Backers of Immigration Bill More Optimistic

[The_Elucidator]

Backers of Immigration Bill More Optimistic

Lawmakers Cite Sense of Urgency


By Jonathan Weisman (http://projects.washingtonpost.com/staff/email/jonathan+weisman/)
Washington Post Staff Writer

Monday, June 4, 2007; Page A01


After a week at home with their constituents, the Senate architects of a delicate immigration compromise are increasingly convinced that they will hold together this week to pass an overhaul of the nation's immigration laws, with momentum building behind one unifying theme: Today's immigration system is too broken to go unaddressed.

Congress's week-long Memorial Day recess was expected to leave the bill in tatters. But with a week of action set to begin today, the legislation's champions say they believe that the voices of opposition, especially from conservatives, represent a small segment of public opinion. Sen. Jon Kyl (http://projects.washingtonpost.com/congress/members/k000352/) (R-Ariz.), who led negotiations on the bill for his party, said the flood of angry calls and protests that greeted the deal two weeks ago has since receded every day.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/06/03/AR2007060301455.html?hpid%3Dtopnews&sub=AR

Well folks it looks as if they have completely lost touch with reality!!! They are now resorting to push polling and lying to get this bill through.

Anyone else here have a change in heart about this bill.... Show of hands? Anyone... Buehler?

"You just have to recognize you will get 300 calls, you'll get conflicts at town hall meetings -- all of them negative," said Rep. Jeff Flake (http://projects.washingtonpost.com/congress/members/f000444/) (R-Ariz.), who consulted with Kyl and hopes to carry a similar deal through the House in July. "The last few days have really turned things around."

Evidently you are not allowed to stop calling during a National Holiday week where all our kids are done with school and getting ready to go on vacation. This is seen as a sign that we conservatives are ready for a compromise.

[Dowple]

Let them go ahead. There is one good thing about this amnesty bill. It is a gigantic over-reach. The only times the international Left is ever stopped is when they get giddy and over-reach. This bill does it. Worse is better.

[PaulRevere]

They think that after initial outcries, all will be forgiven and/or forgotten and they can go back to screwing us over again and again and again.

Then they will expect us to go vote for them as if we would have voted them back into office if they were up for reelection in 2006. How soon they forget about that electoral debacle. Foolish losers hellbent on repeating their recent mistakes while expecting a different outcome.

[maxparrish]

What the hell is wrong with these people? They are giddy because people are exhausted in communicating their rage, AS if they think people will forget? They gobbel up contrived polls and LIE to themselves that "Okay the bill is BAD but it is URGENT we pass it" - how can someone live with a two year olds brain?

Frankly I always thought the traitors would hold together - but they have not swayed a single doubter. KYL (and Flake) is the WORST BLOW...a man that entered the negotiations, got his pockets cleaned, permitted Kennedy's people to write the bill, and certified a gaint new wave to enter the US.

This man ought to be horsewhipped in the public square. He ought to be exiled to Mexico. I can't believe the degree of denial the prune brained nitwits can shamelessly advocate.

Diane Fienstien said she have NEVER had the volume of calls, except back in 1992...AT THAT IS FROM LIBERAL CALIFORNIA!

I am not stunned they don't give a shit - I am just stunned how stupid someone can sound AND they think they are making sense.

[Wolfcounsel]

This bill will be overturned by The People. You assholes in Congress who are feverish to pass this bullshit can kiss your jobs good bye!

[uncommon1]

