Politicians want an America free of Americans

[Kathy30]

That's why they do what they are doing.

Also curiously, the Republican enthusiasm for increased immigration also was not so much about voting in the end, even with "converted" Latinos. Instead, these legislators seemingly believed that they could weaken the restraining and frustrating straightjacket devised by the Founding Fathers and abetted by American norms. In that idealized "new" United States, political uncertainty, demanding constituents, difficult elections, and accountability in general would "go away" after tinkering with the People, who have given lawmakers their privileges but who, like a Sword of Damocles, can also "unfairly" take them away. Hispanics would acquiesce and assist in the "natural progress" of these legislators to remain in power and increase the scope of that power. In this sense, Republicans and Democrats were similar.

Most of them seemed to advocate changing the ethnic composition of the United States as an end in itself. Jefferson and Madison would have perhaps understood why this is so—enthusiasm for mass immigration seems to be correlated with examples of undermining the "just and constitutional laws" they devised.

Mexican President Luis Echeverría (1970-76), who began the cycle of political violence and economic crisis from which the country has yet to recover, pursued a policy of moving hundreds of thousands of impoverished people from the country’s south to the more prosperous and dynamic northern states, where they remain to this day, mostly in shantytowns. His goal was to neutralize those states’ more active civic culture that threatened his power—as these states were at the time the main source of opposition to his dictatorial ambitions. These pauperized and dependent migrants and their offspring would provide a ready source of votes for the ruling party along with a mobilizeable mass to counter (politically as well as physically) the more civic-oriented middle classes of those northern states and "crack" their will to challenge his corporatist regime.

From this essay, which is quite long, I only snipped excerpts, it appears that our politicians admire the corruption of mexican politicians. The goal really is to make the US as corrupt as mexico.
http://www.cis.org/articles/2006/back706.html

Can Americans change it?

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[maxparrish]

It's even more insidious. What the liberal elites want is...:

1) The shattering of all community identity. They resent people in mid sized and small towns that see themselves beholden and loyal to one another. The idea of the local banker, the local industry, the local schools and institutions of higher education see themselves as 'in the same boat' and voting as a regional or State block is unacceptable.

2) To help shatter these relations, the elites encourage "cosmopolitan" identity that transcends town, State, and country. For example, bankers should have their professional loyalty and identity with/to national and international banking - not the town or State. The same is true of a town's teachers, their local industry, etc.

3) There are many ways they accomplish this: national certification of education standards, regulation of taxes and budgets of school districts, laws requiring a single national standard for loans, suppression of home schools and church education, promoting illegal workers so as to replace local young people's job opportunities in rural and small towns (construction, meat packing, etc.) so locals will have to move , creation of burdensome regulations on local small industries "to save the environment" or "protect the consumer" (e.g. organic foods now require corporate deep pockets to even get certified).

3) Development of a huge beholden class. Liberals would like to take away free choice via the market (e.g. Hillary) and transfer it to government on behalf of their 'community-less' national constituencies. Within this new class structure there are only TWO major classes: the highly networked elites of political/material wealth that represent cosmopolitan culture AND a mass of 'others' of little wealth who are supplicants begging from their government programs.

4) In the areas of private wealth, they favor the non-local 'new technology' and useless wealth transfers via lawyers - not those who produce actual wealth (materials of substance) in localities. They marvel over 'vapor' products in data, on-line retail, search engines, carbon credits, speaking fees, seminars on empowerment, big awards from trial suits of those who DO produce, grants for impossible alternative energy, etc. They don't like people who want to produce the tangible in steel, coal, oil, refineries, manufacturing, mining, or farming - nor do they like engineers and construction firms. This is nasty "old" stuff that encourages people to bond locally.

5) The best route to their goals is to impoverish the nation through transfers of wealth to government; exporting jobs; and importing workers for those jobs that cannot be exported (construction, agriculture, transportation); shattering old identifies and communities; and making large ethnic blocks beholden.

The ENEMY of these elites is the middle class. The broad middle class has to be eliminated for the Lord and their vassals to exist. After all, what power base can be maintained as long as people keep their own money, provide for themselves, and constantly produce real material products for free exchange?


Make no mistake, this is more about power relationships than material wealth. POWER...the magic amulet.

[omegatrump]

Can Americans change it?



That's a really good question. I have bellered for years against this and other issues that play intricately into the dismanteling of America. The problem is that most well meaning individuals can't think on their own, they rely on some other well placed individuals to do their thinking for them. For the most part those doing the thinking for them are only keeping them corraled and controled. Usually they don't wake up to the fact they have been had untill the damage has been done.

