Jesus Christ, You Can't Say That in Our School (Unless You're Cursing)

[EveningStar]

So according to the wisdom of the public education establishment, a high-school valedictorian should lose her diploma for – not cheating, not plagiarism, but 30 seconds of telling her classmates about her faith in Jesus...
Full article and reader comments (http://www.townhall.com/columnists/JonSanders/2007/08/31/jesus_christ,_you_cant_say_that_in_our_school_unle ss_youre_cursing)

[EveningStar]

...There were 15 valedictorians in the graduating class... Good grief! How can you have 15 ****ing valedictorians in one class?????

[DoctorDoom]

ES, you're pushing your luck with your blatant, brazen contempt for Jesus. If you can't respect Him for the sake of FC's Christians, you WILL be censored (there is no First Amendment on a private BB). Consider that as a fair warning.

[EveningStar]

ES, you're pushing your luck with your blatant, brazen contempt for Jesus. If you can't respect Him for the sake of FC's Christians, you WILL be censored (there is no First Amendment on a private BB). Consider that as a fair warning.
Doc, I don't know what you're talking about. :biggrin:

[DoctorDoom]

Really? I DO. I have the post copied.

[EveningStar]

Just kidding. BTW, I don't have contempt for Jesus.

[Timberwolf]

Yes, you do...and you don't hide it very well.

[EveningStar]

Yes, you do...and you don't hide it very well.
No. I just enjoy religious humor.

BTW, this thread is drifting seriously. :thumb:

[Timberwolf]

Regardless, that is a very good column. Were our daughter in public school and some HITA administrator or teacher pulled some crap like this, said person/people would rue the day they were ever born.

[Timberwolf]

ES, there is nothing funny about taking the Lord's name in vain.

[EveningStar]

Regardless, that is a very good column. Were our daughter in public school and some HITA administrator or teacher pulled some crap like this, said person/people would rue the day they were ever born.

Valedictorian Silenced Over Her Christian Faith Will Go to Court (http://www.cnsnews.com/ViewCulture.asp?Page=/Culture/archive/200612/CUL20061218b.html)

Valedictorian Threatened with Loss of Diploma over Religious Graduation Message Sues School (http://www.lifesite.net/ldn/2007/aug/07082701.html)

[DoctorDoom]

BTW, this thread is drifting seriously.It wasn't until you posted, "Jesus H. Christ in a sidecar! How can you have 15 ****ing valedictorians in one class?????"

Since you "enjoy religious humor", atheist, perhaps you'll tell us why ALL of your "religious humor" is directed at Jesus and Christianity. Where's the "religious humor" about Allah or Vishnu or Confucius or Buddha or Zoroaster? Where are the offensive cartoons about Jews or Moonies or Scientologists or Wiccans or Gaians?

Or are you focusing on Christ because you enjoy offending His believers?

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As for the article, what can we expect when Godless secularists have been in charge of education for decades?

"I am convinced that the battle for humankind's future must be waged and won in the public school classrooms by teachers who correctly perceive their role as the proselytizers of a new faith... these teachers must embody the same selfless dedication as the most rabid fundamentalist preachers, for they will be ministers of another sort, utilizing a classroom instead of a pulpit to convey humanist values in whatever subject they teach... The classroom must and will become an arena of conflict between the old and new, the rotting corpse of Christianity, together with all its adjacent evils and misery, and the new faith of humanism, resplendent in its promise of a world in which the never-realized Christian ideal of "love thy neighbor" will finally be achieved."
-- John Dunphy, Humanist Magazine, Jan/Feb, 1985

"Education is thus a most powerful ally of humanism. What can the theistic Sunday schools, meeting for an hour once a week, do to stem the tide of a five-day program of humanistic teaching?"
-- Charles Francis Potter, a signer of the 1933 Humanist Manifesto, in "Humanism: A New Religion", 1930

"(T)eachers and school administrators (should) come to see themselves as social engineers. They must equip themselves as 'change agents'."
-- Kenneth Benne, American Education Fellowship president, in "Progressive Education", May, 1949

"(E)very child in America entering school at the age of five is insane because he comes to school with certain allegiances to our founding fathers, toward his parents, toward belief in a supernatural being, toward the sovereignty of this nation as a separate entity... It's up to you teachers to make all these sick children well by creating the international children of the future."
-- Dr. Chester M. Pierce, Professor of Education and Psychiatry, Medicine and Graduate School of Education, Harvard University, in a 1972 address to the Association for Childhood Education International in Denver

"Human beings can be influenced to examine critically their religious beliefs only by indirection, (by which) I mean the development of a critical attitude in all our educational institutions that will aim to make students less credulous to claims that transcend their reflective experience."
-- Sidney Hook, signer of 1973 Humanist Manifesto, in the Jan/Feb 1977 edition of "The Humanist"

"You are a target of the Far Right... (if) you ask students to examine their values, teach sex education, ever indicate it may be OK to lie, teach about values different from those of the students' parents, teach that 'anything goes' or 'if you feel it's OK, do it,' train your students to be 'global citizens,' teach humanism, etc."
-- "Combatting the New Right", a 1977 training program developed by the NEA Western States Regional Staff

"(S)ociety has the ultimate responsibility for the well-being and development of all children... The time has come to re-examine such fundamental issues as the extent to which a child is entitled to seek medical and psychiatric assistance, birth control information and even abortion, without parental consent or over parental opposition." The report recommends, "Sex education - including family planning, birth control, contraception, abortion, venereal disease, homosexuality and lesbianism and so-called unnatural acts."
-- The 1970 White House Conference on Children and Youth

Education is a PR firm for hell.

[EveningStar]

It wasn't until you posted, "Jesus H. Christ in a sidecar! How can you have 15 ****ing valedictorians in one class?????"

Since you "enjoy religious humor", atheist, perhaps you'll tell us why ALL of your "religious humor" is directed at Jesus and Christianity. Where's the "religious humor" about Allah or Vishnu or Confucius or Buddha or Zoroaster? Where are the offensive cartoons about Jews or Moonies or Scientologists or Wiccans or Gaians?

Or are you focusing on Christ because you enjoy offending His believers?

I'm not an atheist. I was raised Episcopalian. Today, my religious beliefs are probably closest to Judaism.

Here is some non-Christian religious humor for you. :thumb:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v719/bruckner/Humor-Religious/psychedelic.gif

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v719/bruckner/Humor-Religious/mosesbath.gif

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v719/bruckner/Humor-Religious/koran2ply.gif

[DoctorDoom]

It took a challenge to bring those out. Why am I not impressed?

BTW, look into the Jews For Jesus presentation, "Christ In The Passover", and get some of Zola Levitt's presentations. "Beloved Thief" is excellent.