View Full Version : Healthy eating won't stop cancer
DesertFox
08-25-2007, 02:25 PM
FRUIT and vegetables provide no protection against cancer, according to latest Australian research that has shocked nutritionists.
In a discovery that turns conventional advice on its head, experts have admitted there is "zero evidence'' that eating fruit and vegetables can help people avoid a disease that kills nearly 40,000 Australians every year.
Research presented for the first time at last week's CSIRO Prospects for Cancer Prevention Symposium shows that what people eat is far less important in cancer prevention than previously believed.
Instead, the three prime risk factors driving up Australian cancer rates have been identified as obesity, drinking too much alcohol and smoking.
More (http://www.news.com.au/sundaytelegraph/story/0,22049,22306308-5001021,00.html)
DesertFox
08-25-2007, 02:25 PM
I bet heredity trumps them all.
Wolfcounsel
08-25-2007, 02:31 PM
What kind of dumbass believes that if he is overweight, smokes like a chimney, and drinks like a fish, and eats his fruits and vegetables, he is going to be healthier?
Mens sana in corpore sano, people. Everything in moderation, and exercise!
DesertFox
08-25-2007, 04:26 PM
Does sex every night count as regular exercise? :question:
Timberwolf
08-26-2007, 03:03 PM
I am HOWLING with laughter!! I've been telling my clients, "all things in moderation is the way to go" for 20 years. Of course, the "twigs & berries" bunch has called me a "loon" (amongst other, less hospitable names) for just about as long. :biggrin:
Same thing happened when I DARED speak against the conventional wisdom concerning eggs, milk and butter 18-20 years ago (I said they were essential for good health...was proved right about 5 years later).
My basic premise is, "Given the choice between God-made and man-made, I'll go with God EVERY time" (i.e. - butter vs. margarine, eggs vs. EggBeaters<sub>tm</sub>, etc)...in moderation, of course.
This is extremely good news. It is also basic common sense. Good find, DF...thanks for posting it.
garlicguy
08-26-2007, 03:37 PM
Does sex every night count as regular exercise? :question:
According to Webster's: Not if it is with oneself. In other words, cannot be a home game or scrimmage.
Wolfcounsel
08-26-2007, 04:21 PM
"Does sex every night count as regular exercise? :question:" --DesertFox
"According to Webster's: Not if it is with oneself." --garlicguy
Having sex with oneself is like a dog rubbing himself on a person's leg, or a homosexual or lesbian pretending it's sex. It is not sex. Therefore, it is not exercise.:evilgrin:
DesertFox
08-26-2007, 07:26 PM
This is extremely good news. It is also basic common sense. I go with the common sense test every time. Of course, there come those moments when what constitutes common sense changes -- that is, you learn something new and it changes your perspective on a whole raft of things.
Sometime in the Sixties some doctor said about cancer, "It's all heredity. You can affect your quality of life, but your time here (barring war and accidents) is largely determined by how long your folks lived, how long their folks lived, etc, going back a ways." That made more sense to me than anything I'd heard before, and still does. Elvis Pretzel's dad or ma, one of the two, died of a heart attack in his/her/its early 40's, and so did Elvis. Jim Fixx, the running guru of the Seventies, announced loudly that he was going to defeat his inheritance of death by heart attack in his 40's, by running and avoiding anything known to be harmful to health -- and didn't.
I remember reading about a Harvard longitudinal study of its grads, published in the late Seventies or early Eighties, that hypothesized significantly longer lives among those who avoided alcohol and smoking and remained active throughout their lives. The universe was 100% of Harvard grads from, like, the 1890's thru the 1940's or so, covering their entire lives. The findings stood their hypothesis on its head. They found that people who took care of themselves lived about two years longer than people who abandoned themselves to food, booze, smokes, dope and whatever else. The researchers were left with the lame bromide about better quality of life among the health nuts. No doubt that's true, but after their high expectations and all, that was pretty weak shit.
Heredity. More important than anything else but maybe luck.
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