Damage has been done. To turn this train load of stuff around would take more than most people realize. Yet on the other hand, if the people would throw out all of those in government that have been a party to this, maybe.

Childish rantings and blowhard chants of "were going to kick those chicano's out of our country," etc. Hasn't ever done anything and never will. In fact usually it's those people who are letting somebody else do their thinking for them. I frankly don't have much hope.

The fact that people are starting to realize they have been had gives a little hope. When the imensity of the damage is realized....?

It's like somebody that has been in denial about the cancer that is taking over their body, and after it takes their liver they suddenly wake up and decide they are going to fight it.

Miracles can and do happen all the time. We must have Hope, but Hope by itself is not enough. Hope must transition to Faith, Faith then has to produce Works....

[omegatrump]

It's even more insidious. What the liberal elites want is...:

1) The shattering of all community identity. They resent people in mid sized and small towns that see themselves beholden and loyal to one another. The idea of the local banker, the local industry, the local schools and institutions of higher education see themselves as 'in the same boat' and voting as a regional or State block is unacceptable.

2) To help shatter these relations, the elites encourage "cosmopolitan" identity that transcends town, State, and country. For example, bankers should have their professional loyalty and identity with/to national and international banking - not the town or State. The same is true of a town's teachers, their local industry, etc.

3) There are many ways they accomplish this: national certification of education standards, regulation of taxes and budgets of school districts, laws requiring a single national standard for loans, suppression of home schools and church education, promoting illegal workers so as to replace local young people's job opportunities in rural and small towns (construction, meat packing, etc.) so locals will have to move , creation of burdensome regulations on local small industries "to save the environment" or "protect the consumer" (e.g. organic foods now require corporate deep pockets to even get certified).

3) Development of a huge beholden class. Liberals would like to take away free choice via the market (e.g. Hillary) and transfer it to government on behalf of their 'community-less' national constituencies. Within this new class structure there are only TWO major classes: the highly networked elites of political/material wealth that represent cosmopolitan culture AND a mass of 'others' of little wealth who are supplicants begging from their government programs.

4) In the areas of private wealth, they favor the non-local 'new technology' and useless wealth transfers via lawyers - not those who produce actual wealth (materials of substance) in localities. They marvel over 'vapor' products in data, on-line retail, search engines, carbon credits, speaking fees, seminars on empowerment, big awards from trial suits of those who DO produce, grants for impossible alternative energy, etc. They don't like people who want to produce the tangible in steel, coal, oil, refineries, manufacturing, mining, or farming - nor do they like engineers and construction firms. This is nasty "old" stuff that encourages people to bond locally.

5) The best route to their goals is to impoverish the nation through transfers of wealth to government; exporting jobs; and importing workers for those jobs that cannot be exported (construction, agriculture, transportation); shattering old identifies and communities; and making large ethnic blocks beholden.

The ENEMY of these elites is the middle class. The broad middle class has to be eliminated for the Lord and their vassals to exist. After all, what power base can be maintained as long as people keep their own money, provide for themselves, and constantly produce real material products for free exchange?


Make no mistake, this is more about power relationships than material wealth. POWER...the magic amulet.


It's like they are using a manual, of which you have so aptly articulated.

[Maggie_T]

Can Americans change it?

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The could if they wanted to. The real question is, would they be ready to do what it takes to change it. And the answer is NO.

That's because children of the past and present generation have been taught that because their country is great, powerful, and wealthy, they should be ashamed of it, and should try to make up for such a crime by feeding and clothing all poor countries in the world. Children are taught that the Framers were just "dead, white males who owned slaves." The glorious history of this country is barely skimmed, and then, quickly swept under the carpet, like something one should be embarassed by.

And college "education" is no better.

Naturally, kids who have been thus indoctrinated, grow up either hating their country, or feeling indifferent about its future. You can hardly expect them to jump up and take arms to defend a country they were indoctrinated to believe is at the root of all evil.

Sure, there are some patriots left. But they are few and far between, IMHO. And dig a bit deeper and you'll find that even they end up hemming and hawing and talking about "the rule of law," and whatnot.

No, the good old days of tarring and feathering and revolutions are dead and gone. Now, it's all about civility and the rule of law.

*Snort* The rule of law, indeed. In the end, the blasted rule of law - especially when so selectively applied - is going the be the undoing of this country.

As a certain, notorious gentleman once said, I'll retire to bedlam.