View Full Version : LA Burns Guns to Use For Concrete
TeenageRepublican
08-10-2007, 11:35 AM
LA is burning confinscated firearms to make concrete. I heard this on Jon Caldera, and I called in. Even though the firearms were illegal, and needed a lisence to get them, they could've still been used to sell to legal gun owners. I thought that this was a pure waste of firearms, when I heard the story, I almost cried :sad:, firearms are God's gift to the planet.
So, what do you think? Do you think LA should burn those guns to recycle for concrete?
dPrasse
08-10-2007, 11:44 AM
It'd be better to use liberals in the concrete ...
TeenageRepublican
08-10-2007, 12:11 PM
It'd be better to use liberals in the concrete ...
Yes, but you and I know that out of the ashes of Liberals would come out another. They won't stop...
Rhino
08-10-2007, 01:05 PM
Uh.....you can't make concrete out of guns. Even if you could, all their guns might add up to a couple of bags of concrete. Methinks this is an urban legend or a simple publicity stunt.
DoctorDoom
08-10-2007, 01:29 PM
As long as LA doesn't disarm the wetbacks and the gangs, everything is cool. After all, only cops and criminals should have guns.
Rocketman
08-10-2007, 02:01 PM
Maybe the firearms are being turned into rebar for use in concrete?
Rhino
08-10-2007, 02:13 PM
Doubtful, but possible I guess. Different kind of metal. And again, how many bars of rebar could you make from a gun?
I think this was probably some kind of joke.
TeenageRepublican
08-10-2007, 02:53 PM
Doubtful, but possible I guess. Different kind of metal. And again, how many bars of rebar could you make from a gun?
I think this was probably some kind of joke.
No, actually it wasn't, the link below is the Jon Caldera show of which he discussed it. Before you hear it, you have to sign up for a free screen name, and stuff like that. Then listen to it, it's not a joke.
http://a1135.g.akamai.net/f/1135/18227/1h/cchannel.download.akamai.com/18227/podcast/DENVER-CO/KOA-AM/caldara%207-14-07%2011am.mp3?CPROG=PCAST&MARKET=DENVER-CO&NG_FORMAT=newstalk&SITE_ID=668&STATION_ID=KOA-AM&PCAST_AUTHOR=Jon_Caldara&PCAST_CAT=spoken_word&PCAST_TITLE=KOA-AM_Podcast
Trust, me it isn't
Rhino
08-10-2007, 02:57 PM
Then somebody must have a screw loose. You can't make concrete out of guns. Concrete is made from cement, aggregate and water. Guns have none of those ingredients.
Rhino
08-10-2007, 02:58 PM
Oh yeah, and how exactly do you 'burn' a gun?
TeenageRepublican
08-10-2007, 03:12 PM
Oh yeah, and how exactly do you 'burn' a gun?
I don't know, I remember listening to it and J.C. saying that LA was destroying guns for construction work, or maybe it was concrete. It was a long time ago, so my memory might be wrong.
Rhino
08-10-2007, 03:18 PM
Guns don't burn, except for the wooden stocks or plastic parts. They melt. But again, even if you melted them, they would not produce any ingredient used in concrete. Even if you used the melted steel for construction, the amount realized would be extremely minute.
Hang around here long enough and you'll learn to develop a healthy distrust for anything you hear or see in the media, even sometimes from otherwise trustworthy sources. People make ignorant mistakes all the time. Some are accidental, some are deliberate and some are plain stupid, but they occur quite regularly, and from just about every source.
TeenageRepublican
08-10-2007, 03:27 PM
Guns don't burn, except for the wooden stocks or plastic parts. They melt. But again, even if you melted them, they would not produce any ingredient used in concrete. Even if you used the melted steel for construction, the amount realized would be extremely minute.
Hang around here long enough and you'll learn to develop a healthy distrust for anything you hear or see in the media, even sometimes from otherwise trustworthy sources. People make ignorant mistakes all the time. Some are accidental, some are deliberate and some are plain stupid, but they occur quite regularly, and from just about every source.
Okay, I'll remember to stick around here then.
Beowulf
08-10-2007, 06:11 PM
It'd be better to use liberals in the concrete ...
