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m8_of_doom
08-04-2007, 10:45 PM
Other than the crippling social ineptitude.

HomeschoolrsRUs
08-04-2007, 11:08 PM
Other than the crippling social ineptitude.

Talk about a fallacy, you've just dropped a whopper.

DoctorDoom
08-04-2007, 11:27 PM
Indeed, EVERY child should be exposed to the wonderful social atmosphere of drugs, violence, intimidation, bullying, gangs, and all those other blessings that can only be found in gumbint "schools". :rolleyes:

Trovalor
08-04-2007, 11:39 PM
Umm, i dunno, Educational control? Hands on involvement and development? Working at the child's pace? Being able to recognize learning problems a lot quicker than a teacher in a class of 30+ might? Shall I go on?

Contrary to your belief, you can still involve your child in many social activities. In fact, if your child's only social involvement with other children is during school, I would constitute that as a failure on the part of the parent. Anti-social children are typically the result of trauma suffered at the hands of their parents (typically abuse, but not always).

PrezLeefun
08-05-2007, 01:07 AM
Most public schools are cestpools of liberalism, immoral behavior, and less learning than a home with a responsible parent who is qualified to teach.

And for the record....I was not homeschooled.

master01
08-30-2007, 11:54 PM
Studies by Cornell University Professor Urie Bronfenbrenner suggest that, at least until age 10 or 12, students who spend more time with other children their age than with their parents tend to rely on other children for their values. The result? They tend to have a lower sense of self-worth, of optimism, of respect for their parents, and, ironically, even of trust in their peers. If Bronfenbrenner is correct, this is one of the major, and unrecognized, reasons for the growing dysfunction of much adolescent behavior.

Wolfcounsel
08-31-2007, 07:17 AM
That's Kindergarten through sixth or seventh grade. I don't believe it, though. All our kids were public schooled, and they relied on their parents only. Maybe kids who rely on their friends instead of their parents have parents who want to be their children's buddies instead of mommy and daddy? I'm curious how the professor gathered his finding.

HomeschoolrsRUs
08-31-2007, 01:05 PM
Studies by Cornell University Professor Urie Bronfenbrenner suggest that, at least until age 10 or 12, students who spend more time with other children their age than with their parents tend to rely on other children for their values. The result? They tend to have a lower sense of self-worth, of optimism, of respect for their parents, and, ironically, even of trust in their peers. If Bronfenbrenner is correct, this is one of the major, and unrecognized, reasons for the growing dysfunction of much adolescent behavior.

I ABSOLUTELY believe it. Influence is about time spent absorbing it, not about the false claims of "quality time" with parents. You spend a majority of your time around a certain influence it WIlL do just that. Values aren't just obtained from words, they're mostly obtained from witness and action.

So many complain about the violent and sexual nature of media influences, rightly decrying their effects on children and youth. But they are not the ONLY things which negatively influence them, being around OTHER children who have been soaking up those negative influences only adds fuel to the existing fire.

There are exceptions to every rule, and certainly their are "good kids" despite what goes on in the public school system, but lets face it the odds are agains them, not with them.

Timberwolf
08-31-2007, 01:23 PM
That's Kindergarten through sixth or seventh grade. I don't believe it, though. All our kids were public schooled, and they relied on their parents only. Maybe kids who rely on their friends instead of their parents have parents who want to be their children's buddies instead of mommy and daddy? I'm curious how the professor gathered his finding.
I think a lot of it would depend upon how involved mom & dad are in junior's and missy's education...and how much they talk about THEIR values and how their friend's values are wrong...just a guess.

Rhino
08-31-2007, 01:36 PM
Dr. Raymond Moore, author of over 60 books and articles on human development, has done extensive research on homeschooling and socialization. His book, The Hurried Child, should be in every homeschooler's library. "The idea that children need to be around many other youngsters in order to be 'socialized,'" Dr. Moore writes, "is perhaps the most dangerous and extravagant myth in education and child rearing today."...

