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Rhino
06-29-2007, 07:38 AM
Teen Driver in Fatal Crash Had Junior License
Friday, June 29, 2007

ROCHESTER, N.Y. — State records show the driver in the crash that killed her and four teenage friends in western New York had only a junior driver's license, which made it illegal for her to be driving at that hour or carrying so many young passengers in her vehicle.

Bailey Goodman, 17, had a Class DJ license, which places added restrictions on the privileges for New York drivers under 18, authorities told the Rochester Democrat & Chronicle.

Goodman and four other recent graduates of Fairport High School in suburban Rochester, all 17 or 18, died when the sport utility vehicle she was driving collided head-on with a tractor-trailer in the Finger Lakes region of New York on Tuesday at about 10 p.m. That was an hour later than state law permitted her to drive.

According to the state Department of Motor Vehicles, junior drivers cannot drive after 9 p.m. without a parent, guardian or someone performing parental duties, unless they're going to work or school. They also cannot carry more than two passengers under 21 unless they're members of the immediate family....http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,287299,00.html

JohnSteel
06-29-2007, 04:44 PM
I have to wonder how much her driving a sports utility vehicle contributed to her crash. Or her being a driver of one. In my experence SUV, van, and pickup truck drivers, and similar vehicles are far, far more likely to take risks when driving. 99% of the reckless drivers that I have seen drive those type of vehicles. This is all over the news where I live and every time I see or hear it I wonder if it was really a "freak accident" like they have been saying or if she was messing round on the road.

DesertFox
06-29-2007, 05:24 PM
99% of the reckless drivers that I have seen drive those type of vehicles. My experience is the reverse. I seldom see an SUV driver taking dumb chances. I regularly see silly chances being taken by drivers of old cars, ATV's and pickup trucks.

The car you drive doesn't run the risks. The driver does.

Madbomber
06-29-2007, 05:30 PM
Darwin strikes again.

HomeschoolrsRUs
06-29-2007, 06:40 PM
Yeah, blame the vehicle. Sheesh! :rolleyes: Has nothing to do with the fact she was breaking the requirement restrictions of her license. To borrow (and slightly rephrase) from the venerable Larry the Cable Guy:

"If SUV's kill people, I can blame misspelled words on my pencil!"

Wolfcounsel
06-29-2007, 06:55 PM
Yes. What's with that "certain vehicles kill people" baloney? Is that like more criminals use so-and-so type of gun in crimes?

Timberwolf
06-29-2007, 08:29 PM
Yeah, blame the vehicle. Sheesh! :rolleyes: Has nothing to do with the fact she was breaking the requirement restrictions of her license. To borrow (and slightly rephrase) from the venerable Larry the Cable Guy:

"If guns SUV's kill people, I can blame misspelled words on my pencil!"
And Rosie can blame silverware for her...ummm...beam being a bit on the broad side...yeah, that's it. She a bit broad across the beam. (For those of you in Rio Linda, that means she has a HUGE rear end).

The_Elucidator
06-30-2007, 08:13 AM
In my experence SUV, van, and pickup truck drivers, and similar vehicles are far, far more likely to take risks when driving. 99% of the reckless drivers that I have seen drive those type of vehicles.

??????????

John, you need to get out and experience more! While I have seen the occasional red neck drive crazy down an old dirt road or an obscure Farm to Market road here in Texas, that doesn't even come close to the majority of reckless driving I see from many teens and young adults driving Mustangs, and other various passenger cars on main roads and highways! And this is from someone who has lived in the East, North, West and South with the Midwest thrown in there. Sorry I don't buy the evil SUV BS.

Rhino
07-02-2007, 07:16 AM
:yeahthat:

JohnSteel
07-02-2007, 04:17 PM
My experience is the reverse. I seldom see an SUV driver taking dumb chances. I regularly see silly chances being taken by drivers of old cars, ATV's and pickup trucks.

The car you drive doesn't run the risks. The driver does.

It must be the culture around here. Just this Sunday morning there was another one. Some people are crazy.

Rhino
07-03-2007, 09:10 AM
I saw one this morning too. I also saw several cars engaging in the same reckless activity. Nobody is saying that some SUV drivers don't do stupid things sometimes, only that they don't nearly have the market cornered on it. The most prevalent incidences I see of such behavior is perpetrated by young drivers, mostly teenagers. But very few of them drive SUVs. In essence, the vehicle has nothing to do with it. It's the drivers.

HomeschoolrsRUs
07-03-2007, 10:20 AM
In essence, the vehicle has nothing to do with it. It's the drivers.

:claps:

Rhino
07-16-2007, 07:49 AM
Text Messaging May Be Factor in Fatal Teen Car Crash
Sunday, July 15, 2007

CANANDAIGUA, N.Y. — Text messages were sent and received on a 17-year-old driver's cell phone moments before the sport utility vehicle slammed head-on into a truck, killing her and four other recent high school graduates, police said.

Bailey Goodman was driving her friends to her parents' vacation home when her SUV, which had just passed a car, swerved back into oncoming traffic, hit a tractor-trailer and burst into flames. Five days earlier, the five teenagers had graduated together from high school in Fairport, a Rochester suburb.

Goodman's inexperience at the wheel; evidence she was driving above the speed limit at night on a winding, two-lane highway; and a succession of calls and text messages on her phone were cited...http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,289365,00.html

BabyBeastie
07-16-2007, 08:59 AM
Ontario County Sheriff Phil Povero said Bailey Goodman, who was driving the SUV, sent a text message out at 10:05:02pm. She was texting a friend who lived in Canandaigua. She received a response at 10:06:29pm. Sheriff Povero said the first 911 call was made at 10:07:07pm.LINK (http://www.9wsyr.com/content/news/breakingnews.aspx?content_id=5f45495a-774c-4e25-8c32-46a8b74244c6)