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maxparrish
05-31-2007, 08:55 PM
Radio Talk Show Host, former Republican Admin. Attorney (Reagan and Bush One I think), and very well connected. Hewitt is upbeat and says bill is dead as drafted...REALLY dead.


Thursday, May 31, 2007
Can Any Immigration Bill Be Saved? (http://hughhewitt.townhall.com/g/2998af5a-88a3-4164-9868-d8027d82ff1c)
Posted by Hugh Hewitt | 7:53 PM
Another day of interviews and calls, and my overwhelming sense is that the immigration bill as drafted is as dead as dead can be. The president's speech on Tuesday had the effect of throwing gas on the flames, and the anger has multiplied, and it isn't nativist in the least.

Could the bill be saved? Only if the Republican leadership comes back with a package of amendments which it announces beforehand and insists be voted on serially and all of which must be adopted if cloture is to be invoked on the final amended version. The choice before the Democrats is whether they will accept genuine enforcement (the whole fence first, big hikes in federal law enforcement beyond the Border Patrol, a burden of proof requirement on non-Spanish speaking immigrants from countries with jihadist networks and perhaps even for gang-age Spanish speakers etc.) What happened over the past ten days was a huge shift against the bill so that the amendment package must be real reform of the reform or the dead end will be reached. John McCain knew what he was doing when he demanded a jam down --the bill has lost support with every day of scrutiny.

...Expect more and more Democrats to try and keep the bill as it is because of the inferno on the right. Even lefties pushing for more family member migrations etc have got to see that unity in pushing the present version forward will splinter the GOP as surely as the Corn Laws did Peel's Tories or as Ireland did Gladstone's Liberals. If the GOP doesn't get its amendment package out and adopted, the Republican Leader has got to call a halt to the meltdown. See this story for a clue on the deep damage done to the GOP over the past few days. (http://hughhewitt.townhall.com/g/45b04c21-b94d-4352-b945-824992c66bc3)

Now I like Hugh AND he is more moderate than the typical conservative host (he even supported Harriet Meyers) BUT he is damn smart and researchs everything. As he has been pissed at Tancredo for not compromising last year, his attitude was somewhat downbeat till this week. NOW he is sure it will die and he is very happy...

We will see, but it is a good omen.

The_Elucidator
05-31-2007, 09:07 PM
Expect more and more Democrats to try and keep the bill as it is because of the inferno on the right. Even lefties pushing for more family member migrations etc have got to see that unity in pushing the present version forward will splinter the GOP as surely as the Corn Laws did Peel's Tories or as Ireland did Gladstone's Liberals. If the GOP doesn't get its amendment package out and adopted, the Republican Leader has got to call a halt to the meltdown.

This is bad why? I completely disagree on this paragraph. This bill is not splintering the GOP it is firing up conservatives. Just because the politicians are splintering doesn't mean the base that elected them is. We will be united in our drive to place a POTUS who is willing to follow the rule of law and uphold the Constitution. I'm not sure even Hugh Hewitt understands the tide rolling across this great country. People are tired of electing officials who think they know what is better for us once they get to D.C.

maxparrish
05-31-2007, 11:26 PM
This is bad why? I completely disagree on this paragraph. This bill is not splintering the GOP it is firing up conservatives. Just because the politicians are splintering doesn't mean the base that elected them is. We will be united in our drive to place a POTUS who is willing to follow the rule of law and uphold the Constitution. I'm not sure even Hugh Hewitt understands the tide rolling across this great country. People are tired of electing officials who think they know what is better for us once they get to D.C.

Actually I do think it is splintering the GOP somewhat. I know of GOP moderates that are confused by the firestorm, and have mixed feelings over those 'nice' 'poor' and 'hardworking' illegals. Firebrand conservatives are only (at best) half the party, and the business and neo-con class thinks of us as benighted yahoos, knuckle dragging country populists. I went to the 1976 Republican convention as a "youth" supporting Reagan, and saw the Chamber of Commerce GOP (the Ford supporters). Ford people were innocent, lost, unthinking, loyal to the bosses, and vapid. (It was fun harrassing them, they were totally uninformed).

On second thought I confess that the majority of the GOP grassroots moderates are also angry over immigration SO 75% of the party is upset. ...so I should not exaggerate the grass roots divison. BUT the party upper classes and elites are destroying our support, and this party will be damaged badly if this goes on.

Hugh wants the current bill reworked - he is in favor of a compromise that builds a 800 mile fence, provides serious visa and immigration controls, ends chain migration. In return, he is willing to give amnesty and have guest workers. However, if he can't get that he would like it to die.

His readers and listeners want the bill flat out killed.

I have no idea how it turns out, but the fact that he thinks it is going to die is very good news...hope he is right.

Maggie_T
06-01-2007, 04:16 PM
I wish I could share Hewitt's optimism. But I somehow doubt it. The way Bush and the pro-amnesty morons in CONgress are ignoring the clamor from the American people does not give me a warm fuzzy feeling.

Honestly, I never quite saw anything like it. King George himself could not have shown a more stupendous contempt and disregard for the "will of the people."

And now, they're adding insult to injury by telling us how stupid and unsophisticated we are. They're basically telling us to STFU and go and play while they - the learned adults - "solve" the problem of illegal immigration.

Un-forking-believable.