View Full Version : Amnesty Defeated ! 46 Yea, 53 Nay. Smashing Victory!
maxparrish
06-27-2007, 07:10 PM
From Ms. Malkin and others it seems that the bruising session has created a few more switches. Perhaps not enough though, but still...
1) Domineci of New Mexico says he will vote against cloture (gain)
2) Bond said he would vote against cloture if his amendment failed. It did (gain)
3) Burr of North Carolina said he will vote against cloture (gain).
WE NEED TWO MORE:
4) Coleman has implied strongly (but not clearly) that if his amendments failed he would vote against cloture (it did) gain?
5) Webb said he 'likely' would vote against cloture (gain?)
6) Menendez said he is thinking about it... not sure (don't count on him).
VERY LONG SHOTS:
Dodd is a long-shot, his amendment failed.
Boxer is a long-shot, she said she is not sure (don't count on the dumb dwarf though ).
Ensign (R- Nevada) is a long-shot, but he is getting lots of pressure for both his State and his bosses (Martinez)
Even Graham suggested he might change if his amendment fails (he's one of the liars, so unlikely).
So IF all the cards fall right: Dominici, Burr, Bond, Webb, and Coleman.
Chances are we will fall short one or two...but it should be close.
d'urville
06-27-2007, 07:59 PM
This is painful to have to say, but it might be up to Jim Webb.
The three you named - Domenici (surpise), Bond, and Burr are definite switches, but Nelson (D-NE) told NR earlier today that he'd probably vote "no' on the cloture vote tomorrow, and now he's gone on record:
"Enough is enough. There have been seven cloture votes I've voted yes on. This is an extraordinary circumstance. But enough is enough. ... This clay pigeon is looking like a dead duck," Nelson said.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,286973,00.html
If it could've gotten through tomorrow's vote, it'd been a fait accompli Friday, 41<51.
The following are the others thinking of bailing:
Democratic Sens. Mark Pryor, Jim Webb, Jeff Bingaman, Robert Menendez and Republican Sens. Ted Stevens, Lisa Murkowski, Pete Domenici, Judd Gregg and John Ensign.
FOX NEWS also claimes they overheard Reid saying he was "stuck" now - more like he hit himself in the face with a clay pigeon.
Might as well call it now, momentum and all. It's going down flames.
maxparrish
06-28-2007, 07:32 AM
What a difference a 1/2 hour makes. In the last half hour of the Senate's session a number of amendments failed that swing Senators submitted. In addition, the clay pidgeon imperial rule of King Harry was broken when a single amendment was NOT tabled - thus restoring the Senator's rights.
As D'urville reports, Senators have had enough. The very likely NO votes are:
Domenci
Bond
Burr
Nelson
The fith vote may be from Webb. Coleman has implied he might sink the bill (although NOT in a clear statement); and several more are leaning that way.
Malkin identified the KEY Senators as:
Christopher Bond (R-MO) (202) 224-5721
Sam Brownback (R-KS) (202) 224-6521
Richard Burr (R-NC) (202) 224-3154
Larry Craig (R-ID) (202) 224-2752
John Ensign (R-NV) (202) 224-6244
Mitch McConnell (R-KY) (202) 224-2541
Lisa Murkowski (R-AK) (202) 224-6665
Of note: A source tells John Hawkins that Linsdey Graham-nesty is “running scared.” (http://www.rightwingnews.com/mt331/2007/06/the_inside_story_on_whats_happ.php) Keep running.
Last minute deal making will turn this into either a very close vote OR a rout of the Amnesty Senators. Stay tuned...
maxparrish
06-28-2007, 08:19 AM
National Review reports that Ensign will vote AGAINST cloture today. IF SO, he may be the 5th vote...things are looking much better.
Vote in 20 minutes.
The_Elucidator
06-28-2007, 08:41 AM
Senate switchboards boards shutdown because of OVERWHELMING RESPONSE! Lets keep up the hard work my brothers and sisters!!!
Antigone
06-28-2007, 09:00 AM
Malkin identified the KEY Senators as:
Christopher Bond (R-MO) (202) 224-5721
Sam Brownback (R-KS) (202) 224-6521
Richard Burr (R-NC) (202) 224-3154
Larry Craig (R-ID) (202) 224-2752
John Ensign (R-NV) (202) 224-6244
Mitch McConnell (R-KY) (202) 224-2541
Lisa Murkowski (R-AK) (202) 224-6665
You can write Craig off. He WILL NOT change his vote. If you look at his record you will see he supports this bill and others like it 100%. I don't know if he buys into the corporations telling him Southern Idaho agriculture will dry up if the illegals go away or what, but if he changes his vote you can bet hell just froze over.
maxparrish
06-28-2007, 09:25 AM
UNLESS I am missing some part of this roll call, it sounds like a rout might be developing AGAINST SHAMNESTY. ALREADY we have several votes more than needed.
