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Alex
08-11-2007, 10:06 AM
A bigot is usually defined as someone who is utterly intolerant of any belief or opinion that differs from his own. In practical terms, bigotry is about how you relate to someone who disagrees with you. People with conservative social and cultural values will almost inevitably be labelled as "bigots" when their liberal opponents have run out of reasoned arguments.

Liberals tend to claim the moral high ground on all matters of "social conscience" and political action. So on what grounds could liberals be accused of bigotry? Are the unquestioning certainties of the liberal mind impervious to the charge of bigotry?

Alex.

HomeschoolrsRUs
08-11-2007, 10:19 AM
Liberals are the epitome of bigotry. They put forth ideas and programs that portray the message that persons of color cannot acheive and succeed without the help of their benefit -- they can't do things on merit, but need "affirmative action" to force others to accept them as is.

Liberals believe people are too stupid to care for themselves and require government care from cradle-to-grave. How much more bigotted can you get?

Oh, you're gong to get some GREAT answers, if others find this thread, :smirky:.

Kathy30
08-11-2007, 12:41 PM
We have something new thought, call it post-bigotry. It has gone beyond the practical term of, bigotry being about how you relate to someone who disagrees with you.

It has moved on to how someone chooses to live their lives. If you are so intolerant of homosexuality that you would not at least make the effort to try homosexuality yourself, then you are a bigot. If, as a white person you do not recognize the inherent superiority of minorities, you are a bigot, no matter what kind of white person you are. In that criteria, a nobel laureate is inferior to Tyrone from South Central serving 20 to life, or Jose from Guadalajara hanging out on the corner peeing in the street.

Look at what I said and consider it carefully, just for making that statement it has the feel of bigotry and racisim.

Naturalized-Texan
08-11-2007, 01:19 PM
Liberals believe that blacks aren't smart enough to compete, so they lower educational standards so that they (the liberals) can pretend that they can. That's pure racism. Even worse, liberals block every effort to improve the quality of education so that everyone can compete without lowering standards. I'm convinced that liberals do that on purpose in order to keep minorities poor and ignorant and dependent on government handouts.

Liberals do the same with Hispanics, but it's even more insidious because liberals believe that Hispanics aren't smart enough to even learn English, so they insist that they be taught in Spanish ensuring that they won't be able to compete in an English-speaking nation.

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In his famous "I Have a Dream" speech on August 28, 1963, Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. said, "I have a dream that my four children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin but by the content of their character." Today, nearly 44 years after Dr. King's speech, liberals still judge people "by the color of their skin," while conservatives still judge people by the "content of their character." Dr. King must be spinning in his grave over what liberals have done to his people.

DoctorDoom
08-11-2007, 02:26 PM
Black liberals are particularly venomous toward self-made blacks who didn't suck up to their massas and whine, "Lawsy me, boss, I cain't do nothin' by ma'se'f. Ah needs yo' he'p!". From the Black Commentator (http://www.blackcommentator.com/) website:

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Liberals are liberals regardless of the level of melanin. And they should all be airdropped onto some remote island where they can feel each other's pain till they starve to death because they don't know jack schitte about doing things for themselves.

Maggie_T
08-11-2007, 02:47 PM
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So. Based on the definition provided by the dictionary, try telling a liberal that

global warming is a hoax

that God actually exists

that homosexuality is a destructive form of life

that the theory of evolution is laughable

that abortion is not a "right," but merely the murder of an innocent unborn child

that there are idiosyncratic differences between men and women, and stating so is not mysoginistic hate-speech

that the mythical "separation of church and state" is NOT in the Constitution

that the citizen's right to bear arms IS

that government is NOT the answer to all problems, but rather the cause of them

that humans are superior to animals

that communism and its Mini-Me, socialism, are, and have throughout History been proven to be, absolute failures

that leftist celebrities are NOT experts on foreign and/or domestic policies, and should therefore, STFU, if only to avoid embarassing themselves

that Michael Moore is a fat, hate-filled, unscrupulous LIAR and SLANDERER

that George W. Bush is not the be all and end all of all evil; neither, for that matter, are any other conservative, heterosexual, single, white males

that Hillary Clinton is a power-crazed bitch of the first water, and NOT as intelligent as she's made out to be

and if liberals don't jump down your throat and start calling you all the names in the book, plus some particularly nasty ones of their own invention, then you can say that liberals are not bigotted.

And if you actually come out of the "debate" unscathed, then chances are you were debating conservatives, not liberals.