Almost, Prasse. Encase the Liberals IN the concrete, mafia style!!
buckeyepete
08-10-2007, 08:21 PM
" Almost, Prasse. Encase the Liberals IN the concrete, mafia style!!"--Beo
Yup, just ask Jimmy Hoffa. He's probably part of the casons at the Renissance Center in Detroit. But, I'd guess you'd not get a response.
sunsettommy
08-11-2007, 07:02 AM
LA is burning confinscated firearms to make concrete. I heard this on Jon Caldera, and I called in. Even though the firearms were illegal, and needed a lisence to get them, they could've still been used to sell to legal gun owners. I thought that this was a pure waste of firearms, when I heard the story, I almost cried :sad:, firearms are God's gift to the planet.
So, what do you think? Do you think LA should burn those guns to recycle for concrete?
Well I think "burning" guns to make concrete is impossible.
It they really meant that it was for the rebars it still will not work because "burning" guns does not make rebars.
MELTING would make a lot more sense than "burning".
But rebars require a different type of metal.That does away with guns being used as metal.
I think it was just idle talk on a show since it is baloney to go to all that trouble to incorporate a tiny amount of gun metal into the concrete.Maybe .0000000000001 % of the total amount of metal needed to make rebars.
It would have made more sense to just melt it all at once in a big furnace pot and be done with it.
Symbolic bullshit is what I see here.
DeclinetoState
08-11-2007, 07:33 PM
Oh yeah, and how exactly do you 'burn' a gun?
I dunno, but I've heard you can "fire" them!
BuckeyeMike
08-11-2007, 08:19 PM
Can you fire a gun if it doesn't work?
TeenageRepublican
08-12-2007, 02:21 PM
Can you fire a gun if it doesn't work?
Maybe, you should try it.
Timberwolf
08-12-2007, 08:08 PM
Can you fire a gun if it doesn't work?
Question is, why would you hire it in the first place?? :D
BabyBeastie
08-13-2007, 03:09 AM
A Glock will burn. Ha ha!
Rhino
08-13-2007, 08:11 AM
Not really. Some parts of it will melt, but the internal parts of a Glock are metal. Besides, you still can't make concrete from it.
BabyBeastie
08-13-2007, 12:42 PM
I agree. I was just tryin' to be a smartass. lol
Rhino
08-13-2007, 12:54 PM
Oh, okay.
Smartass!!! :evilgrin:
Faithful_Servant
08-14-2007, 01:32 PM
Any parts that are wood/plastic could be burned to help make Portland cement, but not concrete. The metal parts could be turned into aggregate, but that's pretty dicey due to the issue of rust migration along the metal parts and into the rebar (thin chance, but if it happens, it can be disasterous). Personally, I think that this is nothing more than a publicity stunt that the taxpayers will end up financing.
uncommon1
08-14-2007, 01:52 PM
You can be sure that they aren't doing it with any guns of any value. If you've ever seen the guns that people turn in at those "cash for guns" extravaganzas, the guns are almost all cheaply made and usually as dangerous to the person firing them as those fired upon. I've never seen a Colt, Weatherby, Browning, or other high quality weapon being turned in for a little cash. Those have already been pawned.
Rhino
08-14-2007, 02:54 PM
Any parts that are wood/plastic could be burned to help make Portland cement...I don't see how.
It is a fine powder produced by grinding Portland cement clinker (more than 90%), a maximum of about 5% gypsum which controls the set time, and up to 5% minor constituents (as allowed by various standards). As defined by the European Standard EN197.1, "Portland cement clinker is a hydraulic material which shall consist of at least two-thirds by mass of calcium silicates (3CaO.SiO2 and 2CaO.SiO2), the remainder consisting of aluminium- and iron-containing clinker phases and other compounds.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portland_cement
... but not concrete.Portland cement is an ingredient in concrete.
Faithful_Servant
08-16-2007, 01:16 PM
I don't see how.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portland_cement
Portland cement is an ingredient in concrete.
Right. Portland cement is made by heating certain ores and chemicals (I believe the original stuff was made from limestone) to produce a "clinker", which is finely ground and mixed with other stuff to amek Portlan Cement. The only way that the burning of a gun could possibly help make any element of concrete is by using it as fuel for this heating process. Currently, the primary fuel they use is used tires, so it's possible that someone could actually mix in some plastic stocks, wooden grips, etc. with the tires to help make cement. This is the only way that you even remotely consider burning guns to make concrete.
Rhino
08-16-2007, 01:20 PM
Yeah, extremely remote! LOL!
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