STAY TUNED!!!!
Antigone
06-28-2007, 09:28 AM
Votes for these Senators so far:
Christopher Bond (R-MO) (202) 224-5721
Sam Brownback (R-KS) (202) 224-6521 NO
Richard Burr (R-NC) (202) 224-3154 NO
Larry Craig (R-ID) (202) 224-2752
John Ensign (R-NV) (202) 224-6244
Mitch McConnell (R-KY) (202) 224-2541 NO
Lisa Murkowski (R-AK) (202) 224-6665 YES
Crapo from Idaho was the FIRST to vote no. Go Crapo!!
46 to 53. Not agreed to!!!!!!!!
Madbomber
06-28-2007, 09:28 AM
53 nays YAY
Wolfcounsel
06-28-2007, 09:29 AM
53 no to 46 aye.
maxparrish
06-28-2007, 09:40 AM
VICTORY VICTORY VICTORY!!!!!!!
AMNESTY IS KILLED TILL AFTER 2008. AMNESTY SUPPORTERS SAW HAND WRITING ON THE WALL AND RAN LIKE SCALDED DOGS!
MCCONNELL, ENSIGN, COLEMAN, WEBB, PRYOR, FLED A SINKING SHIP, WRONG-WAY BROWNBACK REPORTEDLY VOTED YEA...(BUT THAT NEEDS TO BE CONFIRMED).
MCCAIN AND GRAHAM FINISHED. DUMP GOOBER 08!
SHAMNESTY, GRAHAMESTY, AND AMNESTY DEAD DEAD DEAD.
DAMN, WHERE IS THAT BOTTLE OF SCOTCH?
Lazarus
06-28-2007, 10:03 AM
DO NOT TEASE ME!!! IM TOO OLD FOR THIS SHIT!!!
Did we win or not???????
maxparrish
06-28-2007, 10:12 AM
By now you should know (if listening to Rush) YES WE WON BIG!
Now get ready for the promise to shut down talk radio.
Wyatt_Junker
06-28-2007, 10:24 AM
http://www.mrsmcgowan.com/town/images/alamo.jpg
Maggie_T
06-28-2007, 10:28 AM
THE BILL IS DEAD!!! DING, DONG, THE BILL IS DEAD!!!!
POWER TO THE PEOPLE!!!!!
Oh, my Lord, I heart this while I was on the elliptical. I nearly fell off it. I let out a big whoo-hoo, much to the alarm of the woman on the treamill. :D
I'm so exhilarated. The political elites on both sides of the aisles must be scared shitless. The people have spoken and told them what to do. Fancy that. :evilgrin:
Maggie_T
06-28-2007, 10:29 AM
By now you should know (if listening to Rush) YES WE WON BIG!
Now get ready for the promise to shut down talk radio.
ABOSLUTELY! Guys, this is but one battle. The war is still going on.
RELOAD! AIM! KEEP SHOOTING! :evilgrin:
Wyatt_Junker
06-28-2007, 10:40 AM
For some reason I'm thinking about Passover, except in my passover I am going around painting the foreheads of the senators who voted 'yay' blood red.
It looks like this right between their eyes.
http://www.pmichaud.com/2006/pres/yapc-apl/images/04311152942_target_logo1.jpg
We can't stop here. The Alamo was only a stop gap for the greater battle. We need to have a giant duckshoot in the next election to drive this point all the way home permanently. You said YAY like the retarded fuk you are, you pay for it. We send you home. Adults shouldn't say YAY anyway. They sound ridiculous.
And hey, its not like any 6 year old couldn't do these people's jobs. Its easier'n sliding in a pile o' runny stool at an Ex Lax convention. Reid(D-Traitor) and Kennedy(D-Chivas) brained by cliches, will probably both start calling the NAYS racists as usual now.
I would love to see both of them retired in '08 forever, sharing the same golf cart(if it were possible ~ check Ted Kennedy's ass).
But, you see, voting this in wasn't as easy as voting yourself a raise. Seems the American people(far right) still love their country. Too bad George Bush for you.