After reading that article this morning, I decided that I should let the Senator from Arizona know that we haven't forgotten. My little note to the asshole:
Jon:
The reason why the mail has slowed down is because the American public thought it got its message to you in no uncertain terms. The bottom line is this: You and your cohorts are getting ready to sell the American public down the river for what you anticipate will be a quick fix to the problem of illegal immigration. Well, that's exactly what was sold to the American public in 1986. George Santayana reminded us that those who forget history are doomed to repeat it. I for one, don't give a rat's ass about granting permanent residence, amnesty, citizenship, or whatever it is you want to call this plan that is nothing more than a Teddy Kennedy screw up that will kill not only the Republican party, but it will essentially saddle my kids and their kids with trillions of dollars of tax liability so that you and the rest of the crooks in Washington can continue to sit back and tell us what a great job you're doing. Well, we're tired of bending over and taking it up the ass just for political expediency. How about putting <?xml:namespace prefix = st1 ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-comhttp://www.freeconservatives.com/vb/ /><st1:country-region w:st=America</st1:country-region> first? Why the hell did you get elected in the first place? I thought that you were elected to serve your constituents and not a bunch of people who flaunt American law! You can bet your sorry ass that I will contribute to whomever runs against you next time you're up for election. It's because of people like you that the Republican party is in trouble. I thought the only self serving asshole from <st1:State w:st="on">Arizona</st1:State> was John McCain. I guess I'm wrong. Thanks for pushing your bill to screw all honest, hard-working Americans! ASSHOLE!
P.S. Oh yes, I'm still mad and so is the rest of <st1:country-region w:st="on">America,</st1:country-region> but you haven't pulled your head out of your ass long enough to hear it or listen to the cries of the people.

[Dowple]

You assholes in Congress who are feverish to pass this bullshit can kiss your jobs good bye!

Found 'em

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[The_Elucidator]

Found 'em

http://www.websters-online-dictionary.org/coreimages/digital+art/49487_7909_by_eof.jpg

I can name each one of those Senators by name!

[Dowple]

Something I've observed the past few days. I don't know if it's a trend or a strategy. But certain neocon Bush apologists, F. Barnes, G. Will, and a Republican female "strategist" I heard on Scarborough, are peddling a line on immigration that goes thus: Conservatives are not really mad at Bush over immigration. The anger you are supposedly seeing actually has to do with Bush not following the correct (that is, the neocon one) strategy for fighting the war in Iraq. Conservatives are expressing themselves through immigration, you see? Sublimated dissatisfaction with Iraq has created an irrational objection to a reasonable immigration bill.

I can't link to it, because I only watched/saw them say it. They get to have their cake and eat it, too. They support their open borders immigration flood and get to blame Bush for failing to hand out enough lollipops in Iraq. Consequently removing them from any responsibility for their advice on Iraq in the first place. Slimey little slugs, they are.

[d'urville]

That just further indicates that they don't understand how conservatives think - if they're dissatisfied with the Iraq War, they "express" that dissatisfaction directly, never displacing it.

Bush, Kyl, Chambliss, McCain et al, the delusions abound. From the WaPo article:

Such amendments will be difficult to resist for the compromise's chief Democratic architect, Sen. Edward M. Kennedy (http://projects.washingtonpost.com/congress/members/k000105/) (Mass. (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/related-topics.html/Massachusetts?tid=informline)), who helped create the family unification system in 1965 and whom conservatives are now counting on to help dismantle it.

Why would they ever think Kennedy would help them dismantle his program that benefits his party only?

And about some of those amendments, like this:

One, sponsored by Sen. John Cornyn (http://projects.washingtonpost.com/congress/members/c001056/) (R-Tex.), would expand the list of crimes making illegal immigrants ineligible for legalization. Cornyn has emphasized infractions such as gang activity and "aggravated felonies."


You can't even reason, much less compromise with people who think:


Its ostensible purpose is to “close a gaping loophole” that Mr. Cornyn says would allow terrorists, gang members and sex offenders into the country. But his real target is bigger than that. He had no appetite for the bipartisan compromise and now wants to destroy it by attacking one of its pillars: a path to legal status for an estimated 12 million immigrants.

Mr. Cornyn would do this by significantly expanding the universe of offenses that make someone ineligible for legalization. Some people who used fake identity papers — a huge portion of the undocumented population — would be disqualified. The amendment would also expand the definition of “aggravated felonies,” an already overbroad category of crimes, to include the act of entering or re-entering the country illegally

link (http://www.nytimes.com/2007/06/04/opinion/04mon1.html?_r=1&hp&oref=slogin)

that you're just a bigot and a nativist if you disgree with that. There's no baseline for sanity here.