Let me know how you did.









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Maggie_T
08-11-2007, 03:10 PM
Oh, and here is a link (http://www.freeconservatives.com/vb/showthread.php?p=574284#post574284) that will give you futher proof of liberals' intolerance to anyone who does not agree with them.

buzzthepug!
08-11-2007, 04:10 PM
Not to get off topic of bigotry, but I find white liberals the worst kind of liberal. Seems like ethnic minorities who are liberal have a sense of entitlement, which is typical of a lib. White liberals have a sense of entitlement and major self-loathing. Plus, liberals are hateful (which is their religion - the religion of hatefulness) and want successful, self-made, self-reliant, God fearing, heterosexual happy people to be miserable like them.

Since liberals operate on hatefulness, they never have facts to back up their arguments. Since they practice the religion of hatefulness, they rely on ad hominin (sp?) attacks to try to make their point. Calling a person a hateful name, like a bigot, is a way to shut down the argument.

For what it's worth, I've added all the hateful liberals all over the world onto my prayer list in order for them to see the light and embrace Christian values (which won't kill you, by the way, unlike some lib practices)

HomeschoolrsRUs
08-11-2007, 06:01 PM
Oh, you're going to get some GREAT answers, if others find this thread, :smirky:.


Toldja so! :biggrin:

JBG
08-11-2007, 09:07 PM
Liberals are the epitome of bigotry. They put forth ideas and programs that portray the message that persons of color cannot acheive and succeed without the help of their benefit -- they can't do things on merit, but need "affirmative action" to force others to accept them as is.

Liberals believe people are too stupid to care for themselves and require government care from cradle-to-grave. How much more bigotted can you get?

Oh, you're gong to get some GREAT answers, if others find this thread, :smirky:.
Today was the party for my younger son's tenth birthday. Instead of a traditional party, we took him and three friends he selected to "Splashdown", in Wappingers Falls, New York. Two of the three friends were Jewish, and one was black. All came from families whose fathers work hard, and make good incomes.

At Splashdown, there were many other racially mixed combinations of children playing. The crowd apparently spanned many classes and cultural backgroiunds. It's a great couintry that can mix people, without people giving it a moment's thought. Where else but America would a nine-lawyer firm like mine have two white and Jewish, and one black female Jamaican partner? Where else would no one even question taking direction and orders from a female, and a minority at that?

Only in America.

HomeschoolrsRUs
08-11-2007, 09:17 PM
JBG,
I'm sorry, I don't quite understand. What did that have to do with my post?

JBG
08-11-2007, 09:24 PM
Oh sorry I didn't tie it together better. My point is that there are plenty of people who the liberals disown, myself included (link) (http://www.freeconservatives.com/vb/showthread.php?t=49667&). Many non-liberals walk the walk; my experience is the same as the subject of your thread, that many liberals, when it comes to bigotry, just talk the talk.

HomeschoolrsRUs
08-11-2007, 09:52 PM
Reality is, we out in flyover country, the heartland, southern homeland, WE are the ones who live in reality -- we live next door to people of color, to people of different ethnicities, to old and young, and even those with "alternative" lifestyles, and we for the most part we go along, get along, and leave alone. Everybody is a product of their own experiences.

The MSM has NO idea who "we" are. They don't "know" a single one of us, we are like aliens (no pun intended) to them. They refuse to believe that a family of rednecks with a good ole boy Dad can live next door to a black family, work with Mexicans, go to church with people of mixed race, eat meals at the family owned Chinese place and go play pick up ball with everyone from the neighborhood, AND that we all get along.

The funny thing is, it's not US who are the bigots, it's THEM because they don't believe we aren't!

JBG
08-11-2007, 10:07 PM
The funny thing is, it's not US who are the bigots, it's THEM because they don't believe we aren't!No, it's THEM because they wouldn't be caught dead racially or culturally mixing despite their constant accusations of racism.

HomeschoolrsRUs
08-11-2007, 10:10 PM
I meant they're bigotted against us, because they assume we are bigots, as they don't know any of us and wouldn't be caught dead associating with us. They purport to report on us from the outside looking in, but in fact they aren't looking at us at all, merely passing around the same old tired stereotypes they've chosen to believe instead of finding out the truth.