Now, let's build the fukin wall people. This isn't the win we think it is unless we follow through. I don't want to press uno por ingles any more. I don't want to see lowriders cruising down my street and I don't want to see anymore ERs closing in suburban shitholes because of the 'pinto bean' effect.
This is only step one.
Beowulf
06-28-2007, 10:45 AM
I just wake up, sit down with a cup of coffee before work and I hear this news. My day has started out great!!
maxparrish
06-28-2007, 11:22 AM
For some reason I'm thinking about Passover, except in my passover I am going around painting the foreheads of the senators who voted 'yay' blood red.
It looks like this right between their eyes.
http://www.pmichaud.com/2006/pres/yapc-apl/images/04311152942_target_logo1.jpg
We can't stop here. The Alamo was only a stop gap for the greater battle. We need to have a giant duckshoot in the next election to drive this point all the way home permanently. You said YAY like the retarded fuk you are, you pay for it. We send you home. Adults shouldn't say YAY anyway. They sound ridiculous.
And hey, its not like any 6 year old couldn't do these people's jobs. Its easier'n sliding in a pile o' runny stool at an Ex Lax convention. Reid(D-Traitor) and Kennedy(D-Chivas) brained by cliches, will probably both start calling the NAYS racists as usual now.
I would love to see both of them retired in '08 forever, sharing the same golf cart(if it were possible ~ check Ted Kennedy's ass).
But, you see, voting this in wasn't as easy as voting yourself a raise. Seems the American people(far right) still love their country. Too bad George Bush for you.
Now, let's build the fukin wall people. This isn't the win we think it is unless we follow through. I don't want to press uno por ingles any more. I don't want to see lowriders cruising down my street and I don't want to see anymore ERs closing in suburban shitholes because of the 'pinto bean' effect.
This is only step one.
If I said these maroooons had sh*& for brains, I'd be insulting to sh&*.
Both Reid and Kennedy are merely slightly less advanced versions of Byrd Syndrome, emotive and subjective lobe impaired primates - individuals whose reptile brain has assmed control of most nueral activity, the higher functions being either missing or browned out.
By the way, I just caught Reid's tirade over the Supreme Court's opinion on racial discrimination. Once more, the yogurt for brains gurggled a fanciful claim on Brown vs. Board of Education.
Lazarus
06-28-2007, 11:49 AM
People listen up... This victory occurred not because some Senators decided to do the right thing... This occurred because just like in 1776 some patriots stood in the gap and took a stand for self-determination... This victory happened because the American citizens stood up and demanded their government back!
This pushes the issue right straight to the middle of the presidential election - They cant sweep it under the rug... The 2006-2007 campaign season is going to be our war for Reaffirmation of our Independence from despots and kings...
This is OUR government, by Gawd! A government BY THE PEOPLE, and today the people banged their fists on the door of the Senate and demanded to be OBEYED!!!
Now we need to go on the Offensive... We should start a campaign to encourge those Americans in the states of South Carolina, Mississippi, Arizona, etc., to start Recall motions to remove those traitors who tried to sell our heritage...
Top of the Hit List:
Trent Lott
Lindsey Graham
John McCain
These evil men must GO!
As much as I loathe and despise Ted Kennedy, at least he doesn't lie and try to hide his position as King Liberal Looney... But if I was face to face today with Trent Lott it would take every fiber of strength and willpower to not punch that treasonous bastard who would rule over us and make us his slaves...
There will be no resurrection of the "Anti-Free-Speech Doctrine" when these cowards are running for their political lives...
Sic gorgiamus allos subiectatos nunc!
We gladly feast on those who would subdue us!:flame:
Wolfcounsel
06-28-2007, 11:53 AM
"As much as I loathe and despise Ted Kennedy, at least he doesn't lie and try to hide his position as King Liberal Looney..." -Lazarus
He still needs to show us his greatest virtue after this victory--His shortened life in the Senate. This also could stroke him out.
Lazarus
06-28-2007, 12:01 PM
He still needs to show us his greatest virtue after this victory--His shortened life in the Senate. This also could stroke him out.We will have to leave that to God... I'll defer to his righteous decision on Teddy... But if God is handing out strokes, I have a wish list to give him... And dont think for one minute this one hasn't already been talkin to him about it...
Lazarus
06-28-2007, 12:06 PM
Breaking News!!! This Just In!!!
Sen. Trent Lott is proposing an amendment to the Fairness Doctrine making the Senate Switchboard an unlisted number to the General Public...
:biggrin:
:boogie:
Credit to Mrs Lazarus for that witicism...
maxparrish
06-28-2007, 12:08 PM
People listen up... This victory happened because the American citizens stood up and demanded their government back!