...In July 2000, the Discovery Institute, a Seattle-based think-tank, published an extensive report on homeschooling written by Senior Fellow Dr. Patricia Lines. She describes several controlled studies comparing the social skills of homeschoolers and nonhomeschoolers.

The homeschoolers scored as "well adjusted." In one study, trained counselors viewed videotapes of mixed groups of homeschooled and schooled children at play. The counselors didn't know the school status of each child. The results? The homeschooled kids demonstrated fewer behavioral problems. Dr. Lines' conclusion? "There is no basis to question the social development of homeschooled children." ...http://www.familyeducation.com/article/0,1120,58-17910,00.html

Rhino
08-31-2007, 01:43 PM
In 1992, Prof. Larry Shyers assessed whether or
not home schooled children suffer from retarded
social development. His research observed children
in free play and group interaction activities.
Shyers found that public school children had significantly
more problem behaviours than did the
home schooled. Possibly this is because the primary
models of behaviour for the home schooled
are their parents, rather than their peers. Shyers
also concluded that there was no significant difference
between home schooled and non-home
schooled children in terms of either self-concept
development or assertiveness (Shyers, 1992).

Commenting on his ongoing investigation into
the long-term effects of home schooling, education
policy researcher J. Gary Knowles pronounced,
“I have found no evidence that these
adults were even moderately disadvantaged…
Two thirds of them were married, the norm for
adults their age, and none were unemployed or
any on any form of welfare assistance” (Knowles,
1991). According to Prof. Thomas C. Smedley’s
personal interaction and communications research,
home schooled students are more mature
and better socialized than are those sent to either
public or private school (Smedley, 1992). Data has
also been collected suggesting that home
schooled students are friendlier than their public
school peers, as well as more independent of peer
values as they grow older. Research by Dr. Raymond
Moore has indicated that the home
schooled are happier, better adjusted, more
thoughtful, competent, and sociable children
(Moore, 1986).

The list of benefits to the home-schooled appears
to exceed even its academic and social advantages.
For example, Prof. John Taylor (1986)
found that the home schooled have significantly
higher self-esteem than those in public schools.
According to Prof. Mona Delahooke (1986), the
home schooled are less peer dependent than private
school students, and the home schooled are
as well adjusted, socially and emotionally, as
their private school agemates. Prof. Linda Montgomery
(1989) found that home schooled students
are as involved in out-of-school and
extracurricular activities that predict leadership
in adulthood as are those in the comparison private
school (who are more involved than those in
public schools).http://www.fraserinstitute.ca/admin/books/files/homeschool.pdf

HomeschoolrsRUs
08-31-2007, 04:58 PM
:biggrin:

TeenageRepublican
08-31-2007, 06:25 PM
Other than the crippling social ineptitude.

Golly, you are an idiot, aren't you? Home Schooled kids are, well, most of the time smarter. Maybe it's because most of public schooled kids don't have the ability to pay attention. Don't ask why. If they are home-schooled, the parents have an advantage of smacking the kid when s/he doesn't pay attention.
P.S. I'm in Public School, and I'm admitting this.

Bluemoon_Rising
02-07-2008, 09:01 PM
Other than the crippling social ineptitude.

Fewer boorish, brainwashed, conformist cutouts like you.

Rhino
02-07-2008, 10:32 PM
Um....Blue, he's banned.

TeenageRepublican
02-07-2008, 11:03 PM
Rhino, it's an ego thing that I think a lot of us have. Just wanted to get the last word so he could feel like he was the tough one.

I do that all the time...

Bluemoon_Rising
02-08-2008, 06:27 PM
Um . . . no, teen. I simply reacted to the idiocy before me and didn't take note of the thread's age. Had I noticed its age, I wouldn't have bothered.

last word

TeenageRepublican
02-09-2008, 11:52 PM
You just offended me, you said idiocy. The correct term is slow mental development of the thread.

Last Word. ;)

DoctorDoom
03-28-2008, 12:56 PM
No, THIS is the last word:

WORD

Timberwolf
03-28-2008, 01:07 PM
Really?