarus]

...I've always had the impression that George Bush - like his father - is loyal, literally, to a fault. In a lot of ways, Bush was never a very good conservative, but I think he is trying his level best to be a loyal Republican - even if that means taking some bullets for the team. I'm not saying that what he's doing will WORK, but I think that his main goal right now is to pave the way for another Republican administration. For example, I think Bush wants to get an immigration bill - ANY immigration bill - passed and out of the way so that he takes all the flack and the next Republican leader will be free to curse him out to high Heaven if he wants to....Please explain to me how alienating the conservative base is "taking a bullet" for the Republican party... Just who exactly IS this elusive entity known as the Republican party if it isnt the voters who have been the core that placed them in power? How are his actions going to bring the Conservative mass into the loving arms of the Republicans and pave the way for another Republican president, when everything he is doing is driving Conservatives away from the party?

No, loyal is hardly the adjective I would ever apply to George W Bush... I tend to lean more toward other words - Disloyal...Betrayal...Obsessed...Arrogant...!!!

I have to disagree with your evaluation of Mr Bush...

[noncom]

Please explain to me how alienating the conservative base is "taking a bullet" for the Republican party...
Hey, don't blame me - I'm not voting for George Bush in 2008 either!

[Rhino]

I'm not voting for George Bush in 2008 either!That would be a neat trick, though.

[Lazarus]

Whatcha wanna bet there are still some Bush-a-philes out there who would still vote for him a third time if they could...

[noncom]

Whatcha wanna bet there are still some Bush-a-philes out there who would still vote for him a third time if they could...
Nobody here is saying that Hillary wouldn't make a better President than George Bush...

Oh, wait. No, a lot of people are saying that.

Sorry, what was your point again?

[M.C.]

I'm still mad no one ran against him in '04...I felt like wasting a vote and gave the tick to Nader since Kerry was gonna win the state anyway.

[Lazarus]

Nobody here is saying that Hillary wouldn't make a better President than George Bush...

Oh, wait. No, a lot of people are saying that.

Sorry, what was your point again?Now you've got ME confused... Forget it...

[Rhino]

:rotflmbo: :rotflmbo: :rotflmbo:

[noncom]

I'm still mad no one ran against [George Bush] in '04...I felt like wasting a vote and gave the tick to Nader since Kerry was gonna win the state anyway.
Practically no one is running against him now. Giuliani is a lot more liberal on most issues than Bush is. McCain is probably more conservative on many issues than either of them, but there's no way I'd vote for him as a Republican. If Giuliani were the Republican candidate and McCain were running as a Democrat, I'd actually consider voting for McCain. Romney? His politics are as unsteady as his pole position.

Thompson will be a great candidate come July, but somehow it bugs me that I have so many hopes riding on one man. I wish our field were a lot deeper, but that's just not the world we live in.

[Rhino]

Thompson will be a great candidate come July, but somehow it bugs me that I have so many hopes riding on one man. I wish our field were a lot deeper, but that's just not the world we live in.Excellent point. But it is my fervent hope that Thompson stomps all the rest in the dust, the GOP finally gets the message that they should run conservatives for office and that the 'fields' will be much deeper in subsequent elections. If the GOP doesn't get that message, our future hopes are dim.

[noncom]

Excellent point. But it is my fervent hope that Thompson stomps all the rest in the dust, the GOP finally gets the message that they should run conservatives for office and that the 'fields' will be much deeper in subsequent elections. If the GOP doesn't get that message, our future hopes are dim.
Unfortunately, there were a lot of libertarians who wanted to "send a message" to the Republican Party in previous elections. And that message got through loud and clear: LIBERALS WIN ELECTIONS.

To tell the truth, it's not really MY hopes I'm worried will be dashed. I know as much about Thompson as I need to know. But those fringies are a fickle bunch. Right now a lot of them are hitching their wagons to a blank slate, but that could change in no time once the pressure of a campaign kicks in.

OK, that's a screwy metaphor, but you get my point: There are a lot of one-issue fanatics out there who couldn't give less of a crap which candidate is best; all they care about is which one is perfect. And they will turn like a pack of hyenas at Thompson's first hint of equivocation on their pet peeve.

Don't get me wrong; I'm sure the guy is smart enough to deal with a minefield, but he's not that experienced at campaigning. He's got a long way to go to the Convention, and an even longer way to go to the election.