TeenageRepublican
08-12-2007, 01:46 AM
Liberals are extremely hypocritical when it comes to calling Conservatives names.
For example, they claim that Bush is killing innocent children in Iraq when they should really take a hard look at their pro-choice lives. Millions of innocent children are being killed everyday, and for what cause? For the cause of the mother not taking the time to take percautions before having sexual contact, or some pervert raping the poor girl.
Libs' way of arguing is way different than ours, we actually respect the opponent. So, Liberals are Bigoted Hypocrites, at least, the majority are.

Alex
08-12-2007, 01:55 AM
Not to get off topic of bigotry, but I find white liberals the worst kind of liberal. Seems like ethnic minorities who are liberal have a sense of entitlement, which is typical of a lib. White liberals have a sense of entitlement and major self-loathing. Plus, liberals are hateful (which is their religion - the religion of hatefulness) and want successful, self-made, self-reliant, God fearing, heterosexual happy people to be miserable like them.

Since liberals operate on hatefulness, they never have facts to back up their arguments. Since they practice the religion of hatefulness, they rely on ad hominin (sp?) attacks to try to make their point. Calling a person a hateful name, like a bigot, is a way to shut down the argument.

For what it's worth, I've added all the hateful liberals all over the world onto my prayer list in order for them to see the light and embrace Christian values (which won't kill you, by the way, unlike some lib practices)

Lots of interesting and robust comment relating to liberal bigotry - much of which I agree with, of course. Thanks buzz for bringing up the self-loathing aspect of liberal thinking.

The self-hating nature of liberalism is something that Roger Scruton identifies as part of an intellectual disorder that he calls oikophobia - which means an aversion to your own home and culture. It's a word I'd never heard of until recently, but I already knew about the political "disease" it refers to.

Conservatives are often called xenophobes - meaning an irrational dislike or fear of people from other countries. But liberals seem to be oikophobes because they have an irrational hatred for the history, customs, traditions, and laws of their own country.

Alex.

JBG
08-12-2007, 05:56 AM
The self-hating nature of liberalism is something that Roger Scruton identifies as part of an intellectual disorder that he calls oikophobia - which means an aversion to your own home and culture. It's a word I'd never heard of until recently, but I already knew about the political "disease" it refers to.

But liberals seem to be oikophobes because they have an irrational hatred for the history, customs, traditions, and laws of their own country.oikophobia, now that's a keeper. I never heard that phrase. Any idea of its root?

DoctorDoom
08-12-2007, 08:24 AM
eco, oeco-, oec-, oiko-, oik-

(Greek: house, household affairs [environment, habitat], home, dwelling; used in one extensive sense as, "environment")

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ecophobia, oikophobia, oikiophobia

1. A morbid dislike of home or an abnormal fear of being home or in one’s house.
2. A fear of home life or surroundings, including house-hold appliances, equipment, electricity, bathtubs, household chemicals, and many other common objects in the home.eco, oeco-, oec-, oiko-, oik- (http://www.wordinfo.info/words/index/info/view_unit/2787/3/?spage=1&letter=E)

Alex
08-12-2007, 09:27 AM
oikophobia, now that's a keeper. I never heard that phrase. Any idea of its root?
Oikophobia is a state of mind, or attitude, that repudiates home and heritage. The word seems to have been invented by Roger Scruton who defines it this way:

"Its symptoms are instantly recognized: namely, the disposition, in any conflict, to side with 'them' against 'us', and the felt need to denigrate the customs, culture and institutions that are identifiably 'ours'. I call the attitude okophobia -- the aversion to home -- by way of emphasizing its deep relation to xenophobia, of which it is the mirror image. Oikophobia is a stage through which the adolescent mind normally passes. But it is a stage in which intellectuals tend to become arrested".

Oikos is the Greek word for the family unit - which I didn't know until I looked it up in Google. I think oikophobia is a characteristic aspect of the liberal cast of mind.

Alex.

buzzthepug!
08-12-2007, 09:58 AM
Thanks for the new vocabulary word, Alex.

I wear my conservatism loud and proud because statistically I should be a huge liberal. Besides going to Europe a couple of times, I've spent 2 1/2 months traveling in India, 1 month traveling in Turkey and most recently, throughout China. I love to travel and I've had the opportunity to witness first hand how other cultures think and live. Most indigenous cultures are conservative because it's been conservative values that have kept people alive throughout the ages.

I've also lived in the Castro (gay district) in San Francisco when I was in graduate school. My apartment was only $450/month which was a steal in SF back in the late 1990s (during the dot com craze in the Bay Area). I got to experience the hatefulness of liberals first hand. I should say I got to experience liberals' oikophobia first hand.