... The 2006-2007 campaign season is going to be our war for Reaffirmation of our Independence from despots and kings...
This is OUR government, by Gawd! A government BY THE PEOPLE, and today the people banged their fists on the door of the Senate and demanded to be OBEYED!!!
Now we need to go on the Offensive... We should start a campaign to encourage those Americans in the states of South Carolina, Mississippi, Arizona, etc., to start Recall motions to remove those traitors who tried to sell our heritage...
Top of the Hit List:
Trent Lott
Lindsey Graham
John McCain
These evil men must GO!
...
Sic gorgiamus allos subiectatos nunc!
We gladly feast on those who would subdue us!:flame:
I love the quote, know where it comes from?
I don't think you can recall federal office holders; no federal law permits removal from office except under a limited set of constitutional circumstances and processes.
However, Graham will be up for election in 2008, as will Hagel. Both can be replaced easily. Graham is, according to press reports, running scared. Hagel is already considered defeated by a GOP challenger (former Att General).
McCain is finished as a Presidential contender - hopefully he and Lott will consider early retirement. Both of these fools will be defeated when their term comes (hopefully not by a secure the borders Democrat).
Claire McCaskill (D) of Missouri shows intelligence and wisdom. She beat waffle cake Talent (R) and ran on a very strong "secure the borders" platform - and she meant it. Unlike that other pinhead Missouri Senator (Bond (R)), she did not waiver and always voted against amnesty. She bragged that she was NOT going to change her view, even if Harry Reid wanted it.
So why don't Republicans get it? EVERY blue dog democrat ran on a strong borders platform and they won 30 seats. But GOP candidates hem and haw...cry and moan...and get defeated.
Lazarus
06-28-2007, 12:59 PM
I love the quote, know where it comes from?Actually it comes from the Adams Family Movie:rotflmbo:... But the first time I heard it I decided it was a motto worthy of American patriots...:thumb:
I don't think you can recall federal office holders; no federal law permits removal from office except under a limited set of constitutional circumstances and processes..Well (after a little research)apparently you are right, Max... Once again the elitist bastards in Congress have elevated themselves to privilaged status above the unwashed masses... They also exepmt themselves from practically every single law they pass on US...
Its time the People of America took back their government... Its high time we sent representatives of the PEOPLE to Washington and repealed all these Congressional Privilage laws...
Maggie_T
06-28-2007, 01:09 PM
You can write Craig off. He WILL NOT change his vote. If you look at his record you will see he supports this bill and others like it 100%. I don't know if he buys into the corporations telling him Southern Idaho agriculture will dry up if the illegals go away or what, but if he changes his vote you can bet hell just froze over.
That's why we have to sack the bastard, Antigone.
Maggie_T
06-28-2007, 01:19 PM
And hey, its not like any 6 year old couldn't do these people's jobs. Its easier'n sliding in a pile o' runny stool at an Ex Lax convention. Reid(D-Traitor) and Kennedy(D-Chivas) brained by cliches, will probably both start calling the NAYS racists as usual now.
They've already started. Actually, the bastards have been doing that for weeks.
I would love to see both of them retired in '08 forever, sharing the same golf cart ...
With Teddy at the wheel. And then, make them drive on a bridge over troubled waters ... and let history repeat itself. :evilgrin: Only this time, Teddy DOES NOT get away with murder.
But, you see, voting this in wasn't as easy as voting yourself a raise. Seems the American people(far right) still love their country. Too bad George Bush for you.
Yep. His Forking Majesty blew it. Pity that.
Now, let's build the fukin wall people. This isn't the win we think it is unless we follow through. I don't want to press uno por ingles any more. I don't want to see lowriders cruising down my street and I don't want to see anymore ERs closing in suburban shitholes because of the 'pinto bean' effect.
This is only step one.
AMEN! You can't say that enough. Let the war continue!
MrSanity
06-28-2007, 01:24 PM
I feel like an American again.
We can count on the Fairness Doctrine to be the next big shove, as it's evidently underway. However, the news is a huge step in the right direction.
As I sit here, I'm hoping that this time I will have a chance to finish a fresh bottle of wine before amnesty is back. Last time, I didn't make it very far.
I feel as though my voice was heard - Senator VOINOVICH of all people voted to end the debate! He must have gotten enough letters like mine.
Sadly, his comments on the Sean Hannity show regarding the fairness doctrine suggest that politically active civilians are better informed than our representatives.
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