[Rhino]

True, but I was speaking more in the context of elections after this one. Even if we win this one, our futures hopes are dim if the GOP never gets the message that they should be running conservatives. For our future prospects, they desperately need to get that message, or we're in trouble.

[noncom]

True, but I was speaking more in the context of elections after this one. Even if we win this one, our futures hopes are dim if the GOP never gets the message that they should be running conservatives. For our future prospects, they desperately need to get that message, or we're in trouble.
Politicians aren't that great at "getting messages"; they're more like plankton - reflexively responding to the brute forces of their environment from one moment to the next.

And it's our job to be that force. Let the moonbats worry about "smoke-filled back rooms." Conservatives are supposed to know the real secret of life: that nobody is responsible for my fate but me.

So the real question is whether we conservatives have learned our lesson: GET INVOLVED IN PRIMARY CAMPAIGNS.

And I'm slowly beginning to think we might be figuring that out.

[omegatrump]

I do hope Thompson gets in. I think what is taking him so long is the real problem. The 'what' is, he is studying what his prospects are for governance if he wins. I don't blame him. The massive machinery in place by Rino Republicans may tromp him in the mud. Like Rino said: "If the GOP doesn't get the message we are in trouble."

I'd like to add, that if the GOP voters don't get a clue.....

[DesertFox]

Hey, Bush? :finger:

[GOP Woman]

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,276681,00.html
In 2000, I was for Alan Keyes. I thought he was the most level-headed and straight-out conservative in the bunch. My husband was a big Bush supporter all the way. I had reservations about President Bush, but Hubby never figured out why I wasn't as hot as he was on Bush, and I can't put my finger on it myself, but something held me back from quite being very excited about him.. When the primary election came around, I voted for Keyes. He lost, Bush won. So I jumped in with Bush. I figured he could be acceptable.. Then, 9/11 hit and I said thank goodness Bush was in charge, Gore would have helped the terrorists finish our country off. Bush will be able to show what a strong leader he is. I figured Bush would shut the borders to keep illegals out and take steps to kick out the illegals who are here to make sure we're safe (Make sure laws against hiring illegals are enforced, etc...) and that any illegals that managed to stay here aren't abusing our charitable systems for welfare. I am feeling very disappointed, angered, and betrayed that I had actually started to trust Bush, even though he was my 2nd choice. I heard Tony Snow on Bill O'Reilly. I was sad, because I really like Tony, but I didn't buy for a second what Tony was selling. I feel so frustrated, angry, betrayed, and helpless. I hate feeling this way, that the people we put our trust into have betrayed us. Anyone else feel that way or maybe have another way of looking at things we could talk over?? If you do, please PM me if that would be the preferred way to have these conversations. Thanks, /rant - GOP Woman (aka Cheryl)

[DesertFox]

Well, my uncertainties about Bush had no uncertainty: He didn't give us a clear statement, at any time, of what he was for or against. It was a pig-in- a-poke election. We got to vote against GW Gore or GW Bush.

[Etaoin]

True, but I was speaking more in the context of elections after this one. Even if we win this one, our future's hopes are dim if the GOP never gets the message that they should be running conservatives. For our future prospects, they desperately need to get that message, or we're in trouble.

I concur! There just aren't and won't be enough Home Schoolers to counter the Department of Education's influence. Josef Goebbel's decendents have found a permanent home in our MSM and rationality seems to have deserted the arena of political discourse!

[Lazarus]

Well, my uncertainties about Bush had no uncertainty: He didn't give us a clear statement, at any time, of what he was for or against. It was a pig-in- a-poke election. We got to vote against GW Gore or GW Bush.That pretty much sums up the history of this situation... When I looked at Bush in the primaries I saw a man who made the right noise on some issues, and when I saw who he was running against (Mad Mac McCain) it was a no-brainer... Bush appeared at the time to be the man we were looking for... No doubt if I look back now at the pack we had to choose from in the primaries, I could find more than one who I would consider to be excellent conservative candidates ( I couldnt name the field now if I had to)... But I do recall that the race narrowed down quickly to Bush vs McCain...

Once the general election hit, the die was cast - our decision was over for all practical purposes...