Anyway, I love to use my experience to rub my conservative logic in the face of a liberal, especially white liberals. Especially angry, white, female libs.

Alex
08-12-2007, 10:09 AM
Thanks for the new vocabulary word, Alex.
You're welcome, buzz.
Anyway, I love to use my experience to rub my conservative logic in the face of a liberal, especially white liberals. Especially angry, white, female libs.

That's also one of my pleasures - but it's got me into a whole lot of trouble at work and in my social life.

Alex.

buzzthepug!
08-12-2007, 10:16 AM
Tell me about it! The good news is the smart libs are seeing the light and embracing conservative values. Conservatives will win! Let's just hope it's not too late for America.

Alex
08-12-2007, 11:20 AM
Tell me about it! The good news is the smart libs are seeing the light and embracing conservative values. Conservatives will win! Let's just hope it's not too late for America.

Well, I almost got the sack for scoffing at a liberal "mission statement" that paid court to the equality of outcomes.

When I pointed out (at a staff meeting) that the concept of equality is almost meaningless unless we specify in what respect it applies, and that an equality of outcome can only be achieved by loss of liberty, I was reprimanded for failing to be a "team player" and undermining the values of the business.

Alex.

buzzthepug!
08-12-2007, 11:36 AM
Good for you, Alex, for going against the grain. In Ann Coulter's book, Treason, Coulter points out that the Communist Party in the US threatened to murder party members that wanted to leave the party back in the 1950s.

Still, it's an awful feeling to be pegged as something you're clearly not. I hope the libs in England come to their senses. Christopher Hitchens is helping the cause, I believe. Hang in there!

dajoga
08-12-2007, 03:48 PM
I'm a bigot, but I'm in great company, so was Jesus.

JBG
08-12-2007, 04:26 PM
I'm a bigot, but I'm in great company, so was Jesus.Spot on. A bigot, to me, is a sheriff who sics police dogs on peaceful black demonstrators, or who forces a genius like George Washington Carver to duck out of the rear entrance of a building after giving a scientific presentation.

mateusrosé
08-14-2007, 11:53 AM
Look at what I said and consider it carefully, just for making that statement it has the feel of bigotry and racisim.


Of course it does, because that's the intention of the left--to stifle debate and the dissemination of differing viewpoints by tossing around the "bigot" moniker (so much for tolerance and diversity). And what annoys me even more are those conservatives who are intimidated by it.

Rhino
08-14-2007, 12:44 PM
A bigot is usually defined as someone who is utterly intolerant of any belief or opinion that differs from his own. .... People with conservative social and cultural values will almost inevitably be labelled as "bigots" when their liberal opponents have run out of reasoned arguments.The reaction of liberals in sentence two would place them firmly into the definition of bigot in sentence one. Resorting to name calling when losing a reasoned argument does indeed constitute someone who is utterly intolerant of any belief or opinion that differs from his own.

Alex
08-15-2007, 01:16 AM
Of course it does, because that's the intention of the left--to stifle debate and the dissemination of differing viewpoints by tossing around the "bigot" moniker (so much for tolerance and diversity). And what annoys me even more are those conservatives who are intimidated by it.
Exactly. There are a number of smear words that liberals use to close down a debate when they run out of arguments - or sometimes before they even get any argument off the ground. One is "bigot", another is "prejudice", yet another is "racist" and/or "fascist", and the absolute clincher (they think) is "homophobe".

I agree that it's important for conservatives not to be intimidated by these labels, and to subject their significance to objective analysis whenever possible.

Alex.

Alex
08-15-2007, 01:41 AM
The reaction of liberals in sentence two would place them firmly into the definition of bigot in sentence one. Resorting to name calling when losing a reasoned argument does indeed constitute someone who is utterly intolerant of any belief or opinion that differs from his own.
I agree. But liberals seem to assume their views are immune from bigotry. They believe they are so self-evidently in the right that no reasonable person could disagree with them, let alone oppose them.

I've heard it said (which is nonsense) that it's impossible for a black person to have "racist" views. I think liberals make a similar claim because, they say, liberalism by definition is incompatible with bigotry.

Alex.

Rhino
08-15-2007, 06:18 AM
I agree. But liberals seem to assume their views are immune from bigotry. They believe they are so self-evidently in the right that no reasonable person could disagree with them, let alone oppose them.That also fits into the definition in sentence one.