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Hilemanhouse
09-10-2007, 09:02 AM
Conoco, your debit card and bouncing checks

I don’t know about you but I am not so rich that I don’t notice when my account is to the breaking point and I tend to spend very conservatively when I know a check in the wrong amount may break the bank. However, we found out over the weekend via our daughter that some of those times when we knew we had the money in the account but the bounced checks said we didn’t if we bought gas with our debit card we more than likely did not have the money in the account we thought we did.

Our daughter who has just begun working and managing her own money bought one of those prepaid credit cards from Wal-Mart and checks her balance nightly, Saturday night she got a surprise and when she told us we were surprised as well. You see she put ten dollars worth of gas in the van using her card and found out the next day that she was not charged ten dollars but thirty five dollars Conoco at Brookshires in Lufkin had put a hold on thirty five dollars to pay for ten dollars worth of gas. At first I thought this had to be a big mistake, a joke but when I got gas this morning I went and asked the attendant and was told they do that only to debit cards and only if you pay at the pump like that was going to make it better.

We have all had those weeks, some of us those months where there is to much month at the end of the money especially during the summer when we are fighting high electric bills as well as high gas prices and an extra twenty five dollars being held on the wrong day can send your checking account bouncing across the US and back. There are no signs on the pumps to warn you that oh by the way when you buy 5 – 10 dollars worth of gas there is an additional I don’t trust you charge of $25.00. So you buy your $10.00 worth of gas and hope it will carry you through the week and then suddenly you start getting letters from your bank saying you are overdrawn and you and I both know if you don’t know why you are over drawn it is very hard to play catch up so that one bounced check turns into five bounced checks simply because you not only have to pay for that bounced check you must pay for the bank to cover it to the tune of twenty five dollars or more and all of this because you put ten measly dollars in gas in your car. :flame:

Oh and if that isn’t bad enough, the bank will give them that money and when they decide to they will credit back the rest of the money, which I am sure will help defray some of the cost of those bounced checks, not. You will have to forgive me but this is nothing but wrong, this is taking money that does not belong to them and holding it without telling anyone and this is wrong. I do not know if any other gas company does this it might do people some good to check, but I just thought you might want to know about Conoco, your debit card and bouncing checks.

Beowulf
09-10-2007, 09:27 AM
Sorry if this sounds Liberal but sounds like a version of price gauging! I would make an issue of this. I know Conoco is pulling out of Venezuela, and rightfully so, but YOU or I shouldn't have to pay for it.

Hilemanhouse
09-10-2007, 10:49 AM
I don't have any idea how long this has been going on but it is BS

buckeyepete
09-10-2007, 11:10 AM
I know for a fact that hotels/motels do it. I've also had numerous convenience stores and gas stations lock up my debit as well as a holding fee until the transaction goes through. But, $25/35. I've never seen anything that high...........

HomeschoolrsRUs
09-10-2007, 11:37 AM
I don't understand why they do it?! If a company can check a check right away, why can't the debit be checked? I know I've bought things with debit in the morning, checked my bank account in the afternoon and it's already been taken out! This is ridiculous ... I thought debit was supposed to be better than check for the very reason that it comes out automatically with no wait and no approval time necessary. http://www.freeconservatives.com/vb/images/icons/icon8.gif

Lubbock
09-10-2007, 11:46 AM
Hotels/motels do it on your credit card because there may be more charges during your stay --even if it's only overnight. I always resented the fact that a certain amount of available credit was blocked on my credit card when I traveled.

A credit card and a debit card are two very different things.

I have never used a debit card. Don't have one. Wouldn't have one. Don't trust them.

I'm not sure that what Conoco is doing is legal.

I would call a lawyer.

It's my understanding that a debit card is for the amount of exact purchase, just the same as writing a check for exact purchase, but without the "paperwork".

I'm just not sure that what has been done to you is even legal.

gnome
09-10-2007, 01:49 PM
I have seen similar happen to me at 7-11... it started right around the time that gas prices spiked, so far as I know...

Naturalized-Texan
09-10-2007, 02:02 PM
The solution is very simple:

NEVER USE DEBIT CARDS!

Don't blame the companies for using your debit cards they way they were meant to be used - as instant payment.

HomeschoolrsRUs
09-10-2007, 02:31 PM
Don't blame the companies for using your debit cards they way they were meant to be used - as instant payment.

That's the point NT, they are NOT using them as they were meant to be used as INSTANT payment. They are putting a hold on money for days, INSTEAD of taking the money out instantaneously.

Lazarus
09-10-2007, 02:37 PM
As much as I use credit and debit cards, I still like the idea of dealing in cash as much as possible... In fact the more of these horror stories I hear about, the more attractive cash looks to me...

Naturalized-Texan
09-10-2007, 02:43 PM
My solution still stands. Never use debit cards. Lubbock is right: Don't trust them. I don't and that's why I would never use them.

BTW, read the fine print on your debit card agreement. I suspect that what they are doing is described in that agreement and that it is perfectly legal.

Why is this thread in the U.S. Politics Forum? It has nothing to do with politics.

Lubbock
09-10-2007, 04:06 PM
One more time: Call a lawyer.

I'm not sure this is legal.

If I understand debit cards, what Conoco is doing is the same thing as if you went to the market and wrote a check for $42.38 for groceries, the check-out clerk took that check in her hand, crossed out $42.38 and wrote in $65.00.

I know that it is illegal for a clerk to change the amount on your check.

A credit card and a debit card are two entirely different things.

If I understand debit cards, when you use one, it is the same as if you had written a check.

I know that it is illegal for any entity to jack with your checking account without written authorization.

As NT said, check the fine print. There may be something in your agreement with your bank that allows what Conoco is doing, but I don't think so.

I think the only thing your bank could put in the fine print is that THE BANK would be authorized to jack with your checking account.

I don't think the bank could make you sign something that allowed a third party to jack with your checking account.

CALL A LAWYER.

EDIT: I'm probably an old-fashioned stick-in-the-mud, but I do not pay bills on line, and I do not allow payments such as utilities, insurance, etc. to be drafted from my checking account. I would never give any entity control over my checking account.

A number of years back, I had an insurance company refuse to wrtie my automobile policy unless I allowed the payment to be drafted on a monthly basis.

Sorry, Charlie. You don't write my insurance.

I would never allow anyone get into my checking account . . . except the Social Security Administration, and they are putting money in, not taking it out.