In my wildest dreams I could never have imagined any Republican candidate (aside from McCain who I consider to be a liberal mole anyway) doing to us what Bush has done... His blatant betrayal of America and moreso, the people who gave him his office, is beyond belief - even for me today as I sit here and watch it... This isnt the behavior of a moderate Republican - This is madness... The fact that the primary sponsor of Bush's betrayal for the Dems is Teddy Kennedy says it all...

Someone used to have a pic on their avatar of Bush and Kennedy yucking it up together (probably at some state of the union address where everyone exudes phoney politeness and cordiality for the cameras)... I wish some one could dig that pic back up... Its more appropriate today than ever before...

[Rhino]

Pretty much the same for me, DF and Laz. Although he's still better than the alternative would have been, that gap has narrowed significantly. I'm almost afraid to see what might happen in the next year and a half.

[Lazarus]

Pretty much the same for me, DF and Laz. Although he's still better than the alternative would have been, that gap has narrowed significantly. I'm almost afraid to see what might happen in the next year and a half.He is obsessed with this Mexican thing... Even if this bill fails to make it to his desk (please God), I dont believe he will stop on that issue... I believe he probably has Rove working on some Plan B to fall back on... He is determined to rewrite the immigration laws to favor his chosen people before he leaves office... And Bush is nothing if not mule-headed...

He backed down on the Harriet Myers nomination because it occurred before the '04 election and he needed us then - and I got the feeling that THAT really stuck in his craw... He no longer needs us now and this term, in his mind, is HIS term... He has chosen this Mexican invasion and success as Iraq as his crowning legacy... He will fight and claw to the end to get what HE wants... He's beginning to look like a spoiled brat to me - someone who's used to getting his way...

His mulishness was useful when he was fighting for good Supreme Court justices and standing up agains the Left... I had no idea he would turn it on us... His open, blatant, emotionless betrayal of Conservatives appears almost Psychotic... I pray he doesnt have some other massive betrayal in his back pocket that we are unaware of...

[Maggie_T]

PaulRevere said:
We gave him an overwhelming mandate in the 2002 midterm election, then reelected him in 2004. Since then his been on a suicide mission to destroy his party and leave the country prostrate for a Democrat mandate to finish the job.

The Elucidator said:
John Q Voter gave him all the tools he needed to advance the conservative agenda. Instead he has used the tools like a retard with a loaded shotgun in a nitroglycerin factory!

Man, you two nailed it. :sulk: I wouldn't feel more betrayed if hubby suddenly ran away with a 20 year-old blonde babe (fortunately, he knows better :evilgrin: ).

Seriously. I just have no reasonable explanation for Bush's behavior since 2004, apart that he suddenly went stark, staring mad, or that he's gone back on the sauce.

He does indeed act like a changelin.

[Bluemoon_Rising]

Climate controls = socialism.

[DeclinetoState]

If I were George W. Bush, I would have stayed as far as I could away from Ted Kennedy. Every time he has gotten in bed with the Swimmer, we've been had. Yet Ted still stabs him in the back at every opportunity.

So who does Mary Jo Kopechne represent--George W. Bush, or the rest of us? I tend to think she represents the rest of us.

:mad:

[dPrasse]

Seriously. I just have no reasonable explanation for Bush's behavior since 2004, apart that he suddenly went stark, staring mad, or that he's gone back on the sauce.

He no longer has a need to lie to Conservatives ...

We are seeing the true W , now ...
properly groomed by his Global Socialism daddy ...

[dPrasse]

[COLOR=magenta]In 2000, I was for Alan Keyes. I thought he was the most level-headed and straight-out conservative in the bunch.

I just found my Keyes yard sign in the garage while spring cleaning last weekend ...

[dPrasse]

Someone used to have a pic on their avatar of Bush and Kennedy yucking it up together (probably at some state of the union address where everyone exudes phoney politeness and cordiality for the cameras)... I wish some one could dig that pic back up... Its more appropriate today than ever before...

This pic ?

http://www.whitehouse.gov/president/100days/400P136-27a-02.jpg

or this one from the WH page ?

http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2001/08/images/20010802-5.jpg

[dPrasse]

His open, blatant, emotionless betrayal of Conservatives appears almost Psychotic... I pray he doesnt have some other massive betrayal in his back pocket that we are unaware of...

http://members.optushome.com.au/enchilada/b3ta/bush-pirate.jpg

[DoctorDoom]

Avast, mateys! Keelhaul th' landlubbers! AAAARRRRRR!