Iraq: The real story - from someone who is there

[EveningStar]

This is from another forum. I know this person online. She's great.

...I am a civilian contractor working on a Forward Operating Base in Baghdad...

The media is twisting, distorting and in many cases, outright lying about what really goes on in Iraq...

What the media largely omits is the vast amount of progress being made here...
Read the whole thing. (http://www.wideawakes.net/forum/comments.php?DiscussionID=7432)

[EveningStar]

Bumping an important thread

[MrSanity]

I can't thank this patriot enough for serving his country, but at the same time, I feel terrible about not only the dangers he is surrounded by in Iraq, but the dangers that result from the actions of the vile swine in Congress.

[Taylor]

We need to hear a lot more good news from Iraq and less bad things. If the Democrats and the anti-war groups succeed in forcing us to cut and run, nobody will ever trust us again and we will become the bullies of the world. We can't leave Iraq now because if we do, Iran will take over the entire Middle East and there will be even more chaos and killing over there than there is now. Besides, the terrorists will follow us home. As soon as the Iraqi's can defend their own country without our help, then we'll be able to leave. The anti-war crowd is responsible for dragging out the Iraq front. If they truely supported the troops like they claim to, we would be much further along.

[dPrasse]

If W truly wants to win this war , he needs to keep on pounding ....

[noncom]

The media tries to convey that the Iraqis don't want us here. Oh, there are some who don't. But the vast majority of them are terrified at the prospect of the Americans leaving at this time.
To be a liberal is to be a moral absolutist. It is a frightening prospect to admit that we live in a world where some things are better and some things are worse. It is much easier to stick your head in the clouds and believe that some things are infinitely bad, and all other things are infinitely good.

Of course the conservative media has gained a lot of ground since this whole "Information Age" thing started. But the liberal media would be dying off a lot faster if not for the fact that a large number of people desperately WANT to believe the things liberals tell them: a handful of idiots at a holding facility get 90 days in a row of front page headlines in the New York Times, at the same time that images of the 9/11 bombings have been literally blacked out on ABC, NBC and CBS.

Liberals don't just happen to believe, they desperately WANT to believe that nothing good is happening in Iraq. They NEED to believe our soldiers are being slaughtered like brainless sheep for no purpose whatsoever.

We live in a very cushy country; and many people have simply never felt the need to grow up. Children can't accept the fact that people die every day delivering the potato chips that they eat, let alone that people would willingly risk their lives for such an incredibly abstract concept as "liberty." Young children have an excuse for living in a fantasy world, and the old ones will scream bloody murder rather than admit that they don't.

[dPrasse]

Very good , Noncom ....

[Jag Wife]

We live in a very cushy country; and many people have simply never felt the need to grow up. Children can't accept the fact that people die every day delivering the potato chips that they eat, let alone that people would willingly risk their lives for such an incredibly abstract concept as "liberty." Young children have an excuse for living in a fantasy world, and the old ones will scream bloody murder rather than admit that they don't.<!-- / message --><!-- sig -->

Amen. As a DAR prospect, I am disgusted at what I see around me, knowing what my ancestors gave their all for. :flame:

Hope it's okay if I bring back a thread I started some time back concerning Iraq's legal and judicial system. Let's just say it's not the Warren court, good thing for them.

http://www.freeconservatives.com/vb/showthread.php?t=42027&highlight=Iraq+attorney

[Beowulf]

No surprises, really but Great article.

[DesertFox]

To be a liberal is to be a moral absolutist.Then you're using that term in a way not usually employed. Modern liberals generally are moral relativists and conservatives are moral absolutists.

[noncom]

Then you're using [the term "moral absolutist"] in a way not usually employed. Modern liberals generally are moral relativists and conservatives are moral absolutists.
Nonsense. Conservatives are not Inquisitors. We may hate a lot of things, but we are capable of TOLERANCE. Liberals are not.

Just taking one of many examples: Homosexuals creep me out more than any other fetishist except maybe "snuffers." But I am fully capable of putting up with the faggots when I have to.

Liberals cannot tolerate anything; they either condone or they revile; there is nothing in between those two extremes. Therefore, liberals portray the most publically flamboyant homosexual fetishists as perfectly normal, and even in many ways superior to everyone else. The last thing in the world liberals want is the freedom to comit sodomy behind closed doors. They want to (at least figuratively) shove their favorite fetish down children's throats at Disneyland.

I understand that private ownership of guns will sometimes lead to injury or death; but I'm willing to accept that the risk is worth the added benefits of deterrence and social stability. Liberals don't have a different calculation in their heads - they simply utterly reject the second half of that equation: in the liberal mind, there cannot be ANY benefit - EVER to private citizens owning guns. Liberals will never speak the magic word, but they see gun ownership absolutely nothing but evil - pure and simple.

OK, conservatives seem a little picky about where life starts. But we have a REASON for that. I mean, that's why it's called "making babies," right? Nevertheless, about 90% of conservatives would tolerate abortion in the case of rape, incest or to save the life of the mother: in short, every use except as a form of birth control. Conservaties are adults; and as such we accept the difficult fact that even the most horrible act might sometimes be necessary.

But the liberals have absolutely no problem with picking a completely arbitrary line, and clinging to it like a moral liferaft. Two seconds after birth, the killing of an infant is the most heinous crime imaginable. But to the liberal, killing the same baby two seconds earlier isn't just tolerable; it is the utmost expression of a mother's self actualization.

Have you ever heard a liberal say: "It's ok to sort-of kill babies because..."? Of course not; they cannot imagine any reason their actions might require justification. No serial killer can tolerate his own acts, so he simply denies them: "IT does what it's told... IT puts on the lotion..." He never kills a person; he just "terminates" an inconvenience. In his mind, WE are all insane for imagining there could be a problem with that; and we're interfering with HIS freedom by trying to stop him. There is no grey area; it's an absolute schism.

Guns: pure evil. Homosexuality and abortion: pure good. Etc., etc., etc....

Don't let the liberal's constant equivocation fool you: their version of morality may be twisted beyond recognition, but it is there. And it is utterly inflexible.

[DesertFox]

You may not be aware of what's meant by "moral relativist." In common parlance it means situational ethics -- you can excuse X behavior because of this circumstance or that situation. Now, in nonextreme cases that's fine; but it's used by relativists (liberals) to excuse inexcusable behavior in the most bizarre extremes, such as partial birth abortion.

The principal isn't abortion itself or killing itself, but murder. That's how conservatives see it, and no moral person can argue that murder is no big deal. Liberals, OTOH, switch the argument from the killing of innocents for convenience' sake (murder) to the mother's right to her body. Theirs is clearly a relativist stance morally, when they can overlook murder in favor of convenience.

Those who believe in God are indeed moral absolutists. When God said Thou Shalt Not Commit Adultery, He didn't mean you could do it when you were away from home for lengthy periods and man, oh man, did you ever get horny. He didn't mean you could do it when your wife was frigid and wouldn't give you any. He didn't mean you could commit adultery in some circumstances; He meant no adultery.

That's moral absolutism.

That the Left is inflexible is evident in all they do. That doesn't reflect moral absolutism, but its opposite: They're so afraid that they cling to their shibboleths like a frightened child to mommy's skirts. This is why there are so many "public atheists." They MUST convince their fellow man that they are right because on the inside they're scared to death that they may be wrong. They know no inner certainty of the kind Believers know.